actionplanbiz

Sup Warriors,

Looking for opinions between the two. looking to start on a niche soon.
but not sure which one i should go for (1st time). i am open to alternative
hosting.

I Plan mainly to build a list in this niche and primarily rely on email.

Tomwood

I am with hostgator after trying several other webhosts and I am quite happy this is the first time I have heard of kiosk.

The other host I recommend is bluehost the only reason I prefer hostgator is because they do reseller packages

Hope this helps

overrank

I suggest 1and1 ... 2$ and you've got everything hostgator has ... I've got a blog for reviewing this services - service77.net . check them out ... I'm using hawkhost .. don't know why

dnka

Hostgator is OK, never heard of Kiosk. What is their URL?

actionplanbiz

Mike Filsaime Recommends them as well as getting domains from name cheap.

kiosk.ws ithink is the url

Loren Woirhaye

Unless you are going to run a FFA or Safelist Hostgator is
probably a better choice.

overrank

Hostgator is safe ... I mean as it's tested like for some years and lots of people use it . So it's better pay a buvk more than wake up one day and ...

greenexit

I would go with Hostgator. I host all my sites there and so far been happy with them. I tried 1and1 (sucks), Dreamhost (too slow), powweb (slow) and none of them are as good. That's just my experience.

overrank

how about justhost or pronethosting.net ... or easy cgi ?

actionplanbiz

ya i saw like a Justhost commercial talking about how they are in the top 5 most trusted and used hosting service. but i dont know. thanks all i will go with hostGater =D

dunno

I use 1and1 to register my domains and host gator to host them.
Its been working flawless.

mezloh

I add my vote for Hostgator. I have used them for a couple of years and have a reseller account.

Register domain names with Godaddy and host at Hostgator.

I also second a negative vote for 1and1. IT SUCKS!!! I was a user before switching to Hostgator.

Paul Becky

I really love hostgator! they providing very great support!

I can't vote more on that!

Paul

streetaspirations

anyone tried resellerzoom. I've had a few problems with HG, but do admit the support is great.

Marian Berghes

The reason Filsaime recommends Kiosk is because the owner knows the IM industry.

theimgroup

I've used Hostgator, but found their customer service to be horrible when i needed help. When they are up, it's fantastic. I was using Bluehost.com for a while to. Great package, fantastic support, but I got a lot of hackers hitting my site. I also used 1and1 (have 74 domain names with them) but I find that they are getting worse every month, so I'm slowly moving away from them.
In my honest opinion, if you can afford it, go with your own virtual server. They are much cheaper now, and you have more control and security with it, rather than a shared environment. I am using eboundhost.com for a few of my sites.

Cheers
Daniel

Richnana

Hostgator is the best.. Great support 99% up time

dizen

I host my site on hostgator and have been happy with their servcie

LA Grouch

HostGator offers a lot more than most, and they are reliable.

Another good tactic is to put a site up on ByetHost. This is the absolute best free hosting I have found. No ads, free Wordpress, and tons of tools. The only drawback is no SMTP. You can get around this with Gmail and Imap.

I've had a site with ByetHost for 2 years, and not one hitch.

BurgerBoy

I would go with Hostgator.

hlstew

kiosk.ws is used by major marketers. It is located at kiosk.ws
They have a variety of plans but you can test drive it for a buck. The domains are expensive to buy through them ($14.95) but you can buy them somewhere else and just point the nameserver. It's easy to do on godaddy, that's what I have been doing lately. The Hosting is a good deal though if you plan to put up alot of sites. It can add up quickly if you are paying by site. At kiosk you can get a major reseller site for a great yearly or monthly plan.

I have had kiosk since last October. The support is super fast and if you don't get the answer you are looking for, Joel will actually write to you himself. Plus they put on a totally silly blog, driving hummers into the creek etc. Joel Therien's Blog
They just sit there and yak, it's hilarious.


They also have IM interests so like the other poster says they know what it takes to get it done. If they have any issues they are totally upfront with it, they show videos on their blog about what was going on etc.

If you like to go with the crowd, go with hostgator. If you want a personal experience on a great reliable service, use kiosk.ws (not an affiliate link but I have one if you want it. LOL )

Anyways, that's my two cents.
Heather

Musa_Aykac

I think your best option would be to stick with Hostgator, well known and established site you cant go wrong really.

Plus they have some great uptime

Lutz80

Hostgator is ok never heard of kiosk before. But I switched from hostgator to hostmonster and I love it , been using it for 6 months now no problems,

gbm000

I've tried ProWebSpace, Fasthosts and Hostgator in recent years.

Hostgator would be my recommendation, particularly if you're thinking of having a reseller account in the future.

.

andrusito

I have tried TONS of hosting companies, but I've been a happy customer of Hostgator for 3 years now

robofx

theimgroup:
Thank you for the information. I'm a total newbie to internet marketing and I found your post very useful. Thanks. This is my first post by the way, after lurking for a long while.

profitsonline

I used kiosk for over 2 years. Had the platinum plus account @$49.95 per month. But, hardly used the capability of the account. I have only about a dozen websites and just didn't need a high powered kiosk account.

In the last 6 months I have switched to a hostgator business account which costs $14.95 per month. I find that Hostgator is really good and perfectly meets what I need from hosting but at a much cheaper cost compared to Kiosk.

robofx

I read that Kiosk is much easier to deal with regarding problems like somebody making a spam complaint even after they double-opted-in, and how other hosts will just yank your site & ask questions later, but Kiosk will work with you since they know the IM world.

Do you know anything about this aspect of it?

ahlexis

Hostgator also has something else that they recently added to their reseller accounts: unique templates. The only requirement is, the site designed by them must be hosted on a Hostgator server. This might make a huge productivity difference for some people. Login to CPanel, scroll down to where the Fantastico link is and look for it; it's either right next to it or nearby. There seems to be tons of site designs for all different types of sites, all yours for the taking. The quality of the designs were stunning to me.

I have a reseller account; don't know if these are available on the plans that are not reseller.

Also, in addition to chat support, they offer phone support. So you can phone them, email them, chat with them, whatever works best for you. Very responsive and knowledgeable in all the cases I've used them, which were over questions and how-to's, not support issues such as broken sites or things wrong.

aofzagroup

HostGator is perfects now.

robofx

I hope you are right. I just signed up with them and am moving my website over from PowerDNN - which is pretty good, but they specialize in Dot Net Nuke and I just don't like it much.

robofx

Well Hostgator didn't last long for me. They refunded my money about 1 hour after I signed-up. They said it's due to my site is roboticforex.com and "forex violates our TOS." When I called & asked what exactly did they mean by "forex", the kid couldn't say - he just read from the rulebook. "No forex or other ponzi schemes."

When I told him I sell automated forex trading software that I wrote myself via my website and it wasn't anything fishy or scammy, he said oh ok, they'd let me host with them after all & said I should just log back in & pay the new bill. Crazy.

Having no idea what they even meant by "no forex" (and since the boy I spoke with there also had no clue) I decided I'd best host elsewhere -otherwise it seems they could suddenly decide to blacklist me again for their mysterious "no forex" policy and they could shut down my site at any time.

So I'm trying kiosk.ws for their 30-day $1 trial. We'll see how that goes. As I said, PowerDNN wasn't bad - quite excellent, in fact. I just don't like DotNetNuke. Otherwise, I'd have stayed with them. Though they are a bit pricey. $20/mo for just one domain, no frills at all. Very basic hosting. But blazing fast website performance and top-notch support.

monsur

Between these two I recommend hosgator. But I personally don't use any of them.

robofx

Well, based on what I've seen so far with kiosk.ws, they are far far superior. So far. Of course, it's only been a few hours. But they have a real-time chat room with SOUND (and typing also) where you ask a question & support sits there & talks to you in a virtual conference room in realtime.

It's wonderful. They talk you through moving your DNS servers, setting up your cPanel, Fantastico, website - everything. So far, so good.

I forgot to mention: I asked the kiosk.ws guy about hostgator's "no forex" policy & the guy was like "Whaaa? what r u talking about? Of course you can sell your software here. Why not?"

And I just found out: you can have only 4 domains at kiosk for the minimum-price account ($18.95/mo) whereas hostgator allows unlimited domains for $7.95/mo - so that's a major drawback. On the positive side, each domain at kiosk has its own cPanel! They're not just "add-on" domains like hostgator. Which is nice, I guess.

JazzOscar

I've been with Kiosk for 1 3/4 year now and, so far, I've seen no reason to leave them.

I think my lack of experience in having to change from hosting company to hosting company, like many of the earlier posters in this thread seem to have done, also should tell something about the hosting company I'm with.

As for HostGator; I have no experience with them. They might be a very good company for all I know.

mandela10

I think hostgator is better than the other one.

Paul Lear

I host all my sites with hostgator, I've been using them for the past 6 months, never noticed any downtime at all.

Their hosting package prices are also very reasonable.

I'd go for Hostgator if I were you.

Paul.

sourabh_sachan

ya hostgator is good

reynic

They're totally different in one respects: Hostgator is a cheaper because you pay for hosting only. Kiosk, on the other hand costs more because you get hosting plus a forced matrix MLM plan builtin into the cost. Otherwise, they're both good hosting choices.

robofx

This is an interesting observation. I have no opinion as I'm a total newbie to IM & pretty new to webhosting also. I never really had reason to think much about hosting until I discovered IM with its mailing lists, potential for spam complaints & concomitant risk of having your website(s) summarily executed by your own webhost based only on mere suspicion.

Or they take you down because you have a sudden dramatic spike in traffic after a hugely successful product launch (something I'm hoping happens soon with my software.)

These are obviously very serious issues if you start making real money with a website. It goes way beyond cost & uptime & speed of the servers - it goes to the heart of "what is the nature of IM and how is IM different from a "normal" website and does your hosting company understand *successful* IM activity (e.g. mass emails, sudden traffic spikes, etc.)

It appears that kiosk understands and supports successful IM and it appears that hostgator may not - based on my experience with merely signing up with them and having the "wrong" domain name.

And regarding traffic spikes etc, this guy's experience is exactly what I'm suspicious of when it comes to cheap providers like hostgator (I can't post links til I have 15 posts, but it is exactly what I fear with hostgator down the road if I host with them):

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t=876857

But this idea that kios's MLM scheme somehow adds to their monthly cost (and the seeming hint that since it's MLM it must be "bad" - at least, that's what came to MY mind when you said that) - makes me pause.

So I just emailed kiosk and asked them their comments on the idea that their MLM model adds to monthly cost.

I'll let you all know what they say.

morry

I'd just sign up with hostgator already. Don't spend forever deciding on which hosting to use. At the end of the day it's your marketing that will make you the money.

Sean

robofx

I suppose that's true. And if they ever did shut down your site(s) for a spam complaint (even from a double-opted-in prospect who'd forgotten they'd double-opted-in), or because you had a successful product launch and you had a sudden surge in traffic let's say, then you could just move on to a new hosting company & call it lesson learned.

mbaocha

i really guess forex trading remains one of the most obvious online making money venture

dking88

Hostgator is cheaper and you get more but kiosk.ws provides you a passive income opportunity..... I have been with both personally but am now with hostgator b/c of what i get for the price... hope this helps.

David

teleam

HostGator is better

normpurc

It seems to me as if there is a difference in the basic concept of the two.

Host Gator seems to be a cheaper and more generic hosting company that is great for 80% of the people simply looking for web hosting. But it may be of lessor value to the person interested in IM and the long term aspects of such.

While Kiosk is more specialized into the IM aspect. While it seems to be a more costly alternative initially, it will be worth the extra few dollars in the future if you are primarily into IM and the specific issues that are involved with it.

If it is your income that is at stake...
Can you afford the cheapest hosting?

Just My 2 Cents,
Norm

sfstatman

Hello Warriors,


At the end of the day hosting plain and simple is a commodity. You can always find someone to do it cheaper... my recommendation is if your just looking for hosting for a few sites than hostgator probably makes the most sense.


With that being said if you're an IM'er or plan on being a reseller than hands down Kiosk which is now GVO is the way to go. As previously mentioned Kiosk/GVO is run by Internet Marketers for Internet Marketers. It's not just Filsaime who has been a customer for years but almost of the top guys...Frank Kern, Daegan Smith, Stephen Pierce, Todd Gross, Tellman Knudsen, Ewen Chia, and the list goes on. Do you really think guys like that would trust their business to to this company if they didn't provide a great service.

I hope this is helpful... I'm also posting their hosting features below.

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-Dave

Features:
-Your own Web Host Manager
-Create your own hosting accounts
-Unlimited Domains
-70,000 Megabytes of space
-200 Gigabytes of Bandwith
-Unlimited MySQL databases
-Unlimted sub-domains
-Unlimited email accounts
-Unlimited forwarders
-Unlimited Auto-responders
-Top notch 24/7 Technical Support
-FTP access to Easy to use website builder
-Professional templates included.
-Front Page Extensions
-UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply)and power generator
-24/7 monitoring using downtime witness
-Fantastico 50+ easy to install scripts

actionplanbiz

BTW all, i went with Kiosk (soon to be GVO) and it is awesome. i highly recommend it.

Awesome Web Hosting
Awesome support
M-L-M pay structure is solid
i get my own video conferencing room
a professional autoresponder
competition spying tool with resell rights
and supposedly some guru training soon
Video Hosting

but for $44 a month (after a $1 14 day trial) thats a HUGE deal.

ahlexis

Although this is not directly related to either HostGator OR Kiosk, I feel compelled to comment for those who mentioned they have 1and1.com.

I previously used 1and1.com for domains. Great pricing and all, but I had the following problem with them, and at the time it caught me unaware and was a nightmare, albeit a temporary nightmare.

I had one account with multiple domains in them. One domain came up for renewal, and at the time my credit card had expired. Their policy is, all domains autorenew unless you specifically notify them you do not want to renew in advance. And my card, being expired, did not clear. So they froze my account. NOT the DOMAIN that was due for renewal, but THE ENTIRE ACCOUNT! At the time I needed to make changes to a domain that was not due for another six or seven months. This means you cannot even transfer out domains that are not up for renewal yet.

And the thing is, once they freeze your account, getting it unfrozen once you give them updated credit card details is NOT automatic. As a matter of fact, it took 3 days before I could access any of the domains AFTER I provided the updated credit card details.

The reason this bothers me is that every other domain registrar I have ever been with has a per-domain policy and doesn't freeze the entire account for not renewing a single domain.

Another thing. They don't just hit you with the cost of renewing the domain if your card details are no longer any good. They also charge an additional fee that is 2 times the cost of renewing the domain PLUS the domain renewal charge, and this is even if you are only 1 day late with providing updated billing details.

Needless to say, after paying the renewal and all related charges I transfered all the domains out to leave them as soon as I could.

ddistco

I would recommend kiosk over hostgator. I use kiosk and resell the service as well. IF you're interested in having several niches then check out the trial offer for $1.00. I'm offering special bonuses for buying through my link below. LEt me know if you have any questions via a PM...

Mark