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ldiaz117

10 years ago

Wordpress is fine.

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the moose 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ldiaz117

Wordpress is fine.

Thank you for your reply.

Which e-commerce plugin would you suggest for managing circa 100 products split over a handful of product categories?
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amcg

10 years ago

I think Wordpress and Drupal are the two leading CMS's - both particularly good for SEO. I started with Wordpress, it's easy and you can always try the hosted version at Wordpress.com without being technical.

Drupal's a bit different as there's a steeper learning curve but it's arguably a lot more flexible as a CMS.

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the moose

10 years ago

Originally Posted by amcg

I think Wordpress and Drupal are the two leading CMS's - both particularly good for SEO. I started with Wordpress, it's easy and you can always try the hosted version at Wordpress.com without being technical.

Drupal's a bit different as there's a steeper learning curve but it's arguably a lot more flexible as a CMS.

And how's Drupal on the product side of things?

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amcg 10 years ago

Originally Posted by the moose

And how's Drupal on the product side of things?

As a developer? It's the same as Wordpress, PHP, takes some work to optimize etc. I think when you're choosing anything open source you must evaluate the community and the roadmap. Wordpress and Drupal both have excellent and thriving communities; meaning you can invest in their platforms knowing there will be a roadmap, support etc. (things you also get with a proprietary software vendor at a price)
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intMarketers

10 years ago

As I recommended on an other thread, WooCommecre is probably the best for anything eCommerce. It can fulfill all you needs and depending on how you do your business you can automate certain parts of it.

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dburk 10 years ago

Hi moose,

While Wordpress is great for blogging, it does have some critical limitations as an eCommerce platform. Sure there are plugins that give you all of the basic functionality, however they are not nearly as robust as a true eCommerce script, and there are severe security risks in using WP for an eCommerce platform.

Another route might be to use a script built from the ground up to be a true eCommerce platform. The most popular shopping cart platform is Magento, it offers far more than any of the WP plugins and you can use it in place of Wordpress, or along side WP, just grab a plugin that integrates a WP blog into the web store.

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SamOne

10 years ago

Disagree. Woocommerce for Wordpress has come a very long way and there are services that can be used to secure transactions and make your site PCI compliant... Ie Mijereh.

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dburk

10 years ago

Originally Posted by SamOne

Disagree. Woocommerce for Wordpress has come a very long way and there are services that can be used to secure transactions and make your site PCI compliant... Ie Mijereh.

Hi SamOne,

Mijereh is a hosted checkout, similar to Google checkout, or Paypal. While those 3rd party websites may be PCI compliant, using them does not fully address the security risks associated with using WP, and it doesn't make your WP script PCI compliant.

WP is the most frequently hacked CMS on the planet and while using a 3rd party hosted checkout will mitigate much of the risk it can also reduce conversion rates. I agree it is better to use a 3rd party hosted checkout if using WP as it would be just way too risky not to.

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robertstephenl85

10 years ago

Wordpress is the best CMS for SEO. If you like to make a e-commerce website. Then i will prefer Woocommerce plugin for you. It has great feature and it's easy to use.

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kjamesnv

10 years ago

If this for an ecommerce site then there are some concerns with WP/Woo Commerce.

Take a look at Magento. It has a very good CMS system geared to ecommerce and it is optimized for SEO.

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intMarketers

10 years ago

@dburk

It's the most widely used System (20% of the web), so statistically when you make an average, you will find that it's the least frequently hacked. And when it is, it isn't related to WP itself but to its users, who use the default "admin" username with simple passwords which are found using BruteForce.

This is to say that WordPress, when used with an Entreprise mentality, is an Entreprise level software.

I have other arguments if you need some more.

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kjamesnv

10 years ago

Originally Posted by intMarketers

@dburk

It's the most widely used System (20% of the web), so statistically when you make an average, you will find that it's the least frequently hacked. And when it is, it isn't related to WP itself but to its users, who use the default "admin" username with simple passwords which are found using BruteForce.

This is to say that WordPress, when used with an Entreprise mentality, is an Entreprise level software.

A few points:

* Word Press IS NOT an enterprise level ecommerce system - regardless of your "mentality". It was not designed for that purpose. There is not a single top 1000 ecommerce site running Woocommerce.

* Furthermore WP has well know security issues. That may or may not be important when you are running a blog. But its a SERIOUS matter when you are accepting credit card numbers. Just ask Target.

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dburk 10 years ago

Originally Posted by intMarketers

This is to say that WordPress, when used with an Entreprise mentality, is an Entreprise level software.

Hi intMarketers,

If you start with an Enterprise mentality you would never consider Wordpress as a CMS for eCommerce in the first place.

Yes, Wordpress' popularity is what makes it a target, and yes most people get hacked because they are using Wordpress exactly as it was designed to be used, instead of deploying it with a bunch of enterprise level hacks to harden it against attacks. But you seem to have missed my point completely. I apologize for not being more clear.

I should have said that Wordpress was not built from the ground up to be secure and robust. Instead it was built to be easy to use and easy to mod specifically to make it easy to build plugins. This strategy has contributed greatly to the popularity of Wordpress as a CMS for blogging. That very strategy is also what makes it less than ideal for eCommerce.

At the opposite spectrum, what makes Magento the most popular ecommerce platform is it's robustness, security, and rich features the reduce the need for 3rd party plugins. That strategy makes it harder for programmers to modify the code and plugins are more complex. However, it makes it idea for eCommerce and that, plus it's ease of use for web store management, has made it the most popular CMS for eCommerce.

When people make the mistake of hiring a WP programmer to mod their Magento script they end up paying a lot more than expected, mainly due to most WP programmers do not have the knowledge and skills to work on Magento platform, and they try to mod it to work like a WP site. That's a bad idea and the reason most WP programmers avoid the Magento script. Also, it is the likely reason that Magento hasn't completely dominated the shopping cart market even more than it has.

If you are starting off with an enterprise mentality, you generally would chose an enterprise level platform, not a platform designed for something else, lacking many of the core features you need, and then hacking it up to try to make it work in the environment it was never designed for, at least that is how I see it. You might disagree, and that is your prerogative.
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- fapilot 10 years ago
  
  Theres several ways to get around some of the security problems when using wordpress. Yes many people dont take the time to address the concerns after the initial install. After i install WP i change the login page to something else other than the default wp-login.php.
  I also use a captcha on the woocommerce registration page, comments & password reset.. Takes care of all those scanners/hackers/spammers looking for a way in. Also delete the sample.php file.
  
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  the moose 10 years ago
  
  So, I'll take a look at Magento then and go from there.
  
  Thanks for your help guys - it's much appreciated.
  
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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

Seems Wordpress would be a natural for this, since you want 50/50 content products. There's an extension for just about anything you want to accomplish with Woocommerce.