Request for advice regarding transition from retail store to e-commerce

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Hi everyone! By way of introduction, I am currently involved in running a social enterprise bakery that is actively focused on raising the employability of elderly low-wage workers and helping to re-integrate them into the workforce. With the shift in consumer trends, we are currently moving into the e-commerce sphere to reach a wider audience and to increase the visibility of our brand.

In contrast to orders made at our retail store, we provide delivery services and party trays packaging (upon request) for orders made via our website. Additionally, we have also listed our products on various local portals such as FoodPanda and our local Amazon equivalent. While the various channels has somewhat helped to raise our monthly revenue, the sales made via our own website is lacklustre in comparison. I have experimented with social media advertising and Google ad words, and the webpage records an average of 30-40 visitors daily. On our end, we have also integrated the link to our website into our collaterals such as dessert packaging and brochures.

Would appreciate it if anyone can share their experiences with increasing traffic/ conversion rates for an e-commerce business that caters exclusively to a local community, and also feedback on the general feel of our website. Thank you !

Link to website: Sunlife Durian Puffs & Pastries
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  • Profile picture of the author violet0176
    The best thing you could do is to hire an intern(pay them) or new graduate with a proven background in SEO & Social Media marketing. Marketing your business is a full-time job and you will get good results if you hire someone that knows what they're doing.

    Put an ad on Craigslist or the local community college job board.



    Interesting,using durian in your desserts.
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    • Profile picture of the author SunlifePastries
      Originally Posted by violet0176 View Post

      The best thing you could do is to hire an intern(pay them) or new graduate with a proven background in SEO & Social Media marketing. Marketing your business is a full-time job and you will get good results if you hire someone that knows what they're doing.

      Put an ad on Craigslist or the local community college job board.



      Interesting,using durian in your desserts.
      Thanks violet0176! Durians are actually a popular dessert in our Asian region Unfortunately, our available funds are mainly tied up with employing the elderly bakers at the moment. I am currently the only individual whom is handling all the backend work such as marketing, website troubleshooting and all the finance related stuff. Getting someone to market our business full-time is definitely on the list though, and I appreciate the suggestion to reach out using local community boards as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author groggab
    Originally Posted by SunlifePastries View Post

    Hi everyone! By way of introduction, I am currently involved in running a social enterprise bakery that is actively focused on raising the employability of elderly low-wage workers and helping to re-integrate them into the workforce. With the shift in consumer trends, we are currently moving into the e-commerce sphere to reach a wider audience and to increase the visibility of our brand.

    In contrast to orders made at our retail store, we provide delivery services and party trays packaging (upon request) for orders made via our website. Additionally, we have also listed our products on various local portals such as FoodPanda and our local Amazon equivalent. While the various channels has somewhat helped to raise our monthly revenue, the sales made via our own website is lacklustre in comparison. I have experimented with social media advertising and Google ad words, and the webpage records an average of 30-40 visitors daily. On our end, we have also integrated the link to our website into our collaterals such as dessert packaging and brochures.

    Would appreciate it if anyone can share their experiences with increasing traffic/ conversion rates for an e-commerce business that caters exclusively to a local community, and also feedback on the general feel of our website. Thank you !

    Link to website: Sunlife Durian Puffs & Pastries
    Hi there TS,

    I'm from Singapore too and I've tried your Durains Puffs. There were AMAZING .
    That being said, what I think you need is someone who can help you with website SEO and directing Organic traffic to it. I have a friend who is an expert on this . You may want to consult his expertise on it and see if you are willing to try his expertise. Do PM me if you are interested

    Cheers
    Gabriel
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    • Profile picture of the author SunlifePastries
      Originally Posted by groggab View Post

      Hi there TS,

      I'm from Singapore too and I've tried your Durains Puffs. There were AMAZING .
      That being said, what I think you need is someone who can help you with website SEO and directing Organic traffic to it. I have a friend who is an expert on this . You may want to consult his expertise on it and see if you are willing to try his expertise. Do PM me if you are interested

      Cheers
      Gabriel
      Hi groggab!

      It is such a small world indeed, didn't expect to bump into another Singaporean here, and am totally surprised to know that you have tried out our desserts too! Thanks so much for the encouragement given. Regarding SEO and organic traffic, we currently are ranked on the first page of Google for some of the dessert search terms. Unfortunately, the volume of searches for such terms are pretty low locally. I did some testing on Google Adwords for keywords such as "Durian Puff Singapore", but it appears that the number of monthly searches are only in the low 100s.

      Nevertheless, thank you for the suggestion regarding SEO, will definitely reach out to you once we have some available budget !
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      • Profile picture of the author groggab
        Originally Posted by SunlifePastries View Post

        Hi groggab!

        It is such a small world indeed, didn't expect to bump into another Singaporean here, and am totally surprised to know that you have tried out our desserts too! Thanks so much for the encouragement given. Regarding SEO and organic traffic, we currently are ranked on the first page of Google for some of the dessert search terms. Unfortunately, the volume of searches for such terms are pretty low locally. I did some testing on Google Adwords for keywords such as "Durian Puff Singapore", but it appears that the number of monthly searches are only in the low 100s.

        Nevertheless, thank you for the suggestion regarding SEO, will definitely reach out to you once we have some available budget !
        Hi TS,

        The low amount of searches for "Durain Puffs" is due to the psychology that people usually would not search for it and then buy it. Such Novelty of treats comes in a wave of impulse when you are window shopping and then at the corner of your eyes, you see a durain puff stall and the smell overwhelms you, hence, the consumer goes ahead and purchase it.
        However, you cant do that online , not without the smell lol. So what i suggest you to do is to target the unaware customers. Meaning to say subtle marketing.. in such cases, Google ranking might not be so useful. Such means of marketing works extremely well on social platforms such as Facebook ,Instagram or Pinterest.

        Use pictures instead to lure them into thinking they want it lol. I think thats the most effective way.

        Cheers
        Gabriel
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  • Profile picture of the author odaine21
    Originally Posted by SunlifePastries View Post

    Hi everyone! By way of introduction, I am currently involved in running a social enterprise bakery that is actively focused on raising the employability of elderly low-wage workers and helping to re-integrate them into the workforce. With the shift in consumer trends, we are currently moving into the e-commerce sphere to reach a wider audience and to increase the visibility of our brand.

    In contrast to orders made at our retail store, we provide delivery services and party trays packaging (upon request) for orders made via our website. Additionally, we have also listed our products on various local portals such as FoodPanda and our local Amazon equivalent. While the various channels has somewhat helped to raise our monthly revenue, the sales made via our own website is lacklustre in comparison. I have experimented with social media advertising and Google ad words, and the webpage records an average of 30-40 visitors daily. On our end, we have also integrated the link to our website into our collaterals such as dessert packaging and brochures.

    Would appreciate it if anyone can share their experiences with increasing traffic/ conversion rates for an e-commerce business that caters exclusively to a local community, and also feedback on the general feel of our website. Thank you !

    Link to website: Sunlife Durian Puffs & Pastries

    I have used paid traffic in the past...stuff like facebook ads and bing ads. They worked really well. Also i would recommend doing a review video and uploading it to youtube. customers these days prefer to watch a review before making a purchase
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    • Profile picture of the author SunlifePastries
      Originally Posted by odaine21 View Post

      I have used paid traffic in the past...stuff like facebook ads and bing ads. They worked really well. Also i would recommend doing a review video and uploading it to youtube. customers these days prefer to watch a review before making a purchase
      Hello odaine21, thanks for sharing your experience! For Facebook ads, we have managed to work with advertisement sets which are current costing 0.03 cents per engagement. Whilst the social response to the ads are encouraging, the level of conversion unfortunately remains low The video review sounds like a good idea though, perhaps it will give an impression that the products are highly popular as well if it is done right! Will definitely give that a shot and test the response, cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author violet0176
    Didn't realize that you were based in Singapore. Have you approached retail/grocery stores to sell your product? That's another possible income stream.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
    Originally Posted by SunlifePastries View Post

    Would appreciate it if anyone can share their experiences with increasing traffic/ conversion rates for an e-commerce business that caters exclusively to a local community, and also feedback on the general feel of our website. Thank you !

    Link to website: Sunlife Durian Puffs & Pastries
    Hi Sunlife..

    I run an offline bricks and mortar store and also have online ecommerce businesses.

    You may want to consider an approach that targets larger organisations that wants to have a community involvement and reward it's staff with your product.

    One business I set up was initially targeted at local clientele but what has happened it it has grown into a national supplier and become a preferred supplier to a number of organisations.

    You may want to combine your online efforts with some offline marketing by just mailing some larger businesses and leverage the brands you show on your page as supporters and explain just as you have in your post that you support "low-wage" "Older" workers and you would appreciate their support to keep these people gainfully employed and at the same time make their staff happy by "subscribing" to a weekly delivery of XXX number of puffs or whatever on a specific day each week.

    My best clients have been larger corporates, banks and educational institutions.

    You may find that establishing a link or landing page for these corporate clients to order volume quantities the most profitable way to go.

    You may find you could leverage local media to do a good news story of how your business is bringing joy to both workers and to consumers.

    Promote the volume and the happiness your product brings.

    Do you have capacity to supply a business like Singapore Airlines...for example?

    Bet those puffs would be welcomed by any one of their passengers.
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  • Profile picture of the author SunlifePastries
    Hi everyone! Firstly, thank you so much for taking the time to post a reply and sharing your thoughts. All of these are extremely valuable and I appreciate all the advice given !


    Originally Posted by violet0176 View Post

    Didn't realize that you were based in Singapore. Have you approached retail/grocery stores to sell your product? That's another possible income stream.
    Hi violet0176, yes we have tried approaching grocery stores previously. So far, we have only received a reply from one of the largest grocery chain in Singapore. Unfortunately, they will require a 6 month credit term, and it is not one that our small business can work with at the moment. We will continue to explore the possibility of supplying to local cafes as an alternative approach though. Thanks for the suggestion !


    Originally Posted by groggab View Post

    Hi TS,

    The low amount of searches for "Durain Puffs" is due to the psychology that people usually would not search for it and then buy it. Such Novelty of treats comes in a wave of impulse when you are window shopping and then at the corner of your eyes, you see a durain puff stall and the smell overwhelms you, hence, the consumer goes ahead and purchase it.
    However, you cant do that online , not without the smell lol. So what i suggest you to do is to target the unaware customers. Meaning to say subtle marketing.. in such cases, Google ranking might not be so useful. Such means of marketing works extremely well on social platforms such as Facebook ,Instagram or Pinterest.

    Use pictures instead to lure them into thinking they want it lol. I think thats the most effective way.

    Cheers
    Gabriel
    Hi Gabriel, thanks for taking the time to follow-up on this thread! Yes, I absolutely agree with your comment that people will not usually do a Google search for our products unless they are really craving for it and are sourcing for possible places that carry such products. As with most food items, it is indeed a matter of convenience for most customers, and they are unlikely to travel all the way across Singapore to a shopping mall just to purchase a few dessert items.

    That aside, I have tried out your suggestion of doing subtle marketing on social media as well. With the level of competitiveness in the F&B industry and with Singaporean's preference of having cafe food to enjoy the atmosphere + taking instagram-worthy photos, the success of our current social media marketing efforts are quite limited. Nevertheless, we will continue tweaking our efforts and placing on more emphasis to test if there will be better response.

    On a side note, are you currently running any e-commerce business yourself?

    Originally Posted by Oziboomer View Post

    Hi Sunlife..

    I run an offline bricks and mortar store and also have online ecommerce businesses.

    You may want to consider an approach that targets larger organisations that wants to have a community involvement and reward it's staff with your product.

    One business I set up was initially targeted at local clientele but what has happened it it has grown into a national supplier and become a preferred supplier to a number of organisations.

    You may want to combine your online efforts with some offline marketing by just mailing some larger businesses and leverage the brands you show on your page as supporters and explain just as you have in your post that you support "low-wage" "Older" workers and you would appreciate their support to keep these people gainfully employed and at the same time make their staff happy by "subscribing" to a weekly delivery of XXX number of puffs or whatever on a specific day each week.

    My best clients have been larger corporates, banks and educational institutions.

    You may find that establishing a link or landing page for these corporate clients to order volume quantities the most profitable way to go.

    You may find you could leverage local media to do a good news story of how your business is bringing joy to both workers and to consumers.

    Promote the volume and the happiness your product brings.

    Do you have capacity to supply a business like Singapore Airlines...for example?

    Bet those puffs would be welcomed by any one of their passengers.
    Hi Oziboomer! Thanks for sharing, that is some solid advice indeed! You have mentioned about reaching out to larger businesses and local media through offline marketing. Will you be able to share a little on how to go about doing this successfully based on your past experience? I am new to this and have done some cold approach by emailing the general contact email addresses of such businesses, but have met with limited success since the emails are 1) not likely to be read by the relevant personnel in charge and 2) the likelihood of the email ending up in the Spam folder is extremely high.

    As our operation is small, we unfortunately do not have the capacity to supply to large corporations such as the Singapore Airlines. However, that is a long term goal that we would like to work towards . At the moment, I have managed to reach out to some human resource personnel in MNCs/ smaller local firms, and have obtained the permission to sell our products in their premises for special events. If the business is able to scale up in future, we would then explore the possibility of having a central kitchen to meet the production requirements of large orders.

    I have noted your suggestion regarding a link or landing page for these corporate clients to order volume quantities a well, and will keep that in mind for future reference. Thanks once again, and hope to get a follow-up from you regarding the above query !
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