alashton

The last time I put up a Chris Rempel/Dave Kelly review "MSN Loophole" it almost started world war 3 and got so contentious it eventually got pulled.

Well this time, their new products are much more to my liking. In fact Authority Loophole is free, if you're on his list, and you gotta hand it to the guys the marketing is superb. Authority Loophole is a backlinking strategy similar to that offered by Angela V Edwards and the sales page tells a few home truths about the whole IM business that most duffers like me will associate with.

However before you get to your free download there's the usual opt-in form and a huge sales pitch for "Profit Loophole" a sort of site flipping course. Of course you can skip thru that and just get the download but I have to say the pitch is very well written, persuasive and worth considering. No idea if the freebie will work, can't see why not really, but what have you got to lose? - nada.

This is all top rate marketing and it's no wonder these guys are the absolute dogs bollocks when it comes to IM. ( for you US guys "dogs bollocks" is a well loved Brit expression meaning ace or top dog)

gpower2

I have been beta testing the free Authority Loophole software for a couple of weeks now.

I am also am a member of Angela's backlinking package.

This new software (Authority Loophole) is the easiest way to get PR 5+ backlinks that I have ever seen.

Using both of these systems together is extremely powerful!

Steve Crooks

As far as I can see it is software that goes and finds blogs to comment on that have PR.. Not quite the same as Angelas high PR backlinks.

FeelingFree

As the saying goes ... I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, BUT .. I tried this software on two very straight forward, hugely popular topic/keywords and I could not once get the results to pull up blogs that had anything to do with the keywords. And, yes, I did follow the instructions exactly. And I retried a number of times. Since there's no support (understandably ... it IS free), nor opportunity to provide feedback, I wasn't able to share this dilemma with them and get to the bottom of it.

My excitement on Authority Loophole quickly wained.

alashton

Actually I read that differently. It does not matter what keywords you put in. The only reason for putting keywords in, any keywords, is so that you pull up different blogs from anyone else, the subject is irrelevant.

Say you put in a keyword "learn piano" the word learn may be on that site somewhere and so will piano but have nothing to do with learning piano

Well I maybe wrong, but to be honest it is not explained all that well.

FeelingFree

Ah-so alashton ... I think you must be right.

I was taking "Authority" much too literally and was assuming that the software would pull up relevant blogs.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Google Lover

Hey feelingfree,

thanks for trying the software for us. i was also about to use it for fun. however i guess thanks to your feedback, i'll just leave the software on my desktop. hehehe.

Heuristic

If I had a top commentors position on a popular blog that took, say, 50+ comments to get, I'd be pretty p*ssed that someone could come in and reap the benifits of my hard work in a matter of seconds. For this reason, if I were using this method, I would always be paranoid about retaliation. For example: what if your site uses adsense? There would always be the possibility of someone exacting their revenge by click-bombing your site.

And then there is the fact that many blog owners will know the top commenters personally and realize instantly that you're not them. Where will your comment end up? Probably deleted and your site added to Akismet's spam list.

Definitely things you need to consider.

Jay Rhome

Yep it feels sleazy "stealing" someone's name to get backlinks...

Though he does recommend going for the top commenters WITHOUT an active backlink, so you're not stealing from them, just "borrowing" their posting power...

I wonder if there are a lot of those though. I haven't tried it yet.

patlondon

Yes it's clever....but is it 'ethical' as Chris says...? I think this is possibly going to hurt us all more than help in the long run cause as blog owners see the games going on won't they be more likely to just go to no follow..?

patlondon

Great point about Adsense- excellent way of getting your account shut down.

Chris Thompson

My advice is to use this strategy to find blogs where it doesn't take a lot of comments to earn a *legitimate* spot in the top commenters position. Then just make relevant comments, subscribe to the rss feed, and keep your link active. If you do this to a handful of sites with good PR your website will rank well.

Also, if you happen to find a site where a top commenter has the same name as you, nothing unethical about making a comment under your own name.

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patlondon

Good idea!

csm

Doesn't the Top Commenters section refresh monthly? Or does the webmaster have to customize the widget to do this?

I just remember once when I had been actively commenting on a blog, and I was among the Top Commenters at one point with something like 4-5 comments. A few days later, I was missing from the list of Top Commenters yet the list had people's names in it with just 1-2 comments. So out of curiosity, when I was communicating with the site owner about some other things, I just happened to ask him why my "Top Commenter" position had fallen off, and he told me that it refreshes monthly, so that it is only the "Top Commenters" for the month that are displayed.

It may have been the way he set up his Wordpress installation and not the default, but I wouldn't want to waste time becoming a Top Commenter on a bunch of sites if it only lasted until the end of the month.

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patlondon

Newest message and pdf user guide from Chris' blog addresses this ethics question. What do you think..?
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I have a fix for the top commentator plugin that prevents this hijacking by always using the original commentator's info: Top Commentator Fix Available | Product Reviews and Buying Guides from OpTempo I put it together last year when I first noticed this kind of activity.

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What the heck happened to the post I made in this thread?

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Matt James

Thought I'd give this software a test drive and the 2nd blog I come across reads this...

"If you are using programs like Authority Loophole to spam this blog please piss off and die, comments are moderated and your comment will not get through... so don't bother (you've a better chance of getting your comment accepted if you actually use your real name)"

The 'loophole' didn't last very long eh?

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Dexx

Huh? How does that show it "not lasting long"?

Obviously people were making spammy comments using things "credit repair" etc instead of real names...

Which is exactly what Chris and Dave said would get their comments deleted.

The "loophole" is to find sites with dofollow links that use that plugin, you getting your comments approved is based on your own intelligence.

I've already obtained several Top 5 Google rankings in competitive niches for my offline clients using it, so I don't really care if others use it not since it makes it better for those of us that do, but I felt like adding my 2cents in

Emmanuel Betinis

Listen, for those of you who don't like the idea of
stealing someone else's commenting power...

THEN DON'T DO IT. If you don't like doing that,
just use the BLOG commenting feature of the software
ONLY then. That's why D.K. put the WHITEHAT feature
of the software as well as the GREYHAT feature.

You don't think they know it will be a short-term
gain, too? He even says so in the training material
for the software.

Moreover, the "Top Commenters" exploit will be
having patches/fixes coming out soon anyway
making it short-lived (like D.K. & C.R. warn
you about anyway).

So just stick with the WHITEHAT feature of the
software that does NOT have the Top Commenters
plugin installed. That way you'll never have to worry
about the exploit BS the TC plugin is vunerable to.

patlondon

Too funny!

ecdavis

That is a hoot. However, it goes to show that some people consider the Internet a resource to be stripmined and destroyed to gain short term profit rather than a resource to be nutured, preserved, and enhanced.

Mitch Miller

I received an email today from Chris saying this one is being shut down July 31st.
How many flops can this guy withstand and still have a reputation that is suitable for making sales?

I wonder if he regrets hooking up with Dave? First the MSN Loophole which was a total joke, and now this?

MeCanX

Yeah, I was going to try the MSN Loop Hole stuff a while back when I was first starting out in the IM world...I found their site about some Loop hole stuff and subscribed to their newletter...

At the time I stumbled upon the wrong IM training aka "Blackhat" stuff and somehow they were in the mix...

Anyways, I tried that Authority Loophole program (free junk) and it consistently brought back tons of the same blogs...

I even found one to where the owner of the Blog put a big warning to Authority Loop Hole users not to try the trick...and said you would be better off putting your own name...

So apparently this software has shot the sh** if ya know what I mean.

Personally, I trashed it after about 10 minutes of working with it as it brought back about only 10% no follows out of everything...and if other people are doing the same thing and getting the same blogs then that's not good...

Even in the video he said it was Grey Hat stuff to be doing anyways...

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mogulmedia

I must admit, the Authority Loophole does bring back many of the same results no matter what keyword you use. Also it's only a matter of time before a fix is used for the plugin it targets.

I think people are better off searching and commentin themselves on blogs that actually interest them and as always just try to obtain 'natural' traffic and links.

I must also admit that I put in quite a bit of effort (more fool me) into MSN Loophole and got nothing out of it whatsoever even though I followed it to a tee.

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andrusito

I also used this program but I never got many results. plus there's too much manual work involved. I have automated tools leaving comments and stuff. plus I've seen blog owners are noticing their blogs are being spammed so this tool is about to die.

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Dave_Kelly

Mitch, MSN Loophole was a joke? I would wager that 9 months removed from it's launch, it has more people still using it, and succeeding than most any other product released in that time frame. Just because people who have not had success also happen to be the most vocal does not mean there are not a whole lot of people who are doing really well with it 9 months later. Those people tend not to be as vocal.

Loophole sites are everywhere on MSN.. The sites on the sales page still rank 9 months later with absolutely nothing done to them. And when Bing starts feeding Yahoo in a few months we will see on whom the joke is actually on.

I would be really interested to know what you define as a flop and then let's compare notes.

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xwishmasterx

I can't see the difference between this an other blog comment software.

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JK Nyerere

The MSN Loophole system was a complete scam and the marketing speak on its sales page was very misleading. People were annoyed about the MSN Looophole because the authors of it prresented themselves as "honest no hype" guys. In truth though, the MSN loophole was all hype and it just did not deliver.

I am sure perhaps 5% of sites that were built using the Loophole are still ranking on MSN/Bing. But so will 5% of niche sites built with most methods. I have a site still making good money still that was built using traffic equalizer. It does not mean that traffic equalizer is a valid system, especially considering that 90% of other sites built with Traffic Equalizer are de-indexed.

The MSN Loophole is not a successful blueprint as presented in its sales Literature.

JKN

Mitch Miller

Not even close...

Neil S

You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. I have personally made hundreds of thousands of dollars from methods Chris has promoted. Is every single method going to be a home run? of course not!

But to say because of a couple of hiccups someone has lost their reputation is ridiculous. Look at the BIG picture, 98% of the stuff he does put out is gold. No one is going to be perfect.

I trust Chris' opinion more than any other marketer on here. I have personally used most of his stuff and it WORKS. But you have to take his methods to test and develop your own strategy. No one should rely on any single tactic.

Emmanuel Betinis

Interesting little thread I thought I'd temporarily revive.

Anyone still using the Authority Loophole software successfully?