Is WorldWide Brands worth the $299 membership fee?

Profile picture of the author thebeat42 by thebeat42 Posted: 02/07/2013
I am a web and graphic designer that freelances through my design agency, and I am looking at ways for generating some passive income. I have decided to look into setting up and automating some online stores that use dropshipping, as I want this to be as automated as possible. As I am well versed in web design, branding, marketing, etc, I feel like if I can get a number of these stores up and automated it could make for some nice passive income when I have downtime from my agency.

Currently, I am in the research phase and am just wondering about some of dropshipping/wholesale directories, and what ones are generally looked upon favourably and what ones are not. Being in Canada, I'm hoping to find some quality Canadian dropshippers, and WWB seems to be one of the main ones that offer Canadian hubs.

Is the $299 fee worth the membership, or are there better/cheaper alternatives? I'm interested in hearing some experiences with these guys and also maybe hearing some of the alternatives that I could look into.

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author nyjayla
    nyjayla
    I would like an answere to that question as well.

    Also, their is another WSO that you can search and have a look at it. Its a blue print of sorts for doing just what your doing... Search "The Four Hour Millionaires"...
  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    lotsofsnow
    It is actually much better to do some research and then contact companies directly.

    WorldWide Brands gets recommended a lot because they pay a nice commission. From their affiliate page:
    How much can you earn?

    For every single sale, generated through your unique affiliate id, we will pay you 25% of the price of a Worldwide Brands Membership!

    So you could earn up to $74.75 for just making one sale!

    You can make even more money recommending the Affiliate Program. Our 2nd Tier Affiliate program pays you 10% of every sale generated by Affiliates who have joined through your unique affiliate link!
    Here is one thing I can tell you from experience:
    If you go in communication with a manufacturer they are very often more than happy to dropship for you. Most of the time they do not bother to list this.


    HP
  • Profile picture of the author thebeat42
    thebeat42
    Yeah in the additional research I did after making the thread, I would have to agree with you.
  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    redlegrich
    All of these sites, programs, memberships and so forth suffer under the same problem. All the members get the same access, so how do YOU make money if everyone is on the same cost structure? Well, most just lower their price to next to nothing margin. That's no way to run a business.

    Take your $300 and save it. As other posters suggest, find a market segment, look for manufacturers and find some who will drop ship. You will likely get better pricing and won't have as much competition. Better yet, find an offshore manufacturer and import it. Only then will you really be able to make money! As they say in the eBay world, you make your money when you BUY, not SELL (meaning, get low cost product and make money).
  • Profile picture of the author festi9
    festi9
    Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post
    It is actually much better to do some research and then contact companies directly.

    WorldWide Brands gets recommended a lot because they pay a nice commission. From their affiliate page:
    How much can you earn?

    For every single sale, generated through your unique affiliate id, we will pay you 25% of the price of a Worldwide Brands Membership!

    So you could earn up to $74.75 for just making one sale!

    You can make even more money recommending the Affiliate Program. Our 2nd Tier Affiliate program pays you 10% of every sale generated by Affiliates who have joined through your unique affiliate link!
    Here is one thing I can tell you from experience:
    If you go in communication with a manufacturer they are very often more than happy to dropship for you. Most of the time they do not bother to list this.


    HP
    200% truly said.

    I also suggest to contact manufacturer directly this is because you get products at cheap rates and they are often happy to dropship for you under your name.The only thing they are looking for is the sales of their product anyhow
  • Profile picture of the author GlobalTrader
    GlobalTrader
    Although I am both a lifetime member and affiliate of Worldwide Brands, you will not find an affiliate link within this post.

    I simply wish to post my thoughts about some of the comments made above and why a WWB membership may or may not be for you.

    In regards to the high affiliate payout, since when is there something wrong with being paid to recommend a good service? That is what most of the commentors are doing on a daily basis, if they are involved in affiliate marketing.

    As to the $299 price - I do not wish to turn this into a sales pitch but I would strongly suggest that you take a long look around WWB's website and first, without spending any money you will find they are a very valuable resource to help you learn what works and what doesn't in the world of dropshipping. If you cannot find value in the free stuff they have posted there then you probably should not buy a membership.

    I have known the owner almost from the time he started the business when the directory used to be available on a CD Rom disk. My business was presented with many directories to review in the hope we would offer it among the other B2B resources we offered at the time.

    I always did a test of the directories to see how valid the listings were - all but WWB's failed terribly -- I tested 25 listings out of the WWB disk at the time and ALL tested as being current and valid.

    WWB is also an eBay certified solutions provider, something that most, if not all other similar directories out there cannot say about their services.

    To everyone stating that you should just call manufacturers and you will find them waiting with baited breath to work with you - here again, what is your time worth??

    WWB offers a directory of suppliers that have been vetted and who have to abide by certain rules WWB dictates in order to stay posted within their database - a database which is updated on a regular basis with new suppliers.

    Yes, you can find companies that will dropship for you, but again what is your time worth and if there is enough value in having new suppliers vetted for you on a regular basis, then there is value in the $299 one-time membership fee - remember it is one time.

    In addition to the database of dropship and light bulk suppliers they also have many other resources that help you determine if an item is worthwhile selling, as well as other resources that you can see for yourself.

    In closing my comments, I would simply again re-emphasize the value of their site, whether you purchase a membership or not - use it in your research, it will be of great assistance to you. Then decide if you wish to use your time researching various manufacturers, then calling those manufacturers, and doing everything that WWB has already done for you, then by all means skip buying a membership, but remember time is money!
  • Profile picture of the author Paul Marcoux
    Paul Marcoux
    yes, buy it
  • Profile picture of the author Importexport
    Importexport
    Originally Posted by redlegrich View Post
    All of these sites, programs, memberships and so forth suffer under the same problem. All the members get the same access, so how do YOU make money if everyone is on the same cost structure? Well, most just lower their price to next to nothing margin. That's no way to run a business.

    Take your $300 and save it. As other posters suggest, find a market segment, look for manufacturers and find some who will drop ship. You will likely get better pricing and won't have as much competition. Better yet, find an offshore manufacturer and import it. Only then will you really be able to make money! As they say in the eBay world, you make your money when you BUY, not SELL (meaning, get low cost product and make money).
    redlegrich knows what he is talking about. Not only do you pay $299 for the privilege of becoming a customer, but you get nothing exclusive, you simply join the crowds all trying to sell the same products and competing on price alone.

    If you do some original thinking you will see that the advice given by redlegrich to find an offshore manufacturer and import the product is when you can really be able to make money. Just ask yourself: "Where do the wholesalers buy from?" Answer: From the manufacturers. "Where do dropshippers buy their products from?" Same answer.

    But importing is horribly complex and requires lots of capital doesn't it? NO! That is what the wholesalers (and other importers) want you to think. I have shown in my book that it is ridiculously easy to import, and you can buy direct in small quantities if you want to.

    I just wish I could charge $299 for my book instead of the $50 that I now get paid. Yes, it does help people to quickly and safely find reliable suppliers. It does show where to locate absolutely any product you could imagine and many that you would never think of otherwise. What it does not do is limit your choices.
  • Profile picture of the author kpurnell
    kpurnell
    Thank you, that's good information that makes sense.
  • Profile picture of the author Julia Russo
    Julia Russo
    I just got an email from World Wide Brands in response to a product analysis that was off the chart--they checked it out, re-analyzed it for me and explained the entire process of demand, competition and sellability with some great insights. And all within the same afternoon.
    I have been a member for over 4 years and use it very often when I get an idea to brainstorm. Their analysis tool helped me dump some bad ideas and found sources of drop shippers for the good ones.
    You can spend much more than the membership price on time wasted looking on your own or you can have the suppliers at your fingertips. Best thing is, there is never any other fees!
    My suggestion is to ask those who are members if it is worth it than to have speculation from those who have never owned/used it before.
  • Profile picture of the author Importexport
    Importexport
    Originally Posted by Julia Russo View Post
    You can spend much more than the membership price on time wasted looking on your own or you can have the suppliers at your fingertips. Best thing is, there is never any other fees!
    .
    I agree with Julia about the potential for time being wasted. If you just start searching the Internet not only will it take many hours of wasted time, but you will probably not have any assurance that you are dealing with the actual manufacturer or that it is a reliable business.

    However, if you have proper guidance as outlined in my book you can go straight to the handful of sites that I know from 22 years experience can provide access to multitudes of reliable suppliers who are the real manufacturers, and you can find virtually any product you could ever dream of. You are not limited to the same product range that you will see over and over again on places like eBay, where you will have to cut margins to the bone to compete.

    Direct importing in small or large volume is ridiculously easy when you know how and I can show you how. There is no need to learn the rules and regulations.

    P.S. There are two product sourcing sites with identical names, except that one of them is hyphenated. One site is completely safe, but the other is not. How will you know the difference? There is another site that is advertising heavily, and as a result people believe it must be OK, but I would warn against using it. How do you know which ones to trust?
  • Profile picture of the author Auctiondebteliminator
    Auctiondebteliminator
    Buying into a product where they 'do the research for you' is never a good idea.

    They are NO experts. Especially since the markets move all of the time.

    Let me illustrate this point with a personal story I'm sure I've told before.

    I remember when I was in college I was roommates with a fellow that was really smart in his department. Worked for a professor in research, was on scholarship, etc. So it was no surprise when he got a cushy job working for a huge stock brokerage firm.

    Then one day we were talking and he said HEY! You should check out THIS stock... It's AWESOME. I just bought xxxxx number of shares - and you should buy into it as well. I mean, I'VE DONE A TON OF RESEARCH ON IT and it is going to do AWESOME.

    So what did I do?

    I bought it. A lot of it. After all, he was smart - and did ALL OF THE RESEARCH FOR ME.

    Years later, and being stubborn, It was the biggest dog in my portfolio, losing 90 percent of it's worth.

    Dumb.

    It would have been better for me to DO THE RESEARCH MYSELF and EDUCATE MYSELF on the company, the markets, the valuation, etc.

    Being suckered in by promises of how much you WILL make is a red flag.

    This one is my favorite:

    "This is a product, and this is how much it WILL sell for!" (Then they quote an MSRP)

    I roll my eyes so hard it gives me headaches for weeks.

    Is it worth it?

    Not a shaved-naked Weiner-dog's chance in Antarctica.
  • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
    Enfusia
    Just Google "Alibaba"
    They are a HUGE wholesale connection company. You will be put in contact with over 2 million suppliers in a nanosecond (ok, maybe 2 or 3 full seconds, but you get the point).

    Then you can sell on Amazon and use Amazons fulfillment service and bank.

    I know, I should flesh that out into 7 pages and sell it as a wso. But oh well.

    Patrick
  • Profile picture of the author ryshark
    ryshark
    I agree with Julia; ask those who are actually members if it is worth it or not. It's not the be all and end all but it is a great tool, as long as you know it is only a tool, and treat it as such, it is worth it. And yes I do have a membership.
  • Profile picture of the author Importexport
    Importexport
    Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post
    Just Google "Alibaba"
    They are a HUGE wholesale connection company. You will be put in contact with over 2 million suppliers in a nanosecond (ok, maybe 2 or 3 full seconds, but you get the point).

    Then you can sell on Amazon and use Amazons fulfillment service and bank.

    I know, I should flesh that out into 7 pages and sell it as a wso. But oh well.

    Patrick
    Why not try them and see for yourselves. After reading this post I looked up Alibaba and searched for leather jackets. The second VERIFIED supplier I looked at had some nice looking ladies' leather jackets at a very good price.

    Then I read the fine print. They are NOT LEATHER. They are "PU Leather." For those who don't know much about leather, PU is polyurethane. It is plastic, not leather. In the EU, USA, Canada, Australia, and many other countries, if you dared advertise such products as leather you would be in big trouble.

    The point is that you must do your research, whatever product you want to buy and sell, and you must research the seller also. There are simple ways to do your own verification, but that is another story.

    There was one small matter missing from Patrick's post. It is the gap between finding the supplier on Alibaba, and selling on Amazon. I am frequently helping out people who have started the buying process without knowing what to do next, so I teach them how easy it is to handle the importing process. Sometimes they turn to me too late and they have incurred huge unnecessary costs.

    Just one more thing - when you search on places like Alibaba, how do you know if you are dealing direct with the manufacturer or with a wholesaler who has added a margin to the manufacturer's price? In my 22 years as an importer I have only ever dealt direct with the manufacturer and that is where the big profits are.
  • Profile picture of the author Auctiondebteliminator
    Auctiondebteliminator
    You mean to tell me that if I contact a supplier and ask them if their item is 'Authentic' and they tell me it is --- they could be lying?

    And you mean to tell me that I can contact someone who is a 'verified' supplier and they can be terrible?

    You mean to tell me that people can tell me to buy their products and I can be profitable because they have 'done all the research for me?


    Man........... Looks like we should actually know what we're talking about before we contact suppliers --- including pricing, markets, authenticity, etc...

    Who woulda thunk?
  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    Ross Petal
    In the UK, we have esources dot co.uk and it's more or less the same as WorldWide Brands. Unfortunately from what I've heard from friends who are members of both, you could easily find the list of suppliers/wholesalers yourself by searching on Google. The market research tools within the members areas are a joke, either not working or giving out wrong information. When you send out messages to the suppliers, you are very unlikely to hear from them and if your lucky to get a response, the wholesale prices are cheaper elsewhere. The members area look great and the sales pages for both companies are powerful but once your in, it goes horribly wrong.

    My advice is to do your research to find products to source from Google and local wholesalers in your area.
  • Profile picture of the author Auctiondebteliminator
    Auctiondebteliminator
    That goes for suppliers who are 'Authorized eBay dealers' and try to sell you that they are great to work with on eBay as well.

    That just basically means that they paid a fee to eBay to say that.

    They have no other qualifications that state they're good.

    I prefer to have a good, positive, FREE business relationship with a supplier.

    In fact, I send mine a Christmas cards every year, and my best ones do the same. (Actually, my best supplier sends me a Hanukkah card)

    That is the level of cordiality you have with a supplier. It's not a 'who are you?' relationship.
  • Profile picture of the author Importexport
    Importexport
    Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post
    You mean to tell me that if I contact a supplier and ask them if their item is 'Authentic' and they tell me it is --- they could be lying?

    And you mean to tell me that I can contact someone who is a 'verified' supplier and they can be terrible?

    You mean to tell me that people can tell me to buy their products and I can be profitable because they have 'done all the research for me?


    Man........... Looks like we should actually know what we're talking about before we contact suppliers --- including pricing, markets, authenticity, etc...

    Who woulda thunk?
    I like your humor. Thanks for your satirical reinforcement of what I and others have said about the need for research.

    The sad fact is that there are so many people out there who should not be trying to run their own business.

    You know, I have recently had to tell one would-be importer to cut his losses and let the supplier keep the merchandise and the money, because the freight cost would have sent him broke. And that was using the cheapest possible freight method.

    It was an expensive lesson. There was no way the supplier would have given even a partial refund.

    At least anyone reading this thread should by now have got the message that research is the critical first step.
  • Profile picture of the author Importexport
    Importexport
    Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post
    That goes for suppliers who are 'Authorized eBay dealers' and try to sell you that they are great to work with on eBay as well.

    That just basically means that they paid a fee to eBay to say that.

    They have no other qualifications that state they're good.

    I prefer to have a good, positive, FREE business relationship with a supplier.

    In fact, I send mine a Christmas cards every year, and my best ones do the same. (Actually, my best supplier sends me a Hanukkah card)

    That is the level of cordiality you have with a supplier. It's not a 'who are you?' relationship.
    Excellent point!

    Although I am now retired I still get cards from several of my former suppliers. If one of my frequent visits to China coincided with the birth of a baby for one of the staff members I would take along a small gift for her. From memory I think that happened with three suppliers. (22 years is a long time to remember it all.)

    Relationships mean lot in any ongoing business, but especially in China.

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