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Recommend a new e-mail marketing service that allows rented lists

by marketman44
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We have been using a certain service to market to a rented list of for the past year. It has been a nightmare from beginning to end and we are looking to make a change. We use a different paid service for our 25,000 opted-in subscribers, but that service does not allow rented or purchased lists so we have to keep this separate. [Edited to clarify: We are not looking to leave the current site due to poor results, but due to poor service. We fully understand that the success rate for sending what amounts to spam, even to qualified targeted lists, is going to be nowhere near that of the success rate of our opted-in list. We are not interested in acquiring a server and setting up a whole system to do this on our own. We are looking for a company that provides this service. Thank you.]

We do not plan to use any special features, just standard abilities like pasting in HTML code to create campaigns, and retrieving basic analytics on clicks, bounces, etc. Our list size is approximately 65,000.

Any suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    Just because an ESP doesn't allow rented / purchased lists doesn't mean you can't do it.

    The simple truth is that they have no way to know if a list is opt-in or purchased. It simply can't exceed their negative thresholds, bounces, complaints, etc. Which there are ways to skew / mitigate.

    Also, any place that will let someone just send any rented / purchased lists is probably going to suck.
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    • Profile picture of the author marketman44
      Thanks for your input. As part of a respected international corporation, we choose to follow the rules of the companies with whom we work. So while we theoretically could upload this list and hope for the best, we would also run the risk of being banned from the site and/or having our company's domain blacklisted. Not risks we are willing to take.

      There are actually companies who "clean" the lists and use revolving IPs to mitigate sending of rented/purchased lists. Unfortunately the non-sketchy ones are few and far between, as evidenced by the fact that nobody in this thread has been able to provide the recommendation I asked for.

      But thanks again for your suggestion.
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  • Profile picture of the author powermta kudos
    why don't you try self hosted server for rented list? do warmup IPs, then you will get good result.
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    • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
      Originally Posted by powermta kudos View Post

      why don't you try self hosted server for rented list? do warmup IPs, then you will get good result.
      From your website: Introducing PowerMtaKudos
      A revolutionary Email Marketing Solution

      When did a cracked version of Interspire become "revolutionary" or "new"?
      Its a piece of junk.
      Telling each user who has an email marketing question to use a self hosted platform like your own, is not to their benefit. Also, telling them they are going to have good results is also not helpful because we know this simply wont be the case.
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      • Profile picture of the author powermta kudos
        well, ProducerK how long you have been in this field?
        May be your experience was not good with Interspire or any any other tool, It doesn't mean its useless.
        However, I never asked anyone to use Interspire of any other tool here. Stop behaving like child. common grow up...
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        • Profile picture of the author ProducerK
          Originally Posted by powermta kudos View Post

          well, ProducerK how long you have been in this field?
          May be your experience was not good with Interspire or any any other tool, It doesn't mean its useless.
          However, I never asked anyone to use Interspire of any other tool here. Stop behaving like child. common grow up...
          I have been in this field clearly for a lot longer then you have been.
          Because any email marketer who makes any real money knows that Interspire is a piece of crap, and people who offer these setups have garbage delivery.

          Your responses to posts are self promoting in nature. You just say "Hey, try a self hosted solution and get great delivery, and I happen to have one you can buy right here".

          Listen, I use Warrior Forum to generate leads and new business all the time. I even promote my own stuff like you do as well, but if you do some research and read some of my posts, I have provided a lot of good information to this section. On top of that, I have no qualms pointing out to viewers of this forum about potentially shitty solutions that people are always in here pushing.

          Interspire is junk, you never address the fact that you in fact have a legitimate copy of it, so I am going to make an assumption that you are also using a cracked version. For those of you who dont know, these cracked version of Interspire leak all kinds of information and lead to permanent damage to your sending reputation, ips, and domains. On top of that, its extremely slow and does not have the features of some of the newer, and even cheaper platforms that are available out there now.

          Furthermore, you also do not mention that you have a legitimate copy of Power MTA. A single use license of Power MTA will run you about $15,000, and since you are in the business of selling newbie mailing systems to newbie mailers, you are clearly using a cracked copy of this software as well. The same issues I mention about Interspire are also true for these versions of Power MTA.

          I actually in fact have plenty of experience with Interspire, this is why I can confident say that the services you are provided are flawed from the get go. On top of this, mailers who are making money and have good systems in place do not sell their solutions to other people to create competition. If your system was in fact so good, you would be mailing on it yourself and generating tons of revenue.

          Lastly, your comments about how I am behaving are just you not liking that I am calling you out publicly and speaking truth about the services you are offering. There are plenty of people on this forum who can vouch for my legitimacy and that I do in fact know what I am talking about.

          You sir, should consider changing your business plan around and offering a service that is legal (not cracked), and that provides real value for customers.

          I have all the time in the world to hash this out with you and prove that I am right. My email servers are cranking in the background on autopilot.

          Its ok to admit defeat, it shows you have some character....
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          • Profile picture of the author powermta kudos
            well, as i stated before, i never ask anyone to use Interspire. Yes, it is mentioned on webpage.
            you may know, there are plenty of frontend tools available in the market. I provide custom solutions which are totally based on requirement of user.
            I always provide a choice of frontend tool to users with their features in starting and its totally depends on them whatever they wanna use.
            most importantly, you are asking cracked version again and again. let me clear you one thing, i have 3 licensed copies of PowerMTA, please do not tell me pricing of version and how to use them. I never use any cracked one.
            lastly, as far as comparison of service concerned, there are plenty of solutions available in the market and different types of customer's requirements too. All service providers are not same neither they provide something that is common in nature.
            I do not send emails for myself, because i am not affiliate marketer, only provide solutions to send emails.
            Your email servers may be good in your way, my servers are simply best in my way. Believe me, i don't need your suggestion of changing business or anything else. Simply put your ideas and efforts in your service.
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          • Profile picture of the author powermta kudos
            well, as i stated before, i never ask anyone to use Interspire. Yes, it is mentioned on webpage.
            you may know, there are plenty of frontend tools available in the market. I provide custom solutions which are totally based on requirement of user.
            I always provide a choice of frontend tool to users with their features in starting and its totally depends on them whatever they wanna use.
            most importantly, you are asking cracked version again and again. let me clear you one thing, i have 3 licensed copies of PowerMTA, please do not tell me pricing of version and how to use them. I never use any cracked one.
            lastly, as far as comparison of service concerned, there are plenty of solutions available in the market and different types of customer's requirements too. All service providers are not same neither they provide something that is common in nature.
            I do not send emails for myself, because i am not affiliate marketer, only provide solutions to send emails.
            Your email servers may be good in your way, my servers are simply best in my way. Believe me, i don't need your suggestion of changing business or anything else. Simply put your ideas and efforts in your service.
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