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Where can I get a course or details of selling solo ads.

by Jongray
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I need specific information rather than a quick overall summary. What software to get and how to monitor the number of clicks you are selecting for clients. How to avoid duplication of clicks. Percentages etc. I am happy to pay for an over the shoulder comprehensive course and no doubt would several other warriors who want to get into this niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    Originally Posted by Jongray View Post

    I need specific information rather than a quick overall summary. What software to get and how to monitor the number of clicks you are selecting for clients. How to avoid duplication of clicks. Percentages etc. I am happy to pay for an over the shoulder comprehensive course and no doubt would several other warriors who want to get into this niche.
    Selling solo ads is a tough business. The more popular AR companies no longer allow it, so you would need to go with a self hosted AR like Arpreach or something similar.

    I don't know about courses about how to sell solos, but I do know there are quite a few coaches who will mentor you (for a fee, of course).

    If you decide to get a coach I would definitely do your due diligence, because there are lots of coaches out there who are teaching people the wrong things.

    If done right, solo selling can be very lucrative, but from what I hear it's not the easiest business to start up.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanJohnson1
      Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

      Selling solo ads is a tough business. The more popular AR companies no longer allow it, so you would need to go with a self hosted AR like Arpreach or something similar.

      I don't know about courses about how to sell solos, but I do know there are quite a few coaches who will mentor you (for a fee, of course).

      If you decide to get a coach I would definitely do your due diligence, because there are lots of coaches out there who are teaching people the wrong things.

      If done right, solo selling can be very lucrative, but from what I hear it's not the easiest business to start up.
      What the heck do you mean you cant sell solo ads with aweber or getresponse?
      How would they know you sold a solo ad? LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
        Originally Posted by RyanJohnson1 View Post

        What the heck do you mean you cant sell solo ads with aweber or getresponse?
        How would they know you sold a solo ad? LOL
        I don't know how they know, but they do. I would assume that they have some kind of system in place.

        Look, all I am saying is that I have spoken to dozens of folks who have lost their AR accounts for selling solos and doing ad swaps. The actual reason most are given is not that they were selling solos but that they were "promoting another's list." This is evidently considered spamming.

        I'm not saying that it's against their TOS, but I am saying that if you do it you are risking your account. I would never sell solos or do ad swaps with Aweber or GR simply because I know so many people who have had their accounts shut down.

        If you want to risk it, then by all means, but I would never advise anyone else to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    The most popular tracking software used by solo ad sellers is probably click magick, quality click control and my click boss.
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  • Profile picture of the author munir ahmed
    Hi
    That is a great move my man Jorgray,
    Getting in to the solo ad is a great start. I don't think you need a coach for that as its very straight forward.

    Firstly you will need a auto-responder to build your list. I would recommend Getresponse or Aweber. if you have something that suits you better then great.

    You will definitely need a tracker and Click-Magick is what i use and would highly recommend it.

    Know you need to build your list as they are the main essential tools. A website for a page or 2 can boost your business and have your testimonials in there.

    Getting to build your list is not hard,
    Speak to Vendors that you want a list and few vendors normally build your squeeze page for you and also help you build a bridge page that sits in between the squeeze page and auto-responder where you have a short video of your own and they know whos list they are optin in to.
    GREAT WAY TO START BUILDING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR LIST.

    Finally start promoting,
    Best place to start is Facebook. If you type SOLO AD TESTIMONIALS there are many groups and testimonials.
    Just start from there and follow what other top vendors are doing.

    Depending on how big you want to start your list in will be a little hefty bill but if promoted correctly then you will be known in the market more and more.

    Hope that gave you a little insight and i really wish you the best of luck.

    IF YOU DO START THEN DO GIVE ME A SHOUT AS IM A WEEKLY BUYER IN SOLO
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by munir ahmed View Post

      Hi
      That is a great move my man Jorgray,
      Getting in to the solo ad is a great start. I don't think you need a coach for that as its very straight forward.

      Firstly you will need a auto-responder to build your list. I would recommend Getresponse or Aweber. if you have something that suits you better then great.
      This is exactly why he should probably get a coach who is already successful in the solo industry. This information will only lead to him losing his Aweber and GR accounts.

      You CANNOT sell solo ads with Aweber & GR! Also, you cannot do ad swaps with them. They consider it spamming. Most AR companies do. You can take your chances if you wish, but it'll only be a matter of time before they drop the hammer.

      PLEASE do your due diligence before getting into the solo selling industry.

      It is VERY difficult and there is TONS you will have to know.

      You will need to set up your own AR on your own server and for that you will need lots of technical knowledge and it is very costly. Once you get over those obstacles, you will have to deal with very stiff competition.

      My advice is to go the Affiliate Marketing route. I used to sell solos and I quit over a year ago because once the main ARs stopped allowing it it just became too much of a project and I did not want to deal with getting domains whitelisted, worrying about spamming complaints, etc. I realized pretty quickly that I had no idea what I was doing even though I had been doing it for over a year.

      Most people have absolutely no idea what is involved with selling solos. If they did they would never get started. It's also very difficult to maintain a responsive list when selling solos. Relationship building is practically non-existent because you are too busy sending out offer after offer to fill your click orders.

      I'm not saying that you shouldn't try it if that's what you really want to do, but please get the right facts before starting to sell clicks.
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      • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
        Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

        You CANNOT sell solo ads with Aweber! Also, you cannot do ad swaps with Aweber and GetReponse. They consider it spamming. Most AR companies do.
        Do they disclose this on their sites? I have accounts with both and don't ever remember reading such.

        Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

        My advice is to go the Affiliate Marketing route.
        This could be very wise advice. I make far more per click, monetizing data by promoting PPL (Pay Per Lead) than the rates that solo ad clicks are sold for. However, no reason why you can't do sols ads/other marketing.

        I'm real big on email, as your building asset vs other marketing, so I say go for it, if after you do your due diligence and you think you can make it work.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
          Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

          Do they disclose this on their sites? I have accounts with both and don't ever remember reading such.
          I don't know whether they disclose this in their TOS or not, but I speak to a lot of solo sellers on Facebook and the sheer number of sellers who have lost their accounts due to selling solos and doing ad swaps leads me to believe that whether it's stated on their site or not, it's not a very good idea. The bottom line is that it really doesn't matter whether they state it in their TOS or not, they can cut ties with you at any time, and for any reason.

          This is one of the main reasons I don't sell solo ads. I know that I would have to get my own AR software, my own dedicated server, and who knows what else to do it right and create a sustainable long term business.

          I have done the math and my EPC from promoting affiliate products is much higher than I could ever earn from selling clicks. So I am going where the money is for me.

          Also, when you sell solos you have to constantly replenish your list, that means adding hundreds of new subscribers every day. The way my list is now, I could go weeks without adding any new subscribers at all and still have a very profitable list.

          Solo sellers typically achieve 2-3% open rates and 1-2% CTR on their broadcasts, so it's basically a numbers game. It's just not something I want to get into. That doesn't mean that it isn't highly profitable for others, though.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
            Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

            I don't know whether they disclose this in their TOS or not, but I speak to a lot of solo sellers on Facebook and the sheer number of sellers who have lost their accounts due to selling solos and doing ad swaps leads me to believe that whether it's stated on their site or not, it's not a very good idea. The bottom line is that it really doesn't matter whether they state it in their TOS or not, they can cut ties with you at any time, and for any reason.

            This is one of the main reasons I don't sell solo ads. I know that I would have to get my own AR software, my own dedicated server, and who knows what else to do it right and create a sustainable long term business.

            I have done the math and my EPC from promoting affiliate products is much higher than I could ever earn from selling clicks. So I am going where the money is for me.

            Also, when you sell solos you have to constantly replenish your list, that means adding hundreds of new subscribers every day. The way my list is now, I could go weeks without adding any new subscribers at all and still have a very profitable list.

            Solo sellers typically achieve 2-3% open rates and 1-2% CTR on their broadcasts, so it's basically a numbers game. It's just not something I want to get into. That doesn't mean that it isn't highly profitable for others, though.
            Totally false information. The reason some solo ad sellers get their AR accounts banned is because of deceptive and get rich quick types of subject lines and emails. It has NOTHING to do with selling solo ads. The ones that get banned are the ones that don't have a clue how to run a solo ad business or are willing to do ANYTHING to get that click.

            Legitimate solo ad sellers have no problems with keeping AR accounts.

            Plus.... Are all the solo ad sellers in the Rolodex you are selling in your sig self hosted???

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            • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
              Originally Posted by Rob Whisonant View Post

              Totally false information. The reason some solo ad sellers get their AR accounts banned is because of deceptive and get rich quick types of subject lines and emails. It has NOTHING to do with selling solo ads. The ones that get banned are the ones that don't have a clue how to run a solo ad business or are willing to do ANYTHING to get that click.

              Legitimate solo ad sellers have no problems with keeping AR accounts.

              Plus.... Are all the solo ad sellers in the Rolodex you are selling in your sig self hosted???

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              It's not false information at all. I know dozens of legitimate solo sellers who have lost their AR accounts simply for selling solo ads. I find it very hard to believe that all of the people I know were abusing their AR accounts or practicing shady techniques just to get clicks.

              I just got done talking to well over a hundred solo sellers while compiling my rolodex, and yes, the majority of them are using their own self-hosted ARs. Those that aren't are taking a chance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jongray
      Thanks for that Munir. I already have a supply of subscribers from solo ads and a large amount available from other sources, but I am hesitant to invest in the mega numbers unless I can sell them on as solo ads, otherwise I will be jamming up my AR and paying more for the extra subscribers. My best CTR at the moment is 43% so something seems to be working.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnlagoudakis
    Hi Jongray,

    If you want a long-term business, I'd keep right away from solo ads and adswaps.

    When I first started out list building back in 2008, adswaps and solo ads were awesome. Today they are all a waste of time, effort and money.

    The reason is that most people cut corners and send you fraudulent traffic, or if it is real traffic, it is people that are burnt out with so many offers and redirects that they are not responsive.

    There's a lot of other better ways to make money online and to build your list. Trust me.
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