Doug D

Hey guys/gals,
I would really appreciate a little feedback regarding Incansoft vs Senuke.
Before you throw out your opinion, if I could quickly explain my situation, perhaps that will affect your opinion?

Ok, I have 1 eCommerce site where I sell tangible goods. It is built to dominate my niche, and have good longevity along with some significant revenue, blah, blah, blah. Point is...I won't be promoting a bunch of sites, well, I will have some content funnel sites etc., but you know what I mean.

I fancy myself a pretty smart dude, BUT admittedly a little tech challenged, and I don't have a lot of time logged, using different software products.

I either am or will be doing all the basics of seo...article marketing, social bookmarking, RSS capitalization (as I call it), and, well, you know the rest.

I already have 4 or 5 "seo" type software products. But I still need the bookmarking, rss, well...basically the social automation type stuff that Senuke does.

I do like simple, not just for me, but I will have to trane an employee that has minimal experience with seo...let alone seo type software.

Price is not a factor, so please disregard that as criteria for your opinion.

I have already gathered that Senuke would be more robust and more automated than if I were to grab several of Incansoft's products that do similar tasks.

Also worth mentioning...due to the nature of my biz...video marketing will be used but probably not heavily.

I'm a bit of a control freak, so even with Milan's article submitter (which I use), I do it on semi-auto, as I like to quickly check to make sure **** looks right.
I was going to just grab 4 or so of big Mike's products today, but then I started reading through a thread where there was significant discussion about the bugs in socialbot. Of course, me being a little tech challenged, I am not real fond of bugs.
Hopefuly I have communicated enough info. to get an intelligent response from someone that is familiar with both products?

Also, good customer service is important to me. But from what I have read, they both seem to be pretty strong in this area.

If you have read this far, I really appreciate it, and if you leave me an insightful reply, that would be further appreciated.
P.S.- When does the 4th sale end, Mike? The 5th?
And Big Mike, your affiliate/wholesale arrangement (whatever the hell you call it?) seems incredibly strong. And with no Video tutorials and minimal Incansoft vid's on youtube, I am really surprised there aren't more people capitalizing on that? I would, but I'm already working 15hrs., 7 days a week...on my site. Just not enough time. But what a great opportunity for a newbie or someone with the time. I don't even know that I read it right? It seems to good to be true? I might I have to hire another person, just so I can make the time to go in to the Incansoft distributor, software business.

Thanks,
Doug

Steve Porcaro

Me personally I have been taken advantage of discount codes to buy Incansoft products, though money is not an object either.

I am still just using the Incansoft products RSS submit, Article submit, directory submit and Social submit.

so it is to early to tell. However I like the fact that I can set up different profiles for my pen names.

Also I like the fact that they will update this database, I have not been here long enough on these products to see the updates but they or Mike has always been solid

As far as SE Nuke I have never used it, however IMO it is to marketing biased and will not be as valuable to you.

I like you like control on the things I do, I like automation and tools however I like to see it also.

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Doug D

Steve,
Thanks for the input buddy, appreciate it. I was kind of leaning that way, like I said, but then I started looking at the "bug" issues thread on social bot...and that kind of turned me off a little. Being not the most tech savvy guy, I get quite frustrated when I run into problems with a software product. I have enough issues just working through it and getting it all figured out, without the addition of bugs. Its nice to be able to utilize software to its greatest potential...and sometimes that takes me a little while to get there. Also, as far as I know Incansoft doesnt have video tutorials. I mean I know that its pretty straight forward, I just like utilizing vid's to learn stuff.
Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
Doug

Pete223

Hi Doug,

I picked up both SocialBot and DirectoryBot at the crazy low price
of $7.77 and it's BIG TIME worth it!!!

Even if you are not very techie, the manual walks you through it
no problem!

Definitely worth the regular sale price and for $7.77 it's a no brainer!

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Jon Alexander

senuke has probably the most robust product on the market, and the support is second to none. It's not cheap, but this really is a case of 'you get what you pay for'. Senuke also post to the biggest directories, as well as social sites. OTOH, anything by 'Big Mike' has got to be good. So basically, you pays yer money, you takes yer choice.

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razztek

Doug - I've been looking for alternatives to SENuke as well. I just can't afford the high price tag. I know maybe I won't get the same results (who knows? I have no idea how different these products are) but I'm on a budget until profits start rolling in more consistently.

I might try two or three of the ones that look most useful to me at this point and then maybe become a reseller. Honestly, if you can just make one sale a month the membership is paid for, so it would be totally worth it, plus having access to ALL the products.

Now you got me thinking............

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I can honestly say that If you go with Big Mike, you will be VERY happy. Not only are his products top notch, the support is phenomenal. And the man himself actually responds (as do Diego and John). For the price (even full price) I highly recommend ALL his software. I've got all the bots plus gfx video and graphics writer. Simply amazing tools.

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4morereferrals

I prefer to support the businesses of those warriors who have integrity, and solid ethics in the products they develop, not those that decide anyone elses product they feel might benefit their sales - is fair game to STEAL and give away to their members - and call it an update to their membership. Frankly - thats Bull****.

That said - SENuke could be free and I'd never use it again. No class, no integrity, no ethics = none of my $, or time. Support and reward those type of business owners at your own peril. Its a viscious circle that ultimately will come back to bite your business too. Count on it.

Is it superior ... less "bugs" ? Not what Im hearing. Neither may be bug free. But they work.

If you're considering either for the social bookmarking and rss features solely - the Icansoft products for myself and a team of warriors I work with on a few projects ... has so far - proved to have a higher success rate at getting bookmarks placed, and rss feeds aggregated on their automated site lists, than those in SENuke.

As with anything try them both and make your call

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Care to elaborate?

BlackTactics

Personally I'd be skeptical of any sort of "magic bullet" type solution that supposedly does does everything for you. Alot or these "automation" tools make claims that when you look at them, may work for a while but Google and other search engines will eventually catch up to.

Doug D

What a coincidence. Since I posted my initial question - I have talked to several people about the two different products/companies. The coincidence is that I had two other people tell me about some "unethical" (to say the least) dealings that were going on with Senuke and/or the owner of senuke. After my conversations with them, and hearing what they had to say - I went and purchased several of the incansoft products. I have been using them for about 2 weeks now, and couldn't be happier. They have very simple interfaces and get the job done, most expeditiously.

I would be leery of purchasing anything from senuke's creator. In fact, I would just plain avoid them, period.

BIG Mike

First, thanks for the generous comments on our Incansoft products

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackTactics Personally I'd be skeptical of any sort of "magic bullet" type solution that supposedly does does everything for you. Alot or these "automation" tools make claims that when you look at them, may work for a while but Google and other search engines will eventually catch up to.

Incansoft products are not “Magic Bullets” – they’re simply automation tools to allow individuals to accomplish a hell of a lot more than they could doing a repetitive task manually. There’s nothing black_hat about them, they don’t try to beat security or harm any of the services like some of our competitor products do – they simply emulate what a human being would normally do to submit something.

I’ve said many times that none of the bots are perfect and never will be. This is why we decided to offer them under a “Free Upgrades For Life” type of program. We knew from experience that as the services change their methodologies, the bots would need to be adapted and upgraded. There isn’t any product out there that is “Perfect” in this regard for the reasons mentioned.

We do provide reasonably good support – again, we may not be perfect, but we do try. And if you read on, you’ll see that we do listen to what our customers want.

An awesome upgrade to DirectoryBot is being released in a couple of days – it supports multi-threading (submissions are faster than all get out now), a cool reporting system for those of you submitting for others (that was a major customer request) and a kickass error handling system; it also includes a bunch of minor improvements/additions customers proposed. Customers will be notified via email of how to obtain it.

The DirectoryBot upgrades are also being ported over to the other bots along with bot specific improvements, again, based on customer feedback. We’ve also got VideoBot nearly finished and are working on PodBot (for Podcast submissions) and PadBot (for submitting Pad files).

Ultimately, all of the bots will be combined into a single program called Traffic Mania – with a new scheduling system that makes your work even easier and allows you to share redundant info between applications like Company Profiles.

That program will be free to current bot owners and we also plan on offering a low-cost membership for some “extra” services that I don’t want to go into now :wink:

The bots are not going away anytime soon – these are tools that will still be valuable 20 years from now

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Doug D

To be a little more succinct than Mike - You would be skeptical if your either a newbie or haven't looked at the software to even know what it does or how it works.
Those of us that actually use it - already know that there is nothing to worry about when it comes to "Google catching up to us".
I would be happy to sit down with Matt and show him what I do with this software. It's just a big time saver.

localsearch1031

Wow, Harsh on senuke`s creators...

I have senuke and use it everyday and am very pleased with the results. I don`t know about them giving other peoples products away , sounds like a personal issue. Even though senuke can be alittle buggy at times, the results have impressed me enough to stay on.

dlnunez

Compared to SENuke, Incansoft products can't be beat price wise - this is especially true if your just starting out.

Joe Russell

Hey Steve, since I am one of the creators of SEnuke I would like to respond to your accusational post.

Firstly, I have a very high standard of ethics and anyone who has worked with me, done business with me directly or through my company will attest to this.

Besides Internet Marketing my company works with many large corporations as well as government and military...we didnt become successful by being unethical.

Lastly, I am sure someone as ethical as you claim to be are aware that bashing is against the rules of this forum. If you have something you would like to say or discuss with me please PM me and I will provide you with my direct phone number.

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seolake

ok, without getting into the controversy of Profile Nuke using Steve's backlink packet, IMHO there is no comparison between Big Mike's products and SENuke. While I am a user of Big Mike's products myself and they do a good job, the software of senuke does much more than that.

Yes, you can buy a few other software and those with Big Mike's software can be clubbed to get a 2nd alternative to Senuke. But, it will again be a bits-and-pieces alternative.

Coming to the controversy on Steve's packets, I think it is not really something that should have been done by Areeb (if that has been done indeed). Picking up someone's packet for 67$ and adding it as an update to your software is something that should be considered unethical, unless you worked out an arrangement with Steve. With a full-fledged team it won't be difficult to find 600 or more sites on your own to offer as a profile nuke list.

Now, I have used senuke in trial and I have liked it. I will continue to use it, but I will definitely like a clarity on how the developers take care of the ethical issues raised by Steve. I would be as pissed off as Steve is, if someone was to do what has been done to his packet. Pretty lame.

tommyp

I've never had trouble with the SENuke guys.

Anyone who knows me would know that if I had and was asked I'd say so.

During the time I was having financial trouble due to the WCW fiasco I had to cancel but had been charged that month cause I was careless.

I told them. The money fro that month was refunded even though to my knowledge they didn't have to.

No complaints from me as far as the guys.

The software itself is great. Nothing is perfect 99.9% of the time but when I was on we got updates often and I was happy. I am considering getting back in.

I don't know about Big Mike's software so I can't comment.

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Yuds

Hmm, I had never heard anything unethical about SENuke before - only rave reviews from those who had used it.

I downloaded my free one week trial and was blown away by the functionality of it. Literally what would take me one week to do by hand can be done in an hour or so. Absolutely phenomenal automation.

There are a couple bugs, sure, but they seem to be very good about fixing those and updating the software regularly and the forum and support elements are fantastic.

I haven't yet had long enough to see results as far as organic searches go, but I can tell you that in about 3 days of using SENUke I got an extra 200 backlinks to one website of mine. And that was with ONE article, that I spun using SENuke's ingenius integrated contentboss feature. And it took me about 45 minutes of work to get those. So make what you will of that.

Overall, I think SENuke is fantastic. I fully plan on carrying on my subscription and give it the thumbs up.

That's my 2c.

areebb

This is Areeb. The "unethical thief" being referred to here.

I have already replied to another vey harsh and accusational post by Steve and never got a reply from him on the matter. And for the sake of not ruining this genuine review thread as well, I won't copy and paste the reply over. You can see it here if you're interested: SENUKE

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allthesp

Senuke is definitely a great program, and for the massive amount of time it saves well worth the price. Check out the new profile nuke module if you have any doubts.

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jms70

Iam James. I am amazed how the senuke works. It works great. Help me a lot then i have to buy many software for different purpose like to research keywords and do some seo basic activities. The price is worth with the result of using senuke

Tom Brite

Seems that most people here prefer senuke.

If you can swallow the price then i highly reccomend it to anyone! It was rocky to start with but now they really have got it working perfectly.

Saves me alot of time! which is worth paying the monthly fee for!

Tom Brite

carmene

Once I bought Big Mike's software and requested assistance from him and he became very impatient and unwilling to help me. I am a software developer for the last 20 years, so I am a technical person.

He disabled all of his software and took the ability from me to use them after I had spent considerable time and effort to set many of them up and working. This was quite an outrageous thing for a business person to do. But I am glad it happened when it did rather than when I became totally dependent on them.

I would stear clear of all of Big Mike's products if you have an alternative. He has the power to pull the plug on all of your stuff at anytime. Is that what you truly want for your business????

Tom Brite

Ouch that is not a good review!

I have both senuke and bigmikes products but only use senuke now simply because everything is all together! I even have bookmarkig demon but now don't use that either. Really a bit of a waste of money but senuke is too good not to use.

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Justin1

Its really a no brainer for me, been using SE nuke for several months. Support is unheard of with new features, new sites, upgrades, all included FREE with your membership. Its your non stop traffic machine in a box basically. If you get some articles written for you, put them in SENuke, submit the original ones to the big article directories (automatically with SEN), then spin them all and submit them everywhere else (all automatically), then bookmark them all, submit the feeds, ping them! All with a few mouse clicks you will have a massive tsunami of traffic delivered to your website. Seriously, it takes a few days to learn, but once you do, you will have traffic at your fingertips. You have half the battle won already with a key domain to target everything to, just go and get it, learn it and totally dominate your niche!
+=Oh and as a side note, if you ever wanted to cancel senuke (why would you?), all your sites are there forever (web 2.0 sites are built on the fly) and are totally under your control, everything is kept on your pc and you have ALL your logins so what happened above with big mike couldnt happen with senuke.

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seolake

As far as senuke support is concerned, I can vouch for it. Areeb personally answered my ticket that could have probably been answered by him alone. And this happened in less than 24 hours of opening the ticket.

pavionjsl

SE is over priced and sometimes to much SEO. There are tools that I would put together in its place that are more controled.

Momof2

I've subscribed to SENuke for two months now, and I think it's worth it for those of us who hate the thought of opening tons of 2.0 accounts and bookmarking accounts, and then pinging what we've written, etc. If I didn't subscribe to SENuke, those jobs probably wouldn't get done.

The speed that it gets these drawn out tasks done is just amazing.

It's an expensive crutch, but one that I'm not willing to live without at least for the time being...

Tron2k

that sounds solid enough for me,im buying tonight,,goodbye NP Classroom hello SeNuke

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I've been using SENuke for awhile now, and I'm getting good results with it. At first I was hesitant about paying the high monthly price tag, but it definitely is worth it. At least try the trial and see if it works for you.

I also just bought RSSBot today. Pretty cool too I must say.

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Star Riley

Incansoft versus Senuke as an owner of both I use them both but the most important tool I have is between my ears.

My ability to look at things differently than thousands of other me too markets is building my kids future on a daily basis. I say use whatever works for what your trying to do I personally like having "options" not so much because one works and one doesn't Icansoft is amazing price and service and while people think SEnuke costs a lot to me it is less than $500-$2000 to have a crew of people doing the work for you.

If your just starting out go with Icansoft since you can invest $25 bucks and get one thing then upgrade by buying other things over time and focus on what tasks bring you more money.

Once your making $500 plus a month Senuke will pay for itself. Any investment I make in my business either ads to it or gets dumped.

My loyalty is to feeding my 1.5 million kids :-)

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Are you allowed to direct people to your sig?

FifthDimension5

You could also try Traffic Bug, which costs less than SeNuke, works as advertised, submits to search engines, rss, soc bookmarks, directories and so on, and their support has been very good so far.

TommyBoy

Does the icansoft products have automatic captcha solving? I tried the 7 day trial of senuke and I really could not stand it if I had to do all of the captchas, it would drive me crazy.

vincentdee

why not just have a look at how well each one is doing


examineurl.com/view.aspx?incansoft.com

examineurl.com/view.aspx?senuke.com

Amy21

I would go with Senuke.

BIG Mike

That's an absolutely meaningless measurement - and that site is so far off base with their stats it's ridiculous.

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Spencer Chun

I can tell you by experience that Joe Russell and Senuke is very ethical. I've been a member of Senuke for several months and the software get's better and better. They are always adding more features and looking to IMPROVE the software. Yes, Joe Russell is a stand up guy and he takes care of me. Also, the other owner Areeb is very helpful and I like the video tutorials. The software at Incansoft is very good too. I know I emailed Diego on several occasions about an issue with Socialbot but never got a reply. Once you see what Senuke can do for you it will be hard to go with anybody else.

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Senuke is an amazing service/ product, I have been a happy customer for quite some time now!

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I have 4 Icansoft products and really like them, as for Senuke can't comment but they have a free trial I believe so you could see for yourself if it suits you.

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John Sullivan and Tom Brite - which ICansoft products do you like to use?

seoessex

Guys you get what you pay for. The big Mike products are good for the price but senuke is on another planet.

I looked at cheaper options than senuke, but the fact you can create new pages of content and then social bookmark and ping all of those newly created pages so quickly just isnt possible in any other package ive seen

Jon245

Senuke is it fully automated?

cypherslock

And just to counterpoint this...I've got most of Mike's Bots and anytime I've needed help diego is right there with me. Diego is the person to go to for support issues, but I've found that Mike is always willing to pitch in. Personally, I love the guy's products as they save me a ton of time and are a one-off investment. I've not once had any reason to be irritated or frustrated with Mike or his products. For the price, once you read the manual and set things up, there is nothing better in my opinion.

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H_Wilhelm

Wish I had seen this thread a few months ago when someone mentioned a 30-day trial of SENuke, as I just checked out the website and unless I'm going blind, that option has been pulled.

Nonetheless, I've been hearing more and more about SENuke and even with a 7-day FREE trial, I'm sure anyone could see positive results with it!

If I can get around to getting a few articles written that I've been meaning to do for a while now, I'll get the free trial and track my results in a blog here on WarriorForum.

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BIG Mike

I do not now, nor have I ever refused to help a customer, no matter how inexperienced they are. While some aspects of our support may not be perfect, we've NEVER acted impatiently or unwilling to help out.

You neglected to mention that you demanded a refund instead of letting us help you and then got upset when the products stopped working after the refund was issued (my weren't you surprised?).

What possibly made you think you had a right to continue using the products after you received a refund? It was your decision, not mine, so I don't understand what your problem is. Once I issued your refund, our business was completed...I mean what more do you expect of me?

Yes, I "Pulled the Plug" as we do with anyone who tries to scam us out of a free product. You just didn't see it coming...

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pavionjsl

Never had any problem with big Mike and the products are a great value. ONCE we get the new products coming that would be nice.......hint hint.............not to mention the discount code hoarding is getting rough....but thats life!

John Sullivan

As a regular buyer of Icansoft products I must say I have been very happy with the products, with regards to the support offered by BIGMike and Co from my experience it was amazing.

One product I bought had a slight problem with the zip file, I contacted Mike and within 5 minutes he answered saying he was out of the office and would resolve it quickly.

Well within about 30 minutes true to his word it was resolved and I received a new zip file. How many people would take the trouble to answer you in 5 minutes from a blackberry I guess when out of the office?

I'm looking forward to the videobot when ready. For price and service you can't beat Icansoft products.

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medway

Agreed, I had a billing problem with them that was my fault and they sorted it with no hassle.