Crafting Follow Up Series - Information Overload

by Eoon
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OK guys, so I am just getting back to my emails lists that were so neglected over the last few years...over 14k members in a few health/remedies niche, total waste up to this point...

All because I get so confused when I think about crafting the series that I get distracted and start doing something else.

This time I wan to take my time and do it the right way.

Bottom line - Can somebody please point me towards a resource, course or something that will help me craft the follow up series in the health niche?


Thanks a million
#crafting #follow #information #overload #series
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Eoon View Post

    Bottom line - Can somebody please point me towards a resource, course or something that will help me craft the follow up series in the health niche?
    Health is a "market", not a "niche", and it's one of the world's biggest markets. There are thousands of "health niches". What matters is that you start out from a position in which all your traffic (and therefore subscribers) are accurately targeted for one niche, and that's the one in which you're going to promote products, and that it really is a "niche".

    How you do that in "health niches" is really the same as how you do it in any niche - or at least, the underlying principles are the same, even if the precise detail varies a little.

    I'm a little reluctant to supply a "resource" for someone who put the words "information overload" in the title, but here are six posts/threads which, between them, cover almost all the basic concepts of email marketing, and should at least get you oriented.

    What are the essential things to know about list building?

    Lists: How Long to Presell - Averages

    Website or squeeze page

    Where to get reports to give away on opt in page?

    Autoresponders vs. Broadcasts

    Sick of Emails Not Being Opened?


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    • Profile picture of the author Eoon
      Thanks for taking the time to come up with this list.

      I apologize, I might have not been clear enough of where I am and what I need. You didn't really believe that somebody with over 14k of subscribers would think health is a "niche"...c'mon

      I have about a dozen CB websites in remedies niches like gallstones...

      Let me be clear - for these lists I have built over time I need a road map for devising a good followup. When I say this, I mean:

      *frequency
      *order of sending sales emails, value emails, relationship emails, gifts...
      *short email and content on my website vs. longer email...

      Things like that...I need some kind of a course (have no problem with paying for that) or a road map to follow. Right now I feel like it's guess work and I want to eliminate as much testing as possible.

      Bottom line, again, I need a good course...
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      • Profile picture of the author caretaker
        Get a good mentor, Robert Mangan comes to mind
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Eoon View Post

        You didn't really believe that somebody with over 14k of subscribers would think health is a "niche"...c'mon
        I never know what to think, when people refer to "the health niche": all I know for sure is that there's no such thing.

        Originally Posted by Eoon View Post

        When I say this, I mean:

        *frequency
        *order of sending sales emails, value emails, relationship emails, gifts...
        You need to test for yourself.

        All my emails (and especially the ones which also include anything promotional) are "value emails": that's how I maintain a very high open-rate for them.

        Personally, I send email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15 and thereafter at 5-day intervals, with something promotional occupying the second half of every third email, and I've evolved that system because it's what seems to work best for me.

        Originally Posted by Eoon View Post

        *short email and content on my website vs. longer email...
        I do significantly worse with that than with longer emails. This post explains why (but you may have to read a few posts before it, too, to work out what it's talking about): http://www.warriorforum.com/email-ma...ml#post9587745 .

        Originally Posted by Eoon View Post

        Bottom line, again, I need a good course...
        There's something in the signature-file of John McCabe which you might want to look at? I haven't seen it, myself, but he certainly talks far more sense (and on this exact subject, too) than almost anyone else I've ever encountered online, so I'll be absolutely astonished if it isn't good.

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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    Look up Ben Settle and Andre Chaperon. Both have amazing products on email marketing that will help you make some serious cash with your lists.

    Both are big advocates on selling through stories. Tell your list a story related to their health issues (I don't know what exact topic your list is about), relate some lesson or tip out of the story, and then soft pitch to a product at the end of it.

    For example:

    "The other day I fell down the stairs...[go into story about that]...it made me realize how important it is to have strong bones that don't break easily...[now we're going to go into the pitch]....Luckily I didn't suffer any serious injuries from the fall because of this awesome natural tea I've been drinking. Its loaded with vitamin C and other nutrients your body craves and needs. Click here to grab it: http://LINK.com"

    Thats a really rough example but it should give you an idea on how to go about things.

    Hope it helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Eoon
    Thanks guys, all very helpful...

    I must say that it was easier at the beginning when I had a few lists and didn't have products. Making a cycle by promoting a product for 3-4 emails and then moving on...

    But, in my current situation when I am trying to promote one single product all the time. You have to shake things up...

    Just now I am looking at a list I have and my open rates are 60 % for the first email and then 25-38% for the rest of them. I don't even know if that's good or not...

    Back to the white board...

    For all the people just starting out, if there is anything to learn from what I am saying here it's this - develop a mechanism do remove the "NOISE" from your head.

    Here I am with all this lists I've built that are completely underused because I wasn't able to maintain FOCUS. I put the form there, write a few follow ups and then like a kid with ADD I get distracted by a new toy, whether it's niche websites, T-spring or whatever.

    Choose one thing and work on it until it's fully in place or until you are sure that it's now working.

    Sorry for the lengthy message, somebody might find this useful sometime and avoid the kind of chaos I have in my brain right now.

    I am trying to tackle stuff with the "Clear-the -mechanism" approach from the movie For the Love of the Game if anybody has seen it...
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Eoon View Post

      Just now I am looking at a list I have and my open rates are 60 % for the first email and then 25-38% for the rest of them. I don't even know if that's good or not...

      Back to the white board...

      For all the people just starting out, if there is anything to learn from what I am saying here it's this - develop a mechanism do remove the "NOISE" from your head.

      Here I am with all this lists I've built that are completely underused because I wasn't able to maintain FOCUS. I put the form there, write a few follow ups and then like a kid with ADD I get distracted by a new toy, whether it's niche websites, T-spring or whatever.

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      Hey Eoon,

      Those are NOT bad stats for your Open rates.

      Also, shoot for at least 30 solid Follow Ups. Do not stop, do not get distracted, do not get the next shiny toy until you have completed those 30 solid, content laden , (promo laden too lol) follow ups to your List.

      Then just recycle the best ones after that

      - Robert Andrew
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