Online Freelancers Vs. Real Life Employees

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Hey everyone, Ive come to consult the fountain of knowledge that is warrior forum, as always. Your help and experience is much appreciated and valued.

Im growing my online business at a fairly reasonable rate and as such Im having to outsource a lot of the work so that I can concentrate on running and growing the business. Maybe Im an old romantic but Im a big fan of the idea of having actual employees and an office atmosphere/work culture and Id like to eventually move from outsourcing most of my work to people Ive never met to working with real people.

Has anyone here taken the leap from online outsourcing to in house employees? Id appreciate any tips you could give on how you found the process and what dangers to look out for?
And even those of you who have not expanded into taking on employees, you might have a more insightful mind than mine on this matter, Id love to hear your opinion on the difficulties that such a process might entail, and how you might prepare for such a change?
#employees #freelancers #life #online #real
  • Profile picture of the author Marthagraham
    I think first of all you should attract attention to your site as more as it possible.
    You can promote it through social networks, post interesting content about your product, their strong features, etc.
    on your site, propose different ad events, discounts, When you will have regular customers you can change your strategy. But all this time you should make analytics.and also work harder on your business because hard work is the key of success.
    I know Ami Mariscal, an independent marketing consultant.Amy can help you to run and growing your online business.
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    • Profile picture of the author FutureSiliconCEO
      Originally Posted by Marthagraham View Post

      I think first of all you should attract attention to your site as more as it possible.
      You can promote it through social networks, post interesting content about your product, their strong features, etc.
      on your site, propose different ad events, discounts, When you will have regular customers you can change your strategy. But all this time you should make analytics.and also work harder on your business because hard work is the key of success.
      I know Ami Mariscal, an independent marketing consultant.Amy can help you to run and growing your online business.

      Hey Marthagraham. Thanks for your advice. I will definitely be taking it. Its crazy how easy it is to ignore the baics while looking at the bigger picture. Thanks.
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  • I have not tried to employ anyone yet for both online freelancers and real life employees but as a freelancer myself, I think the reason why some businesses or clients prefer getting one is due to the money that they save with the same skill set that they can get from real life employees. Not all clients give out the same benefits to freelancers that they should provide to real life employees.
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    • Profile picture of the author FutureSiliconCEO
      Originally Posted by introspective out View Post

      I have not tried to employ anyone yet for both online freelancers and real life employees but as a freelancer myself, I think the reason why some businesses or clients prefer getting one is due to the money that they save with the same skill set that they can get from real life employees. Not all clients give out the same benefits to freelancers that they should provide to real life employees.
      Thanks introspectve. I'm in pretty much the same position myself. I started my business as I wanted to work for myself and had the content writing and internet marketing skills to do the bulk of the work myself. All going well, i'd like to be in the position where I can no longer handle the workload myself at some stage in the near future.

      I can imagine that freelancers definitely give you the best bang for your buck, as you only have to pay them for the job you need, and you can outsource to countries where wage demads are a lot lower, rather than paying a competitive 9 to 5 for a professional when you might not nessesarily need 40 hours of work from them every week.

      I guess I've answered my own question there anyway. So thanks for your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author pppanda
    There are a lot of things for you to consider before deciding to either hire a freelancer or an in-house employee. Some of these are cost, clientele, availability, skill, duration of the project, supervision and more. If you want to build a relationship with the people you handle, supervise and train them, be familiar with your clients I suggest you go for in-house but it would definitely come with a cost. For freelancers, you have a wide option to choose the perfect fit for your project, lower cost, but risk might be on the schedules or if your freelancer becomes unresponsive.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidGWelch
    Its a difficult choice, in my experience, freelancer tend to be more creative and serious about their work, they know that if they dont do a good job they wont get paid, and they spend a lot of resources on trying to improve their reputation to get new clients.
    Real life employees on the other hand, are more stable, you know you will always be able to count on them, and you can build a longer and more trustworthy relationship with them.
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  • It kind of depends on your needs. For jobs that require local knowledge or constant supervision or your regular input, it would be better to get real life employees. For jobs that don't require a lot of supervision, easy to train or very tedious, outsourcing might be a better option.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnjonas
    Obviously I'm known for outsourcing to the Philippines...so take this for what it's worth, but it's this exact question that changed my life.

    Problem #1: Employees are expensive. Salaries, benefits, office space, utilities, government regulations, taxes...
    Local employees just add a major burden to entrepreneurs and their ability to think creatively, solve problems, and find ways to profitability.

    Problem #2: Freelancers are temporary. With a freelancer by default comes 100% turnover in the business. Yes, it's great to have the skill set...for a couple weeks. But for a business to succeed long term it needs stability. It needs workers who grow with the business.
    For an entrepreneur to successfully grow his business (and grow his own ability to grow a business) I think he needs to find people he can rely on long term. People he can trust.

    For me, neither of these things worked. I tried both. They both left me frustrated.

    The solution for me was hiring full-time workers in the Philippines. I got the cost and skill of freelancers, and the long term stability of employees.
    The first workers I ever hired (11 years ago) in the Philippines, still work for me. They're amazing. I can't imagine my business without them. Today (after 11 years of raises, both of whom had their salaries doubled at one point), they make $800 and $950/month. One manages all our customer support and our back-end admin tasks/reporting. The other is an amazing programmer, managing all our servers, systems, and helping the rest of our programmers be effective.

    For me, I get the best of both worlds. I interact with these people every day. We chat on slack. We email. We know about each others lives. We do google hangouts occasionally.

    I own www.OnlineJobs.ph, so obviously there's a bias, but I started it because what I had found was so amazing for me and for so many other people.
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  • Profile picture of the author neshaword
    Who says that you have to make a tough choice? Here is an idea.

    Have a traditional employee or two. As many as you need or you find to be reasonable and acceptable for your budget and job requirements. Other jobs can be handled by freelancers.

    It's fine to combine. Just give it a thought.

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author jamiednm
    Freelancers definitely give more value for money and, from my experience, produce much better work. It comes down to the quality of the person though. Would you rather use a super talented and responsive freelancer, or a run of the mill employee, just so you can 'build an office atmosphere' (which sounds like hell to me, incidentally).

    For certain jobs, the idea of traditional offices is so outdated. In this day and age, millions of people are still travelling to an office everyday just to log on. Totally redundant and costly.
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