Using Amazon as a Dropshipping Company for eBay?

by Cyberdog1 123 replies
After selling a lot of my own stuff on eBay I done some research on the guys who were selling more than me in the DVD area for example and noticed this on some of their listings:

"Some of our products will be shipped from Amazon as we hold stock at their fulfillment centre"


That's fine I thought as this is perfectly acceptable but I then thought -

What if they didn't have their own stock there and were actually just using Amazon as the biggest dropship/supply company in the Country?

So I looked into it and a few of the sellers were selling around 2000-3000 products per month all shipped from Amazon amongst other places. I ordered one Cheap DVD and it did come Direct from Amazon with the message that 'seller' was sending it as a gift to me.

The prices of almost all the DVDs sold are around less than $1.50 cheaper on Amazon and so by using the free Delivery service also and charging for delivery on eBay, after fees they are probably making $1-$2 per item sold.

Not much you say and it would take a good few hours a day to admin all that but as a full time job you would be making around $2000 per month.

Now if you are using the same Credit Card on Amazon to purchase the stock and have delivered to different customers than surely the benefits of spending over $20,000 per year on one card would be huge wouldn't they?

I know eBay allow dropshippers but Amazon are a bit sketchy in their T&Cs. The Bottom Line is this - Is This Legal?
#ecommerce sites, wholesaling & drop shipping #amazon #company #dropshipping #ebay
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    I have seen this question pop up a couple of times on various forums and the general consensus tends to be yes, it is acceptable since you were happy with the price you paid anyway, with no hidden extras.

    Dropshipping is all about sourcing products cheaply and if someone found agood source then why can't they use it?

    You yourself thought it perfectly acceptable didn't you that products would be shipped from elsewhere, is the problem that you didn't find it on Amazon yourself for cheaper? :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberdog1
    No not at all, there's no problem I just wish I'd thought of it before haha

    Must be a lot of hard work though putting in people's details...I wonder if they use affiliate links as well!?

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    • Profile picture of the author Mollysue
      I'm on the list of a marketer in the UK who regularly promotes this way of selling on ebay. Personally, I always think it's a bit risky. I don't know if I would be brave enough to try it myself as I would hate to get my Amazon account banned!
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      • Profile picture of the author adamprince1981
        Originally Posted by Mollysue View Post

        I'm on the list of a marketer in the UK who regularly promotes this way of selling on ebay. Personally, I always think it's a bit risky. I don't know if I would be brave enough to try it myself as I would hate to get my Amazon account banned!
        Don't know if he was from the UK but was a webinar where they showed how this was done.
        Looked interesting, but I was a little too nervous about it to get involved.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Fulfillment By Amazon (FBA) requires the product to be acquired by the seller, then shipped to Amazon, before the item can be sold.

    They are not buying these products from Amazon, but rather acquiring through other channels, then sending them to Amazon to let Amazon handle storage and shipment of the products.
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    • Profile picture of the author jjturner
      Incorrect. If proper research is done this can be an incredible opportunity. For example I sell 1 product on Ebay that ships from Amazon Prime. I earn $4.25 per sale and sell approx. 15 a day. I spend about 3 minutes a day. Not bad.
      About product sourcing (drop shipping)
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  • Profile picture of the author rooze
    There are two different scenarios here -

    "Some of our products will be shipped from Amazon as we hold stock at their fulfillment centre"

    If they use Amazon's fulfillment center then it is for products they have purchased and supplied to Amazon for fulfillment.
    This is very different than drop-shipping. Drop-shipping in this context is where they would receive an ebay order, then purchase products from other vendors who are using Amazon's fulfillment center, then specify their eBay customers' shipping address for the order.

    Both are options, both supply the end customer with the same product, but they are very different business models.
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    • Profile picture of the author blackjack
      TPW

      If the seller is using FBA then it is as you stated.

      But OP stated receiving packing with "Gift from eBay Seller" which means the seller bought it on Amazon and then use Gift Option under delivery address.

      This is all possible but there are few risks.

      1. You sold on eBay but the product is no longer available on Amazon.
      2. If you are using Prime option to get free delivery then you are getting close to getting your Amazon account.
      3. The product is damaged etc how do you deal with returns.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberdog1
    That's right, he was clearly stating the fact items would be sent from amazon to cover himself if a buyer queried the reason why it came from amazon.

    It's clever but you're right, it does come with risks. But risks that can easily be overcome.
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  • Profile picture of the author arwa99
    I think it's a lot of risks
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  • Profile picture of the author tgpros
    Way, way back I actually did this on some DVDs - it's totally possible. I had to make sure I bought through a marketplace seller who dispatched in plain packaging (not with Amazon plastered all over it!). I also asked them not to include any invoices in my packages.

    I dropshipped several hundred copies of this one DVD, I also tried some others too but this specific title went really well (it was about $10 cheaper on Amazon than eBay). I even made Top Rated Seller just through selling this one product, it was amazing.

    I've seen people on eBay who run an entire business dropshipping DVDs/movies through Amazon. Like I say though be careful because people aren't happy when they buy a DVD through eBay, only to have it turn up in Amazon packaging. It is a good way to make money though - and very easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author swtp43
      Originally Posted by tgpros View Post

      Way, way back I actually did this on some DVDs - it's totally possible. I had to make sure I bought through a marketplace seller who dispatched in plain packaging (not with Amazon plastered all over it!). I also asked them not to include any invoices in my packages.

      I dropshipped several hundred copies of this one DVD, I also tried some others too but this specific title went really well (it was about $10 cheaper on Amazon than eBay). I even made Top Rated Seller just through selling this one product, it was amazing.

      I've seen people on eBay who run an entire business dropshipping DVDs/movies through Amazon. Like I say though be careful because people aren't happy when they buy a DVD through eBay, only to have it turn up in Amazon packaging. It is a good way to make money though - and very easy.
      Are you aware of any product detailing how to do this without hanging oneself? I'd like to give it a try but being new I want to avoid any screw ups.

      Thanks, swtp43 (alex)
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    • Profile picture of the author swtp43
      Originally Posted by tgpros View Post

      Way, way back I actually did this on some DVDs - it's totally possible. I had to make sure I bought through a marketplace seller who dispatched in plain packaging (not with Amazon plastered all over it!). I also asked them not to include any invoices in my packages.

      I dropshipped several hundred copies of this one DVD, I also tried some others too but this specific title went really well (it was about $10 cheaper on Amazon than eBay). I even made Top Rated Seller just through selling this one product, it was amazing.

      I've seen people on eBay who run an entire business dropshipping DVDs/movies through Amazon. Like I say though be careful because people aren't happy when they buy a DVD through eBay, only to have it turn up in Amazon packaging. It is a good way to make money though - and very easy.
      Are you aware of any product detailing how to do this without hanging oneself? I'd like to give it a try but being new I want to avoid any screw ups. If so, would you please PM me.

      Thanks, swtp43 (alex)
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    • Profile picture of the author KatrinaPuckett
      I am thinking about doing this for the first time. Not sure how risky this will be, but it sounds like you've had great success with this. Could you lend some tips and definite no-nos. I'm fairly new to Ebay/Amazon selling. Could you PM me and let me know. Also, how were you able to get the plain packaging? Please PM me. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author KatrinaPuckett
      Originally Posted by tgpros View Post

      Way, way back I actually did this on some DVDs - it's totally possible. I had to make sure I bought through a marketplace seller who dispatched in plain packaging (not with Amazon plastered all over it!). I also asked them not to include any invoices in my packages.

      I dropshipped several hundred copies of this one DVD, I also tried some others too but this specific title went really well (it was about $10 cheaper on Amazon than eBay). I even made Top Rated Seller just through selling this one product, it was amazing.

      I've seen people on eBay who run an entire business dropshipping DVDs/movies through Amazon. Like I say though be careful because people aren't happy when they buy a DVD through eBay, only to have it turn up in Amazon packaging. It is a good way to make money though - and very easy.
      I am thinking about doing this for the first time. Not sure how risky this will be, but it sounds like you've had great success with this. Could you lend some tips and definite no-nos. I'm fairly new to Ebay/Amazon selling. Could you PM me and let me know. Also, how were you able to get the plain packaging? Please PM me. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author globaltuning
      Originally Posted by tgpros View Post

      Way, way back I actually did this on some DVDs - it's totally possible. I had to make sure I bought through a marketplace seller who dispatched in plain packaging (not with Amazon plastered all over it!). I also asked them not to include any invoices in my packages.

      I dropshipped several hundred copies of this one DVD, I also tried some others too but this specific title went really well (it was about $10 cheaper on Amazon than eBay). I even made Top Rated Seller just through selling this one product, it was amazing.

      I've seen people on eBay who run an entire business dropshipping DVDs/movies through Amazon. Like I say though be careful because people aren't happy when they buy a DVD through eBay, only to have it turn up in Amazon packaging. It is a good way to make money though - and very easy.
      Quite difficult to do this.
      E.g. Die Hard 1-4 boxset is $30 on Amazon, and on eBay it constantly goes for same price.
      Other example, Taken 2 blu ray is $19.99 on Amazon, I see it going for as low as $10. So it will take quite some time until you find something that is sold for lower on Amazon than on eBay. The thing is, seller fees on Amazon are quite higher than on eBay, so it will be difficult to find a seller offering his products there cheaper than on eBay.
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  • Profile picture of the author fresh68
    yea. i sell on both amazon and ebay,,i listed a bunch of items like this until i started reading feedback more closely of those that were doing this.. and they paid 10 or 20 bucks more say goodbye to your feedback.if ebay buyers find out you are doing this you will recieve negative feedback, and ebay is tightening up on sellers in many areas, i personally pulled all my listings,, i cant afford to lose either account
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    You might want to research DVD fullfillment businesses, as Amazon usually has a big mark-up on anything that goes through them, so why not get the DVD's done cheaper? Having said that, the reputation of Amazon is great, so you'd have to test whether their reputation more than makes up for their higher cost, or not!

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    • Profile picture of the author bkat52
      hmm, this sounds very interesting..but one that has just a tad too much risk for my taste. I can see there being some headaches and upset ebay buyers. And for those reasons, I'm staying away.
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  • Profile picture of the author handikabay
    do you use automatic system on ebay ? i think if have thousand product it need more time to order on amazon. and your profit really low.
    i appreciate your technic..
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  • Profile picture of the author ebaypowerguru
    This is very risky - dropshipping as a business model will not work in the long term. This is because, if whatever reason the supplier, ie Amazon in this case, runs out of stock or send goods late you can have very unhappy customers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    It is legal in the sense that laws allow it.

    However, eBay themselves are Not fond of it. If you were to make about $2,000 in profit a month, you are probably processing at least 1,500 DVD's a month (which isn't hard to manage yourself) which is about, lets say $5200 in sales a month - eBay is going to want you to call them about your plans with eBay and in a round-about way, ask if you are dropshipping or figure out of you are selling pirated DVD's.

    You said you were already selling DVD's so you might pass eBays minimal inspection. You also have to be careful too because people simply won't like the fact that their DVD's come arrived with an Invoice showing how much You paid, and with the Amazon logo all over the box. This could result in lower DSR's and can kill your business pretty quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author homer343
    Hi All,

    I'm a bit late on the scene on this discussion sorry, but I watched a webinar recently on a guy called Roger Langille who is doing this exact strategy and making a killing with it. Naturally I am a little sceptical as I'm sure it is breaking all sorts of t's & c's somewhere along the line, but I am still intrigued. Has anyone implemented any of the idea's with any degree of success?

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  • Read this thread... I picked off Roger Langille pretty easily in no time:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/building...-langille.html
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      Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post

      Read this thread... I picked off Roger Langille pretty easily in no time:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/building...-langille.html
      Awesome, thanks for that! Always pays to ask the question I guess
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      • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
        I have been going through his videos, and I have to say the method seems promising, although a little sketchy. He gives ways to find products that sell for more on eBay than what you can buy them for on Amazon.

        They key is to have Amazon ship as a gift to your eBay customer, and to use Amazon Prime account to get free 2 day shipping (while charging for shipping on eBay). And the last step is to get Amazon to ship in a plain brown box so your buyer doesn't know where the item came from. This is the sketchy part... He tells you to go to a "secret website" and click on an Amazon banner that takes you to the Amazon home page. If you order your item that way, it will be shipped in a plain brown box. It just so happens that banner has his Amazon Associates code embedded in it so he will make commissions on all your dropshipping purchases. Not bad, eh?

        As far as I can tell, anyone can go to the home page at Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more and place an order, and it will be shipped in the plain box. Don't ask me why this is... maybe someone else knows. Anyway, that is the "secret"
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        • Profile picture of the author reycaribe
          Originally Posted by gcintermed View Post


          They key is to have Amazon ship as a gift to your eBay customer, and to use Amazon Prime account to get free 2 day shipping (while charging for shipping on eBay). And the last step is to get Amazon to ship in a plain brown box so your buyer doesn't know where the item came from. This is the sketchy part... He tells you to go to a "secret website" and click on an Amazon banner that takes you to the Amazon home page. If you order your item that way, it will be shipped in a plain brown box. It just so happens that banner has his Amazon Associates code embedded in it so he will make commissions on all your dropshipping purchases. Not bad, eh?

          As far as I can tell, anyone can go to the home page at Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more and place an order, and it will be shipped in the plain box. Don't ask me why this is... maybe someone else knows. Anyway, that is the "secret"
          Yeah it seems he made this method in order to get affiliate sales from his students when they order from his banner that prompts the item to be shipped as gift.

          I'm not technical enough to figure how to make my own.
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        • Profile picture of the author kayvee
          I just spoke with 2 different amazon customer service reps. I told them I wanted to buy a gift for a friend off amazon and have it shipped to my friend. They said there is no plain box. All boxes will have the amazon logo. They said they could hide the prices if we selected the "its a gift" option.

          Does anyone have any experience that is different than this?
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    Someone else suggested that any item ordered as a gift will be shipped discreetly. Makes sense, but I don't know if that is true. Might just have to buy myself a gift
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    • Profile picture of the author traeth
      Just a comment - if you are a prime member - it clearly states in the T of S that

      From Amazon - Note: Prime is not available for customers who purchase products for the purpose of resale or use Prime to ship products to their customers or potential customers.

      So you are risking losing your prime account, and if you are selling through FBA you are risking losing that account as well.

      I bought the program he sells but I've held off doing anything and I am glad I did as I would hate to lose either Amazon or Ebay accounts because I was negligent on checking the Terms of Service. Langille doesn't mention the note above in the videos.

      I agree about the secret link its just an affiliate link for him to make money off the products we sell.

      Just my 2 cents...
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      • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
        Originally Posted by traeth View Post

        Just a comment - if you are a prime member - it clearly states in the T of S that

        From Amazon - Note: Prime is not available for customers who purchase products for the purpose of resale or use Prime to ship products to their customers or potential customers.

        So you are risking losing your prime account, and if you are selling through FBA you are risking losing that account as well.

        I bought the program he sells but I've held off doing anything and I am glad I did as I would hate to lose either Amazon or Ebay accounts because I was negligent on checking the Terms of Service. Langille doesn't mention the note above in the videos.

        I agree about the secret link its just an affiliate link for him to make money off the products we sell.

        Just my 2 cents...
        Okay, I checked and you are right. Here's a url for the info on Prime:
        Amazon.com Help: About Amazon Prime

        It does indeed say
        "Note:
        • Amazon Prime isn't available for customers who purchase products for the purpose of resale or use Amazon Prime to ship products to their customers or potential customers."
        So yeah, this could be a problem.

        But what about if one just pays shipping and charges for it?

        Then the only issue is if we can legally drop ship via amazon to ebay customers or not... ?
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  • Profile picture of the author biz33ham
    I been drop shipping on ebay using Amazon FBA for the last 4 years and it has worked for me and I don't use prime and we at Drop Ship Consultants have shipped product all over the Globe using the drop shipping method and we wrote a book on drop shipping and have sold many copies. I AM NOT WRITING THIS TO SELL ANYTHING JUST THING OUT SIDE OF THE BOX REMEMBER THE WORLD IS NOT FLAT. WHEN A PERSON SAY THINGS CAN'T DONE GUESS WHAT? THEY ARE STUCK AND TO THEM IT WON'T GET DONE. Drop Ship Consultants
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  • Profile picture of the author malia
    Fulfillment by Amazon offers a plain box for an additional fee per shipment (0.30 cents I believe). So if it's coming in a plain box then its likely coming from an amazon store that pays for that option.

    That could mean the seller is using FBA or the seller knows which Amazon sellers are using the plain box.
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    • Profile picture of the author blackjack
      Originally Posted by malia View Post

      Fulfillment by Amazon offers a plain box for an additional fee per shipment (0.30 cents I believe)..
      This is totally BS. Amazon doesn't offer anything that give seller any choice to send product to customer in PLAIN box.

      There are few videos on Youtube claiming that using their link, you can get product shipped in plain or brown boxes. Those links are affiliate links to get you to Amazon site.

      AMAZON DOES NOT OFFER CHOICE TO SHIP IN PLAIN BOXES for FBA .
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      • Profile picture of the author ChrisWF
        Originally Posted by blackjack View Post

        This is totally BS. Amazon doesn't offer anything that give seller any choice to send product to customer in PLAIN box.

        There are few videos on Youtube claiming that using their link, you can get product shipped in plain or brown boxes. Those links are affiliate links to get you to Amazon site.

        AMAZON DOES NOT OFFER CHOICE TO SHIP IN PLAIN BOXES for FBA .
        Hi Blackjack

        I'm sorry to say that but you are the one who is telling BS.

        Goto this official Amazon link:
        Amazon.com Help: Multi-Channel Fulfillment
        and scroll down a little bit. There you can read

        What type of box or packaging is used for Multi-Channel Fulfillment orders?
        You have the option to have your Multi-Channel Fulfillment orders sent in standard Amazon packaging that includes Amazon logos or in Brand Neutral (or non-branded) boxes. Shipments using the Brand Neutral service are charged an additional fee. See Branding Options for Multi-Channel Fulfillment.

        In the past you were right but for over a year now you can chose Neutral boxes. The IM World is changing in a fast pace and new stuff is coming every day. You need to stay on top of that.
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        • Profile picture of the author blackjack
          Do you know the difference between FBA and Multi-Channel Fulfillment?

          Yes you can choose box plain or Amazon logo for Multi Channel Fulfillments but not for FBA.
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        • Profile picture of the author calliope
          Originally Posted by ChrisWF View Post

          Hi Blackjack

          I'm sorry to say that but you are the one who is telling BS.

          Goto this official Amazon link:
          Amazon.com Help: Multi-Channel Fulfillment
          and scroll down a little bit. There you can read
          This is only true if you own the inventory being stored at Amazon's warehouse, so it's not relevant to this thread. I quote from the above link:
          Multi-Channel Fulfillment is Amazon's service to enable you to fulfill orders from sales channels other than Amazon.com (such as your company website) using the inventory that you have stored in the Amazon fulfillment center.
          People are still looking for the mythical blank brown box from Amazon for dropshipping purposes, and that remains purely fiction (which is also something Amazon will sell you, but not in a plain brown box ).
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  • Profile picture of the author malia
    Do you know the difference between FBA and Multi-Channel Fulfillment?

    Yes you can choose box plain or Amazon logo for Multi Channel Fulfillments but not for FBA.
    I think you're splitting hairs over this.

    Amazon.com Help: Fulfillment by Amazon

    FBA is used to describe selling on amazon and selling outside of Amazon, interchangeably (by Amazon themselves).

    The gist is if you're shipping orders placed on amazon.com (amazon marketplace) it goes in an Amazon box. If you're selling to customers outside of Amazon.com (including using Amazon webstore), you CAN choose to have it shipped in a brown box.
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  • Profile picture of the author StorminRH
    I used to work for Amazon.com as a CSA (customer service associate) and I can tell you this method of drop shipping is against the TSA, especially for Prime.

    The problem is when one of your customers wants to return their product they may contact amazon to do this. The CSA will need to get some information from the customer to process the return, even as a gifted purchase some contact information for the purchaser is required, also order numbers may be required. The CSA will probably take a look at the account to see if there is any way to help the customer and for sure notice there are hundreds of orders purchased as gifts to random people using prime shipping and gets flagged for Prime abuse. It's easy to spot after viewing thousands of accounts, this will stand out to any CSA. Another thing that is common on accounts like this is the person purchasing the "gifts" will use an Amazon.com rewards card for everything to rack up points and turn extra profit.

    I've personally flagged multiple accounts for this when I was working at an Amazon.com call center. One thing to note is I don't know what happens to the accounts, all I know is that as a CSA if we notice things like this we're to report it and let some other department look into it.
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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by StorminRH View Post

      I used to work for Amazon.com as a CSA (customer service associate) and I can tell you this method of drop shipping is against the TSA, especially for Prime.

      The problem is when one of your customers wants to return their product they may contact amazon to do this. The CSA will need to get some information from the customer to process the return, even as a gifted purchase some contact information for the purchaser is required, also order numbers may be required. The CSA will probably take a look at the account to see if there is any way to help the customer and for sure notice there are hundreds of orders purchased as gifts to random people using prime shipping and gets flagged for Prime abuse. It's easy to spot after viewing thousands of accounts, this will stand out to any CSA. Another thing that is common on accounts like this is the person purchasing the "gifts" will use an Amazon.com rewards card for everything to rack up points and turn extra profit.

      I've personally flagged multiple accounts for this when I was working at an Amazon.com call center. One thing to note is I don't know what happens to the accounts, all I know is that as a CSA if we notice things like this we're to report it and let some other department look into it.
      Thanks for this info. This is something I questioned Roger Langille about and am hoping to get an answer from him about it. It makes sense to me that this would be against Amazon Prime TOS.

      However, what if one does NOT use Amazon prime to drop ship ? Is that against Amazon TOS? I don't see why it would be. What would they care if they sell more products because you're buying and drop-shipping via ebay?

      Just curious.

      Also, as to the shipping in brown box, without amazon on it, that seems to have been answered satisfactorily here. As far as I can tell this thread was not started about FBA, it was started about setting up Amazon to drop-ship to customers of yours on ebay, and so if one can find sellers on amazon that are willing to ship in plain boxes, then I see no reason why this would not work.

      So the bottom line to me is this:
      Can you find items at amazon, from sellers who'll ship in plain boxes, ship them as gifts - or by any other method - so there is no price info in the box, and buy low and sell high?

      If you can do this as above, then you can make money. Period.

      And if Roger Langille's course has useful info about doing this more expertly or using nuances of listing, finding products, etc. then it's probably worth the money for at least the basic training.

      MY question is, Has anyone bought the training and implemented it for any length of time, and found it to work? or not work?

      The key seems to be to :
      a) find products at amazon (or other online stores) that you can sell for a higher price on ebay
      b) ship without pricing info in the box, preferably without amazon printing on the box

      As to using Prime my guess is it IS against the TOS but if so, then fine, just charge for shipping. Prime would be great but if it's risky then why not just open up a new account and use that so as not to risk your old account. Certainly I would not use an Affiliate account to try this...

      Would love to hear from people who have tried Roger's methods.
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      • Profile picture of the author scottyhouge
        Ya since I have been in DSD,I have gotten out of 3 programs I was in.
        Sure frees up the time.lol

        I use to have so little time,and always something new coming along I would hop into.Now I just use a couple sites for advertising,along with facebook groups poster,and I have 29 people who have signed up.And they have recruited as well,so Im around 152 people in my whole organization..

        It's a pretty easy sell once people get on a webinar and see what actually happens in real time.

        Sure starts spreading once you get a few and they see how well it works,and then right on down the line.
        And of course Im making ebay sales as well.

        Nice time for a change in my portfolio I figured.lol
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      • Profile picture of the author scottyhouge
        Ok...WEBINAR UPDATE:
        Coming in November:



        1-Price and stock tracker..I believe this will track changing prices that go up,or down
        2-Beta for Auto Lister-Pro and Elite..It will automatically update listings every 3-4 days,keeping it fresh and new to ebay..Will imporve listing stats by changing a couple key words,and keeping your titles fresh and new.Changing them a little so ebay looks at it as a new listing in a way..
        3-Beta for DSD Product testing..
        4-Affiliate leaders board and contests..Prizes
        5-Massive cash back system
        6-Holiday shipping and training..
        There will be separate training for affiliates and how to learn how to do this..
        2014-Global economy shipping.Mass produced us manufactured products shipped globally.
        Comp plan improved..
        If you sell 3 of a product,your exempt from having to own the product..We all know in the past you had to own the product to make commissions from it..
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        • Profile picture of the author scottyhouge
          Originally Posted by scottyhouge View Post

          Ok...WEBINAR UPDATE:
          Coming in November:



          1-Price and stock tracker..I believe this will track changing prices that go up,or down
          2-Beta for Auto Lister-Pro and Elite..It will automatically update listings every 3-4 days,keeping it fresh and new to ebay..Will imporve listing stats by changing a couple key words,and keeping your titles fresh and new.Changing them a little so ebay looks at it as a new listing in a way..
          3-Beta for DSD Product testing..
          4-Affiliate leaders board and contests..Prizes
          5-Massive cash back system
          6-Holiday shipping and training..
          There will be separate training for affiliates and how to learn how to do this..
          2014-Global economy shipping.Mass produced us manufactured products shipped globally.
          Comp plan improved..
          If you sell 3 of a product,your exempt from having to own the product..We all know in the past you had to own the product to make commissions from it..
          Ok Great news everyone.

          The webinar from last night is recorded
          DS Domination News You Need October 27 2013

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        I wanted invite you to our company webinar tonight.

        Be sure to register and log in early
        because they tend to fill up.
        Register HERE.

        Roger and Hitish will be on.
        8 PM-7 Central......... Everyone can attend.
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        Tonights webinar is where you can actually see how it works,and whats going on with things.
        Click HERE to register for it,and see how Roger does things.

        Opprtunity webinars are on Tuesdays. 8 PM-7 Central.
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    • Profile picture of the author vencedor08
      I got into a program that use this methods but quitted the same week. I believe this is unethical and wonder how people feel comfortable doing it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Streamline
    This is a very interesting thread. My thanks to everyone for sharing their personal stories. I've been reading it because I shelled out $47 on Roger Langille's training, and I'm about halfway through the videos. It does seem risky.. not sure how I want to proceed. Too bad he doesn't have a refund policy for the $47 I spent, but now I can see why!
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  • Profile picture of the author RMC
    I have heard that a lot of people are using OverStock items to sell on eBay.
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Casey
      Originally Posted by ebaywarlord View Post

      I have absolutely good model which better than source products from Amazon to sell on ebay below is detail.

      I plan to launch my project in the next month.
      My project focus in Japanese products, and I directly deal with Japanese supplier myself.
      I already prepare high standard warehouse, QC team, and logistic in Japan.
      Now, I am gathering ebay seller who interest to work with me in USA, UK and AU. I limited only 7 sellers per country because I need to ensure all of my team will get the maximum profit.
      If you want to know detail, you can contact me.
      PM me please...
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    • Profile picture of the author Idahosurfer86
      Originally Posted by ebaywarlord View Post

      I have absolutely good model which better than source products from Amazon to sell on ebay below is detail.

      I plan to launch my project in the next month.
      My project focus in Japanese products, and I directly deal with Japanese supplier myself.
      I already prepare high standard warehouse, QC team, and logistic in Japan.
      Now, I am gathering ebay seller who interest to work with me in USA, UK and AU. I limited only 7 sellers per country because I need to ensure all of my team will get the maximum profit.
      If you want to know detail, you can contact me.
      Please pm me
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    • Profile picture of the author AaronHeid
      Originally Posted by ebaywarlord View Post

      I have absolutely good model which better than source products from Amazon to sell on ebay below is detail.

      I plan to launch my project in the next month.
      My project focus in Japanese products, and I directly deal with Japanese supplier myself.
      I already prepare high standard warehouse, QC team, and logistic in Japan.
      Now, I am gathering ebay seller who interest to work with me in USA, UK and AU. I limited only 7 sellers per country because I need to ensure all of my team will get the maximum profit.
      If you want to know detail, you can contact me.
      please pm me
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  • I'd be very careful, all you people asking for 'PM's'.

    When someone comes out and says: "Hey! I got this awesome product, and I want you all to sell it!"

    More than likely, this isn't the first forum they've posted on, not the first 3 people that have been PM'ed, and not the only people that have received the same message.

    What you're going to find is that all of the sudden, you're going to see the latest-and-greatest product that sells 'awesomely well' and for 'huge profits' be sold by dozens and dozens of people all at the same time.

    The market is going to be completely saturated - not matter how much the poster says 'Nuh uh! I'm totally serious! I double promise!"

    It's very reminiscent of the dot come bubble boom of the early 2000s when every other one of your neighbors started a website selling dog food. The products came from a few suppliers, and they were signing up thousands of people to sell their products.

    So, throughout the entire country, you had, say, 5000 people, selling 50 dog food products, on one website - eBay. The warehouse then got IMMENSE pressure to lower and lower their prices until they went out of business.

    This happened over and over again and once the hype was recognized, we saw a HUGE dot come bubble burst.

    So that is why I stay away from people claiming to say they have a nice, shiny object to sell.

    You're much better going at it from a bottom-up approach.

    Study a niche, then do a product market worth, then research your deductions, negotiate pricing, THEN finalize a supplier.

    Not the other way around.

    When you rely on OTHERS to do your research FOR you, you're bound to get screwed. When you know more entering the negotiation, you always win.
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  • I was thinking today that it would be amazing if it was possible to just source products straight from the third-party individual Amazon sellers, and dropship that way. There's still enough margin on some products to make it well worth doing, but unfortunately as I thought might be the case, gift options are not available on purchases from sellers. I wish it was, because then we could just change the address for every order and it might not be suspect. In the case of returns, you could have just sent a message to the eBay customer to send it back to your own address, and absorb the occasional loss, which would be well worth it.

    Edit:

    I've been toying around with idea of sourcing from somewhere else (once I find out if they're reputable and do a test order), and dropshipping that way. However, I realized that my eBay listing would say the item ships from Tennessee, but when the customer got the item, they'd likely see the name of a different state on the shipping label.

    I seem to remember seeing some listings that weren't specific about the exact location the item shipped from. I tried deleting the info for my location for my eBay seller account, but it wouldn't let me. Anyone know if there's a way around this?
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  • Profile picture of the author ekimnotrab
    I have been thinking quite a ait about doing this, I really can't see any issues myself. I think I will start very small scale, maybe toss 5 products on for 30 days and see what happens. I'll let you all know.
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  • Ok, thanks ekimnotrab.

    The reason that I've been thinking about sourcing from third party Amazon sellers is that I was thinking about the box the item would be delivered in. Wouldn't it either have no branding, or have the branding of the seller? I can't remember how packages from sellers on Amazon look, but it should be similar to what you'd get if you bought from any individual seller on eBay.

    If so, there'd be a huge advantage to doing that, because the customer would probably assume the package was directly from you, since there wouldn't be any Amazon branding on the box.

    BUT, I don't know if they might include invoices that could reference Amazon and/or the fact that I was the one that purchased the item. If so, that would throw everything off!

    Does anyone have experience buying from sellers on Amazon?
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by Long Beach Nathan View Post

      Ok, thanks ekimnotrab.

      The reason that I've been thinking about sourcing from third party Amazon sellers is that I was thinking about the box the item would be delivered in. Wouldn't it either have no branding, or have the branding of the seller? I can't remember how packages from sellers on Amazon look, but it should be similar to what you'd get if you bought from any individual seller on eBay.

      If so, there'd be a huge advantage to doing that, because the customer would probably assume the package was directly from you, since there wouldn't be any Amazon branding on the box.

      BUT, I don't know if they might include invoices that could reference Amazon and/or the fact that I was the one that purchased the item. If so, that would throw everything off!

      Does anyone have experience buying from sellers on Amazon?

      If you buy a product from a 3rd party seller on Amazon it will have the persons Name and Address on the box. I have sold two products this way on Amazon. The box will not be an Amazon Brown box, but some one elses.

      I bought a product thru Amazon that came from a 3rd party supplier. It came with her name and information on a brown box.
      The other day a product sold on Ebay I was lisiting. The listing stated two of the same item. When I realized I was short one item, I went back to this supplier knowing her name would be on the box. Hope that helps to clarify this for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author bullfrog
    A word of warning:

    You cannot trust that individual sellers on Amazon will provide legitimate product to your ebay customers.

    If you "sell" something on eBay, then end up having an Amazon seller (FBA or otherwise) ship out the product for you and it turns out to be counterfeit ... you can be sued by the motion picture studios for contributory negligence.

    This happens all the time. Warner Brothers, in particular, is very diligent about chasing down sellers that "didn't know any better." Just search Google for "Warner Brothers sues Amazon sellers."

    I would not personally resell something that I was not 100% certain came from a legitimate source.
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  • Profile picture of the author ekimnotrab
    I am not going to list any DVD's mostly going for small appliances, electronics, and accessories.
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  • Just don't do it - it's not a legitimate system and it'll get your accounts suspended/banned once you're found out.

    It's better to have a long-lasting, self-sustaining business then it is to cut corners and go against terms of service and policies.

    Doing it for ridiculously low profit margins goes against common business sense as well.

    Read the Roger Langille posted earlier in this thread about the whole system.

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  • I think you're right. I've looked into the profit margins and they're incredibly bad. Anyone who does this would have an enormous amount of work ahead of them just to even find the products that had margins at all.

    I think I'll scrap this idea and continue to focus on Amazon Associates, product creation etc. Much more profitable.

    It would have been a fun source of extra profit though if things were different.
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    • Profile picture of the author xenfasa
      Originally Posted by Long Beach Nathan View Post

      I think you're right. I've looked into the profit margins and they're incredibly bad. Anyone who does this would have an enormous amount of work ahead of them just to even find the products that had margins at all.

      I think I'll scrap this idea and continue to focus on Amazon Associates, product creation etc. Much more profitable.

      It would have been a fun source of extra profit though if things were different.
      I would not give up so quick, a popular MLM promotes selling products on eBay and drop shipping from Amazon. They have over 17,000 members now I hear and that is their primary how-to product they pitch so it's working for a lot of people. Searching Youtube results in over 80,000 hits of people either using or promoting that MLM's how-to. I'm not in it the MLM myself but me and my friends basically use the same techniques for dropshipping.

      To see others doing it yourself, pick any Amazon or eBay product and search both websites, you will find LOTS of people selling Amazon products on eBay. Pay attention to the markted up prices and look at the number of items sold. Though number of items sold only shows when sellers provide a quantity of more than 1. Most people only list a quantity of one, so others will not know what they're selling lots of anyway.

      Another important point is this does not just work with Amazon. Walmart and Overstock are the next biggest suppliers for dropshipping for these types of eBay sellers.

      You'll hear some people say drop shipping from Amazon is against their TOS but that is not entirely true. It's against Amazon's TOS to use their Prime (free shipping) service which is for personal use, to drop ship hundreds or 1000s of products to other people. You do not need Prime anyway. Most of the products you want to sell anyway have Free shipping and are over $35. Anything less and there is no profit margin.

      I say all this because me and lots of my friends are doing this and have been doing it for a while... so much so that we created this tool here to help us monitor the Amazon prices which continually change.

      If you're doing this type of dropshipping this tool is essensial and currently free during the beta testing phase.

      http://DropShipToolbox.com

      If this eBay technique was not profitable, there would not be whole MLM businesses created around this concept nor would I have wasted so much time to create a program that helps us monitor price changes to make sure our eBay sales are always profitable.

      DropShipToolBox monitors prices changes, calculates your profit and lets you quickly know which of your eBay listings is no longer profitable. It currenly tracks product sources on from 8 domains. This is not just about just using Amazon to fulfill orders.

      Using this tool has helped one in my group narrow down a list of 1000 products that nets near $10,000/month, Another made about $2000 with 300 listings. The tool basically saves time and makes you more efficient.

      There are 1000s of people using this technique out there. Many keep quiet about it and others sell how-to products and tips on how to do it. But once you get the basics down. It's not so difficult.

      It's just sometimes tedious which is why we created the tool I just mentioned. Currently free as we're still testing and just started publicly allowing more beta testers to try it out.

      http://DropShipToolbox.com

      You can check it out but you will only find it useful if you already have active eBay listings as it automatically imports and updates your active eBay item details for matching with product source dropshippers. It's pretty slick and very useful to monitor your listings and profits. Many features that let you search, sort and create reports even.

      Don't give up so easy, eBay is one of the few real and basic ways of making a good online income.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    Just an update from my earlier post...

    I went through Roger's videos, but when I got to the one where he tells you to place your orders through a page where he has secretly embedded his affiliate link, I became skeptical. Then when he tells you to use a Prime account to get free shipping--something which is clearly a violation-- I lost trust in him.

    I still think you could potentially find items selling for more on eBay than Amazon, and you could legally use Amazon's free supersaver shipping if the item is more than $25. But I'm not convinced you can get plain brown box shipping in most cases. So if I were going to do this, I would just come out and tell the buyer that I use Amazon for fulfillment, so the item might come in an Amazon box. In fact, you could always list the same item at the higher price on Amazon, so it looks like you are selling at the same price in both places.

    Having said that, I have not actually done it. I spent some time looking around for items to try it on, and didn't come up with anything with a large enough difference to make it seem worth the trouble
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeDasCheap
    In all honesty guys, this is a very shady, and risky method. You are probably better off actually getting the items wholesale as mentioned below in my signature.

    We do have a few guys who we are dropshipping for and there is quite a bit to choose from. I say whatever you do, stay away from the consumer electronics, because there is slim pickins there..
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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by JoeDasCheap View Post

      In all honesty guys, this is a very shady, and risky method. You are probably better off actually getting the items wholesale as mentioned below in my signature.

      We do have a few guys who we are dropshipping for and there is quite a bit to choose from. I say whatever you do, stay away from the consumer electronics, because there is slim pickins there..
      Joe, admittedly I have not researched buying items wholesale to sell, and frankly that doesn't interest me for various reasons.

      But frankly, getting the items wholesale seems MUCH RISKIER to me, at least in terms of losing money. I mean, you are investing money and you could buy the wrong things that don't sell and then you're stuck with a whole garage full of whatchacallits, for example.

      As to your statement that "this is a very shady, and risky method" I'm not sure what's so shady about it. What is shady about offering an item for sale and drop shipping it from somewhere to their door? They knew the price, they bought it at that price, and they get it delivered at that price. Where is the harm or foul?

      The only shady thing I see about Roger Langille's presentation is that he recommends using Amazon Prime to ship the items and that IS clearly against Amazon Prime's TOS. This is the one thing that really bothers me about Roger's system and his trustworthiness. I have written to him about this and it will be interesting to see what he says.

      But that said, I don't see any problem with using this system of buying low, selling high and drop-shipping the products. To get around the Prime issue, just charge for the shipping and explain that shipping may take up to 14 business days on the ebay sales page.

      That's the way I see it anyway... not that I'm endorsing Roger's system. I don't know enough about it. But that's why I'm here - to get other opinions and I appreciate all comments even if I may disagree with them or find fault.
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      • Profile picture of the author carrielorentz
        Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

        Joe, admittedly I have not researched buying items wholesale to sell, and frankly that doesn't interest me for various reasons.

        But frankly, getting the items wholesale seems MUCH RISKIER to me, at least in terms of losing money. I mean, you are investing money and you could buy the wrong things that don't sell and then you're stuck with a whole garage full of whatchacallits, for example.

        As to your statement that "this is a very shady, and risky method" I'm not sure what's so shady about it. What is shady about offering an item for sale and drop shipping it from somewhere to their door? They knew the price, they bought it at that price, and they get it delivered at that price. Where is the harm or foul?

        The only shady thing I see about Roger Langille's presentation is that he recommends using Amazon Prime to ship the items and that IS clearly against Amazon Prime's TOS. This is the one thing that really bothers me about Roger's system and his trustworthiness. I have written to him about this and it will be interesting to see what he says.

        But that said, I don't see any problem with using this system of buying low, selling high and drop-shipping the products. To get around the Prime issue, just charge for the shipping and explain that shipping may take up to 14 business days on the ebay sales page.

        That's the way I see it anyway... not that I'm endorsing Roger's system. I don't know enough about it. But that's why I'm here - to get other opinions and I appreciate all comments even if I may disagree with them or find fault.

        Hi I am a member of Rogers program I just joined and have yet to list on ebay, I have hundreds of close facebook friends who have been making money for months with this. I have been through all the training and his live webinars and he specifically states DO NOT use Prime because Amazon does not like that and recommends using products over $35 so we can benefit from the FREE Super Saver shipping. It is very obvious when you search for products on Ebay that thousands of people are and have been doing this for years. You can easily recognize the Amazon copied pics with white backgrounds and most often the Amazon description is copied as well. Amazon also drop ships many of its products, it is how companies do business. There is nothing shady abut it. You mark it up 3 bucks from what Amazon sells it for you make 3 bucks for 4 minutes worth of work. It's no different than the sellers selling anything else on Amazon. Everyone is making money on a markup somewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    Does Amazon prime actually save you much? I am signed up but I have noticed numerous times that the shipping pricing is just included in the product price, IE, when looking at alternate sellers tab, often times the same product comes up by the same seller with a cheaper price w/ the shipping separated out. So is Prime worthwhile in reality?
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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by NewParadigm View Post

      Does Amazon prime actually save you much? I am signed up but I have noticed numerous times that the shipping pricing is just included in the product price, IE, when looking at alternate sellers tab, often times the same product comes up by the same seller with a cheaper price w/ the shipping separated out. So is Prime worthwhile in reality?
      Prime is totally worth it for me!
      I buy a lot of stuff via amazon, from tv's to books, to vitamins, misc. electronics and accessories, gifts, etc. Sometimes getting it quick makes a big difference to me, too; I tend to be an impatient person. ;-D And using it for last minute birthday gifts etc is worth it as well.

      Additionally you can get free kindle books if you have an amazon Kindle (my wife does), and you can get tons of free movies and tv shows on their Amazon Channel if you have a streaming device that carries Amazon - it seems most do.

      I love Amazon and their Prime service!
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  • Profile picture of the author Helkat
    This thread is why WF is great.

    I'm still fascinated by shiny things, it seems. I guess I'm learning though, something seemed fishy halfway through the webinar I was watching. Glad I checked here first.

    Thanks to everyone on here!

    The real genius in his plan is getting everyone to click through using his affiliate id...
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    • Originally Posted by Helkat View Post

      This thread is why WF is great.

      I'm still fascinated by shiny things, it seems. I guess I'm learning though, something seemed fishy halfway through the webinar I was watching. Glad I checked here first.

      Thanks to everyone on here!

      The real genius in his plan is getting everyone to click through using his affiliate id...
      You mean he might not practice what he preaches?

      Hm. I wonder why.

      That is one thing I pride myself in. I actually practice WHILE I preach.
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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by Helkat View Post

      This thread is why WF is great.

      I'm still fascinated by shiny things, it seems. I guess I'm learning though, something seemed fishy halfway through the webinar I was watching. Glad I checked here first.

      Thanks to everyone on here!

      The real genius in his plan is getting everyone to click through using his affiliate id...
      Helkat, I agree that the WF is great for researching vendors/ training/ systems/ products...

      And I agree that Roger's using his affiliate links is smart marketing. I don't see anything intrinsically wrong about it though, unless he doesn't TELL anyone it's an affiliate link. Amazon's TOS does say you have to tell people you profit from your links.

      However, all that said, I still don't see any definitive evidence here that the system doesn't work or that it's a scam. He does provide training - I saw the site he offers - he is a top seller on ebay, he does have a lot of experience in IM, and you know what? He sent me his phone number and invited me to call him to discuss his system even though I didn't even buy the basic system!

      So all in all, I can't say the system he is selling does not work. In fact some of my research on his system led me to posts saying it DOES work, if perhaps not creating a huge income, but some income anyway.

      I admit he has a bad rep on the web and I honestly don't know if he deserves it or not. I know at least one guy on youtube who was downing him had really flimsy reasons.
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    If only Amazon were not so strict!
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  • Profile picture of the author affguy89
    I honestly know nothing about amazon. But I was browsing around and came across something that made me think. However I don't think it's as simple as this guy explains it. Maybe I'm wrong. See for yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
      Originally Posted by affguy89 View Post

      I honestly know nothing about amazon. But I was browsing around and came across something that made me think. However I don't think it's as simple as this guy explains it. Maybe I'm wrong. See for yourself.
      Looked into this and it seems the guy does Amazon to Ebay arbitrage and makes tons of money. The concern some people on his blog had was how about the invoice Amazon puts in the box sent to the buyer. It contains the actual price he paid for the item, but he says "Almost no one looks at the invoice"!

      Worth a look see.
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      • Profile picture of the author marco005
        Hi,

        @cyberdog1; how you will find dropship suppliers who has some hundreds or thousands of
        cd/dvd's??????

        I have not seen a shop who has hundreds of blanks cd and dvd.

        Please correct me if I'm wrong.

        best wishes
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        • Profile picture of the author justlukeyou
          Hi,

          I found a number of YouTube which through using Amazon as a dropshipping supplier to ebay. The videos were very descriptive and explained in enough detail how to set this up.

          I became very interested a quickly found some good products which dont appear to be listed at all in ebay here the UK but have plenty of reviews on Amazon. But then the two points about the box and invoice inside the package emerged.

          Since this thread begain has anyone tried this process. Does it work?
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          • Profile picture of the author shaneburgess
            I came across this somewhere else and then came here to check if it was legitimate or not.

            I think it is legal and everyone is happy in the end.

            I decided to find items that I can have shipped to me first and then I will ship them to the customer. The profit margins are low but it was more of a "can I do this" type of thing.

            Well, I have seen why this might not be a good method.

            I first posted a few items that I was going to dropship from Amazon but decided that I didn't want to go that route so I would find things on Amazon that most people would not buy from Amazon. I sold a few of them but it seems that other sellers caught on and started selling them too and now Amazon is out of stock. If I sold a few more today, I could have been screwed.

            I found that other items are starting to come up as out of stock or have new higher prices as well and people are still selling them on ebay. These people are going to be sad when they find out that the price has gone up.

            Here is a good example:
            Amazon.com: George Foreman 100-Inch Removable...Amazon.com: George Foreman 100-Inch Removable...
            Find some for sale on ebay and you will see that they are being sold for less than Amazon is selling them now.

            I guess I will go the old fashioned route. I am a newbie so I have no idea what that is yet but I am sure it is not as fragile as this.
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    I don't see how you could earn enough doing fulfillment from Amazon to sell on Ebay. It would leave so little margin that there is a good chance that you would come out at a loss most of the time.

    Let's say you spend $10-$15 on a DVD. There is usually a lot of competition for the same items on Amazon, which forces the sale price down to a point in which you may be making $.50 in profit. If Amazon fulfills they will charge you a certain amount. Most sellers that have Amazon fulfillment end up selling at a higher price than sellers shipping themselves. This is to cover the cost of Amazon fulfillment. Now you may sell more overall with Amazon fulfillment due to being listed toward the top, which means by volume alone, you may be able to order larger quantities from the producers (manufacturers). If you are fortunate, you may be able to arrange a special deal with them to order at a cost even lower than what is listed on the producer price sheets.

    Most people will try to compare prices between Ebay and Amazon for the same products. By the time you factor in the upfront costs at Ebay, especially the Buy it Now price and possibly a reserve, then you would have very little profit, if any at all.

    The only way this would be consistently profitable is if you are getting the DVDs at an extraordinarily low cost AND others cannot get these DVDs at that cost or simply not at all.
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    • Originally Posted by tritrain View Post

      I don't see how you could earn enough doing fulfillment from Amazon to sell on Ebay. It would leave so little margin that there is a good chance that you would come out at a loss most of the time.

      Let's say you spend $10-$15 on a DVD. There is usually a lot of competition for the same items on Amazon, which forces the sale price down to a point in which you may be making $.50 in profit. If Amazon fulfills they will charge you a certain amount. Most sellers that have Amazon fulfillment end up selling at a higher price than sellers shipping themselves. This is to cover the cost of Amazon fulfillment. Now you may sell more overall with Amazon fulfillment due to being listed toward the top, which means by volume alone, you may be able to order larger quantities from the producers (manufacturers). If you are fortunate, you may be able to arrange a special deal with them to order at a cost even lower than what is listed on the producer price sheets.

      Most people will try to compare prices between Ebay and Amazon for the same products. By the time you factor in the upfront costs at Ebay, especially the Buy it Now price and possibly a reserve, then you would have very little profit, if any at all.

      The only way this would be consistently profitable is if you are getting the DVDs at an extraordinarily low cost AND others cannot get these DVDs at that cost or simply not at all.
      Although I agree that using Amazon for a fulfillment company on eBay is a HORRIBLE idea, (see my earlier posts on this)

      There are other deductions you're not taking into account -

      Also, make sure your cost to acquire is legitimate and not assumed. I know you're just making a point by 'picking numbers', but when you're finding fair market values, with costs to acquire, there are other deductions that have to be made to find a estimated profit/loss that go beyond what you're mentioning here.

      And again - there are no 'UPFRONT' costs.

      And there is no such thing as a 'reserve' price on a 'buy it now.'

      Plus, you should never do a reserve anyway to increase your views to actions ratio.

      Also, why would someone want to sell a DVD in the first place? I know you're just making an example, but DVD's shouldn't be sourced - unless there is a zero cost to acquire (meaning, it was acquired without purpose of selling for profit - like as a gift - or it was just around your home that you're looking to liquidate)

      But even still, selling a DVD on eBay does NOT look fun in a Paypal account, and it better just staying at home - or given away because after shipping, you're pretty much break even.

      Only sell items that are profitable and legal - and break-even or at a loss is NOT a good business strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author scottyhouge
    I have used Rogers new system,and it rocks
    I started pro,and now am in elite.It gives alot of othersources to use,and one is overstock.
    So if you do sell a product,and the product runs out of stock,you have more sources to go see if they got it,and still ship it.

    I looked over the thread,and alot of the problems I have seen posted have an answer to them in his new course.
    Over 4000 people have joined in just a little over a month.And we have actually got a skype room that people do q and a,and everyone is very happy
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  • Profile picture of the author andrewc5
    I use Amazon as my backup distributor... I don't think I would rely on it for the overall business, but if I do get a backorder many times I can fill it from Amazon or an Amazon FBA seller... and surprisingly not all the time, but sometimes it's cheaper than my cost...
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  • Profile picture of the author repricerexpress
    Using Amazon to fulfil your eBay orders under its Multi-channel Fulfilment service is obviously different from purchasing an item on Amazon to send as a gift to your eBay customer—the latter of which will obviously annoy your eBay customers if they think they could have simply bought the item on Amazon cheaper themselves.

    But it's perfectly fine and legal to use Amazon's Multi-channel Fulfilment service to ship your eBay orders to your eBay customers (in plain packaging of course).
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      This thread amazes me because it shows that huge numbers of people are interested in buying and selling for peanuts in profits.

      So few seem to be aware that for a very small outlay you can hold an inventory that allows you full control.

      Buying direct from the factory overseas is not an impossible dream even if you have very limited finance available. Small orders can be negotiated regardless of the huge MOQs that worry most people.

      Now here's the juicy bit......... Profit margins can be beyond your wildest dreams. This thread is all about buying low, selling high. Until you get quotes from genuine manufacturers you cannot imagine how low you can buy.

      Importers look at the pathetic margins made by dropship resellers and laugh all the way to the bank.
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        Actually having a good time using the dsd system
        People in our skype room and forum are posting excellent results
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      • Profile picture of the author wizbiz
        Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

        Buying direct from the factory overseas is not an impossible dream even if you have very limited finance available. Small orders can be negotiated regardless of the huge MOQs that worry most people.
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        I dunno, Maybe I'm leaving on different planet, but most of the product either on Amazon or Ebay even cheaper than Chinese manufactures selling them over Alibaba.
        Where is those mysterious sources??? Daily I'm searching through hundreds of Closeouts and wholesalers, ether they have junk which are not in demand or
        Their prices are higher than Amazon/Ebay. I say China dream is over
        After shipping and fees profit margin is 0%
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        • Profile picture of the author Importexport
          Originally Posted by wizbiz View Post

          I dunno, Maybe I'm leaving on different planet, but most of the product either on Amazon or Ebay even cheaper than Chinese manufactures selling them over Alibaba.
          Where is those mysterious sources??? Daily I'm searching through hundreds of Closeouts and wholesalers, ether they have junk which are not in demand or
          Their prices are higher than Amazon/Ebay. I say China dream is over
          After shipping and fees profit margin is 0%
          You are quite right about the prices for the simple reason that almost all of the suppliers listed on Alibaba are not manufacturers.

          Many of the traders, wholesalers, and middlemen listed on Alibaba and other popular sourcing sites are the very people who are selling on Amazon and eBay in direct competition with people like yourself, but they are not manufacturers.

          They are buying much cheaper than you can ever imagine, because they are buying direct from the real manufacturers.

          You ask the question: "Where is those mysterious sources???" and the answer is they can be found on the small number of sourcing sites that are safe to use, but they never get a mention on the forum. I list them in my book, but I don't publish them on any forum for very good reasons. It is not just because I want people to buy my book.

          For a lot of helpful information as well as reasons why I don't disclose them publicly you might like to have a look at this thread:

          If your secret B2B portals are so safe why don't you share?

          I repeat what I wrote in the post that you quoted; "Buying direct from the factory overseas is not an impossible dream even if you have very limited finance available. Small orders can be negotiated regardless of the huge MOQs that worry most people."

          All you have to do is go to genuine manufacturers to find prices that will not only make it possible for you to compete on Amazon and eBay, but you will find profit margins that can be mind boggling.



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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chandler
    I was doing this exact thing back in the spring, but I grew tired of the hassle of managing everything for really not a lot of profit in the end. It made some money yes, but there was a lot of competition & things weren't flying off the ebay shelves either. I decided to get away from it and I think it is for the best. I would go for private labeling products yourself & doing Amazon's FBA.
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by CChandler View Post

      I was doing this exact thing back in the spring, but I grew tired of the hassle of managing everything for really not a lot of profit in the end. It made some money yes, but there was a lot of competition & things weren't flying off the ebay shelves either. I decided to get away from it and I think it is for the best. I would go for private labeling products yourself & doing Amazon's FBA.
      The subject of Amazon/eBay arbitrage has been dealt with extensively in the thread Roger Langille? and that is where this thread belongs too, because it is just an extension of that subject, promoting the Roger Langille system.

      Numerous posts there stated that there was too much work and not enough profit in that system.

      Your idea of private labeling of products is one that has been proven over and over again to work very well. I have shown many people how to do it.

      Choose what product will sell readily and know what price you can sell for, as well as all your selling costs, then locate a manufacturer in China. Get them to add your own label or brand and you can then sell at big profits.

      Depending on product type it is possible to have your own brand/logo/label added to small quantities. Many, many manufacturers will do this for you, and if you choose the right product the private labeling can be very low cost.

      Note that I said "manufacturers". The huge number of traders listed as manufacturers on most of the popular sourcing sites won't look at private labeling except on big quantities, but the genuine factories will.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Chandler
        ImportExport,
        You are quite right. I tried it out for a month or so after seeing a product for sale (for the life of me I can't recall the name of it) that promoted the Amazon-to-Ebay arbitrage system. I did not buy the info product because it seemed easy enough at first glance, but once I got started, I saw how tedious it really was to list products (and keep an eye on their availability & pricing) and to get the products to the right customer It is not easy to ramp up (at least the way I was doing it), and looking back (as one of the posters above noted) it may have been borderline going-against the TOS of one of the sites. I stopped and really would not recommend it personally.

        I am just now exploring the idea of private labeling products for Amazon FBA, so I haven't done it yet. I would love to hear more from you on the subject of finding manufacturers. Do you use Alibaba very often?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Chandler
        Importexport
        Sorry... I just saw your post above on Alibaba. I was under the impression that Alibaba was the place to go to find products from China. I would like to know more about how to find the true source of products & to do so without huge outlay of cash (under $1K). Are you currently selling products on Amazon FBA?

        I see you have a book and may buy it when I am ready to go.

        Question, what products do you steer clear of from overseas? I would think that would obviously be health supplements, but is there any others that you would not touch with a 10-foot pole (so to speak)?
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        • Profile picture of the author Importexport
          Originally Posted by CChandler View Post

          Importexport
          Sorry... I just saw your post above on Alibaba. I was under the impression that Alibaba was the place to go to find products from China. I would like to know more about how to find the true source of products & to do so without huge outlay of cash (under $1K). Are you currently selling products on Amazon FBA?

          I see you have a book and may buy it when I am ready to go.

          Question, what products do you steer clear of from overseas? I would think that would obviously be health supplements, but is there any others that you would not touch with a 10-foot pole (so to speak)?
          Hi CChandler,

          I don't sell anything on eBay or Amazon. I am retired and the only thing I do now is help people enter the world of importing.

          Once you have decided what product/s to sell, it is easy to locate real manufacturers who will supply at genuine ex-factory prices. You can forget about the big Minimum Order Quantities (MOQs) that scare most people off direct importing. They are only there to deter newbies and small fry, but I teach how to get around that.

          The products that I would avoid are electronics and big brand names. Yes I agree about health supplements but I would also avoid food products and cosmetics.

          Quality is available from China but it reminds me of disciplining a child; you will only get what you demand from them.

          I avoid Alibaba and other popular sourcing sites because it is nearly impossible to know if you are dealing with real manufacturers, but there are several places that I recommend where you can find genuine manufacturers.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjshu99
    Ok after trying this for a week ( DS Domination ) I can tell you it is tedious and time consuming to find profitable products to sell. Sure you could probably make 2 or 3 dollars on an item but that is not worth the time involved. Most items I listed are about 6 to 7 dollar profit. This is after the fees that ebay hits you with. Plus if you sell in certain states you will get hit with taxes on the product sold.

    And as previously stated you cannot use Amazon prime to ship items you have sold. It is against amazons terms of service and you could have your account shut down. To get free shipping you have to list items that cost more than $35 on Amazon. The ds domination videos keep talking about items less than that, And you are assured that it is ok to use amazon prime for shipping. FALSE. In my experience the fees will keep you out of lots of items.

    Here is an example: Product X is sold on Amazon for $52.99 ( shipping would be free - great! ). You list it on ebay for $62.99. When it sells you will make $10 right? Nope. After fees you will profit $1.57. And if it is sold in 1 of the 12 states that charge taxes, that profit of $1.57 could turn into a loss of $3 or more. WTH?

    And There are LOTS of people doing this so there will be a lot of competition. It can be done and Im sure many people make a little money on ebay doing this. Hasnt worked for me yet. I have 15 items listed and NO sales. The gurus can show you how much you will make in these videos all day, but you do not make any money until you SELL your item.

    Proceed with caution my friends.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    Thanks for your account. That has been my experience as well.

    Like so many things in IM, 98% of the time you will make little to no money with a method. But if you work at it really hard, spend lots of time, and find just the right niche, you can make some decent money.

    Of course, it is easier to just create and sell a product on HOW to make money using this method
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel J
    I agree with many here that offering products that you don't OWN on Ebay and then buying from Amazon is really risky for a lot of reason (they could run out of stock, the price could go up, you could potentially get your account banned.) I do, however, use my FBA inventory to fulfill Ebay orders (products I own that are stored in Amazon's warehouses.) This is a great way to sell things without every having to touch them (the suppliers ship straight to Amazon or in some cases to my outsourcer who ships to Amazon). The only time I've ever used an Amazon listing (not mine) to fulfill an Ebay order is if I've run out of stock or made a quantity error. In that case, I'll write the buyer and give them the option of a refund or fulfilling their order through another seller explaining that I ran out of stock. This way the buyer is fully aware where the order is coming from and usually appreciates the extra effort- I've often done this at a loss, but customers will talk about this experience where the seller took a frustrating experience and "went the extra mile."
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    • Profile picture of the author scottyhouge
      The new price fluctuation software Hitesh is working on will be available right around x-mas time Nice deal.It will also let you keep track of earnings,as well as prices going up or down,amongst some other goodies in the software.The video from our last webby was great.And soon we will have our own products,as Roger is working on some other things for 2014 too.So it keeps getting better and better on my end here... Having a source through him will really explode things.Everyones excited
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      • Profile picture of the author scottyhouge
        Originally Posted by scottyhouge View Post

        The new price fluctuation software Hitesh is working on will be available right around x-mas time Nice deal.It will also let you keep track of earnings,as well as prices going up or down,amongst some other goodies in the software.The video from our last webby was great.And soon we will have our own products,as Roger is working on some other things for 2014 too.So it keeps getting better and better on my end here... Having a source through him will really explode things.Everyones excited
        Wow,
        Wow,
        The company webinar was awsome tonight.We will have everythin above implimented by the 15th of this month.Everything listed
        And another webby for members in case u missed it,at 8pm eastern.

        I recorded it as well.awsome stuff goin on.
        85,000 products to be released end of january in your back office of dsd for drop shipings if you want to use them instead of amazon as well.
        And this is just the beginning..
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  • Profile picture of the author aaaa33030
    I don't see why one would have to buy a course on how to buy from one company and sell on another marketplace for a profit.
    It should be common sense.
    I've been doing it for years.

    And this can be done for any marketplace not just ebay.

    You can also buy from ebay and resell it on amazon.
    It goes both ways.

    There are tons of seller marketplaces out there and you can buy from one store and sell it on your preferred marketplace for a profit, much link a link pyramid
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  • Profile picture of the author BradVert2013
    I sell on ebay and I looked into doing the Amazon-Ebay thing. But honestly, it's just not worth it. I'd spend hours finding the right products to sell, complete the transaction for the buyer and hope they don't get mad their item came from Amazon - only for a few dollars profit. That's less than minimum wage for taking a big risk and potentially getting bad DSRs on Ebay.

    I'd rather source my own products, keep my own inventory, markup the items that will generate a healthy profit and control every part of the transaction. I'm happy, the customer is happy, everyone wins.
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by BradVert2013 View Post

      I sell on ebay and I looked into doing the Amazon-Ebay thing. But honestly, it's just not worth it. I'd spend hours finding the right products to sell, complete the transaction for the buyer and hope they don't get mad their item came from Amazon - only for a few dollars profit. That's less than minimum wage for taking a big risk and potentially getting bad DSRs on Ebay.

      I'd rather source my own products, keep my own inventory, markup the items that will generate a healthy profit and control every part of the transaction. I'm happy, the customer is happy, everyone wins.
      @BradVert, Congratulations on thinking for yourself instead of following the crowd.

      Time is money, and regardless of the numbers occasionally quoted, unless someone can make substantial dollars per hour, they are slaves to their business.

      I taught my franchisees in my franchise Operations Manual, instructions not to chase any orders that would not give them at least $150 per hour. The result was that the average income generated by each franchisee after they were established was 4 times the national average wage in 3 of the 4 countries where my importing business operated. It was just over 3 times the national average wage in the other one.
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  • Profile picture of the author UnkwnUsr
    I've tried this before with used textbooks at most you'll will be making a few dollars per transaction. If something goes wrong with the order or the buyer asks for a refund you'll be out of luck and see your eBay feedback plummet. I made the added mistake of trying it with used books from third party sellers. Turns out a few of them were drop shippers as well and when it came time to ship they canceled saying "the item was not available".
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  • Profile picture of the author alisonxanderson
    why amazon letting its competitor to use their stocks? are they have strategy to make their rivals to depend on them and avoid to build their own strength.
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  • Profile picture of the author amanda0731
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/te...anted=all&_r=0

    Just refreshing a super old thread since there are more people trying to show you how to do this lately.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcintermed
    That article is 7 years old
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    • Profile picture of the author scotti
      hi everyone, I found French companies buying products on amazon when the customer orders them (and pay naturally more than the original price) on a marketplace as cdiscount.com, ebay or priceminister.com or fnac.fr, these companies are ZOOMICI and Asdiscount, the second one with only 12 persons has made more than 12 million euros sales last year with 377000 euros benefit!! what is surprising is that despite the packets with the logo amazon on it (and no bill in it) they don't have so much negative feedbacks, on the contrary they have more good feedbacks, some angry customers noticed the deception by visiting amazon.com to find the original price of their purchase, I tested purchases with these companies and actually packages come from amazon where prices are of course much less expensive.
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      • Originally Posted by scotti View Post

        hi everyone, I found French companies buying products on amazon when the customer orders them (and pay naturally more than the original price) on a marketplace as cdiscount.com, ebay or priceminister.com or fnac.fr, these companies are ZOOMICI and Asdiscount, the second one with only 12 persons has made more than 12 million euros sales last year with 377000 euros benefit!! what is surprising is that despite the packets with the logo amazon on it (and no bill in it) they don't have so much negative feedbacks, on the contrary they have more good feedbacks, some angry customers noticed the deception by visiting amazon.com to find the original price of their purchase, I tested purchases with these companies and actually packages come from amazon where prices are of course much less expensive.
        Right,

        That's the point we're making.

        The vast majority of people don't notice, but the few that do, are mad at it.

        You get negative feedback, low DSR's, and that kills your TRS status/ranking/discount.

        Additionally, that hurts your bottom line, it hurts your business, and, in the long run, it hurts your reputation....

        Oh, and then there is the whole - against the TOS thing..
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  • Profile picture of the author Greatstuff365
    Hasn't anyone thought of the most obvious thing? If Amazon Sellers send out items .. MOST of them will have included a receipt sales slip inside the package with the correct AMAZON price on it? How are you going to explain this to your Ebay Customer who has just paid you ..say £10 more than the actual price showing as having been sold for?
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    • Profile picture of the author joey28
      Originally Posted by Greatstuff365 View Post

      Hasn't anyone thought of the most obvious thing? If Amazon Sellers send out items .. MOST of them will have included a receipt sales slip inside the package with the correct AMAZON price on it? How are you going to explain this to your Ebay Customer who has just paid you ..say £10 more than the actual price showing as having been sold for?

      when you buy it from amazon you send it as a gift so they wont know the price
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    As an FBA seller I can see a big problem because the pricing and availability of a product on Amazon can change overnight. By the time you sell something on ebay it may no longer be available from Amazon at the price you want, so your margin is gone.
    Weekly I do the opposite. I buy items on ebay and sell on Amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by scotti View Post

      these companies are ___&____, the second 12 million euros sales last year with 377000 euros benefit!! what is surprising is that despite the packets with the logo amazon on it (and no bill in it) they don't have so .
      Hmmmm

      Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post

      Right, Oh, and then there is the whole - against the TOS thing..
      Yep and it was not smart to name the company's on a public forum. When they get banned from Amazon the euros benefit wills be gone !

      Than they will be here asking why was my Amazon Account banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author jujame
    In a financial marketplace that too heavily relies on leverage, I prefer to make sure I have cash in abundance so investments are stress free and don't require micro management.
    As you can see, I use the same low risk spread strategy for my banking
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  • Profile picture of the author gokulmaba
    Selling stuffs on both Amazon and Ebay is risky.
    And they are really huge company that they won't just sell those stuffs online, they must have stocks dude.
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  • Originally Posted by Cyberdog1 View Post

    After selling a lot of my own stuff on eBay I done some research on the guys who were selling more than me in the DVD area for example and noticed this on some of their listings:

    "Some of our products will be shipped from Amazon as we hold stock at their fulfillment centre"


    That's fine I thought as this is perfectly acceptable but I then thought -

    What if they didn't have their own stock there and were actually just using Amazon as the biggest dropship/supply company in the Country?

    So I looked into it and a few of the sellers were selling around 2000-3000 products per month all shipped from Amazon amongst other places. I ordered one Cheap DVD and it did come Direct from Amazon with the message that 'seller' was sending it as a gift to me.

    The prices of almost all the DVDs sold are around less than $1.50 cheaper on Amazon and so by using the free Delivery service also and charging for delivery on eBay, after fees they are probably making $1-$2 per item sold.

    Not much you say and it would take a good few hours a day to admin all that but as a full time job you would be making around $2000 per month.

    Now if you are using the same Credit Card on Amazon to purchase the stock and have delivered to different customers than surely the benefits of spending over $20,000 per year on one card would be huge wouldn't they?

    I know eBay allow dropshippers but Amazon are a bit sketchy in their T&Cs. The Bottom Line is this - Is This Legal?
    Yes this can be done. They must be using any other seller on Amazon to get your order.
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  • Profile picture of the author halfmoonbear
    I don't like this idea. Best way to avoid Hassel is to avoid eBay and shop on amazon or stick with the small sellers.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattylarocha
    I would like to give my input because I see a lot of misinformation going around here or at least not much clarity in the responses that people are giving.

    1. Reselling does indeed violate the terms of service of your amazon prime account. So to do this you wouldn't want an amazon prime account. You can buy items as a normal user, just be sure that you buys items that are at least $35 to get free shipping from amazon so you don't have to charge shipping to your ebay customer. If you have to pay for shipping with amazon, then you would charge your ebay customer shipping. It's your choice. You can find some items less than $35 that have free shipping but they will be sold and shipped from private sellers on amazon or fullfilled by amazon.

    2. All orders sold and shipped by amazon will be in an amazon box. Any site that says click this link to go to amazon and they will ship in a plain box is a scam. Your item will indeed arrive in an amazon box and the scammer gets a commission because you went to amazon through his affiliate link. If you buy from a private seller on amazon, then contact them to see if they can ship in a plain box, they may. But the reality is , and contrary to what people are saying here, is that most customers really don't care about the box. I know it's hard to believe but it's true. Most people are happy to get their package and are more concerned with the item inside the box, not the box. The box gets torn open and then thrown out. But you will definately want to check the box that says send as a gift so there will not be a packing slip with the price that you paid on it. If someone is really the type of person to see an amazon box and then go look the item up to see the amazon price, they would have gone to amazon and compared prices before buying from you on ebay in the first place. Most people are not as frugal as we are. And we are frugal and sceptical because we are on this forum doing research on dropshipping. If most people wanted to start dropshipping, most people wouldn't be here researching it to see if it really works or not, they would just try it. That's what most people do.

    3. Concerning Roger Langille: I went through his training and found it valuable. The key is to join, go through it as fast as you can and then get out. Once you know how to do this, you don't need him anymore. The best way is to get a greendot card and use that, so you don't have to go through the cancelling process when you want to get out, you just don't add anymore money to the card and throw it away. He was not doing his plain brown box scam at that time, but he is now and you should know that it is a scam. Please understand that all people are greedy, i don't care what anyone says. If you're dream is to earn 6 figures now, once you accomplish this, you will want more. No matter how much wealth you have, you always want more. You can do this without scamming people, or you can do it by scamming people, that's up to you. Just because Roger is scammish, doesn't mean that this business is a scam. You won't make a million dollars doing this, but you will be able to quit your job and make 6 figures on your own. What you decide to do after that is your choice. I reccommend getting out of drop shipping once you make enough to buy from alibaba in bulk, and use amazon FBA.

    4. Lastly, the most important part is you have to realize that you need lots of money to start earning a living at this. At least $15,000. Think about how much you want to earn, say $500 a week would be enough so that you could fire your current boss. At $3 profit per sale you would have to sell 166 items a week. Don't worry about making the sales, if you create enough listings, you will get the sales no problem. The problem is that even if all your items cost $35, that's $5833 you would need to front to amazon in a week. Now, consider that paypal will hold your ebay sales money 18 days, you would need 3 weeks worth of capital to keep yourself going until paypal releases your money so that you could roll it over and buy more items on amazon. What would be better is if you have a credit card with a $15,000 limit or multiple cards that would add up to that amount. You wouldn't need any money, and paypal would release your funds before the due date on your credit card bill, so that would be the ideal way to do it. Once you get going, paypal will even issue you a line of credit which is awesome. If you don't have money, or good credit, then you will have to find a partner who does. There really is no way around this. Starting will less and trying grow it will not work, it will take years. Minimum $15,000 is needed to start.
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  • Profile picture of the author greenowl123
    I just came across this thread and wanted to say to Mattylarocha :

    You made some very insightful comments which I had not thought of before.

    Do you offer training or coaching ?
    Thanks !
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny221
    Best way is to choose a website, or a single company that can do this.
    It is risky to deal with individuals from ebay or amazon.

    I found a gret dropshipper that have a great price and a lot of profit margin for me.

    Find yours.
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  • I use Amazon to source items, but I price my items high enough to be able to get the item sent to me and then pay for sending the item myself, so it is not sent to my buyer from Amazon it is sent from me, so technically dropshipping as such as I physically handle the item myself
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