Sending 1.5 million emails safely

sendizo

7 years ago

Originally Posted by serializer

1. is it best to find a provider which I can send emails directly to the remote host (port 25 open)?

I think you will need your own IPs/SMTP to send. I'm not aware of any ESP, SMTP provider will allow to import and mail.

Originally Posted by serializer

2. should I send all at once or divide over a period?

you can not chunk them all. split the list to smaller lists and campaigns.

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3. should I change my IP from time to time?

should monitor your IP/Domain reputation. Good Reputation=Good Delivery Rates.

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4. should I edit TXT records to make sender check more clear?

your mail server must be 100% authenticated and properly configured.

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5. should I use a good temporary domain to send from (but different reply to) to prevent destroying my primary domain?this is a bad practice, spamming behavior. spam filter can detect that.

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serializer

7 years ago

Thank you for reply.

1. got it
2. how many is a smaller list? What is the chunk size you recommend? Remember I have 1.5m so I cannot send too small chunks.
3. any good link or service for monitoring that you recommend?
4. ok
5. but how smart is it? I am thinking about using a new domain, email on that domain and then just redirect email and domain to real site in the background. Just to avoid any risk of destroying my domain

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fago 7 years ago

If you already have the server or the ESP, check the following:

Reputation of IP
Age of the domain
Quality of the list (DD.BB) "Hygiene"
What you want to send
Email subject
Sender
Configuring your server

All this must be seen
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fago

7 years ago

Originally Posted by serializer

Thank you for reply.

1. got it
2. how many is a smaller list? What is the chunk size you recommend? Remember I have 1.5m so I cannot send too small chunks.
3. any good link or service for monitoring that you recommend?
4. ok
5. but how smart is it? I am thinking about using a new domain, email on that domain and then just redirect email and domain to real site in the background. Just to avoid any risk of destroying my domain

I will say a few words about your answers and questions

1- OK, you have a server

2-150k

3- I can offer a monitoring service and reputation increased in case of a fall or if you need IP warmUp,
For every 8 IP's, High Volume, reputation 94-100

4- your mail server must be 100% authenticated and properly configured.

5-NEVER use a new domain ... The domain must have a minimum of 6 months of life ...

Otherwise your service, IP's, domain and your name will be here: https://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/

If you want to be a candidate for rokso? go ahead

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DIABL0

7 years ago

Originally Posted by fago

5-NEVER use a new domain ... The domain must have a minimum of 6 months of life ...

Otherwise your service, IP's, domain and your name will be here: https://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/

If you want to be a candidate for rokso? go ahead[/B]

That is total BS!!!

You're not going to end up on the ROSKO list because your domain is less than 6 months old.

For the most part, to get on ROSKO it's because your an IP provider to a significant amount of high volume mailers.

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cynthiaSEL

7 years ago

Originally Posted by serializer

I have built up a list of emails from purchasing and scraping web sites
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Any ideas or other feedback on this?

Seems to me that you meet the definition of spam. Unsolicited commercial email from people who do not know you or have any connection with you. That's not permission based email marketing anyway.

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serializer

7 years ago

Thanks for your feedback cynthiaSEL. I guess our business is completely different. Lets give you an example of my business;

Lets say I have a unique door handle that I have developed for cars. Now, this list I have been collecting is to car door manufacturers. My message is relevant to what they do. I have been collecting these from websites to ensure I get to car door manufacturers - it is in my interest that the message is relevant to the business. The alternative would be to call or send a snail mail to the car door manufacturer - but as you know it is not efficient and it is costly.

What you seem to do is selling to private users. And you have no idea if you send an email if it is relevant to them - and you know nothing about the end user from just an email. Even if you know who the customer was you may not need to know if they are interested in the topic you sell.

I am just saying it is a difference between targeting B2B than normal consumers because I know who the end user is and I know if it is related to the end user business.

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fago

7 years ago

Originally Posted by serializer

Thanks for your feedback cynthiaSEL. I guess our business is completely different. Lets give you an example of my business;

Lets say I have a unique door handle that I have developed for cars. Now, this list I have been collecting is to car door manufacturers. My message is relevant to what they do. I have been collecting these from websites to ensure I get to car door manufacturers - it is in my interest that the message is relevant to the business. The alternative would be to call or send a snail mail to the car door manufacturer - but as you know it is not efficient and it is costly.

What you seem to do is selling to private users. And you have no idea if you send an email if it is relevant to them - and you know nothing about the end user from just an email. Even if you know who the customer was you may not need to know if they are interested in the topic you sell.

I am just saying it is a difference between targeting B2B than normal consumers because I know who the end user is and I know if it is related to the end user business.

Although your intention is only the target audience

Not Justified, Still Unsolicited Bulk Email (SPAM)

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fago

7 years ago

Since you have said that you will do with your list, I will answer your questions one after another

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fago

7 years ago

Originally Posted by serializer

1. is it best to find a provider which I can send emails directly to the remote host (port 25 open)?

In your condition NO, why?

Your list must be filtered, your list may lose 30-40% of subscribers

Originally Posted by serializer

2. should I send all at once or divide over a period?

It is best to divide it into fractions of 150k

So you will know which are the best fractions of your list and vice versa

Originally Posted by serializer

3. should I change my IP from time to time?

What do you mean? Already have a server ready to send?

Originally Posted by serializer

4. should I edit TXT records to make sender check more clear?

Any ideas or other feedback on this?

You must edit it, according to the best practices of the industry

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5. should I use a good temporary domain to send from (but different reply to) to prevent destroying my primary domain?

The domain only suffers with the following:

Dirty List
Spam lyrics or words

And apparently your list must be pretty dirty, provoking that what you want to sell becomes SPAM characteristic words, and after you realize the damage you have done, you will not have good results in serious companies

You will also damage the reputation of the product without first selling it

You need to tell what platform you are using

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serializer

7 years ago

1. What does my condition mean?
2. ok
3. I am looking at hiring a server for this with port 25 open and use my existing Windows software (Maillist King) to send out emails
4. What is best practice? Is adding SPF increasing the reliability or is not anyone using it?
5. There is a probability that the list is dirty as part of it is purchased. I did check some emails though and it seems valid. I will not use any Spam lyrics. I will just offer my hardware and be 100% honest about the company behind it.

Before sending it out the homepage will be ready and you will order the product from the web site. The website will be 100% serious - as the product. It will be a good product that offer some added value in a segment where there is only one competitor but a much higher price.

As the product is new and quite revolutionary I will post it on tech sites as well.

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fago

7 years ago

Originally Posted by serializer

1. What does my condition mean?
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1- You have a list of very poor quality and you are just starting ... You are sentenced to death in Email Marketing

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3. I am looking at hiring a server for this with port 25 open and use my existing Windows software (Maillist King) to send out emails

It is not convenient to use Maillist King, because their heads are programmed as SPAM, in all filters

And as you send a high volume of emails, your message will be filtered in the first 65,000 emails and you will lose the investment, among other things

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4. What is best practice? Is adding SPF increasing the reliability or is not anyone using it?

The best practices are:

Authentication
SPF
Sender ID
Dkim
Domainkey
Double Opt-in
Opt-in
ZERO words with spam characteristics
Domain with reputation
IP's with reputation
Serious Software
Unsubscribe links
Email Headers for Abuse
Email for Abuse support
FBL
Rapid response to declining IP reputation

These are the essential and basic practices

Originally Posted by serializer

5. There is a probability that the list is dirty as part of it is purchased. I did check some emails though and it seems valid. I will not use any Spam lyrics. I will just offer my hardware and be 100% honest about the company behind it.

Before sending it out the homepage will be ready and you will order the product from the web site. The website will be 100% serious - as the product. It will be a good product that offer some added value in a segment where there is only one competitor but a much higher price.

As the product is new and quite revolutionary I will post it on tech sites as well.

My experience says that your list does not work, and that it will cause problems

In addition, verification systems DO NOT WORK

You need a company that day by day in the business of Email Marketing, so that you check the list and clean it

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serializer 7 years ago

Originally Posted by fago

You need a company that day by day in the business of Email Marketing, so that you check the list and clean it

So, I need your help to send and monitor this? Can you do this or can you recommend me to any company that can help me with this?
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- fago 7 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by serializer
  
  So, I need your help to send and monitor this? Can you do this or can you recommend me to any company that can help me with this?
  
  Let's get to work, you decide when you need it
  
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serializer

7 years ago

3. might be good depending on cost. I will only send out email one time for each email. After that it will only be sent (from Amazon SES or SendGrid) for existing customers.

5. I think my domain will just pass the 6 months mark when I am ready to send (in about 2 months).

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