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Unread 19th March 2013, 09:20 PM   #51
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I used to work for Amazon.com as a CSA (customer service associate) and I can tell you this method of drop shipping is against the TSA, especially for Prime.

The problem is when one of your customers wants to return their product they may contact amazon to do this. The CSA will need to get some information from the customer to process the return, even as a gifted purchase some contact information for the purchaser is required, also order numbers may be required. The CSA will probably take a look at the account to see if there is any way to help the customer and for sure notice there are hundreds of orders purchased as gifts to random people using prime shipping and gets flagged for Prime abuse. It's easy to spot after viewing thousands of accounts, this will stand out to any CSA. Another thing that is common on accounts like this is the person purchasing the "gifts" will use an Amazon.com rewards card for everything to rack up points and turn extra profit.

I've personally flagged multiple accounts for this when I was working at an Amazon.com call center. One thing to note is I don't know what happens to the accounts, all I know is that as a CSA if we notice things like this we're to report it and let some other department look into it.
Thanks for this info. This is something I questioned Roger Langille about and am hoping to get an answer from him about it. It makes sense to me that this would be against Amazon Prime TOS.

However, what if one does NOT use Amazon prime to drop ship ? Is that against Amazon TOS? I don't see why it would be. What would they care if they sell more products because you're buying and drop-shipping via ebay?

Just curious.

Also, as to the shipping in brown box, without amazon on it, that seems to have been answered satisfactorily here. As far as I can tell this thread was not started about FBA, it was started about setting up Amazon to drop-ship to customers of yours on ebay, and so if one can find sellers on amazon that are willing to ship in plain boxes, then I see no reason why this would not work.

So the bottom line to me is this:
Can you find items at amazon, from sellers who'll ship in plain boxes, ship them as gifts - or by any other method - so there is no price info in the box, and buy low and sell high?

If you can do this as above, then you can make money. Period.

And if Roger Langille's course has useful info about doing this more expertly or using nuances of listing, finding products, etc. then it's probably worth the money for at least the basic training.

MY question is, Has anyone bought the training and implemented it for any length of time, and found it to work? or not work?

The key seems to be to :
a) find products at amazon (or other online stores) that you can sell for a higher price on ebay
b) ship without pricing info in the box, preferably without amazon printing on the box

As to using Prime my guess is it IS against the TOS but if so, then fine, just charge for shipping. Prime would be great but if it's risky then why not just open up a new account and use that so as not to risk your old account. Certainly I would not use an Affiliate account to try this...

Would love to hear from people who have tried Roger's methods.

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Just a comment - if you are a prime member - it clearly states in the T of S that

From Amazon - Note: Prime is not available for customers who purchase products for the purpose of resale or use Prime to ship products to their customers or potential customers.

So you are risking losing your prime account, and if you are selling through FBA you are risking losing that account as well.

I bought the program he sells but I've held off doing anything and I am glad I did as I would hate to lose either Amazon or Ebay accounts because I was negligent on checking the Terms of Service. Langille doesn't mention the note above in the videos.

I agree about the secret link its just an affiliate link for him to make money off the products we sell.

Just my 2 cents...
Okay, I checked and you are right. Here's a url for the info on Prime:
Amazon.com Help: About Amazon Prime

It does indeed say
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  • Amazon Prime isn't available for customers who purchase products for the purpose of resale or use Amazon Prime to ship products to their customers or potential customers."
So yeah, this could be a problem.

But what about if one just pays shipping and charges for it?

Then the only issue is if we can legally drop ship via amazon to ebay customers or not... ?

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Just an update from my earlier post...

I went through Roger's videos, but when I got to the one where he tells you to place your orders through a page where he has secretly embedded his affiliate link, I became skeptical. Then when he tells you to use a Prime account to get free shipping--something which is clearly a violation-- I lost trust in him.

I still think you could potentially find items selling for more on eBay than Amazon, and you could legally use Amazon's free supersaver shipping if the item is more than $25. But I'm not convinced you can get plain brown box shipping in most cases. So if I were going to do this, I would just come out and tell the buyer that I use Amazon for fulfillment, so the item might come in an Amazon box. In fact, you could always list the same item at the higher price on Amazon, so it looks like you are selling at the same price in both places.

Having said that, I have not actually done it. I spent some time looking around for items to try it on, and didn't come up with anything with a large enough difference to make it seem worth the trouble

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I'm on the list of a marketer in the UK who regularly promotes this way of selling on ebay. Personally, I always think it's a bit risky. I don't know if I would be brave enough to try it myself as I would hate to get my Amazon account banned!
Don't know if he was from the UK but was a webinar where they showed how this was done.
Looked interesting, but I was a little too nervous about it to get involved.
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In all honesty guys, this is a very shady, and risky method. You are probably better off actually getting the items wholesale as mentioned below in my signature.

We do have a few guys who we are dropshipping for and there is quite a bit to choose from. I say whatever you do, stay away from the consumer electronics, because there is slim pickins there..

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In all honesty guys, this is a very shady, and risky method. You are probably better off actually getting the items wholesale as mentioned below in my signature.

We do have a few guys who we are dropshipping for and there is quite a bit to choose from. I say whatever you do, stay away from the consumer electronics, because there is slim pickins there..
Joe, admittedly I have not researched buying items wholesale to sell, and frankly that doesn't interest me for various reasons.

But frankly, getting the items wholesale seems MUCH RISKIER to me, at least in terms of losing money. I mean, you are investing money and you could buy the wrong things that don't sell and then you're stuck with a whole garage full of whatchacallits, for example.

As to your statement that "this is a very shady, and risky method" I'm not sure what's so shady about it. What is shady about offering an item for sale and drop shipping it from somewhere to their door? They knew the price, they bought it at that price, and they get it delivered at that price. Where is the harm or foul?

The only shady thing I see about Roger Langille's presentation is that he recommends using Amazon Prime to ship the items and that IS clearly against Amazon Prime's TOS. This is the one thing that really bothers me about Roger's system and his trustworthiness. I have written to him about this and it will be interesting to see what he says.

But that said, I don't see any problem with using this system of buying low, selling high and drop-shipping the products. To get around the Prime issue, just charge for the shipping and explain that shipping may take up to 14 business days on the ebay sales page.

That's the way I see it anyway... not that I'm endorsing Roger's system. I don't know enough about it. But that's why I'm here - to get other opinions and I appreciate all comments even if I may disagree with them or find fault.

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Does Amazon prime actually save you much? I am signed up but I have noticed numerous times that the shipping pricing is just included in the product price, IE, when looking at alternate sellers tab, often times the same product comes up by the same seller with a cheaper price w/ the shipping separated out. So is Prime worthwhile in reality?

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This thread is why WF is great.

I'm still fascinated by shiny things, it seems. I guess I'm learning though, something seemed fishy halfway through the webinar I was watching. Glad I checked here first.

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This thread is why WF is great.

I'm still fascinated by shiny things, it seems. I guess I'm learning though, something seemed fishy halfway through the webinar I was watching. Glad I checked here first.

Thanks to everyone on here!

The real genius in his plan is getting everyone to click through using his affiliate id...
You mean he might not practice what he preaches?

Hm. I wonder why.

That is one thing I pride myself in. I actually practice WHILE I preach.

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Does Amazon prime actually save you much? I am signed up but I have noticed numerous times that the shipping pricing is just included in the product price, IE, when looking at alternate sellers tab, often times the same product comes up by the same seller with a cheaper price w/ the shipping separated out. So is Prime worthwhile in reality?
Prime is totally worth it for me!
I buy a lot of stuff via amazon, from tv's to books, to vitamins, misc. electronics and accessories, gifts, etc. Sometimes getting it quick makes a big difference to me, too; I tend to be an impatient person. ;-D And using it for last minute birthday gifts etc is worth it as well.

Additionally you can get free kindle books if you have an amazon Kindle (my wife does), and you can get tons of free movies and tv shows on their Amazon Channel if you have a streaming device that carries Amazon - it seems most do.

I love Amazon and their Prime service!

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This thread is why WF is great.

I'm still fascinated by shiny things, it seems. I guess I'm learning though, something seemed fishy halfway through the webinar I was watching. Glad I checked here first.

Thanks to everyone on here!

The real genius in his plan is getting everyone to click through using his affiliate id...
Helkat, I agree that the WF is great for researching vendors/ training/ systems/ products...

And I agree that Roger's using his affiliate links is smart marketing. I don't see anything intrinsically wrong about it though, unless he doesn't TELL anyone it's an affiliate link. Amazon's TOS does say you have to tell people you profit from your links.

However, all that said, I still don't see any definitive evidence here that the system doesn't work or that it's a scam. He does provide training - I saw the site he offers - he is a top seller on ebay, he does have a lot of experience in IM, and you know what? He sent me his phone number and invited me to call him to discuss his system even though I didn't even buy the basic system!

So all in all, I can't say the system he is selling does not work. In fact some of my research on his system led me to posts saying it DOES work, if perhaps not creating a huge income, but some income anyway.

I admit he has a bad rep on the web and I honestly don't know if he deserves it or not. I know at least one guy on youtube who was downing him had really flimsy reasons.

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Way, way back I actually did this on some DVDs - it's totally possible. I had to make sure I bought through a marketplace seller who dispatched in plain packaging (not with Amazon plastered all over it!). I also asked them not to include any invoices in my packages.

I dropshipped several hundred copies of this one DVD, I also tried some others too but this specific title went really well (it was about $10 cheaper on Amazon than eBay). I even made Top Rated Seller just through selling this one product, it was amazing.

I've seen people on eBay who run an entire business dropshipping DVDs/movies through Amazon. Like I say though be careful because people aren't happy when they buy a DVD through eBay, only to have it turn up in Amazon packaging. It is a good way to make money though - and very easy.
Quite difficult to do this.
E.g. Die Hard 1-4 boxset is $30 on Amazon, and on eBay it constantly goes for same price.
Other example, Taken 2 blu ray is $19.99 on Amazon, I see it going for as low as $10. So it will take quite some time until you find something that is sold for lower on Amazon than on eBay. The thing is, seller fees on Amazon are quite higher than on eBay, so it will be difficult to find a seller offering his products there cheaper than on eBay.
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If only Amazon were not so strict!

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Incorrect. If proper research is done this can be an incredible opportunity. For example I sell 1 product on Ebay that ships from Amazon Prime. I earn $4.25 per sale and sell approx. 15 a day. I spend about 3 minutes a day. Not bad.
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I honestly know nothing about amazon. But I was browsing around and came across something that made me think. However I don't think it's as simple as this guy explains it. Maybe I'm wrong. See for yourself.

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I honestly know nothing about amazon. But I was browsing around and came across something that made me think. However I don't think it's as simple as this guy explains it. Maybe I'm wrong. See for yourself.
Looked into this and it seems the guy does Amazon to Ebay arbitrage and makes tons of money. The concern some people on his blog had was how about the invoice Amazon puts in the box sent to the buyer. It contains the actual price he paid for the item, but he says "Almost no one looks at the invoice"!

Worth a look see.

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Hi,

@cyberdog1; how you will find dropship suppliers who has some hundreds or thousands of
cd/dvd's??????

I have not seen a shop who has hundreds of blanks cd and dvd.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Hi,

I found a number of YouTube which through using Amazon as a dropshipping supplier to ebay. The videos were very descriptive and explained in enough detail how to set this up.

I became very interested a quickly found some good products which dont appear to be listed at all in ebay here the UK but have plenty of reviews on Amazon. But then the two points about the box and invoice inside the package emerged.

Since this thread begain has anyone tried this process. Does it work?
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I came across this somewhere else and then came here to check if it was legitimate or not.

I think it is legal and everyone is happy in the end.

I decided to find items that I can have shipped to me first and then I will ship them to the customer. The profit margins are low but it was more of a "can I do this" type of thing.

Well, I have seen why this might not be a good method.

I first posted a few items that I was going to dropship from Amazon but decided that I didn't want to go that route so I would find things on Amazon that most people would not buy from Amazon. I sold a few of them but it seems that other sellers caught on and started selling them too and now Amazon is out of stock. If I sold a few more today, I could have been screwed.

I found that other items are starting to come up as out of stock or have new higher prices as well and people are still selling them on ebay. These people are going to be sad when they find out that the price has gone up.

Here is a good example:
Amazon.com: George Foreman 100-Inch Removable...Amazon.com: George Foreman 100-Inch Removable...
Find some for sale on ebay and you will see that they are being sold for less than Amazon is selling them now.

I guess I will go the old fashioned route. I am a newbie so I have no idea what that is yet but I am sure it is not as fragile as this.
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I'm sorry to say that but you are the one who is telling BS.

Goto this official Amazon link:
Amazon.com Help: Multi-Channel Fulfillment
and scroll down a little bit. There you can read
This is only true if you own the inventory being stored at Amazon's warehouse, so it's not relevant to this thread. I quote from the above link:
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Multi-Channel Fulfillment is Amazon's service to enable you to fulfill orders from sales channels other than Amazon.com (such as your company website) using the inventory that you have stored in the Amazon fulfillment center.
People are still looking for the mythical blank brown box from Amazon for dropshipping purposes, and that remains purely fiction (which is also something Amazon will sell you, but not in a plain brown box ).
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I don't see how you could earn enough doing fulfillment from Amazon to sell on Ebay. It would leave so little margin that there is a good chance that you would come out at a loss most of the time.

Let's say you spend $10-$15 on a DVD. There is usually a lot of competition for the same items on Amazon, which forces the sale price down to a point in which you may be making $.50 in profit. If Amazon fulfills they will charge you a certain amount. Most sellers that have Amazon fulfillment end up selling at a higher price than sellers shipping themselves. This is to cover the cost of Amazon fulfillment. Now you may sell more overall with Amazon fulfillment due to being listed toward the top, which means by volume alone, you may be able to order larger quantities from the producers (manufacturers). If you are fortunate, you may be able to arrange a special deal with them to order at a cost even lower than what is listed on the producer price sheets.

Most people will try to compare prices between Ebay and Amazon for the same products. By the time you factor in the upfront costs at Ebay, especially the Buy it Now price and possibly a reserve, then you would have very little profit, if any at all.

The only way this would be consistently profitable is if you are getting the DVDs at an extraordinarily low cost AND others cannot get these DVDs at that cost or simply not at all.

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I don't see how you could earn enough doing fulfillment from Amazon to sell on Ebay. It would leave so little margin that there is a good chance that you would come out at a loss most of the time.

Let's say you spend $10-$15 on a DVD. There is usually a lot of competition for the same items on Amazon, which forces the sale price down to a point in which you may be making $.50 in profit. If Amazon fulfills they will charge you a certain amount. Most sellers that have Amazon fulfillment end up selling at a higher price than sellers shipping themselves. This is to cover the cost of Amazon fulfillment. Now you may sell more overall with Amazon fulfillment due to being listed toward the top, which means by volume alone, you may be able to order larger quantities from the producers (manufacturers). If you are fortunate, you may be able to arrange a special deal with them to order at a cost even lower than what is listed on the producer price sheets.

Most people will try to compare prices between Ebay and Amazon for the same products. By the time you factor in the upfront costs at Ebay, especially the Buy it Now price and possibly a reserve, then you would have very little profit, if any at all.

The only way this would be consistently profitable is if you are getting the DVDs at an extraordinarily low cost AND others cannot get these DVDs at that cost or simply not at all.
Although I agree that using Amazon for a fulfillment company on eBay is a HORRIBLE idea, (see my earlier posts on this)

There are other deductions you're not taking into account -

Also, make sure your cost to acquire is legitimate and not assumed. I know you're just making a point by 'picking numbers', but when you're finding fair market values, with costs to acquire, there are other deductions that have to be made to find a estimated profit/loss that go beyond what you're mentioning here.

And again - there are no 'UPFRONT' costs.

And there is no such thing as a 'reserve' price on a 'buy it now.'

Plus, you should never do a reserve anyway to increase your views to actions ratio.

Also, why would someone want to sell a DVD in the first place? I know you're just making an example, but DVD's shouldn't be sourced - unless there is a zero cost to acquire (meaning, it was acquired without purpose of selling for profit - like as a gift - or it was just around your home that you're looking to liquidate)

But even still, selling a DVD on eBay does NOT look fun in a Paypal account, and it better just staying at home - or given away because after shipping, you're pretty much break even.

Only sell items that are profitable and legal - and break-even or at a loss is NOT a good business strategy.

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I have used Rogers new system,and it rocks
I started pro,and now am in elite.It gives alot of othersources to use,and one is overstock.
So if you do sell a product,and the product runs out of stock,you have more sources to go see if they got it,and still ship it.

I looked over the thread,and alot of the problems I have seen posted have an answer to them in his new course.
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I use Amazon as my backup distributor... I don't think I would rely on it for the overall business, but if I do get a backorder many times I can fill it from Amazon or an Amazon FBA seller... and surprisingly not all the time, but sometimes it's cheaper than my cost...

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Using Amazon to fulfil your eBay orders under its Multi-channel Fulfilment service is obviously different from purchasing an item on Amazon to send as a gift to your eBay customer—the latter of which will obviously annoy your eBay customers if they think they could have simply bought the item on Amazon cheaper themselves.

But it's perfectly fine and legal to use Amazon's Multi-channel Fulfilment service to ship your eBay orders to your eBay customers (in plain packaging of course).


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This thread amazes me because it shows that huge numbers of people are interested in buying and selling for peanuts in profits.

So few seem to be aware that for a very small outlay you can hold an inventory that allows you full control.

Buying direct from the factory overseas is not an impossible dream even if you have very limited finance available. Small orders can be negotiated regardless of the huge MOQs that worry most people.

Now here's the juicy bit......... Profit margins can be beyond your wildest dreams. This thread is all about buying low, selling high. Until you get quotes from genuine manufacturers you cannot imagine how low you can buy.

Importers look at the pathetic margins made by dropship resellers and laugh all the way to the bank.

To learn safe overseas sourcing and how to buy small (or large) quantities at best prices Click Here: Import Direct from China - How to Avoid the Middleman Learn to find genuine manufacturers and negotiate small orders at prices way below what wholesalers charge. Written after my health enforced retirement and provides insider information from veteran with experience exporting 1978-1987 importing since 1987 Learn to import the easy way
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Buying direct from the factory overseas is not an impossible dream even if you have very limited finance available. Small orders can be negotiated regardless of the huge MOQs that worry most people.
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I dunno, Maybe I'm leaving on different planet, but most of the product either on Amazon or Ebay even cheaper than Chinese manufactures selling them over Alibaba.
Where is those mysterious sources??? Daily I'm searching through hundreds of Closeouts and wholesalers, ether they have junk which are not in demand or
Their prices are higher than Amazon/Ebay. I say China dream is over
After shipping and fees profit margin is 0%

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I dunno, Maybe I'm leaving on different planet, but most of the product either on Amazon or Ebay even cheaper than Chinese manufactures selling them over Alibaba.
Where is those mysterious sources??? Daily I'm searching through hundreds of Closeouts and wholesalers, ether they have junk which are not in demand or
Their prices are higher than Amazon/Ebay. I say China dream is over
After shipping and fees profit margin is 0%
You are quite right about the prices for the simple reason that almost all of the suppliers listed on Alibaba are not manufacturers.

Many of the traders, wholesalers, and middlemen listed on Alibaba and other popular sourcing sites are the very people who are selling on Amazon and eBay in direct competition with people like yourself, but they are not manufacturers.

They are buying much cheaper than you can ever imagine, because they are buying direct from the real manufacturers.

You ask the question: "Where is those mysterious sources???" and the answer is they can be found on the small number of sourcing sites that are safe to use, but they never get a mention on the forum. I list them in my book, but I don't publish them on any forum for very good reasons. It is not just because I want people to buy my book.

For a lot of helpful information as well as reasons why I don't disclose them publicly you might like to have a look at this thread:

If your secret B2B portals are so safe why don't you share?

I repeat what I wrote in the post that you quoted; "Buying direct from the factory overseas is not an impossible dream even if you have very limited finance available. Small orders can be negotiated regardless of the huge MOQs that worry most people."

All you have to do is go to genuine manufacturers to find prices that will not only make it possible for you to compete on Amazon and eBay, but you will find profit margins that can be mind boggling.




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Ya since I have been in DSD,I have gotten out of 3 programs I was in.
Sure frees up the time.lol

I use to have so little time,and always something new coming along I would hop into.Now I just use a couple sites for advertising,along with facebook groups poster,and I have 29 people who have signed up.And they have recruited as well,so Im around 152 people in my whole organization..

It's a pretty easy sell once people get on a webinar and see what actually happens in real time.

Sure starts spreading once you get a few and they see how well it works,and then right on down the line.
And of course Im making ebay sales as well.

Nice time for a change in my portfolio I figured.lol

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Ya since I have been in DSD,I have gotten out of 3 programs I was in.
Sure frees up the time.lol

Nice time for a change in my portfolio I figured.lol
It makes me wonder what you're going to do next, once your accounts are suspended for violating the TOS.

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Terms of service for who????Umm.

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Ok...WEBINAR UPDATE:
Coming in November:



1-Price and stock tracker..I believe this will track changing prices that go up,or down
2-Beta for Auto Lister-Pro and Elite..It will automatically update listings every 3-4 days,keeping it fresh and new to ebay..Will imporve listing stats by changing a couple key words,and keeping your titles fresh and new.Changing them a little so ebay looks at it as a new listing in a way..
3-Beta for DSD Product testing..
4-Affiliate leaders board and contests..Prizes
5-Massive cash back system
6-Holiday shipping and training..
There will be separate training for affiliates and how to learn how to do this..
2014-Global economy shipping.Mass produced us manufactured products shipped globally.
Comp plan improved..
If you sell 3 of a product,your exempt from having to own the product..We all know in the past you had to own the product to make commissions from it..

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Ok...WEBINAR UPDATE:
Coming in November:



1-Price and stock tracker..I believe this will track changing prices that go up,or down
2-Beta for Auto Lister-Pro and Elite..It will automatically update listings every 3-4 days,keeping it fresh and new to ebay..Will imporve listing stats by changing a couple key words,and keeping your titles fresh and new.Changing them a little so ebay looks at it as a new listing in a way..
3-Beta for DSD Product testing..
4-Affiliate leaders board and contests..Prizes
5-Massive cash back system
6-Holiday shipping and training..
There will be separate training for affiliates and how to learn how to do this..
2014-Global economy shipping.Mass produced us manufactured products shipped globally.
Comp plan improved..
If you sell 3 of a product,your exempt from having to own the product..We all know in the past you had to own the product to make commissions from it..
Ok Great news everyone.

The webinar from last night is recorded
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I was doing this exact thing back in the spring, but I grew tired of the hassle of managing everything for really not a lot of profit in the end. It made some money yes, but there was a lot of competition & things weren't flying off the ebay shelves either. I decided to get away from it and I think it is for the best. I would go for private labeling products yourself & doing Amazon's FBA.
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I was doing this exact thing back in the spring, but I grew tired of the hassle of managing everything for really not a lot of profit in the end. It made some money yes, but there was a lot of competition & things weren't flying off the ebay shelves either. I decided to get away from it and I think it is for the best. I would go for private labeling products yourself & doing Amazon's FBA.
The subject of Amazon/eBay arbitrage has been dealt with extensively in the thread Roger Langille? and that is where this thread belongs too, because it is just an extension of that subject, promoting the Roger Langille system.

Numerous posts there stated that there was too much work and not enough profit in that system.

Your idea of private labeling of products is one that has been proven over and over again to work very well. I have shown many people how to do it.

Choose what product will sell readily and know what price you can sell for, as well as all your selling costs, then locate a manufacturer in China. Get them to add your own label or brand and you can then sell at big profits.

Depending on product type it is possible to have your own brand/logo/label added to small quantities. Many, many manufacturers will do this for you, and if you choose the right product the private labeling can be very low cost.

Note that I said "manufacturers". The huge number of traders listed as manufacturers on most of the popular sourcing sites won't look at private labeling except on big quantities, but the genuine factories will.

To learn safe overseas sourcing and how to buy small (or large) quantities at best prices Click Here: Import Direct from China - How to Avoid the Middleman Learn to find genuine manufacturers and negotiate small orders at prices way below what wholesalers charge. Written after my health enforced retirement and provides insider information from veteran with experience exporting 1978-1987 importing since 1987 Learn to import the easy way
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You are quite right. I tried it out for a month or so after seeing a product for sale (for the life of me I can't recall the name of it) that promoted the Amazon-to-Ebay arbitrage system. I did not buy the info product because it seemed easy enough at first glance, but once I got started, I saw how tedious it really was to list products (and keep an eye on their availability & pricing) and to get the products to the right customer It is not easy to ramp up (at least the way I was doing it), and looking back (as one of the posters above noted) it may have been borderline going-against the TOS of one of the sites. I stopped and really would not recommend it personally.

I am just now exploring the idea of private labeling products for Amazon FBA, so I haven't done it yet. I would love to hear more from you on the subject of finding manufacturers. Do you use Alibaba very often?
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Sorry... I just saw your post above on Alibaba. I was under the impression that Alibaba was the place to go to find products from China. I would like to know more about how to find the true source of products & to do so without huge outlay of cash (under $1K). Are you currently selling products on Amazon FBA?

I see you have a book and may buy it when I am ready to go.

Question, what products do you steer clear of from overseas? I would think that would obviously be health supplements, but is there any others that you would not touch with a 10-foot pole (so to speak)?
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Sorry... I just saw your post above on Alibaba. I was under the impression that Alibaba was the place to go to find products from China. I would like to know more about how to find the true source of products & to do so without huge outlay of cash (under $1K). Are you currently selling products on Amazon FBA?

I see you have a book and may buy it when I am ready to go.

Question, what products do you steer clear of from overseas? I would think that would obviously be health supplements, but is there any others that you would not touch with a 10-foot pole (so to speak)?
Hi CChandler,

I don't sell anything on eBay or Amazon. I am retired and the only thing I do now is help people enter the world of importing.

Once you have decided what product/s to sell, it is easy to locate real manufacturers who will supply at genuine ex-factory prices. You can forget about the big Minimum Order Quantities (MOQs) that scare most people off direct importing. They are only there to deter newbies and small fry, but I teach how to get around that.

The products that I would avoid are electronics and big brand names. Yes I agree about health supplements but I would also avoid food products and cosmetics.

Quality is available from China but it reminds me of disciplining a child; you will only get what you demand from them.

I avoid Alibaba and other popular sourcing sites because it is nearly impossible to know if you are dealing with real manufacturers, but there are several places that I recommend where you can find genuine manufacturers.

To learn safe overseas sourcing and how to buy small (or large) quantities at best prices Click Here: Import Direct from China - How to Avoid the Middleman Learn to find genuine manufacturers and negotiate small orders at prices way below what wholesalers charge. Written after my health enforced retirement and provides insider information from veteran with experience exporting 1978-1987 importing since 1987 Learn to import the easy way
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Ok after trying this for a week ( DS Domination ) I can tell you it is tedious and time consuming to find profitable products to sell. Sure you could probably make 2 or 3 dollars on an item but that is not worth the time involved. Most items I listed are about 6 to 7 dollar profit. This is after the fees that ebay hits you with. Plus if you sell in certain states you will get hit with taxes on the product sold.

And as previously stated you cannot use Amazon prime to ship items you have sold. It is against amazons terms of service and you could have your account shut down. To get free shipping you have to list items that cost more than $35 on Amazon. The ds domination videos keep talking about items less than that, And you are assured that it is ok to use amazon prime for shipping. FALSE. In my experience the fees will keep you out of lots of items.

Here is an example: Product X is sold on Amazon for $52.99 ( shipping would be free - great! ). You list it on ebay for $62.99. When it sells you will make $10 right? Nope. After fees you will profit $1.57. And if it is sold in 1 of the 12 states that charge taxes, that profit of $1.57 could turn into a loss of $3 or more. WTH?

And There are LOTS of people doing this so there will be a lot of competition. It can be done and Im sure many people make a little money on ebay doing this. Hasnt worked for me yet. I have 15 items listed and NO sales. The gurus can show you how much you will make in these videos all day, but you do not make any money until you SELL your item.

Proceed with caution my friends.

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Thanks for your account. That has been my experience as well.

Like so many things in IM, 98% of the time you will make little to no money with a method. But if you work at it really hard, spend lots of time, and find just the right niche, you can make some decent money.

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I got into a program that use this methods but quitted the same week. I believe this is unethical and wonder how people feel comfortable doing it?

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I think you're right. I've looked into the profit margins and they're incredibly bad. Anyone who does this would have an enormous amount of work ahead of them just to even find the products that had margins at all.

I think I'll scrap this idea and continue to focus on Amazon Associates, product creation etc. Much more profitable.

It would have been a fun source of extra profit though if things were different.
I would not give up so quick, a popular MLM promotes selling products on eBay and drop shipping from Amazon. They have over 17,000 members now I hear and that is their primary how-to product they pitch so it's working for a lot of people. Searching Youtube results in over 80,000 hits of people either using or promoting that MLM's how-to. I'm not in it the MLM myself but me and my friends basically use the same techniques for dropshipping.

To see others doing it yourself, pick any Amazon or eBay product and search both websites, you will find LOTS of people selling Amazon products on eBay. Pay attention to the markted up prices and look at the number of items sold. Though number of items sold only shows when sellers provide a quantity of more than 1. Most people only list a quantity of one, so others will not know what they're selling lots of anyway.

Another important point is this does not just work with Amazon. Walmart and Overstock are the next biggest suppliers for dropshipping for these types of eBay sellers.

You'll hear some people say drop shipping from Amazon is against their TOS but that is not entirely true. It's against Amazon's TOS to use their Prime (free shipping) service which is for personal use, to drop ship hundreds or 1000s of products to other people. You do not need Prime anyway. Most of the products you want to sell anyway have Free shipping and are over $35. Anything less and there is no profit margin.

I say all this because me and lots of my friends are doing this and have been doing it for a while... so much so that we created this tool here to help us monitor the Amazon prices which continually change.

If you're doing this type of dropshipping this tool is essensial and currently free during the beta testing phase.

http://DropShipToolbox.com

If this eBay technique was not profitable, there would not be whole MLM businesses created around this concept nor would I have wasted so much time to create a program that helps us monitor price changes to make sure our eBay sales are always profitable.

DropShipToolBox monitors prices changes, calculates your profit and lets you quickly know which of your eBay listings is no longer profitable. It currenly tracks product sources on from 8 domains. This is not just about just using Amazon to fulfill orders.

Using this tool has helped one in my group narrow down a list of 1000 products that nets near $10,000/month, Another made about $2000 with 300 listings. The tool basically saves time and makes you more efficient.

There are 1000s of people using this technique out there. Many keep quiet about it and others sell how-to products and tips on how to do it. But once you get the basics down. It's not so difficult.

It's just sometimes tedious which is why we created the tool I just mentioned. Currently free as we're still testing and just started publicly allowing more beta testers to try it out.

http://DropShipToolbox.com

You can check it out but you will only find it useful if you already have active eBay listings as it automatically imports and updates your active eBay item details for matching with product source dropshippers. It's pretty slick and very useful to monitor your listings and profits. Many features that let you search, sort and create reports even.

Don't give up so easy, eBay is one of the few real and basic ways of making a good online income.
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I agree with many here that offering products that you don't OWN on Ebay and then buying from Amazon is really risky for a lot of reason (they could run out of stock, the price could go up, you could potentially get your account banned.) I do, however, use my FBA inventory to fulfill Ebay orders (products I own that are stored in Amazon's warehouses.) This is a great way to sell things without every having to touch them (the suppliers ship straight to Amazon or in some cases to my outsourcer who ships to Amazon). The only time I've ever used an Amazon listing (not mine) to fulfill an Ebay order is if I've run out of stock or made a quantity error. In that case, I'll write the buyer and give them the option of a refund or fulfilling their order through another seller explaining that I ran out of stock. This way the buyer is fully aware where the order is coming from and usually appreciates the extra effort- I've often done this at a loss, but customers will talk about this experience where the seller took a frustrating experience and "went the extra mile."

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The new price fluctuation software Hitesh is working on will be available right around x-mas time Nice deal.It will also let you keep track of earnings,as well as prices going up or down,amongst some other goodies in the software.The video from our last webby was great.And soon we will have our own products,as Roger is working on some other things for 2014 too.So it keeps getting better and better on my end here... Having a source through him will really explode things.Everyones excited

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