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Old 07-15-2009, 10:07 AM   #51
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Thanks for the good praise Madeleine. As for the Ad Feed, you can select all products or only products in a specific category or subcategory to show on your site. For example if you have a fitness site you probably only want to show Health & Fitness ads, you can certainly do so. You get 100% of the commissions; we don’t take any second tier commissions on any sales.
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Thanks for the good praise Madeleine. As for the Ad Feed, you can select all products or only products in a specific category or subcategory to show on your site. For example if you have a fitness site you probably only want to show Health & Fitness ads, you can certainly do so. You get 100% of the commissions; we don’t take any second tier commissions on any sales.

Thanks for that info...

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Hi 2b1ask1,

Good question, and one we have thought about. A solution for you will be out in the next 60 days. I have PMed additional details.
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I wish Ryan and his company the best of success. I emailed him last week and told him I did not condone the soliciting of our marketplace. As it was never anything we did to clickbank.

I explained the fact that I have a great relationship and friendship with clickbank and we have talked many times on how we can grow together.

I told Ryan it would be better to let the boats rise with the tides rather than be adversaries. He was very polite in his reply. He had stated he only asked people
to ALSO use PG and not leave PDC for PG. However, he stated he would stop
the practice.

We then went back and forth with a great freindly email. I told him I think he
has a good service. Better than anyone that tried to create a PDC alternative.

I gave him advice on how to marketing and revenue as well as how we stared
marketing our service to get neat 3/4 Million users in 4 years.

Ryan and his team have a good platform and know it is not something that sees
results in its first months.

I wish them the best of success and I think the more choices people have the better.

I had also explained to him the fast growth of my company that at many times only
allowed slower than wanted growth of features along with constant maintenance as
we had 11 tech guys in staff and kept 2-3 on PDC when it would be better to have 5
but finding and growing a larger team was not always in the cards so we had to
use our dev team to also create and maintain other projects.

In the last 90 days, we went back to 3 full time DEV people that focus on new products
for PDC with another 2 on servers and support for a total of 5.

So we are going to be adding Auth.net, googleCO and 2co and others by end of summer. It is already done and being tested. We are also adding the ability to have
a SHOPPING CART feature to add more items at check out. So you can do amazon
style upsells and many launch tree strategies.

As well,m we will gave 1 click upsells with AUTH.net. And other unique features
like passing the data along to you of forms filled out that ABANDON at paypal
so you can follow up with sales that did not buy.

Secure and Expiring Download pages are also coming in the next week.

So many of our wish list items are coming in August as we want to keep ahead
of the competition as well as keep up with the competition.

CB, PDC are time tested and have their pros and cons. PG is new on the block
and I hope to see in years to come they are referred in the same sentence as
often as you see CB and PDC. FOr me it has always been an honor for the
question to ever be raised. "CB or PDC" - I am sure it is for Ryan too.

Take care...
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Wow, this has become quite a thread. Thanks for jumping in Mike.

I have traded a few emails with Mike over the last week. He does not want us contacting his member so we will respect that. I am very pleased to hear he feels we did a great job on our site and are the first real competitor to his PayDotCom platform.

And yes there is a ongoing debate between ClickBank and PayDotCom, hopefully one day that will also include PayGear, we will work for it.
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Ricardo, we never spammed anyone. Here is my previous post on this matter, I am assuming you missed it.

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Alan, I never harvested any emails, not sure why you are accusing me of that. I simply would go the site, click the contact link and send the user an email or submit a ticket. That is certainly not spam in any way defined by the can spam act.
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WOW! Yeah Mike, thanks for being here and sharing with us as well.

Stay Golden!

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I too had an individual email from Ryan (which is not spam). And I decided to make the switch over from Paydotcom, as I found their support was less than I required. I have found Ryan to be extremely helpful, very quick to respond and friendly. Apart from the no set up fees, and no fees for sometime, can you ask for anything more in a company?

I'm still finding my feet with internet marketing, so all the help available is greatly appreciated. I have found that help is readily available from Pay Gear via Ryan. Highly recommended. I wish them the very best.
Thanks also for sharing with us your experience thus far as we learn more about PG.
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Also I would like to add, if anyone needs any special needs for their order processor please let me know. If its useful to you its likely useful to others and we can likely implement that for you at PayGear.com. Please just send me a PM.
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Mike Ambrosio,

I was recently notified that you were an employee of PayDotCom. Is this true? If so then wouldn't your opinion be biased? If not then my apologies. I see that you are from New York. I have been called by Mike Filsaime's guys "ALL" from New York for things, and I know he has a few employees on here posting at times. Where do you stand with PDC please... an employee or just a vender?

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It's actually common knowledge that I work for Mike.

But that does not make my opinion of Ryans email biased. I have been using PDC LONG before I went to work for Mike (My PDC ID is in the low 300's - that should give you an idea how long...).

Ryan emailed me as a USER of PDC, not an employee. If he put Clickbank in the email instead of PDC, or if your thread title used Clickbank instead of PDC my comments would not be different overall.

In my viewpoint, he spammed me. Which has ALWAYS been my "complaint" if you will.

I also think it's silly to think that someone can't be unbiased simply because of employment status. My comments here don't bring in extra customers. And I still use PDC and CB every day. I am a customer of both (I even PAY the PDC fees).

If we are going to say that my opinions can not be unbiased and should be ignored, then by THAT standard, shouldn't Ryan's? Either he's an employee or the owner, so stating PG is better than PDC or CB would be a BIASED opinion. no?

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Too much is being made of *an*
email.

Get over it already.

Ryan - you need to learn how to
seed the forum like the gurus do.
That's how you get the word out -
not by writing emails to individuals.

Does the service have merits or
not?

Judging by the reaction I'd have
to guess that it does.

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nice site, but they need to work on their servers, dirt slow for me.
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MikeAmbrosio,

You have had hard comments against us on this forum the whole time, now it makes sense, your working for the competitor, ok that’s fine.

You think it’s common knowledge to everyone on WarriorForm that you work for the competitor? I cannot speak for everyone on WarriorForum but I am far too busy to know your business.

As for emailing you, I don’t know how I can make it any clearer, I came to your site clicked the contact link and sent you an email. I am guessing you are not clear on what is spam, because that is clearly not. Just because you want it to be spam does not make it so.

It appears your more intrested in attacking me personally than actually making real comments on the site.
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Thanks for all your feedback Ryan.

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You can go right into our marketplace and look at the selection of products we offer. New products are being added everyday.
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Alan, I never harvested any emails, not sure why you are accusing me of that. I simply would go the site, click the contact link and send the user an email or submit a ticket. That is certainly not spam in any way defined by the can spam act.
I think you should promote this network in better way. Like using WSO here at the forum.
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The 2 websites are cool. business is business, competition is always present.
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Good idea Azlan.MY,

We have run a few WSO.
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I dont know if a payment processor can handle downsell,upsell... instead of a script/system on my site...just a thought

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Big deal about an email. It's not even the same as getting Viagra, penis enlargement or other crap. And he sent it once. I wouldn't call someone finding out about me, tracking down my email online and saying "Hey" plus whatever they need to say SPAM. If that's SPAM then all of you have spammed at some point in your lives. I could see why Mike wouldn't like it, though but that's got nothing to do with you.

I would always be happy to hear about an alternative, whether I go with it or not.

It's also an option to consider as an affiliate because I grew tired quickly from not getting paid by PDC vendors. If Mike can have some sort of system going where you don't rely on lazy, deadbeat or apathetic vendors to pay then I may look at PDC again.
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I cant believe some people are getting so upset about a few e-mails. If you have a contact us form on your site, then you are inviting people to contact you..

If you use CB and PDC, then why not give these guys a chance also. Like Ryan says, if they dont deliver, what have you lost. Keep using CB and PDC. There's more than enough business to go around from existing and potential affiliates.

It doesnt have to be one or the other.

Put it this way, now is the time to join. Ryan has come onto the forum and is answering questions, and what everyone has to say now can and will shape the future of this new service.

Imagine if you had this opportunity to have a hand in how CB developed in its early days, to tell them what you wanted and how you wanted the system to perform.

Ultimately the market will decide if this service will survive and prosper, but come on guys, give them a chance..what have you got to loose.

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I appreciate the comments Graham. As I said before almost everyone I contacted wad delighted to hear from me. The only guy who was not was the guy who worked for the competitor. We stand behind our product, that’s why we are letting people try it for free. We have a user friendly system, with more features than you will see anywhere else and at a lower price. However, Warriors can use it for free for a few months if they PM me and wish to try it out.
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i'm thinking of trying these guys out, has anyone got anyone else got any reviews?
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Hi ryan......i think everybody should just shut up about the email....People do that type of stuff everyday..Businesses so that stufff everyday..its nothing new...

i get credit card offers everyday that read....YOU DONT HAVE TO CANCEL YOUR CURRENT CREDIT CARD...BUT PLEASE GIVE US A TRY AND MAKE AN ACCOUNT WITH US!

I THINK ITS SMART,

Anyway on to the questions...THIS IS FOR RYAN CAMPBELL

1. do you guys offer recurring payments..meaning can i offer a membership product in which the customer pays me monthly and my affiliate gets comm. as long as the customer pays.

2. also do you guys have that amazon.com upsell...they advertise multiple related products and you only have to enter your cc info once...do you guys have that..
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Hi ryan......i think everybody should just shut up about the email....People do that type of stuff everyday..Businesses so that stufff everyday..its nothing new...

i get credit card offers everyday that read....YOU DONT HAVE TO CANCEL YOUR CURRENT CREDIT CARD...BUT PLEASE GIVE US A TRY AND MAKE AN ACCOUNT WITH US!

I THINK ITS SMART,

Anyway on to the questions...THIS IS FOR RYAN CAMPBELL

1. do you guys offer recurring payments..meaning can i offer a membership product in which the customer pays me monthly and my affiliate gets comm. as long as the customer pays.

2. also do you guys have that amazon.com upsell...they advertise multiple related products and you only have to enter your cc info once...do you guys have that..
Did anybody ever find this out???
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Hi rpjackson,

Yes PayGear does offer recurring payments. You can set up recurring in any duration you want, daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly. And your affiliates will continue to receive commission on each payment.

As for am amazon.com upsale, I am thinking no as I don’t know what that is.

I just happened to run by this post again, but if you need quick answers to your questions you can submit a ticket on PayGear.com. Support is very fast.
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Hi rpjackson,

Yes PayGear does offer recurring payments. You can set up recurring in any duration you want, daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly. And your affiliates will continue to receive commission on each payment.

As for am amazon.com upsale, I am thinking no as I don’t know what that is.

I just happened to run by this post again, but if you need quick answers to your questions you can submit a ticket on PayGear.com. Support is very fast.

Recurring payments are important. Clickbank is now allowing vendors to do $1.00 free trial offers so I know the value in recurred billing. It's powerful!
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From PayGear.com:

Then just pay a low processing free for each sale.
  • Free for orders under $5
  • $1 charge for orders under $20.
  • $1.50 for orders under $40.
  • $2 for orders under $60.
  • $2.50 orders over $60.
We are completely against 10%-15% charges on each sale, unlike many of our competitors. With PayGear you can expect to pay between 2.5% to 5% per order, while receiving far more benefits. All processing fees are charged to the vendor, then split with the affiliate by the same percentage as the affiliate payout.



This is encouraging, and I hope it is sustainable.
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Then just pay a low processing free for each sale.
  • Free for orders under $5
  • $1 charge for orders under $20.
  • $1.50 for orders under $40.
  • $2 for orders under $60.
  • $2.50 orders over $60.
We are completely against 10%-15% charges on each sale, unlike many of our competitors. With PayGear you can expect to pay between 2.5% to 5% per order, while receiving far more benefits. All processing fees are charged to the vendor, then split with the affiliate by the same percentage as the affiliate payout.



This is encouraging, and I hope it is sustainable.


New Updates! Nice! Thanks for the share! Yes, that is encouraging. :-)

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I joined PayDotCom a good while back and I took advantage of the OTO and prepaid for several credits, and I still haven't used any of my investment. Found out about PayGear.com this week and decided to put my first couple products there instead of PDC or Clickbank.

At some point I will have to put a product or two up at PDC just so my investment isn't wasted, but initially I liked what I read about PayGear and decided it was a good place to start.
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Yes, very nice. Mike Filsaime and his crew are great, fun, and smart guys and PDC has served me well however, PG is a great new place with low fees and it is good to have options.
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