dropshipping and ebay

by darbok
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on my 2nd sale on ebay yesterday it really hit home with me the expense of dropshipping.

my item wholesaled for 7.26... shipping for dropshipping 5.31, ebay fee .75, paypal fee .74... so my 7.26 item is now 14.35.... yeah I made .65 on the item. oh well.. could of been worse I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author Meharis
    Originally Posted by darbok View Post

    on my 2nd sale on ebay yesterday it really hit home with me the expense of dropshipping.

    my item wholesaled for 7.26... shipping for dropshipping 5.31, ebay fee .75, paypal fee .74... so my 7.26 item is now 14.35.... yeah I made .65 on the item. oh well.. could of been worse I guess.

    darbok,

    It's worse.
    Did you consider the cost of your time invested?
    Whatever you think it's, that's your income lost.
    Of course, my personal point of view.

    Meharis
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

      darbok,
      It's worse.
      Did you consider the cost of your time invested?
      Whatever you think it's, that's your income lost.
      Of course, my personal point of view.
      Meharis
      I agree that the return per hour for time spent on selling dropshipped products is not worth the effort. I also understand that from darbok's perspective any profit is better than nothing.

      For those people who are not so poor and could find a few hundred dollars to put into a business the most profitable use of your investment (TIME and MONEY) is to buy a small inventory direct from overseas manufacturers.

      The profit margins are such that even on a small investment you can earn a huge rate per hour. I would never look at a product unless I could sell it at landed cost x 250%, but I often made a lot more.

      You can find manufacturers who will quote an MOQ of 100 items and by taking the right approach you can get them to agree to supply 10. For a few hundred dollars you can import a small quantity and make a profit that dropshippers would only dream about. You then put the money back into more inventory and you are on your way to building a highly profitable business.

      If you make one sale with a profit of $100 after all costs, that beats slaving away to make 10 or even 20 sales to earn $100. You might get it automated, but there is still more work involved, and there is more risk.

      You won't find wholesalers on the big sourcing sites willing to negotiate small orders at such low prices; you have to go direct to the manufacturers, and you will have trouble finding them on those popular sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author thesweetspot
    Hey at least you did make a profit for that lesson learned......I find promoting and finding high profit margin products makes sense when starting out. I know that anyone can spend $30 or even $10 dollars online, however I learned the same way you did darbok.


    Also, if you are getting sales, find a way to increase the the description. Everyone might say, well, 65 cents, but lets not forget, banks and credit card companies and those middle men companies generate .40 cents per transaction and then other fees. I think darbok, you could really automate this and increase traffic to the site. And then create more listings with a different price that is higher for testing purposes and of course profit.

    Also, how long have you been selling since you opened the ebay account? I would like to know because some people only will purchase through powersellers and you were able to get a sale.

    I don't know about everyone else but I usually go through top rated sellers regardless of the price.

    And to be honest, I could take the .65 cents all day long, heck YES and then automate it with amazon fulfillment...

    Darbok, you are on a money site, keep selling and testing!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    I am not sure I would agree with thesweetspot on making 65 cents and doing it all day long. That is simply not worth your time. Sell higher ASP items, and do the math BEFORE you list it. Or sell multi-packs if it makes sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author darbok
      Originally Posted by redlegrich View Post

      I am not sure I would agree with thesweetspot on making 65 cents and doing it all day long. That is simply not worth your time. Sell higher ASP items, and do the math BEFORE you list it. Or sell multi-packs if it makes sense.

      I learned my lesson about doing the math, now that I have a better understanding of the math... my goal is to sell small things till I get to the point I dont have to pre ship items to get paid then try to find items of a higher payout for a better profit margin. I can't do expensive items and having to prepay for them because I'm simply poor.
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    Ha ha, gotcha on that one darbok. As an old boss once said, inch by inch life's a cinch ;-)

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
    Originally Posted by darbok View Post

    on my 2nd sale on ebay yesterday it really hit home with me the expense of dropshipping.

    my item wholesaled for 7.26... shipping for dropshipping 5.31, ebay fee .75, paypal fee .74... so my 7.26 item is now 14.35.... yeah I made .65 on the item. oh well.. could of been worse I guess.
    You need to carefully chose items to dropship that have an acceptable profit margin. I only dropship products with margins of 20% and more.

    You should figure out the margins before you list them on eBay, otherwise, you could lose your shirt fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneMotion
    Originally Posted by darbok View Post

    on my 2nd sale on ebay yesterday it really hit home with me the expense of dropshipping.

    my item wholesaled for 7.26... shipping for dropshipping 5.31, ebay fee .75, paypal fee .74... so my 7.26 item is now 14.35.... yeah I made .65 on the item. oh well.. could of been worse I guess.
    You just need to find dropshipping company with free shipping. So it didn't cut your profit. You can check out some china dropshipper but be careful when choose the product you want to sell.
    Just my 2 cents
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    • Profile picture of the author jumbo1
      darbok, I just started this dropshipping business too on eBay.

      The way I see it, I don't need to make any remarkable profit for now, breaking even would be also OK, but what I'm trying to do is LEARN the business...

      And btw, put more effort on the marketing side. Don't bother yourself with the profit for now. Once you master the marketing aspect of the business, you're through...
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      • Profile picture of the author Importexport
        Originally Posted by lastreporter View Post

        You need to carefully chose items to dropship that have an acceptable profit margin. I only dropship products with margins of 20% and more.

        You should figure out the margins before you list them on eBay, otherwise, you could lose your shirt fast.
        It seems that most online product sellers have no idea what they are losing by going with the dropship business model. 20% is in my opinion way too low to bother with when you can get many times more than that. Please see my post above on 03.14 regarding margins.

        Originally Posted by OneMotion View Post

        You just need to find dropshipping company with free shipping. So it didn't cut your profit. You can check out some china dropshipper but be careful when choose the product you want to sell.
        Just my 2 cents
        Free shipping is not going to make up for the lack of profit margin. Don't forget that most Chinese dropshippers are competing with you, and their discounts are mostly so low that in effect you are low cost labor for them. Imagine getting sales reps to work for you for a tiny percentage of each sale. That's what these low profit dropship suppliers succeed in doing.

        Originally Posted by jumbo1 View Post

        darbok, I just started this dropshipping business too on eBay.

        The way I see it, I don't need to make any remarkable profit for now, breaking even would be also OK, but what I'm trying to do is LEARN the business...

        And btw, put more effort on the marketing side. Don't bother yourself with the profit for now. Once you master the marketing aspect of the business, you're through...
        Aiming to break even is a costly way to learn how to market your products when there are experts such as Auctiondebteliminator who can teach you.
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  • Thanks for the plug, ImportExport! It's true - breaking even is JUST as damaging as taking a loss - especially since determining a market value for your products can be KNOWN before you even sell them!

    Because of all this predictability, it seems a mystery to my why anyone would take a loss of break even just for 'the experience'
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  • Profile picture of the author Solid Commerce
    There is definitely a point at which drop-shipping makes sense, and it almost always has to do with volume.

    To put it simply, shipping costs money. Basically all parts of it do. Eventually, some sellers get to the point where they're doing business to such a degree that it makes sense to outsource the shipping/fulfillment aspect of their business.

    For smaller-volume sellers, yes -- drop-shipping not only doesn't always make financial sense, but it isn't always necessary.

    When inventory starts to scale upwards, multiple selling channels get thrown into the mix, and online selling generally gets more complicated, though, drop shipping can be an option that winds up making a lot of sense for certain sellers.

    It's all about doing your due diligence and figuring out what'll make the most financial sense for you and your specific online selling operation.
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by Solid Commerce View Post

      There is definitely a point at which drop-shipping makes sense, and it almost always has to do with volume.

      To put it simply, shipping costs money. Basically all parts of it do. Eventually, some sellers get to the point where they're doing business to such a degree that it makes sense to outsource the shipping/fulfillment aspect of their business.

      For smaller-volume sellers, yes -- drop-shipping not only doesn't always make financial sense, but it isn't always necessary.

      When inventory starts to scale upwards, multiple selling channels get thrown into the mix, and online selling generally gets more complicated, though, drop shipping can be an option that winds up making a lot of sense for certain sellers.

      It's all about doing your due diligence and figuring out what'll make the most financial sense for you and your specific online selling operation.
      Hi Sean,

      I am not saying this applies to you but there seems to be a fixation on volume. I see people quoting their huge turnover figures but they don't often quote their profits.

      Business is all about profit, and in my opinion profit begins with buying. If you pay too much you obviously can't make so much profit.

      That is why importing direct is appealing to more and more people. The profit margins when buying direct from overseas manufacturers absolutely eclipse the pathetic margins usually quoted by dropshippers.

      The result is that total profit on a small turnover often far exceeds total profit on a huge turnover. I for one like the idea of bigger profits for less work.

      I also like the idea of being in control of my own business rather than rely on some wholesaler for building and maintaining my customer goodwill. How many posts are there on the forum in which members have bewailed being let down by their dropship suppliers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Solid Commerce
    (Also worth noting is the fact that some fulfillment services -- Amazon's FBA, specifically -- will even fulfill items that you sold on eBay.)
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