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I'm interested in importing some products from China. Anybody have experience in this market?
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  • Profile picture of the author alksense
    Originally Posted by jocosity View Post

    I'm interested in importing some products from China. Anybody have experience in this market?
    I've brought in over 20 40' containers from the China to the US (to NY, NJ and CA). I can help answer questions or provide you with my customs brokers info if you're interested.

    - Anton
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    Very broad question, but yes.
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  • Yup! I think a lot of us have, as well as a Warrior named ImportExport - I know he has over 2 decades in it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post

      Yup! I think a lot of us have, as well as a Warrior named ImportExport - I know he has over 2 decades in it.

      We're all here for you.
      Yes I have been importing for 22 years, (now retired) and I have experience in large and small orders.

      My first word of advice is to ensure that you do all of your research even before you buy any samples.

      You need to know your product thoroughly, including how you will sell it, how much you can sell it for, what your selling costs are including eBay selling charges and your delivery charges etc. Then you can start looking for suppliers, getting quotes including all freight costs so that you can work out landed cost and if the final figure including absolutely every input cost is too high, negotiate a better deal.

      One very simple trick of the trade you will find in my book is how to be certain that you are getting the best price, and how to do it without haggling.

      People think Chinese suppliers love haggling, but they hate it. Don't haggle.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joshua Young
        I am just getting starting in an import business...
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        • Profile picture of the author Importexport
          Originally Posted by jhyoung628 View Post

          I am just getting starting in an import business...
          Hi jhyoung,

          Sorry I missed your post.

          Do you have any questions/ I will do my best to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author mistauzz
    Hi Importexport, I really want to start an ecommerce business and want to know what is THE criteria for finding a profitable market/product? Do you look at what's not selling locally (nationally) ? or look at high ticket items and therefore margins as a way of selecting a product...or both and what else?

    I know a few really successful ecommerce business owners who are doing around minimum 10k a month on ebay and don't answer such generic questions...yes it took them time to get it to that level but it was the right start and the right product which got them there as they're still selling the same thing for over 9 years for example high ticket items like jacuzzi's.

    what's the best way to find products/markets which you can build a sustainable/scalable business in? and the way to source such products initially before you can go and see the quality of it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Hi mistauzz,

      I am not the right person to advise on choosing a product because I am not an eBay, Amazon, etc. marketer.

      I suggest you contact Auctiondebteliminator. His post appears in this thread You could click on his signature and PM him.

      Once you have worked out what product/s to sell and how to sell them, I can certainly help you with safe sourcing and easy importing.
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      • Profile picture of the author mistauzz
        Originally Posted by Importexport View Post

        Hi mistauzz,

        I am not the right person to advise on choosing a product because I am not an eBay, Amazon, etc. marketer.

        I suggest you contact Auctiondebteliminator. His post appears in this thread You could click on his signature and PM him.

        Once you have worked out what product/s to sell and how to sell them, I can certainly help you with safe sourcing and easy importing.
        Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it. I was not assuming that you were an internet marketer or on ebay etc. Obviously when "you" yourself do import products from other countries you must/do have a reason for getting "that" product? be it a gap in the market, margins, etc what is the behind the scenes homework for a product before importing it so you know it will be profitable and successful? That is what I was trying to find out.

        I could well go on and sell it offline aswell rather than online if you were assuming it was strictly for ebay, amazon etc...or do you import products for "clients" and not necessarily yourself? (that bit I am assuming after your reply)
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        • Profile picture of the author Importexport
          Originally Posted by mistauzz View Post

          Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it. I was not assuming that you were an internet marketer or on ebay etc. Obviously when "you" yourself do import products from other countries you must/do have a reason for getting "that" product? be it a gap in the market, margins, etc what is the behind the scenes homework for a product before importing it so you know it will be profitable and successful? That is what I was trying to find out.

          I could well go on and sell it offline aswell rather than online if you were assuming it was strictly for ebay, amazon etc...or do you import products for "clients" and not necessarily yourself? (that bit I am assuming after your reply)
          Hi mistauzz,

          What I do is teach people how to safely locate the products of their choice at lowest possible prices. I don't import any products either for myself or others. I am retired due to health reasons. For 22 years I ran an importing business which I franchised in 4 countries, and all the products were sold offline.

          Unfortunately I can't tell you what the products were or the market sector because that would not be fair to my former franchisees who are still trading.

          There were 2 main criteria for choosing products.
          1. Strong demand with ineffective competition. In this case the industry sector I chose suffered from extremely poor service, with slow delivery, and poor quality control. I discovered this market by hearing complaints from friends in the industry buying this type of product.
          2. Very high profit margins. I would never consider any product unless I could multiply the total costs including selling costs, by 250% minimum. My best markup was 700%. To achieve these margins I could not sell higher, I had to buy lower, but to compete I had to obtain quality products.
          Sorry I can't help more on product selection. All I can suggest is that you could think about products you are your friends are familiar with through hobbies, employment, or as a customer, and see if you can come up with any that meet my criteria above.
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  • Profile picture of the author sergit
    Hi Importexport
    I am looking into starting a wholesale import from China and considering buying your book. Were you doing exporting too when you were in business? I do export containers of closeout goods from time to time but it doesn't happen often.
    Now I have a question about unloading the container after bringing it in. Can you talk a bit about what offline channels were you using and how to approach it? or is it covered in your book?
    I mostly work online and understand that Amazon, eBay and my own e-commerce store can be a good place to sell online. But have no clue about offline and wholesale vs retail. Bringing a container and selling it wholesale would be ideal for fast turn over.
    thx

    btw, I used to work with a couple suppliers in China but at that time we made a mistake of starting a dropshipping business with them when they were shipping directly to buyer after we transfer money for the order. This model was killed by expensive shipping and wire transfer fees eating most of the profits. Shipping glass tiles in carton boxes from China wasn't a good idea also
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by sergit View Post

      Hi Importexport
      I am looking into starting a wholesale import from China and considering buying your book. Were you doing exporting too when you were in business? I do export containers of closeout goods from time to time but it doesn't happen often.
      Now I have a question about unloading the container after bringing it in. Can you talk a bit about what offline channels were you using and how to approach it? or is it covered in your book?
      I mostly work online and understand that Amazon, eBay and my own e-commerce store can be a good place to sell online. But have no clue about offline and wholesale vs retail. Bringing a container and selling it wholesale would be ideal for fast turn over.
      thx

      btw, I used to work with a couple suppliers in China but at that time we made a mistake of starting a dropshipping business with them when they were shipping directly to buyer after we transfer money for the order. This model was killed by expensive shipping and wire transfer fees eating most of the profits. Shipping glass tiles in carton boxes from China wasn't a good idea also
      Hi sergit,

      Yes I was in exporting prior to starting importing. My first job after leaving college was with a big international shipping company. After a few years I started my own business. I was exporting primarily to Asia/Pacific countries. The goods were my own manufacture.

      After so many visits to Asian countries I developed a great network of contacts, and began importing. I sold only B2B in a specialized field which I can't disclose because when health problems forced me to retire I sold that business that I had run for 22 years, and the new owner and all my former franchisees are still in that business.

      We never brought in container loads, but instead used a system I call "Just In Time" to keep a flow of small orders coming in by air courier with timing depending on sales.

      Unloading of containers can be done by your freight forwarder, and reloaded on transport to your business location, or the container can be delivered to you. In either case, there is a limited time available before you are charged rental on the container.

      My book does not deal with marketing of products. If you are interested in eBay marketing and want expert advice on that I suggest you contact auctiondebteliminator, who often posts on WF.

      In relation to wholesale v retail, I suggest that for wholesaling you consider offering big discounts that depend entirely upon either COD payment or possibly payment within 7 days. Allowing credit is a major risk.

      If you supply retail to consumers they do not require credit.

      I have seen many attempts at wholesaling fail, because it is rare to be able to sell a container load in one sale. If you break it up into small lots you may as well sell retail.
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  • Profile picture of the author sergit
    Thank you for explanation.
    By unloading container I actually meant selling the load... Interesting that you were doing air shipments instead of sea. Courier can be really expensive. I remember paying for shipping more then for product itself, especially for smaller orders. So for example for a $400 order $100 would be cost of product, $150 shipping and $40 wire transfer. Guess you don't have to do wire for every order and instead keep some money on account to avoid bank fees. But shipping is still expensive.
    What was the reason you didn't bring containers instead to increase profit? A 40' would cost around $2,000. Because you had wide range of products? This is what stopped us - too many designs and we didn't know what would sell..
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by sergit View Post

      Thank you for explanation.
      By unloading container I actually meant selling the load... Interesting that you were doing air shipments instead of sea. Courier can be really expensive. I remember paying for shipping more then for product itself, especially for smaller orders. So for example for a $400 order $100 would be cost of product, $150 shipping and $40 wire transfer. Guess you don't have to do wire for every order and instead keep some money on account to avoid bank fees. But shipping is still expensive.
      What was the reason you didn't bring containers instead to increase profit? A 40' would cost around $2,000. Because you had wide range of products? This is what stopped us - too many designs and we didn't know what would sell..
      OK. I see what you mean about "unloading" and I think I did cover that in passing.

      The reason air courier worked so well was that we were importing items of small size and weight, but very high value. A 5kg (11 lb) package might have goods in it that were sold for as much as $2,000. Also, products were bought from several suppliers. This would not suit some people but worked well for us.

      You are right also about bank fees. I organized monthly accounts with all suppliers, and how to do that is one of the tricks of the trade that I teach. very simple but very effective.
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      • Profile picture of the author Giavonnie76
        Originally Posted by Anton Louis View Post

        I've brought in over 20 40' containers from the China to the US (to NY, NJ and CA). I can help answer questions or provide you with my customs brokers info if you're interested.

        - Anton
        Originally Posted by Silas Hart View Post

        Very broad question, but yes.
        Hello...

        I'm interested in getting involved in the import/export business. I'm looking to get involved from the aspect of being a broker by connecting the buyer & the seller and then obtaining a commission for my assistance.

        My curiosity in this business was inspired by this thread:
        http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-goldmine.html

        Can you or anyone else provide some guidance? Resources I can check out? Books? Contacts?

        Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated...much thanks!
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