Selling Ebooks via email marketing?

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I watched a docstoc video on e commerce entrepreneurs. One guy made an ebook in 2002. It took him 8 months to write it. While he was writing it he was testing landing pages etc.

It went, traffic > landing page opt in > send 3 emails a week for a month > offered ebook in email > went to landing page of e book > sale

He said the book was 30 bucks and he sold 1 million copies of the book.

Thats 30 million roughly...

Is this still the way it works today?

I know you still make banner ads, test those, buy traffic, test landing pages, different copy, etc. All thats fine. But with selling e books?

Do people still buy e books like that? Even if he only made 500k, that's still a ton of money for 8 months of work.

Are info products marketed via email that simple?
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  • Profile picture of the author ipsummedia
    Yes you can do that. I think that particular person must have chosen a hungry market with low competition.So If you find that kind of niche then definitely its worth trying .
    Basically what you need is responsive email list thats it,So
    1.Target market
    2.Make email list
    3.Give them some valuable info
    4.Sell them your ebook

    How it helps
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    • Profile picture of the author GregAU
      Hi

      Yep, it still works exactly like that, and is a model I use

      There is a lot more competition these days - more people are doing this.

      Plus we now have to compete for people's mailboxes - everyone's getting dozens if not hundreds of emails a day.

      But the basic principles still absolutely work. Find a niche, develop an ebook, get traffic, get their email addresses and educate them making references to the ebook. And they will buy.

      Cheers
      Greg
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  • Profile picture of the author razorz18
    Yup. certainly work if you consider the info your giving is the content that your visitor wanted. Preferably you need to check the trend and know your client need before you can start writing ebook. Research is the key but you have to engage with your potential customers to get input. whether you sell it for 1 million copies or 10, doesn't matter. Its show this method still worked!
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  • Profile picture of the author creed1994
    Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

    I watched a docstoc video on e commerce entrepreneurs. One guy made an ebook in 2002. It took him 8 months to write it. While he was writing it he was testing landing pages etc.

    It went, traffic > landing page opt in > send 3 emails a week for a month > offered ebook in email > went to landing page of e book > sale

    He said the book was 30 bucks and he sold 1 million copies of the book.

    Thats 30 million roughly...

    Is this still the way it works today?

    I know you still make banner ads, test those, buy traffic, test landing pages, different copy, etc. All thats fine. But with selling e books?

    Do people still buy e books like that? Even if he only made 500k, that's still a ton of money for 8 months of work.

    Are info products marketed via email that simple?
    That's pretty much what people here are doing everyday. But I hardly think someone invests 8 month now to make an ebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author usemyteam
    There are still people who would succeed using this kind of strategy but 8 months maybe too long. You can have yours in 3-6 months and I hope you find the niche for you to work on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gray1980
    Thank you for the responses everyone I appreciate it. One last question:

    How do you find an actual problem / need people are having online that can be solved with information.'

    Theres SO much free information out there. You can google ANY problem you have and get FREE info on it and how to fix it too.

    So how do you find a problem?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      I think the business model you described in the first post is one that can still work.

      But here are four additional things to think about, regarding that ...

      (i) That isn't how it works out for most people (to put it mildly)

      (ii) A lot's going to depend on the person's existing skills, when they start doing it

      (iii) There's no detail there (this isn't a criticism, just an observation!), and the truly income-determining factors just about all relate to all that missing "detail"

      (iv) In my opinion, it's far easier and safer and better, for most people, most of the time, to do that as an affiliate than as a product creator and vendor - and here are just ten of my main reasons for saying that.

      Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

      So how do you find a problem?
      I prefer to stay away from them, myself.

      I think "enthusiasts' niches" are much better, in the long run, than "problem-solving niches".

      I know all those awful "guidebooks" tell you to "find something that solves people's problems and sell it to them", but it seems to me that they haven't quite thought it through.

      Once you've built your subscriber-list, established your credibility, formed your subscriber-relationships, and all the other basic, essential things you need to do to make marketing worthwhile, you're then going to promote your first product to each subscriber, according to the number of days for which s/he's been a subscriber and autoresponder emails s/he's already received from you (assuming that you have the sense to wait until then, and not lose most of the potential customers by promoting too early, as many people do!). A proportion of them will buy it.

      At this stage, "in problem-solving niches", looking at it in very simple terms only, one of two things happens.

      Either they like it, they think it's great and it solves their problem (the result is that you can't sell them anything else because they don't need to buy anything else, so you've just lost most of your potential future income) ...

      Or they don't like it, they don't think it's great and it doesn't really solve their problem, (the result is that you can't sell them anything else because you recommended a bad product, from their perspective, and blew your credibility, and they don't trust you any more).

      Not a great outcome for you, either way.

      In "enthusiasts' niches", people gradually buy more and more and more, to feed their enthusiasm, so you don't have that problem to anything like the same extent. (Having bought expensive things from this summer's Louboutin collection won't stop me from enthusiastically buying more expensive things from their winter collection. That's a better kind of customer, really, isn't it?)

      Be aware that for most successful marketers (unlike the extreme and unusual case mentioned in your original post, above), most of the long-term money comes from making repeated sales to the same captive audience (your subscribers - that's why listbuilding is so important!). That's why "enthusiasts' niches" are better than "problem-solving niches", and we're perhaps better off looking at those, rather than at how to solve others' problems.

      TL;DR version - with a "problem-solving niche", once you solve someone's problem, they may not still be a customer at all; and once you fail to solve it, they may not be your customer.


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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

        Thank you for the responses everyone I appreciate it. One last question:

        How do you find an actual problem / need people are having online that can be solved with information.'

        Theres SO much free information out there. You can google ANY problem you have and get FREE info on it and how to fix it too.

        So how do you find a problem?
        First, quit worrying about what people need. Focus on what people want, and how badly they want it. Even the "desperate buyer" markets are selling wants rather than needs.

        Maybe my doctor tells me I need to lose weight, but what I really want is to have more energy and leave the "big and tall" shops behind. And I'll spend a lot more money to satisfy those wants than I will the need.

        Second, your huge (HUGE) advantage is that there is so much free information out there. People are drowning in information and thirsting for information they can trust. Become the person they can trust, give (sell) them the information they want, and make the hours of wading through digital muck go away, and you can pretty much write your own ticket.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Trujillo
    Selling info products is a great way to build a business because it is all done digitally , and you don't have to worry about shipping physical merchandise out. People are demanding information on the internet so they go to experts in their niche and seek answers. If you can be that expert that helps people and provides solutions to people you can make money just like a lot of other people make money online, but you must have something of value to give. Also a thing to remember is to build your email list from day one, this can be done by offering a freebie ex: something that is of perceived value. In turn you can market to them your product or other products and recommending only what you believe will help provide a solution to their problems. Stay focused, and never quit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gray1980
    All of you seem to know exactly what your talking about.

    With that being said, all of you are millionaires?

    If you know exactly how to do email marketing and make even a decent info product. It wouldn't be hard or take very long to make hundreds of thousands.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gray1980
    Well? Is there something I'm missing?

    Also, arent you supposed to be n "authority figure" when your making an info product?

    What exactly makes you that authority figure when your selling info to people?

    For example, I know a ton about self development, but im not an authority figure in it of course, so why would people listen to me?

    Does it not really matter? If i write good content will it matter if Im not an authority in the subject?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

      If you know exactly how to do email marketing and make even a decent info product.
      Sorry if I'm just repeating what I said above, but again, my own belief is that for most people, most of the time, their chances of reaching the "hundreds of thousands" you mention are actually going to be significantly higher as affiliates than as product creators: that demands a far bigger skill set (not to mention the other ten reasons to which I linked, above, of course!).

      Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

      It wouldn't be hard or take very long to make hundreds of thousands.
      It's apparently hard enough for perhaps 95%-99% of people to fail at it (depending on whose figures you believe). Of course, some of that's attributable to the fact that they try to do it through product-creation rather than with the increased safety and security of affiliate marketing.

      Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

      Well? Is there something I'm missing?
      Rather a lot, I suspect.

      Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

      Also, arent you supposed to be n "authority figure" when your making an info product?
      I've never tried, but it must help? (Or at least, you'd better be perceived as one, and "being one" must surely be one of the ways of making it a little easier to be perceived as one?).

      Originally Posted by Gray1980 View Post

      If i write good content will it matter if Im not an authority in the subject?
      I don't think there can be a simple or universal answer to that question?

      It must surely depend on rather a wide range of factors, including the niche, the traffic demographics, the competition, the demand, your style and presentational skills, your credibility, your ability to attract affiliates, your other marketing skills, and so on?

      And those immediately obvious necessary skills are probably just the tip of the iceberg, really?

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  • Profile picture of the author yan1991
    I think make list is so difficult. We need more time and more money to buy PPC or Solo ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by yan1991 View Post

      I think make list is so difficult.
      Like everything else in internet marketing, it's a learning-curve, and a skill-set, and the people for whom it becomes profitable are those who acquire the requisite skills.

      Originally Posted by yan1991 View Post

      We need more time and more money to buy PPC or Solo ads.
      PPC and solo ads are just two of the multiple, different ways of attracting traffic. I don't use either. They may be beneficial to some people (though solo ad traffic opt-ins are typically of low responsivity) but neither is necessary at all, for successful list-building.

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by yan1991 View Post

      I think make list is so difficult. We need more time and more money to buy PPC or Solo ads.
      As Alexa said, making list building profitable takes a certain skillset. It's not rocket science or brain surgery, but it's not exactly "Easy Button" territory, either.

      PPC and Solo Ads are both ways to get people to a landing page with an opt-in form for list building. Unless you are extremely dialed in (there's that "skill" thing again), sending ad traffic directly to anything but the most impulse offers is a good way to burn through a big pile of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathan Fortune
    Of course it is possible.

    Allthough nowdays there are e-books given for free, there are also many people searching for e-books cause it is easier to get it and ''store'' it.

    If you pick a niche and find the right people to promote it, the success will follow.

    It is not the way you have to choose. It is the work you have to put.

    If you do what you decide, you will find better ways to make it bigger, day by day.

    Thing big, act always.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Sarlo
    Don't assume you just replicate what he did and make the same money - it depends the niche he's in, the problem he's solving in the ebook (maybe there's no other ebook that solves the problem) and who's he, maybe he's super famous and get tons of subscribers/visitors.

    But the short answer is yes, you can sell an ebook to your list, why not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jic
    This really works as more and more people are searching for valuable information online now. It's all depends on the niche, targeted market and the valuable information you provide. Definitely there are people buying information online as it's cheaper than physical books. They get those information instantly as well.

    The basic concept is still working. It depends how you work on your campaign.

    Cheers,
    Jic
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  • Profile picture of the author christynathan930
    Yeah, I think that that will work and also you can use Social media to for marketing your ebook and get more traffic too.
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