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How To Safely Add E-Mail Addresses To An Autoresponder Who Haven't Opted In?

by IAmNumberFour
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Hi Everyone!

So I have the email addresses of hundreds of thousands of biz opp leads. As my company is having new leads opt in to the autoresponder, I'm sitting here with hundreds of thousands more I would like to add in. Is there an autoresponder company which is pretty lenient about manually adding email addresses who haven't exactly opted in? I know Aweber isn't at all. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan
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  • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
    This is just a bad idea overall.
    If you do decide to do it, make sure you use a completely standalone systems to the one being used to process all your new opt ins, as you could risk losing your account.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
    I also doubt you will find a place that will allow you to just upload 100K+ leads into their system.
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  • Profile picture of the author eccj
    What about adding 20-30 leads a day?
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      Originally Posted by eccj View Post

      What about adding 20-30 leads a day?
      Right. That should only take a few years to finish up. :-)

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    You could get a self hosted autoresponder and sign up to and smtp service like sendgrid, dyn, mandrill, amazon ses, etc... Will you get the account shutdown???
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  • Profile picture of the author nmwf
    Why not just ask them to subscribe to your newsletter??
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    • Profile picture of the author saqarra
      Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

      Why not just ask them to subscribe to your newsletter??
      And put on a price of $4,97 if content is top notch
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  • Profile picture of the author mirko76
    Though I think your idea is not very clever for several reasons, here is a way that could work:
    Get a new domain name and a virtual server. You will need it only for a few days so maybe you find a 30 day trial (for the server of course).
    Set up a mail server. Run a small script (python, php, whatever your programming guy knows best) that blasts out your mails. If you are lucky, the emails arrive before your domain and ip address is blacklisted everywhere. And if you're even more lucky, nobody will call his lawyer.
    The mails should make the people opt in for your "real" list, maybe in several steps.
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    • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
      Originally Posted by mirko76 View Post

      Though I think your idea is not very clever for several reasons, here is a way that could work:
      Get a new domain name and a virtual server. You will need it only for a few days so maybe you find a 30 day trial (for the server of course).
      Set up a mail server. Run a small script (python, php, whatever your programming guy knows best) that blasts out your mails. If you are lucky, the emails arrive before your domain and ip address is blacklisted everywhere. And if you're even more lucky, nobody will call his lawyer.
      The mails should make the people opt in for your "real" list, maybe in several steps.
      Make sure your can-spam compliant.

      Why would you say something like this, when it is so untrue?
      "And if you're even more lucky, nobody will call his lawyer"

      I've been buying co-reg list forever and this has never happened once!
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      • Profile picture of the author mirko76
        Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

        Why would you say something like this, when it is so untrue?
        "And if you're even more lucky, nobody will call his lawyer"
        Because I know people who do that constantly. But to be honest, this is Germany and I don't know what it's like "over the pond". I just thought you're even faster with the lawyers than us. Prejudices...
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        • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
          Originally Posted by mirko76 View Post

          Because I know people who do that constantly. But to be honest, this is Germany and I don't know what it's like "over the pond". I just thought you're even faster with the lawyers than us. Prejudices...
          If your can-spam compliant(U.S.), there's not much an individual can do other than complain.
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    • Profile picture of the author Valuable Solos
      Originally Posted by mirko76 View Post

      If you are lucky, the emails arrive before your domain and ip address is blacklisted everywhere.
      How does this happen?
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      • Profile picture of the author mirko76
        Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

        If your can-spam compliant(U.S.), there's not much an individual can do other than complain.
        Ah, I see. That's what I'm here for: learning. Thank you.

        Originally Posted by Valuable Solos View Post

        How does this happen?
        Spam detection is a pretty hard machine learning task. To keep the spam flood in check, mail providers use blacklists and whitelists. If a certain threshold marks the messages from an ip address as spam, that address will land on the blacklist. If you receive "spam folder reports" from your provider, you can probably see the reason the message went into spam. With my provider it is marked [S] for subject line, [T] for text analysis and [B] for blacklist. And of course the providers exchange lists to make life easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author IAmNumberFour
    Thank you everyone for your advice. Probably not a good idea to add in people who have not opted in. However, I think I'm going to try to segment the true opt-ins from the ones who have not quite done so, or remembered they did and see what happens. Good dialogue. Thanks!
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