Anyhow have alternatives to amazing selling machine software?

Would be pretty impossible to tell without knowing what their tools do. I'm sure there are other options for these though - you will probably need to do a lot of google research.

I already tried searching in goggle, nothing came up.

Does anybody on here have access to Amazing Selling Machine software tools? If so could be have a discussion please, I'd like to get into the details of these tools, that would be really helpful!

Hi hustler101, yeah, I have a same kind of problems. 4000$ ? damn..its insane. When they did their first launch I almost jump in. Now I´m glad I didn´t. I´m searching information every day. Those tools are for promoting your online store, right? You can have your press release written with 5 bucks on Fiverr and released it. Amazon have their own advertising system where you can promote your store!
Start with those.

There are much better programs out there than Amazon Selling Machine for Amazon FBA.

I personally figured out the ranking system in Amazon, and can rank any item on the first page for competitive keywords. I am not going to spam this thread with my links so if you are interested, PM me.

I do really well not using any paid program. If you have any questions let me know.

Hey I don't know where to get the amazing selling free but I know where you can download for $500.
But I'd rather get DsDomination if I was doing amazon

Overall Amazing Selling Machine was a great course. Probably the BEST SEO course I've ever taken. I never heard of the 'Proven Amazon Course', but would be interested in taking a look into it and even purchasing it. Offcurse if I was a competitor of ASM I would be knocking down their strategy as well while promoting my own, it's just a business practice. Althought I can't judge since I haven't seen the PAC course.

Has anybody here actually taken the Amazing Selling Machine course? And would you be willing to share in detail what these tools do exactly? Or if you use any other tools to promote your amazon products, please do share!

Press release tool ( It sounds useless)
UB ( It can be done manually) Not a big isse
Promotion Tool ( Pretty vague) Use amazon instead
Video Tool: (I cant figure out how it is related to Selling on Amazon)
Traffic Robot : ( Find some real traffic)

All these tools are almost useless.

Right, let's get straight to the point, what type of business do you want to run.

a) your own brand - 3-5mths sourcing & 7-10mths for traction with high margins
b) a retailer selling named brands - traction in 3-5mths with medium revenue
c) a dropshipper selling all brands - traction in 1-2mths with low revenue
d) an affiliate selling all brands - traction immediate but very low revenue

Hybrid a/b - this is how Saks, Amazon, Walmart run selling brands and replacing top selling brands with their own in-house.

ASM fits in the a) category along with Shopify. If you want to run a true retailer you need better software such as Magento. How do you gain exposure, via time or volume. Running your own brand you will have limited volume of products so you need to market it senseless. If you have a large number of branded products your marketing is made easier as it's picked up automatically, your own in-house products then gain exposure automatically where you generate high margins, think Kindle.

Let's look at the primary function of the site, Shopify will be niche own brand such as boutique fashion. ASM will be own brand but you need to be in the top 5% otherwise it's a negative ROI. A retailer selling named products has sourcing issues however there some categories where it's easier to gain traction, this also applies to dropshippers and affiliates. As you go from a -> d your product volume increases so you need more automation, however your risk goes down along with your revenue.

Are there alternatives to ASM, yes, Shopify which has the same average revenue per employee targeting own brand ~$40,000 per year (the ASM quoted figures are all over the place from $3k to $32k per employee revenue but we'll take their maximum for fairness). You will on average however have a 7-10mth lead time to revenue for own brand up to a 3-5yr window before you turn profitable unless you already have experience which obviously shortcuts the time but then you wouldn't need support.

What we have been advised via via by the best minds who support the largest retailers business processes and technology is to launch a b/c store for immediate revenues and sales volumes while you work outwards towards the own brand and affiliates. You will have a much higher success rate than the ~5% you get with own brand. If you have a passion for designing your own products then it makes more sense to start with a) and something like Shopify.

We're taking the advice and starting with b/c and working outwards, the advantage is that the kickstarter auto lists our products on their Affiliate sites and has manufacturer agreements for various sectors giving extra traction so in effect we get b/c out of the gate and fast-tracked a/d all with different maturing timeframes.

Google know how all this works, in all cases a) is a time centric business meaning your success is directly proportionate to the amount of time you put in, the tools just try and hide that fact, and in most cases fail, hence why those businesses have a huge failure rate.

It's all very clear that ASM affiliates receive 50% of the signup fee, but this is about the tools to make a business successful not any particular product. Again, you are disagreeing with Amazing.com's own statistics (13,622 students at $36m/mth) and the Forbes article about ASM (14,000 students at $100m over 2yrs). If you have a problem with the officially quoted figures you should take it up with them or have them publish revised stats, that's business 101.

Only the irrational can expect people to buy a $5,000 product based on information that contradicts officially quoted figures to the upside, especially when the official figures match the exact positioning of the product compared to solutions such as Shopify or other SaaS platforms.

This is however about the tools for a startup, and that is very simple, as own brand products are time focused the tools are only a minor part of the picture so pick the best you can afford and concentrate on working out how to make more time available aligning with the top 5% who succeeded as those business models have a 95% attrition rate. For marketing the standard is 8% of revenue and Amazon.com use 4%, then you break that down by this https://www.custora.com/pulse/channel for each channel. That is how you save time and what the smart money does, use the standard metrics the best minds have provided (Forbes, Gartner, Custora).

However there is still 92-96% of the revenue that needs to be covered from product sourcing to profit margin calculations to technology setup and so on. Which is why, no matter what anyone says, especially those with a vested interest, the standard metrics from the smart minds quote a 95% attrition rate, that 50% of all online revenue is generated by the top 5% and that most small business startups are in the $30-50k per year per employee revenue range of which most small business services and the tools are targeted.

Shall we just cut through the marketing hyperbole (cool word). ASM is a set of concepts to generate a business, however this is where the interesting part arises. As it is open to interpretation you will have concentration to the top of success vs failure, this occurs in any industry and strategy using concepts as their basis.

So where is the true value, experience however with experience you need trust as you need to follow the smart money. That means you need access to the knowledge at the top, however if there is no entry criteria then how do you know you are talking to the 'knowledge' and not someone selling air. This causes a dilution effect and as with all communities it runs as fast as the lowest common denominator. Some will break out which is where the 95% failure vs 5% success comes in.

The hedge fund sends out this information (they fund the eCommerce rollouts) which filters it's way down to us.

“I don’t think trading strategies are as vulnerable to not working if people know about them, as most traders believe. If what you are doing is right, it will work even if people have a general idea about it. I always say you could publish rules in a newspaper and no one would follow them. The key is consistency and discipline.” - Richard Dennis

The Turtles were taught an set of methodologies with the key being that they had exact rules to follow, based on this there was a 95% success rate. Many people tried to mimic the published strategies mostly with failure. Therein lies the difference, an open concept will always have a 5%/95% success/failure rate regardless of industry, a closed exacting methodology will always have a 95%/5% success/failure rate as it's not open to interpretation. The difference is that the methodology will either only allow the best of the best and/or give people a chance but remove them rapidly if under performing, the concept allows anyone. This is built in to business economics.

eCommerce follows the same rules, the group we have access to, the lead architects are the ones who design the strategic architecture for the multi-nationals and their marketplaces that ASM uses to generate the strategies to the open public. One of their clients has a per employee revenue of $4.5m per year.

It still comes back to the fact that Forbes interviewed Matt Clark and the quoted figure is $100m revenue over 2yrs on 14,000 students which is $3,500/yr average per employee revenue. You then have to ask yourself this, does the selling party gain anything from your ongoing success via a one-time payment. The smart money makes sure that they take a cut of your profits for the privilege of having access to their experience ie. Turtles.

If you can extract the information from the mass of hopefuls then you may be on to something. We don't bother, they tell us what to do, we do it, and it falls in to place, if there are problems it filters it's way up the chain until it's solved. However the downside, we were told a few months back a $multi-million retailer was asked to leave the architecture as they were under performing. It's based on the Yoox Group model who just purchased Net-A-Porter, they run Prada, D&G and other luxury brands taking 40% of the retailer revenue so there's precedent involved.

A 95% success rate is "this is what you do, here's is the infrastructure, now follow it exactly, you can interpret when we've made our investment back and you know what you are doing", a 5% success rate is "this is the concept, now go try and replicate it, we've made our revenue so we'll make sure your supported enough to bring in the next member"!

Anyone selling the 5/95 concept approach will always have to have the last word, they don't have the luxury of asking people to leave the community. But's on the plus side in the long term it's cheap if you can break in to the 5% and it may just given you some motivation, think of it like a gym membership where 95% of clubs have a 30% or greater attrition rate each year.

http://www.ptdirect.com/images/perso...ning-attrition

The conclusion is very simple, you get what you pay for but it's not what you know, it's who you know. Gain direct access to that knowledge and the world is your oyster, spend time with the wrong people and those dreams stay just that plus you just lost your investment and more importantly, your time.

Concepts are heavily marketed - ~95% options - driven by your time - 5% success - easy entry

Methodologies are word of mouth - ~5% options - driven by your revenue - 95% success - difficult entry

*The graph is the standard bell curve in finance, all the interesting stuff happens at the fat tails, the 5%s!

However, you need this to make it all glue together, there are two types of methodologies. Concepts are the left side of the bell curve, non-transferable methodologies are the peak, transferable methodologies are the right side of the bell curve. It’s all about revenue vs time.



Concepts are a framework, you need to generate your own non-transferable methodologies from it, this covers all training programs including ASM. Non-transferable methodologies are just that, for whatever personal or business reason or simply that the person cannot put the exact rules on paper to be reproduced, this covers successful ASMers. Transferable methodologies are a list of rules to follow allowing income generation for all parties involved with limited risk, used by the large multi-nationals and billionaires.

Those using transferable methodologies understand themselves and both non-transferable and concepts, those using non-transferable methodologies sometimes understand themselves but understand concepts, concepts are always looking for direction.

For example, if you generate $10k revenue per month on Amazon marketplace you will be paying $1,500/mth referral fee, did you know that you can rank products on Google next to Amazon & eBay using a transferable methodology cluster hosting architecture costing the same. Did you know that Amazon have a 30% gross profit margin undercutting almost all other retailers, that their average marketing budget is only 4% of revenue and that their average ppc cost is under $1 but have a customer lifetime value in the $1,000s. With transferable methodologies you not only learn that information, you are also provided the architecture to offset it.

The core difference between non-transferable & transferable methodologies, months to years compared to days to weeks to launch a business. To measure something you need two reference points, with concepts and non-transferable methodologies you don’t know what you are measuring, with transferable you do. In the end, money makes money! There’s nothing wrong buying in to a concept, but there is if you’re buying in to one which is sold as a transferable methodology. We use transferable methodologies daily and can very clearly state, ASM just doesn't come close, you will only find them at companies like Rocket Internet, Consortium Internet or Yoox Group!

There are none of the tools are available for sell. The easy and genuine process of selling through website is good and also profitable.

There's a lot of free content online if you just google how to private label on Amazon. I think with courses these days, it's all recycled. You can find it anywhere. Wouldn't it be better to purchase your first shipment with that $4000?

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Guys, I bought a copy of ASM 2015 but I'm too busy into other stuff that I still didn't take any action... It have all the video modules, the interviews, the hangouts, PDF files... I'm willing to sell my copy at a fraction of the price if anyone is interested. Just add me on skype: support.1000appreviews .

ASM is an awesome course for those left wondering...learnt everything we know and the proof is in the bank fortnightly.....sure it cost 4k or whatever but id be still a struggling internet marketer if it wasn't for a step by step program that they provided.

If you purchased ASM and put in the effort you WILL be successful.

Hey, I was wondering whether if you submit a press release about your Amazon products, do you link to the product or do you only try to rank for keywords+brand name?

Thanks