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Hi guys,

I was wondering what you found to be the best mass mailing software?

So far have looked at;

Atomic Mail Sender
Gammadyne Mailer
Awebber

they are the only ones that I've looked at. More interested in the first two as they seem to offer more freedom and less restrictions.

Anyone you would recommend?
#email #mass #software
  • Profile picture of the author ciaral
    Hi @affdaft,

    Have you taken a look at this thread?

    http://www.warriorforum.com/email-ma...-services.html

    Check it out! Those Warriors have a really good thing to say about your inquiry.
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    • Profile picture of the author affdaft
      Hi @ciaral,

      Thanks for your reply I will take a look I searched on the forum using keyword search and read most of the things but must have missed that!
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    • Profile picture of the author affdaft
      I just clicked the link it said the thread has been removed not sure if error on my side. Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author ciaral
        Hi again,

        No it was an error on our side. I went ahead and fixed it for you Can you check if you can now browse through that thread?
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        • Profile picture of the author affdaft
          That's it fixed now @ciaral thanks for that!
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  • Profile picture of the author jnana
    Hey affdaft, the well known mass emailing platform out there are EasySendy Pro, MailChimp, GetResponse and many!
    I would suggest you can go ahead exploring EasySendy Pro email platform since you can get started using multiple SMTP servers at the same time.
    The best part is that you can choose the SMTP of your choice and start shooting your bulk emails via two or more servers, this also helps grabbing many link clicks and email opens! EasySendy Pro has tailor made pricing plans for every business which is why the budget spent on emailing is totally optimized!
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  • Profile picture of the author rritz
    Hi OP, you are mixing up a few things here ...

    Aweber is a fully hosted solution while these other two are only the apps to create sign up forms, organize lists and compose & design mails. With these two you will still need an additional service that actually sends your emails. An smtp relay for instance.
    And while the app itself is cheap the smtp relays probably won't be unless you send less than 10 000 or 15 000 emails a month.

    Unless you have a VPS with powermta or some such service installed, your own IPs and DNS and rDNS settings all good (spdf records & dkim) you will not be able to send mass email via your own smtp server

    The thing with smtp relays is you always pay per email sent
    with aweber or get response you pay more if you go over a subscriber limit
    with mailchimp you have both email sending and subscriber limits that will cause you to pay more.
    and there are at least thirty more autoresponder companies you could look at
    and at least twenty smtp relay services you can use

    The real question is - what do you want to do? Have lots of subs? Send lots of mails? Both?
    Are you doing affiliate marketing? Sending adult offers, forex, make money online, dating?

    (These are things that will violate the TOS of many autoresponder companies. AND smtp relays too for that matter)

    So even if you buy the Atomic mail sender and then send via amazon ses (I don't know if it is even possible, but let's say it is and amazon is the cheapest mail relay I know) you are still not "Free". You are still dependent on third party (=amazon) and they are pretty strict.
    Just one wrong move and you are banned and account closed on amazon. And you will find it very hard to open another account. In fact, if amazon detects just the slimmest connection between your old and new account they will immediately ban your new account too.

    Most mail relays are equally strict because they have their sending reputation to protect.

    So do autoresponder companies, but here you will find some that are less strict (like aweber) and will allow you to do things that others won't

    As I said, first know what you want to do, then know what you need for it, then start looking for the service that will provide what you need

    Originally Posted by affdaft View Post

    Hi guys,

    Atomic Mail Sender
    Gammadyne Mailer
    Awebber
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    • Profile picture of the author affdaft
      Thanks for your reply @rritz.

      I would be looking to send eventually approx 100,000 emails per month.

      I have two VPS's but these are not used for emailing purposes do the VPS's need to be specifically for emailing?

      I would be looking to send make money online related offers, I was thinking of using Atomic Mail Sender and MailJet as SMTP is this something that could work?
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      • Profile picture of the author rritz
        I am no expert at mailing servers, but what you will need is to have your DNS settings all correct for mailing: SPF records, DKIM records, rDNS, maybe DMARC
        you will probably need more than one IP
        you will need a host for your server that will give you new IPS if you get blacklisted
        not all hosts allow their servers to be used as mailing servers

        100K emails a month is not a big volume, I see no problem there but Make Money Offers will get you banned from most of the smtp relays that I know of. I don't remember if I tried MailJet, but I got banned by all smtp relays except: MailGun, Mailrelay and SendPulse
        you would have to read MailJet's TOS or acceptable use policy. If they say: "No work from home, get rich quick, business opportunities ..." etc then you will get banned. Most likely before you can even send out your first email. I think they will not allow it, but make sure for yourself.

        You can also try to import subs into aweber, I did it, but some were imported and some were not, it is for aweber to decide. If they fear your list will produce bounces and complaints they won't let you import.

        Originally Posted by affdaft View Post

        Thanks for your reply @rritz.

        I would be looking to send eventually approx 100,000 emails per month.

        I have two VPS's but these are not used for emailing purposes do the VPS's need to be specifically for emailing?

        I would be looking to send make money online related offers, I was thinking of using Atomic Mail Sender and MailJet as SMTP is this something that could work?
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        • Profile picture of the author affdaft
          "I am no expert at mailing servers, but what you will need is to have your DNS settings all correct for mailing: SPF records, DKIM records, rDNS, maybe DMARC
          you will probably need more than one IP
          you will need a host for your server that will give you new IPS if you get blacklisted
          not all hosts allow their servers to be used as mailing servers"

          This is the part I am unsure about or know how to check appropriately. Will MailGun, Mailrelay etc have all this or do you mean by my personal IP address?

          I messaged you also.

          Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    What type of mass mailing are you referring to?

    Most members here do mainstream email marketing and develop their own opt-in lists. If this is what you are doing, there are many well-known/reliable ESPs like aweber, getresponse, mailchimp, etc... You just need to choose one that's right for you, as some have certain restrictions.

    Then you have those that monetize purchased email data. Which is a whole other ball game and there is much more involved. Many use high-end mailers that you have to lease for $500-$1000 per month + IP costs and there are those that use ESPs. They both have their own pros/cons.

    Note: I'm not talking about spamming. You can buy 3rd party data, which is data that the users have provided permission to receive messages from third parties and is 100% can-spam compliant.

    I have been doing all of the above for over 16 years. I have even developed my own high volume / high speed mailer as none really existed when I started. Which actually worked out well to my advantage because I didn't have to lease them and I could quickly modify as needed. However, this is not cheap and the cost has easily been upwards of $200K or more to date.
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    • Profile picture of the author affdaft
      Hi Diablo,

      Thanks for your reply.

      Like yourself it would be 3rd party purchased data but it would also be CAN-SPAM compliant.

      I was thinking of using Atomic Mail Sender and MailJet but as rritz said I am not sure if I need to use a specific IP from my end beforehand?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mujib Rahman
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    • Profile picture of the author affdaft
      Thanks @Mujib do they allow for purchased lists?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mujib Rahman
        Yes, They do allow purchased list but only you need to manage their threshold of Bounce rate and Spam rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author affdaft
      Looking for services that will allow to use purchased data?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mujib Rahman
        Try Email Push, they allow purchased data.
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  • Profile picture of the author blackcotty
    I use www.sanitymailer.com - really good system, I link it AWS and Mailjet and send out 200k per month, bought lists

    works really well
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    • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
      Originally Posted by blackcotty View Post

      I use SanityMailer - really good system, I link it AWS and Mailjet and send out 200k per month, bought lists

      works really well
      I just looked at the site. Sounds like a load of BS!

      They state..."Never be banned from sending Emails using a purchased list again!"

      Maybe they are saying that you won't get banned from using their platform, But if the platform requires you to use SMTPs in order to send the data, it's impossible to never get an account terminated.
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  • Profile picture of the author hounddog3
    Do you alleady have a list? Need it b/4 you can use Aweber as far as I know.
    Do solo ads and some other paid spots to get a list b/4 you worry about mass marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author affdaft
      Yes have 50,000 list, it's been cleaned to remove hard bounces etc just a matter of best way to send the emails out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elies sky
        hi affdaft me too i have a purchased list of 3M im looking for a way to clean it and send it, how did you cleaned yours ?
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  • Profile picture of the author NewEnglandah
    I've been noticing something lately. I get several dozed emails from the Internet Marketing Niche, and the ones from GetResponse seem to be much better looking. They are centered, and have a nice font size.

    I know that you can format them the way you like, but when I center my emails on Aweber they still come out on the left.

    Has anybody else noticed this?
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  • Profile picture of the author dkk06
    Hi is Atomic Mail Sender good for getting leads.
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