Where do you find a free gift to offer for opt-ins?

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by tomer20072

i want it to be aimed at beginner marketers.

That's why you have all these problems.

You're a beginner marketer, yourself (and there's nothing wrong with that!), but you shouldn't be trying to teach other beginner marketers.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

people said that's no good and i shouldn't use that, is that true?

Yes, completely true.

But you need to understand why that's true, in order to have much success with email marketing and in order to make it worth building a list.

You need your "freebie" to serve all these purposes, otherwise you'd be devaluing the list while you're building it.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

what else should i use if it's true?

Something you've written yourself which does serve all those purposes linked to just above (or something you employ a writer to produce for you, after checking carefully that s/he understand that serving those purposes is the whole objective.)

Originally Posted by tomer20072

(assuming i DON'T have the skills to a guide like that myself)

It's possible to outsource these things, but at the cost of having less control over the extent to which they serve those essential purposes, and at the cost of not learning how to do them yourself.

Income from internet marketing is inevitably skill-based: the more skills you acquire, yourself, the bigger your long-term income is likely to be.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

I basically just need a quality pdf that is up to date and teaches the basics of money making online and affiliate marketing at a beginner level

Ouch.

That isn't, by any stretch of the imagination "all you need".

Respectfully, if you think that, you shouldn't be involving yourself in MMO-related niches at all, and will be handicapping yourself by doing so.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

Oh and once you find it how do you make it available for your subscribers after they opt in? can you just send them the file on the first email using the autoresponder?

You can, but it would be extremely ill-advised to do so, because it wouldn't reach many in-boxes. Send them the download link in an email and let them take it themselves.

Respectfully, the fact that you're asking questions like this neatly illustrates why "teaching affiliate marketing" is a hopeless niche for you, Tomer, because the reality is that you can't even do affiliate marketing successfully without having mastered this basic stuff, let alone teach it. Why do you want to be teaching people something you haven't yet done yourself? Sorry, but it's hard to understand why you'd handicap yourself in this way, when there are hundreds of easier niches for you, in which you're far more likely to be successful.

All you're making sure of, doing this, is that you'll be competing for the same traffic with some of the world's most experienced, most successful and best-funded marketers. Do you really like those odds???

Originally Posted by tomer20072

I'm pretty confused here warriors

Respectfully, that's because you're trying to do something you probably shouldn't be trying to do. No personal criticism intended at all. This is, after all, the single most common mistake that aspiring marketers make, and the single commonest reason for their failures.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

i really want to get this going already

I'm sorry to hear it. You're stacking the deck very firmly against yourself, with this plan, rather than in your favor.

Seriously, it just makes no sense at all. Sorry.

.

[ 6 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9845611].message }}

davidbowie

9 years ago

" Tomer, Alexa is right in all aspects of what you`re trying to accomplish here. I have been doing internet marketing for 15 years now and if I had to do it all over again, I would go with my passion which is cars. Too late now, I`m stuck!

Find something that you`re passionate about and write a free report about it to give away to potential subscribers. As a rule, when someone opts into my list, they are taken to a thank page that says " Your Free Report Has Been Emailed To You" Then it rolls over to my one time offer page which is relevant to my free report.
Good luck

[ 2 ] Thanks
2 replies

Signature

I`m just here for the food!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9845680].message }}

discrat 9 years ago

I thought the exact same this as Lexy when I initially read your Post.

Honestly tomer, can you not see the irony here?

You are coming on here to ask a very basic question exhibiting that you are a Newbie yourself and then you are turning right back around and trying to teach Newbies.

That is kind of like the blind leading the Blind ! No ??

Build some credibility first

- Robert Andrew
- [ 2 ] Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9845835].message }}

tomer20072

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

That's why you have all these problems.

You're a beginner marketer, yourself (and there's nothing wrong with that!), but you shouldn't be trying to teach other beginner marketers.

.

Well i certainly can't teach expert marketers!
I actually didn't explain my idea correctly, my idea was actually to create a list aimed at people who are not marketers at all and are unfamiliar with the online moneymaking world, and build a list offering them a free guide that can teach them a whole buch of ways to make money online (get paid to anwer survays, listen to music, upload pictures etc etc.. not just affiliate marketing) and then from that point forward just have them on an email series with all kinds of affiliate offers that would appeal to begginers (like google sniper and stuff)

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes, completely true.

But you need to understand why that's true, in order to have much success with email marketing and in order to make it worth building a list.

You need your "freebie" to serve all these purposes, otherwise you'd be devaluing the list while you're building it.

i get the last part, but i stil don't get the first part (WHY a PLR is bad? i just have no chance of finding a plr that hits the mark?)

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Something you've written yourself which does serve all those purposes linked to just above (or something you employ a writer to produce for you, after checking carefully that s/he understand that serving those purposes is the whole objective.)

It's possible to outsource these things, but at the cost of having less control over the extent to which they serve those essential purposes, and at the cost of not learning how to do them yourself.

Income from internet marketing is inevitably skill-based: the more skills you acquire, yourself, the bigger your long-term income is likely to be.

Fine then, suppose i write my own PDF guide, i just upload it to some service and send them a download link on the welcome email?

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Ouch.

That isn't, by any stretch of the imagination "all you need".

Respectfully, if you think that, you shouldn't be involving yourself in MMO-related niches at all, and will be handicapping yourself by doing so.

I'm afraid you misunderstood the premise of this project
The idea is to build an email list of random people who have an interest in making money online (and are NOT experts by any stretch), lure them and engage them with a free and simple 'eye opening' guide so they know more about online money making options and of course so they know me, and pretty much right after that just start shooting them emails with affiliate offers every once in a while that has relevance to what i tought them and might actually help them!
obvioustly I'm not trying to create a perfectly optimised list with a 95% opening rate and a community of people who see me as their mentor, i'm simply looking to build an email list that can be profitable on it's own as a financial being, without a website, without a product of my own and without any additional bussiness to go along with it at all, just an email list that is able to produce SOME affiliate sales as it grows, and over time, with recurring comissions, bring in more money than what i would spend on it's leads, is that SO complicated to pull off?

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

You can, but it would be extremely ill-advised to do so, because it wouldn't reach many in-boxes. Send them the download link in an email and let them take it themselves.

Respectfully, the fact that you're asking questions like this neatly illustrates why "teaching affiliate marketing" is a hopeless niche for you, Tomer, because the reality is that you can't even do affiliate marketing successfully without having mastered this basic stuff, let alone teach it. Why do you want to be teaching people something you haven't yet done yourself? Sorry, but it's hard to understand why you'd handicap yourself in this way, when there are hundreds of easier niches for you, in which you're far more likely to be successful.

All you're making sure of, doing this, is that you'll be competing for the same traffic with some of the world's most experienced, most successful and best-funded marketers. Do you really like those odds???

Yeah that's what i thought too when i decided i'd rather promote money making products, but that's when i realised that there is probably a great section of the people out there that can be 'turned on' to online money making and become potential paying costumers if you just present them with an offer that promises them they can be tought how to make lots of money with no experiance if they just reach for their credit cards.. granted, none of this is coming from experience and it's all just my hipothetic logic, but is it THAT improbable that this could work like that? and if not that WHY not? i'd love your opinion but please explain what you state

Originally Posted by davidbowie

" Tomer, Alexa is right in all aspects of what you`re trying to accomplish here. I have been doing internet marketing for 15 years now and if I had to do it all over again, I would go with my passion which is cars. Too late now, I`m stuck!

Oh but there are so many awesome products to choose from in the money making niche! and as for today that's my biggest passion, and undoubtably my most potentially profitable hobbey(ain't no money in fishing!)

Originally Posted by davidbowie

Find something that you`re passionate about and write a free report about it to give away to potential subscribers. As a rule, when someone opts into my list, they are taken to a thank page that says " Your Free Report Has Been Emailed To You" Then it rolls over to my one time offer page which is relevant to my free report.
Good luck

Tnx man

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9846075].message }}

Alexa Smith

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by tomer20072

my idea was actually to create a list aimed at people who are not marketers at all and are unfamiliar with the online moneymaking world, and build a list offering them a free guide that can teach them a whole buch of ways to make money online (get paid to anwer survays, listen to music, upload pictures etc etc.. not just affiliate marketing) and then from that point forward just have them on an email series with all kinds of affiliate offers that would appeal to begginers (like google sniper and stuff)

Yes ... you and 10,000 other people have had that exact idea.

It won't work for you, and people here who have been through "your stage" a liong time ago and survived it (i.e. a small minority) are trying to tell you why, but I'm not sure you're hearing us.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

i stil don't get the first part (WHY a PLR is bad?

You will, if you read this post slowly and carefully and appreciate that a PLR cannot possibly serve those purposes, because it wasn't written for those purposes (unless perhaps your brother wrote one with you specifically in mind?

) so it devalues the list you're building.

I just can't say it more simply or clearly than that; sorry.

It's what I already said, above, and what other experienced, successful people posting here have already told you is correct.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

there are so many awesome products to choose from in the money making niche! and as for today that's my biggest passion, and undoubtably my most potentially profitable hobbey

That doesn't change the reality that the chances of you building a successful business that way are extremely low.

.

[ 1 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9846280].message }}

Declan O Flaherty

9 years ago

Some say the reason the failure rate is so damn high in this business, is because people don't take action. It's not. Not by a long shot. It's b'cause people are being led down the wrong path; listening to others who haven't a bloody clue what they're on about.

It's like a virus that spreads through the whole system.

That's why there's so much bullshit and nonsense floating about.

You're not to blame for this, of course, but you've just demonstrated that you're going to be part of the problem going forward.

Listen to the advice above, and for goodness sake... take it on board.

Give it some serious thought.

It's solid advice.

EDIT:

Just to add: Chances are you're going to ignore the above advice. If so, make sure to actually put the work in, and study marketing. Don't just waltz in and start claiming you're an expert. Treat it like a real business.

Maybe find a mentor, or a solid training program that'll give you a solid foundation. When you learn something, go put it into action and get a result. Only then should you teach it to someone else.

Just a thought.

[ 3 ] Thanks

Signature

Strong Men and Women put themselves in harms way
for the freedoms weak people give away for safety

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9845866].message }}

Max Greenflame

9 years ago

Originally Posted by tomer20072

As i said in my previous threads i'm trying to figure out how to set up my first email list, i want it to be designed to sell affiliate products in the money making niche, and i want it to be aimed at beginner marketers. I was brought up learning the thing to use for lureing people to opt in is a PLR ebook, but people said that's no good and i shouldn't use that, is that true? what else should i use if it's true? (assuming i DON'T have the skills to a guifde like that myself)
I basically just need a quality pdf that is up to date and teaches the basics of money making online and affiliate marketing at a beginner level that i can offer for free to all of my leads. is it possible to find something like that?
Oh and once you find it how do you make it available for your subscribers after they opt in? can you just send them the file on the first email using the autoresponder? (im with getresponse) or do you have to upload it somewhere and send them a dowload link or something?..
I'm pretty confused here warriors, please help me with this i really want to get this going already

There are different PLR products, good ones, bad ones, be careful what you buy. Search JVZoo for a high quality PLR ebook, you can even become their affiliate to see vendors' refund rates and make a conclusion. You'd better break a long ebook into a free PDF course that consists of 10-12 parts to send out within 10-12 days, 1 part per day. Each part should be 700-1000 words with pictures in PDF. You can find cool free images on sites like Pixabay to add to your PDF files. Insert your affiliate links into the text in your PDF, don't stuff affiliate banners in there, it's annoying. You can host your PDF series on sites like box.com (10GB free storage space). Write email messages to announce each part of your course and load them into your auto-responder service. In each message include the link to the corresponding document located on Box. As soon as your visitor signs up, redirect them to the thank you page asking to check out their in-box. Once they confirm the subscription, your auto-responder has to send them your message 1 with the link to the part 1. Don't blast affiliate offers to your email subscribers, it's spam, they'll opt-out really fast or just ignore your marketing attempts. Every time you knock on their door, bring some value. After 12 day e-course, don't start spamming, buy another ebook, tear it into short PDF reports to broadcast twice or thrice in a week, no more. Apply contextual advertising in your PDF files +1 or 2 not intrusive text ads at the bottom of the document. Keep it neat and sweet. Don't promote junk, read honest product reviews before picking up a product. Google Sniper sucks. Don't recommend get-rich-quick schemes, sneaky marketing tactics, black hat SEO software, scams, etc. You want people to keep buying from you, not to get burnt and run away.

[ 1 ] Thanks
2 replies

Signature

A Simple Way To Get Your Site Ranking And Banking (Video)

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9846389].message }}

JohnMcCabe

9 years ago

Tomer, I had a hunch, and you confirmed it.

You don't want to teach anybody anything. You just want a bunch of suckers you can spew affiliate offers at, hoping that some of the suckers will buy.

You don't appear to know enough about your subject to know if a product is "awesome" or not, unless you are defining "awesome" as "possibly profitable."

I also doubt you know enough to recognize an acceptable quality PLR ebook if it bit you on the butt, which is why you want someone here to hand it to you on a silver platter. Fits right in with the 'I don't want to learn or do any work, I just want to make money' attitude.

Oh, and those 10,000 other people who just want to target total newbies? I say she's off by a couple of orders of magnitude - it's probably more like 1,000,000.

Good luck - you are gonna need it...

[ 4 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9846752].message }}

tomer20072

9 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Tomer, I had a hunch, and you confirmed it.

You don't want to teach anybody anything. You just want a bunch of suckers you can spew affiliate offers at, hoping that some of the suckers will buy.

Well Obviously i didn't get up this morning with a sudden urge to teach people how to make money on the internet, wer'e all in this ultimately to make money. but i do understand that in order to achieve this goal you need to operate as if your main goal is to educate your subscribers and provide as much useful knowledge as possible, but in the six months i've been learning about affiliate marketing i have been subscribed to so many different email lists that shot so many spammy affiliate offers at me, can you blame me for thinking it would work? i got so many affiliate links sent to me from people that half the time i don't remember even subscribing to, it really seemed like that must be working great for somebody out there, why wouldn't i think it works?

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

You don't appear to know enough about your subject to know if a product is "awesome" or not, unless you are defining "awesome" as "possibly profitable."

Well obviosly that's what i mean by "awesome" and yes i certainly can evaluate how potentially profitable different products are and how much value they will hold for different audiences, don't make me into an idiot because i'm asking beginner questions, and i obviously don't know enough enough about the subject yet but that i can learn! the point of asking this is to know if i'ts worth learning in the first place, i've already stated i have no experience with email marketing and i'm just trying to wrap my mind on how to start a first campaign, and i don't deny that i don't know how to do this and i need help understanding what to do

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

Oh, and those 10,000 other people who just want to target total newbies? I say she's off by a couple of orders of magnitude - it's probably more like 1,000,000.

Good luck - you are gonna need it...

well bash a newb for asking newby questions man..
i understand i have a lot to learn guys, but i don't have any mentors or teachers for this in real life, i live in a non english speaking country and the only way for me to possibly learn the ropes in this bussiness in a is through the internet, and mostly through this wonderful warrior forum.
I understand from your reactions that my idea is completley redicolus and totally inapplicable, and i accept that because you guys are the experts after all, but i only ask if instead of just stating that it won't work you could help me understand specifically what parts of it were more wrong or misguided, so that i may produce my conclusions for when i eventuall do start a list.
1)Is the problem that it's way to spammy to start offering stuff right from the second email and everyone would just unsubscribe or throw me in the spam box?
2)Is the problem that people will only trust me enough to buy my offers unlessi have longer communications with them to teach them first hand?
what do you think is the most crucial reason why this won't work?

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9847341].message }}

quadagon

9 years ago

Originally Posted by tomer20072

i understand i have a lot to learn guys, but i don't have any mentors or teachers for this in real life, i live in a non english speaking country and the only way for me to possibly learn the ropes in this bussiness in a is through the internet, and mostly through this wonderful warrior forum.
I understand from your reactions that my idea is completley redicolus and totally inapplicable, and i accept that because you guys are the experts after all, but i only ask if instead of just stating that it won't work you could help me understand specifically what parts of it were more wrong or misguided, so that i may produce my conclusions for when i eventuall do start a list.

You obviously intelligent but you seem a bit blinded (almost that you've made your mind up to do this regardless). I hope not and I hope you will take the time to reread this thread in a couple of days after some of your emotion has died down.

Here's the issue we have (hope I'm not speaking out of turn) by your own admission you have a lot to learn. This looks like your first venture into internet marketing and your chosen business model is to teach people how to make money.

Problem is you are in no position to teach because you haven't studied and implemented. It takes time to read and learn and do and find out what works and what doesn't which models are legit and which 'gurus' and posters on this forum are full of be.

You don't have this learning curve yet.

Think of it this way would you teach a student a foreign language if you couldn't speak it yourself. Now think of it as a customer would you go to a learn German class taught by someone who doesn't speak German. Of course you wouldn't.

So what's the answer, easy pick a real business model that works online ie CPA, affiliate whatever you like and run a business. Make this businessman success over a period of time.

After you've learnt, implemented and experienced success and failure then you are in a position where your knowledge is valuable to others and you'll make a ton more money than sending 'by this sh*t' emails.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

I've got 99 problems but a niche ain't one

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9848107].message }}

JohnMcCabe

9 years ago

Originally Posted by tomer20072

Well Obviously i didn't get up this morning with a sudden urge to teach people how to make money on the internet, wer'e all in this ultimately to make money. but i do understand that in order to achieve this goal you need to operate as if your main goal is to educate your subscribers and provide as much useful knowledge as possible, but in the six months i've been learning about affiliate marketing i have been subscribed to so many different email lists that shot so many spammy affiliate offers at me, can you blame me for thinking it would work? i got so many affiliate links sent to me from people that half the time i don't remember even subscribing to, it really seemed like that must be working great for somebody out there, why wouldn't i think it works?

Sounds like there is a light at the end of the tunnel. If all you've seen are the snake oil salesmen and churn and burn artists, it's no wonder you might have concluded that's what works.

Way back when I got started, a popular tactic was to write a "how to get rich with affiliate marketing" guide or course, and end it with "now that you know how to get rich, you need something to promote, so promote this guide." The result was a bunch of people is situations similar to yours all pitching "how to get rich" courses to each other.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

Well obviosly that's what i mean by "awesome" and yes i certainly can evaluate how potentially profitable different products are and how much value they will hold for different audiences, don't make me into an idiot because i'm asking beginner questions, and i obviously don't know enough enough about the subject yet but that i can learn! the point of asking this is to know if i'ts worth learning in the first place, i've already stated i have no experience with email marketing and i'm just trying to wrap my mind on how to start a first campaign, and i don't deny that i don't know how to do this and i need help understanding what to do

I define an "awesome" product as one that solves a persistent problem or scratches a persistent itch for my chosen market, not which one happens to have the highest earnings per click. There are a lot of products, especially those targeting newbies, that sell very well, but are either outdated or outright crap. Promoting those to a list of people who trust you enough to buy from your recommendation is not the way to build a sustainable business.

Once you learn enough to tell the difference, buy study and experience, you might be equipped to pass on your hard-won wisdom to those with less experience than yourself. Now is not that time.

Originally Posted by tomer20072

well bash a newb for asking newby questions man..
i understand i have a lot to learn guys, but i don't have any mentors or teachers for this in real life, i live in a non english speaking country and the only way for me to possibly learn the ropes in this bussiness in a is through the internet, and mostly through this wonderful warrior forum.
I understand from your reactions that my idea is completley redicolus and totally inapplicable, and i accept that because you guys are the experts after all, but i only ask if instead of just stating that it won't work you could help me understand specifically what parts of it were more wrong or misguided, so that i may produce my conclusions for when i eventuall do start a list.
1)Is the problem that it's way to spammy to start offering stuff right from the second email and everyone would just unsubscribe or throw me in the spam box?
2)Is the problem that people will only trust me enough to buy my offers unlessi have longer communications with them to teach them first hand?
what do you think is the most crucial reason why this won't work?

My intent was not to bash. If it was, I would not be writing this now. Your response has earned you some points with me.

1) The problem isn't specifically with offering stuff from the second email. It's with doing nothing but offering stuff, and stuff that you aren't yet qualified to evaluate. Benjamin Franklin once said, "A cat that sits on a hot stove once will never do it again, nor will she sit on a cold one." It works the same way in email marketing. Sell someone an inferior product once, and they won't trust your recommendations again.

2) Unless you happen to be well-known in your chosen market, you have establish yourself as someone worth listening to. With email marketing, you usually do that by providing value before asking them to buy. One of the best ways for a newbie to do that is by using actual first-hand experiences. Case studies.

If online marketing really is your passion, not just making money by churning out "buy my stuff" emails, start by buying or acquiring one package or tutorial. If money is an issue, find a free tutorial - some of the top bloggers in the space post extensive trainings for free. Document your experience, what worked and what didn't. Speculate why. Compile it and use that as your opt-in incentive. Repeat the process with another package, one that carries a commission. If something does not work, don't be afraid to say so. The people on your list will learn to trust your recommendations, and some of them will buy just about anything you can honestly recommend.

That process also works quite well in non-'make money online' markets, as well.

I will repeat one thing I said earlier - good luck, because you will need it. But if you keep this kind of attitude, I think you have a good shot...

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9850622].message }}

bobby martin

9 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

.
.
1) The problem isn't specifically with offering stuff from the second email. It's with doing nothing but offering stuff, and stuff that you aren't yet qualified to evaluate. Benjamin Franklin once said, "A cat that sits on a hot stove once will never do it again, nor will she sit on a cold one." It works the same way in email marketing. Sell someone an inferior product once, and they won't trust your recommendations again.

2) Unless you happen to be well-known in your chosen market, you have establish yourself as someone worth listening to. With email marketing, you usually do that by providing value before asking them to buy. One of the best ways for a newbie to do that is by using actual first-hand experiences. Case studies.

If online marketing really is your passion, not just making money by churning out "buy my stuff" emails, start by buying or acquiring one package or tutorial. If money is an issue, find a free tutorial - some of the top bloggers in the space post extensive trainings for free. Document your experience, what worked and what didn't. Speculate why. Compile it and use that as your opt-in incentive. Repeat the process with another package, one that carries a commission. If something does not work, don't be afraid to say so. The people on your list will learn to trust your recommendations, and some of them will buy just about anything you can honestly recommend.

That process also works quite well in non-'make money online' markets, as well.

I will repeat one thing I said earlier - good luck, because you will need it. But if you keep this kind of attitude, I think you have a good shot...

Thanks for this post John... i am also a newb to IM and i guess i know what to do first(buy and evaluate products and programs) before i start giving out advice but wanted to ask if you know any good free tutorial that offers some training.

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9983311].message }}

JohnMcCabe

9 years ago

Originally Posted by bobby martin

Thanks for this post John... i am also a newb to IM and i guess i know what to do first(buy and evaluate products and programs) before i start giving out advice but wanted to ask if you know any good free tutorial that offers some training.

One place to start would be the Kindle marketplace on Amazon. Look for guides and manuals using their free promotional days. There are some really good ones available, along with a lot of crap. "Get rich on Kindle by slapping together a bunch of crummy books" was real popular for awhile.

You'll get some good practice sorting the wheat from the chaff.

[ 1 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9984706].message }}

bobby martin 9 years ago

thanks for that information Max because am also new to the whole internet marketing business
- Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9983238].message }}

davidbowie

9 years ago

Tomer20072, I suggest you do some research on words and what they actually mean. In your post you said "How can I lure people to buy my products?" Then your answer "Oh but there are so many awesome products to choose from in the money making niche! and as for today that's my biggest passion, and undoubtably my most potentially profitable hobbey(ain't no money in fishing!)" Correct me if I`m wrong but lure is a fishing term.

In reality, there is not many awesome products out there. And I`m not sure where you got that information from. It`s been my experience that most plr`s have a shelf life of about six months. ( Disclaimer: I said most) Hence, updates.

I still wish you well

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

I`m just here for the food!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9847885].message }}

M Thompson

9 years ago

Oh dear oh dear oh dear..here we go again

Tomer, these guys are giving you good advice.. Listen to them

You sound like someone who is believing the hype. IM Is isn't difficult or impossible. why are you focussed on becoming someone who doesn't have a real business that relies on selling things to other people who believe the hype.

Take a step back and learn to generate an income for yourself, that doesn't include selling other people stuff to people who know less than you..

Generate an income, get proof, keep screenshots etc. then when are earning a decent income then you can justifiably try to help people by teaching whats worked for you.

Even if it's only $1000 you can then honestly tell people how you made $1000 (hopefully it won't include "sell shit to suckers as the only step"

EDIT: have you actually learned to write emails that convert yet? because that my friend is the first skill you need to master if you want to sell stuff via email.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

FREE Marketing Community

If you are serious about online marketing come and Join our free community The Foundation

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9847932].message }}

bobby martin

9 years ago

Originally Posted by M Thompson

You sound like someone who is believing the hype. IM Is isn't difficult or impossible. why are you focussed on becoming someone who doesn't have a real business that relies on selling things to other people who believe the hype.

Take a step back and learn to generate an income for yourself, that doesn't include selling other people stuff to people who know less than you..

Generate an income, get proof, keep screenshots etc. then when are earning a decent income then you can justifiably try to help people by teaching whats worked for you.

EDIT: have you actually learned to write emails that convert yet? because that my friend is the first skill you need to master if you want to sell stuff via email.

ok i actually joined warrior forum recently(today actually) and i am interested in IM, so i decided to check out what a beginner in this business should know and do and thats how i turned up here....So i guess you are saying that we ( the newbs) should get some experience in other online business first like blogging ....right?

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9983285].message }}

Aaron Autrey

9 years ago

If you can't write one on your earn, you can try to find one that suits your needs on a PLR site, but really gaining experience and then writing your own is by far the best way to do this. You can brand yourself this way.

Thanks

Signature

The good thing about this business is that "People don't succeed cause they aim too high and miss, no, they aim too low... and hit. Most people don't aim at all." (Les Brown)

Not us... Not marketers. We live far above mediocrity. Always keep this in mind at all times..

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9850626].message }}

Where do you find a free gift to offer for opt-ins?

Trending Topics

Been a while! Any of you Old Timers here?

How much does the rebranding affect CR ?

Are billboards still effective in driving customers?

Boat and Jet Ski Rentals...... Door Hangers Effective?

Clickbank low cost recurring