Are 'Guaranteed Clicks Solo Ads' a Scam?

by Nathan Isaac 62 replies
So I've been doing some research into solo ads for quite some time.

Spent money here and there to test out many things.

I've also looked deeply into the buyers and sellers of these so-called solo ads.

For those who don't know, if someone has an email list of 100,000 subscribers, you can buy a solo ad which will be a stand alone email of yours to be sent out to that list of 100,000.

Now to me, it makes no logical sense how anyone can GUARANTEE clicks.

Everyone seems to get their rocks off about guaranteed clicks, pointless leads, or non profitable sales.

What you need to be getting your rocks off on is profitable ROI.

You have no control whatsoever of your list and if they choose to open, or let alone, click the link inside.

You have absolutely no control on that.

Unless.....

You have full control of that list yourself.

After talking to many marketers, the closest any true honest marketer will say, is they have a good estimation on open rate, and possible clicks.

None of them ever send out an email to their list knowing they are going to get even one click.

They only have an assumed estimation.

Places like Udimi.

Don't waste your money.

You'll get clicks. You'll get leads that are useless. Depending on how much and often you spend, you might get a sale or two.

Just not enough to make a profit.

Let's paint that picture.

You: $500 solo ad budget

Me: Selling 1,000 clicks for $500

$0.50 per click. Not bad at all.

If I send your "solo ad" to my list of a million subscribers (supposedly)

I some how magically know that you'll get 1,000 clicks.

Because I'm a phsychic and all....

But we'll take it one step further.

Because you spent so much. I also know that you are selling a $47 product, with an upsell to another product for $197.


I go to my circle of scammy Solo ad sellers (more on this later)

I say I need a purchase of a product with the upswell.

The other party uses a system like HideMyAss, purchased your product and upsell, and you're happy ass hell.

- You paid for 1,000 clicks.
- You received a fair amount leads. Say, 200 leads. +$1.00 per lead.
- you also get one sale + an upsell. For a total of close to $250 (you can do the math for exact numbers....)

You walk away only having spent a little over $250 + plus a bunch of "leads". (More like dead end leads)

You think you scored pretty good buying the 1,000 leads for only $500, which only cost $250 after your sales.


And as for me... I walked away with:
- $250 in my pocket.
- You'll leave a glowing review for others to take part in my scam.

It's all smooth sailing for me and my fake clicks, leads, and sales.


So there you have it. Any real person with a real list cannot guarantee clicks.

Places like SelfGrowth.com or ArcaMax who have solo ads for $1,500 - $3,000 will NEVER

**Wait, I want to make sure you read that**


Places like SelfGrowth.com or ArcaMax who have solo ads for $1,500 - $3,000, will NEVER EVER at any point in their sales process, guarantee you clicks.

Why?

Because no really marketer with a real list can ever guarantee clicks.


Oh yeah, and if you look into the reviews of people on Udimi, you'll quickly see how those glowing reviews are from fellow solo ad sellers.

It's like a carnival and all the Carnies are backing everyone up to rip you off of your money.


What are your thoughts?

Maybe some folks who have extensive knowledge can put in some information about how one can guarantee the control of what their subscribers do on the other end of the internet.
#email marketing #ads #clicks #guaranteed #scam #solo
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  • Profile picture of the author p30webhost
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    • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
      Originally Posted by p30webhost View Post

      very good thank you
      This could be the best post on Warrior Forum of 2017.
      Thank you for contributing so much to our community.
      You should pat yourself on the back.
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  • Profile picture of the author TOPLife Solo Ads
    You can guarantee clicks based on previous stats. If you know that your list converts at about 6% daily Click through rate then you know how many clicks you can sell, or how fast you can sell them.
    Anyhow, to send exactly 1000 clicks you don't need magic or to be a psychic, you just need to use Clickmagick or any tracking and redirecting service
    • Profile picture of the author heaththompson
      This is typical of all types of marketing and sale generation. I offer telemarketing to businesses and often win contracts that I have no experience in their specific field, but it makes very little difference, I know that I simply have to contact the people to find the one who is looking right now, or soon. It's the old saying "you have to put wood on the fire to make it burn."
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  • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
    I think its very easy to guarantee clicks if you have a good baseline on how your lists responds to certain types of advertisements.

    If I have a list of lets say 100,000 subscribers, and any biz opp offer I send them generates me at least 10,000 clicks, and has done so for the last 4 years, offering 5000 guaranteed clicks would make perfect sense.

    And if for whatever reason something goes catastrophically wrong, I can always send them a partial of full refund to compensate them, no harm no foul.

    The main issue with solo ads is that many of the leads and clicks are the same leads that get pummeled with the same offers over and over again. On top of that, in my experience, most people who are buying solo ads dont have a clue how to write good copy or convert hot leads, therefore leaving them in the negative.

    People who truly understand lead generation do it themself, using a variety of traffic sources, including email, sms, social media, ppc, ppv and more. They generate their own leads and sell them their own products and services, or they sell the leads for cash, mostly depending on the niche and amount of fields gathered for each lead.

    Solo ads are just a big circle jerk in my opinion. I am sure plenty of people will disagree with me.
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    • Profile picture of the author TOPLife Solo Ads
      I can understand your point of view and actually there is a lot of distrust in the industry given some wrong practices been applied by some vendors, but like in any kind of service, there are good vendors and bad vendors.

      The point is to find a good Solo Ad vendor, which means a real service provider focused on providing a honest and valuable service
  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well if you have a good solo ad provider this thing will work
  • Profile picture of the author Ellen Chedid
    Excellent post. Thank you for the insight
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Isaac
      Originally Posted by mdallen View Post

      The OP has obviously never been around the solo ad industry and it is easy to distrust what we are ignorant of. Fear of the unknown is a very basic human quality. It is so weird that all the people making money online (Millionaires) swear by solo ads... I wonder how they made all that money getting scammed by solo ad folks? Maybe there are bad people around but there are plenty of good eggs out there too. Most solo ads over deliver. You can see a ton of solo ad sellers who have good reviews on Facebook. There are a ton of people reporting that they made more than they spent... This does not seem consistent with your OP. It sounds like you did not do research and just want to fear monger. This seems unkind to speak evil of people as a group without knowing them. I did some research and found these are the top trustworthy sellers
      Traffic Tutor: Top 10 Trustworthy Solo Ad Sellers
      Hope some of you run away from the fear and progress in 2017
      You make some great points.

      There's two big people who I know of who talk highly of Soloads, Matt Lloyd and Daegan Smith.

      Both highly recommend places like SelfGrowth and ArcaMax.

      Those are the two biggest they use.

      Neither of the two ever guarantee clicks. One video, Matt Lloyd even shows how he spent (I think) $1,000 and not one sale.

      They also talk about options maybe reaching about 25%. Definitely not 50-75%.

      Now I've seen that list of Solo Ads you provided I my research.

      I'm currently going to test out some.

      Here's what I find hilarious in many of the "reviews" from people.

      They'll put their stats like this.
      Clicks ordered: 200 (probably cost about $200)
      Clicks received: 250
      Optin Rate: 47%
      Sales: YES!! Or they'll say 3 Sales.


      Now why wouldn't they say that they made a profit?

      That's because none of them ever do.

      If you made a Profit, I'm sure many people would say that.

      So very few people ever do.

      That's because they probably did make one sale or maybe 3.

      But when your product only sells for $9.97, it's hard to be excited when you spent $200.

      I'll continue to throw money away if that's what it takes to get to the truth.

      Someone has to lead the way and if that means it has to be me, then so be it.

      When I do decide to fork out the money for SelfGrowth, I'll let you know how that goes.
  • Profile picture of the author martbost
    Just to put my 20 or 30 cents worth in on this thread...

    I have been a Solo provider for a few years now and have backed off of it simply because I am more focused on product creation and marketing to my lists with my preferred style.

    I can say that I have used Quality Click Control on dedicated hosting for a while and regularly offered Tier-1 guaranteed clicks as I had complete control over the country designations in the link management. Any non-tier 1 countries would be redirected to other campaigns that I was fulfilling orders for.

    The business of providing a guarantee of the clicks is quite possible by using the right rotators and click management solutions.

    My biggest obstacle during that time was keeping enough steady lead flow inbound daily to account for the wash rate of unsubscribes in some of my other list segments. I eventually moved towards grooming and maintaining my lists for my own use rather than "pimping out" my lists with other customer's offers.
    • Profile picture of the author Zoe_21
      Originally Posted by martbost;

      My biggest obstacle during that time was keeping enough steady lead flow inbound daily to account for the wash rate of unsubscribes in some of my other list segments. I eventually moved towards grooming and maintaining my lists for my own use rather than "pimping out" my lists with other customer's offers.
      Were the inbound lead flow aware (and agreed) that they were opting in to be pimped out for financial gain?
  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    I see ones all the time with a ROI listed. The Facebook groups are called solo ad testimonials. You can guarantee clicks only if you know what percentage of your list will open and repeat until you deliver the quantity. That is why you never see clicks ordered 100 clicks deliver 100... There's usually some spill over because it is not an exact science without a crystal ball.... Solo ad people who under deliver don't end up staying in business...
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan Isaac
      Lol. That's exactly my point.

      Read those testimonials. They're garbage and pretty much tell you nothing.

      If you read between the lines you'll actually see that they say they made no profit.


      A good testimonial would be:

      I've ordered with Johns Solos for the past 6 months.

      I've invested $1,257 (screenshot of invoices)

      I've made over 500 leads for my business. (Screenshot of tracking link stats)

      2 of which I've personally brought into my business.

      I also made 27 sales for a total profit of $2,631 (screenshot of sales)



      Where are those reviews? There are no actual good reviews.

      There's only a smoke and mirror show going on, which I described in my original post, and good people are being taken advantage of.
  • Profile picture of the author mdallen
    The site does not allow that format. If everyone is losing money buying these ads, then they would stop. You can't keep putting money in forever without getting a return. I would never invest in something that I was losing money on for long term. How could I? Maybe we could start a new FB group solo ad testimonials with screenshots and sales info... That way we could see the truth very clearly. I think it is important to note they guarantee clicks not sales. If your site is not converting, no ad will help until it has what it needs to make sales
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