by Synthy
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Hello Warriors,

How do you deal with inflated prices on amazon due to their fees?
Do you sell on amazon under your website's name and possibly link back to your website?

What would happen if a customer sees that your website prices and amazon prices don't match up?

Also amazon offers a CPC program to advertise with them, I though Google ad words already used amazon in their ads? as on my shopify store I can getting referrals from amazon.

Finally, how worth while is it taking the time to create new listings for all of your products instead of just tagging them quickly on a csv file or something to existing ads.

Thanks.
#amazon #listings or info
  • Profile picture of the author DSGDSG
    Originally Posted by Synthy View Post

    Hello Warriors,

    How do you deal with inflated prices on amazon due to their fees?
    Do you sell on amazon under your website's name and possibly link back to your website?

    What would happen if a customer sees that your website prices and amazon prices don't match up?

    Also amazon offers a CPC program to advertise with them, I though Google ad words already used amazon in their ads? as on my shopify store I can getting referrals from amazon.

    Finally, how worth while is it taking the time to create new listings for all of your products instead of just tagging them quickly on a csv file or something to existing ads.

    Thanks.
    I can't answer all your questions but for some reason I recall when I signed my merchant agreement with amazon one of the conditions was that prices on my site were not allowed to be cheaper than what was listed on amazon. And they did check often and send me warnings. The other question I can answer, amazon did not allow me to list products as a new product if it already existed on their site. Lately I see them doing a big push to merge ASINs that are all the same product.
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    • Profile picture of the author amcg
      Originally Posted by DSGDSG View Post

      I can't answer all your questions but for some reason I recall when I signed my merchant agreement with amazon one of the conditions was that prices on my site were not allowed to be cheaper than what was listed on amazon. And they did check often and send me warnings. The other question I can answer, amazon did not allow me to list products as a new product if it already existed on their site. Lately I see them doing a big push to merge ASINs that are all the same product.
      This is long-over due - notice Ebay are doing exactly the same thing with their aggregated search results. I think they realize that on the desktop web, we can all scroll infinitely whereas with mobile, we don't.
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    • Profile picture of the author PJ Harmsworth
      Originally Posted by DSGDSG View Post

      I can't answer all your questions but for some reason I recall when I signed my merchant agreement with amazon one of the conditions was that prices on my site were not allowed to be cheaper than what was listed on amazon. And they did check often and send me warnings. The other question I can answer, amazon did not allow me to list products as a new product if it already existed on their site. Lately I see them doing a big push to merge ASINs that are all the same product.
      The bit about not being able to sell the same products cheaper is now not the case. It used to be, but anti competition laws were enforced and it is now possible to sell elsewhere on the Internet for a cheaper price.
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  • Profile picture of the author repricerexpress
    I think you still have to keep your own webstore prices the same or higher than your Amazon listings in the US but in Europe that's entirely abolished—sellers in European countries can sell their wares on Amazon and their own webstores at different prices.

    I think because of this, the Amazon Product Ads might become popular—I wrote a post about the differences between that and the Amazon 'Sponsored Products' ad program: Amazon Sponsored Products Ads in the Spotlight - RepricerExpress

    I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Amazon abolishes price parity restrictions in the US so maybe product ads will become more relevant then.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ecommerce Advice
    Not sure what you are thinking of selling on Amazon

    BUT

    Unless you can be the cheapest supplier you are hardly going to make any sales - unless all the other suppliers run out of stock.

    In my view you are better to create your own brand so you can control the price and limit competition. It's not as hard as you probably think and can give you much better margins.
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    • Profile picture of the author Synthy
      Thank you for the advice.

      That's the problem, I am dropshipping currently. As I don't have a lot of money to put into my business and probably wont until I get some profit. If you search for my products on amazon there is probably 4 or 5 other sellers trying to sell the same products.

      I do have my own website, but so far I am losing money on google adwords and am at a slight loss (been going for 2 months). Though I have made a few sales on my website.

      "In my view you are better to create your own brand so you can control the price and limit competition. It's not as hard as you probably think and can give you much better margins"

      how do I do this please?

      Also, website is TheHomewareGiftShop | Home Decor | Ornaments | Figurines and Gifts. which I would love to hear feedback on.

      Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author OnlineStoreHelp
        Originally Posted by Synthy View Post

        Thank you for the advice.

        That's the problem, I am dropshipping currently. As I don't have a lot of money to put into my business and probably wont until I get some profit. If you search for my products on amazon there is probably 4 or 5 other sellers trying to sell the same products.

        I do have my own website, but so far I am losing money on google adwords and am at a slight loss (been going for 2 months). Though I have made a few sales on my website.

        "In my view you are better to create your own brand so you can control the price and limit competition. It's not as hard as you probably think and can give you much better margins"

        how do I do this please?

        Also, website is TheHomewareGiftShop | Home Decor | Ornaments | Figurines and Gifts. which I would love to hear feedback on.

        Thanks.
        I have to ask this since there might be a reason you aren't making sales...

        Are you using a company like Doba or other dropshipping directory? (I will be shocked if you say no) It looks like you are and unfortunately you will never get the margins you need to compete at Amazon.

        What is the theme/niche of your site because it really looks like your site tries to carry any and everything. You have everything from gift bags and boxes to chimes and charms.

        Why am I betting your bounce rate is very high on your website? Can you let us know? When I went to your website I was overwhelmed and had no clue what your site sells or was about.

        Use one of Shopify's free mobile themes since right now you don't have a separate CSS so any mobile users will immediately leave.

        I know you are looking for ways to make sales but I have a feeling you might have some flaws in your niche strategy.

        Am I off?
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  • Profile picture of the author repricerexpress
    Amazon: lots of ready-to-buy customers but margins smaller. Own webstore: not so many customers but margins higher in theory, however, how will you drive customers to your webstore? That takes a lot of time and effort unless you're well-established etc. There's no right or wrong here but consider the cost of building and maintaining your website and the cost of driving customers to it as that reduces your overall margins a great deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mubashirshafi
    Op your question is a bit wired you might be in confusion actually it still converts if you are an affiliate with Amazon and your website is ranking on top 5 and getting just a few a visitors... They will surely convert but the ratio would be not so good.
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    • Profile picture of the author vivianpos
      I don't sell on Amazon because the seller fees too high for me. I have my own website. I tried adwords but didn't help. SEO helps in bringing us customers.
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  • Originally Posted by Synthy View Post

    Hello Warriors,

    How do you deal with inflated prices on amazon due to their fees?
    Do you sell on amazon under your website's name and possibly link back to your website?

    What would happen if a customer sees that your website prices and amazon prices don't match up?

    Also amazon offers a CPC program to advertise with them, I though Google ad words already used amazon in their ads? as on my shopify store I can getting referrals from amazon.

    Finally, how worth while is it taking the time to create new listings for all of your products instead of just tagging them quickly on a csv file or something to existing ads.

    Thanks.
    1) Prices are not inflated because people sell at lower than suggested retail. Prices are lower and margins are lower. Amazon is NOT a place where you will see price inflation.

    2) Customers will just buy at the lower price. Amazon does a have a policy that your prices on your website should not be lower than prices on Amazon. They used to check this and send us emails sometimes on some products but we haven't seen anything from them on this for at least 2 years. There are just too many merchants to check on. Plus, in general prices on Amazon are almost always lower, i would say 95% of the time because of competition so it really isn't worth Amazons time to monitor it.

    3) Amazon products do show up in Google for natural search results. Amazon has two CPC programs. One for ads for your products that will link to your site and one for products you sell on Amazon that would link to those products on Amazon. We did not have success with the first type, linking to our site and we are about 3 weeks in on the other type and too early to tell.

    4) I don't understand the last question. Are you talking about creating your own product listings on Amazon or adding yourself to existing products already on Amazon?
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    • Profile picture of the author Synthy
      Originally Posted by IWishToRemainAnonymous View Post

      1) Prices are not inflated because people sell at lower than suggested retail. Prices are lower and margins are lower. Amazon is NOT a place where you will see price inflation.

      2) Customers will just buy at the lower price. Amazon does a have a policy that your prices on your website should not be lower than prices on Amazon. They used to check this and send us emails sometimes on some products but we haven't seen anything from them on this for at least 2 years. There are just too many merchants to check on. Plus, in general prices on Amazon are almost always lower, i would say 95% of the time because of competition so it really isn't worth Amazons time to monitor it.

      3) Amazon products do show up in Google for natural search results. Amazon has two CPC programs. One for ads for your products that will link to your site and one for products you sell on Amazon that would link to those products on Amazon. We did not have success with the first type, linking to our site and we are about 3 weeks in on the other type and too early to tell.

      4) I don't understand the last question. Are you talking about creating your own product listings on Amazon or adding yourself to existing products already on Amazon?
      Thank you for the reply, regarding #4, yes, creating new listings for all the products I am selling, however I don't know if amazon would ban me or delete listings for this, as almost all of the items I sell already have listings.

      The main problem being that if I list under the standard listing, it is almost certain on every product that I will not be selling for the cheapest price.

      Possibly would get me some free SEO and advertising spamming my website name across the internet maybe? even if I get no sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author WordpressManiac
    If you sell on Amazon I'd try to sell under a private label that helps to limit competition. Also you could bundle Items to get more sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author amcg
    Originally Posted by Synthy View Post

    Hello Warriors,

    How do you deal with inflated prices on amazon due to their fees?
    Do you sell on amazon under your website's name and possibly link back to your website?

    What would happen if a customer sees that your website prices and amazon prices don't match up?

    Also amazon offers a CPC program to advertise with them, I though Google ad words already used amazon in their ads? as on my shopify store I can getting referrals from amazon.

    Finally, how worth while is it taking the time to create new listings for all of your products instead of just tagging them quickly on a csv file or something to existing ads.

    Thanks.
    The way you deal with it is to build up sales on third party marketplaces to a point where you have the sales/customer base to launch your own platform (website).

    When that situation arises, you will then be able to sell at prices you're comfortable with and you won't be paying any third party fees. Off course, many folks now use both their own website and third party marketplaces to sell stuff.
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