AttractSuccess

They teach attraction marketing through video tutorial. They provide alot of free valuable information and resources for building your online business. Their main product "The Renegade Marketer" ebook cost $67 bucks but its well worth it. It alone has been the turning point from making a couple hundred bucks per month to reaching $2,000 per month.

Jays80

Sounds too good to be true, how long did it take to reach that level?

hkay

Is it possible to give some more points on how it helped increase your income...and what is their website

tush

The renegade university is a resource which teaches people especially newbies how to build a profitable business online especially network marketing. It was started by Mike Klingler. He uses the renegade network marketer, a book written by Ann Sieg which shows people who to do build your business without involving friends and family.

What they do is they show people how to attract prospects through social media and web 2.0. They show you how to set up capture pages, how to build content that attracts people and how to market your opportunity, how to use the consultative approach.

It is very possible to make lots of money provided you refer people there. There are many affiliate resources which people must use if they are to be successful online. The university also offers a monthly commission of about $ 20 bucks from every one your refer there. I have seen many training programmes but I highly recommend it for network marketers who don't how to build their businesses online.

tush

The renegade university has been undergoing major changes. Mike, the owner decided to partner with Ann Sieg, the author of the renegade network marketer. The professional level has been closed to new members for about two months. This is because they were upgrading tutorials there. The good news is, the renegade professional is opening its doors April 2. because the demand is so high, you may want to book your place early by signing up for the free version of the university now.

So who is the renegade professional for?
For newbies who don't know where to begin from to attract prospects to them for their network marketing business. They have simple click-by-click tutorials to guide you through the process. It is also for pros who are looking for a resource to train their team about Internet marketing. Their focus is man inly on social media. They help those on a limited budget to get started.

If this interests you, you can PM for the details and how to be on the early bird list

cncbuss

Yep. I agree, Ann Sieg's Renegade Marketing Manifesto is truly packed with very valuable information. If one were to only subscribe to a single resource to launch a new business, I would highly recommend it. I think she's got the right vision. I'm also glad to know that My own program is on the same track.

Rainer

How does Renegade Professional compare to Mike Dillard's products, e.g. Magnetic Sponsoring, Black Belt Recruiting?

Rainer

tush

Rainer,

Maybe I am wrong but we all know that however nice an e-book is, there is always a vacuum that needs to be filled, "the how to". Even those who have the black belt recruiting say they need the step by step guide...

That is what the renegade professional is about.....

It was set up to help magnetic sponsoring/renegade students with the how to, simple click-by-click tutorials of what they need to. Mike Klingler takes people through the process, click-by-click.

In a nut shell, the renegade pro compliments both courses.
Ps: Of course, it may not be a new thing for computer geeks but for newbies and intermediate people, I think it is one of the best trainings one can get.

Hope that helps.
Tush

rbowen

Tush -

I don't want to seem either cynical or dense , but it seems like very clever marketing ... bordering on marketing genius.

I probably don't understand it, but it seems like both Mike Dillard and Ann Selig are asking me to sell my prospects on their product or program first, and then only after we've become "friends" - presumably because I offered them something of 'real value' (as opposed to my relatively invaluable offer ), and then and only then should I present my offer to them. Is that about right, or what am I missing?

The other thing is, how readily can I - or anyone (I've read numerous posts in different forums' threads questioning/complaining about this) - convert these leads to my program, since I've "attracted" them by promoting a way to "never buy leads again, etc.". I can only assume these leads are people looking for a better way to promote their product or program. So why, then, would they want to forget about promoting their thing with this better way of generating leads and instead use it to promote mine?

I do tend to like the Renegade Pro for all it's how-to tutorials, but then again, the doors are still closed to new members, so I can't "monetize" my efforts with new memberships to offset those people who don't join my program and instead promote their own. At least Dillard's Magnetic Sponsoring allows you to do that, but he's very aggressively pushes a lot of (expensive up-sells on you,, once you start down the garden path with him.

I'd appreciate hearing your replies to my concerns.

Thanks!

Richard

tush

rbowen,

Yes you are right. That is what these programmes are about.

I will give you my thoughts about renegade leads because i have done hundreds of consultations with them them. These leads fall into 2 main categories

1. Those looking for "how to". A very big % age of these leads have their primary business and they are looking for ways to solve their biggest challenge, especially finding prospects.
2. Those looking for an opportunity: A small fraction of these people have either been involved in network marketing before and did not do well, so they want to try if there is a better way. Others want to give it a try so they want to get started in the right way.

How do you get the most out of these leads? This really depends on you... but this is what I do. After someone has bought the book, I send them a card to thank them for their purchase. I let them know that I am there to help them in several ways whenever they are ready. In most cases, they call me back. I analyze their needs and this will guide me on what I should recommend in our next meeting depending on their biggest need.

Within the renegade back office, there are several tools which one can recommend. One of those tools happens to be sendoutcards which happens to be one of the companies I represent. For these people, they sign up to have a tool to help them with following up with their customers. For those who are looking for an opportunity, they join my team. This is some how easy because I am on Ann's team and most people love to be on her team because she is the founder of the system. To be honest, if I was building my primary business using the renegade only, it would take a very long time to build that downline...

So, is the percentage of people who sign up? For many people, this is very small, maybe 1 in 50 or 100 leads.. this depends on you as a person and many many other factors, do you have some thing of value this lead sees in you apart from offering the renegade? What opportunity are you offering?

I am on Ann's team. I have been able to sign up people who have their their primary mlm but they they wanted to be part of Ann's team and maybe they seem to see some value in me You see, people join people. They leave your primary business because they feel alone. They want a master mond group...

But, we have to get one thing clear, who is the target market for these tools, is for Ann sieg, it is frustrated network marketers- so mostly, they are looking for how to and mike Dillard, the sales letter mentions more leads so they probably want to learn how to attract leads.....

Renegadepro will help you build your own system. Eventually, people who are going to succeed in our industry are those who are learning how to set up their funnel. I believe this is the best approach, build your brand and put your name out there. Once people come to you, believe me they will, you can recommend anything you want, whether renegade, mike,your opportunity. These people already know, like and trust you. Most network marketing are making a big mistake of branding others instead of themsleves....

True, the renegadepro is closed. But like all membership sites, I believe they will be open soon. They were just overwhelmed by the initial launch. So you can warm up your people to be on the list to be notified....

There is one more thing you need to know, the renegade network marketer has nothing to do with the renegade pro. It is the attraction marketer's manifesto which presels the renegade pro. One can still buy the renegade network marketer and start setting up their systems. Some people may not even need the renegadepro because this book explains what you need. The renegade pro simply simplifies things for those who are overwhelmed.

Are these materials good? I believe so. I use them some where within my marketing funnel but I don't lead with them. I specifically like the renegade network marketer. I always recommend it to my team and those who take time to join my business ie to see if they are serious. It educates people about how a true network marketing business should really be done. This saves me time and of course puts some money in my pocket.

Final thoughts, if you are to be successful in network marketing today, find your niche.. start marketing yourself. Put up your site, blogs, lenses whatever you are comfrotable with.... Eventually, you may need to do what these two gurus are doing.. have a book specifically related to your offer, sell it or give it out for free and you will see how to explode your business. At least, that is where i am heading to....

Hope that helps. Feel free to PM me if you would like to have more details.
All the best.
tush

rbowen

Thanks for the quite thorough answer. It's helpful in trying to decide how to proceed with my Internet marketing.

I have to be honest with you though, I still lean toward my initial impression: it's a very clever (border-line genius) marketing strategy on their part. (smile)

Do you have any experience with or constructive opinion about Mike Dillard's Magnetic Sponsoring, by way of comparison?

BTW, I apologize for calling you 'Tush', which I guess is your last name.

Thanks again,
Richard

tush

Richard,

You are welcome. To be fair, I have never purchased the book myself. A few members of my team have. They say it has good info on how to do ppc. Again some have said that it is a rip off because the book intends to sell them on other programmes.

I advise people to use whatever appeals to them. I chose the renegade because Ann spoke directly to my heart, she addressed what my challenges were. This could even be because she is a woman like me.... There are some people who really love Mike's product and can't stand Ann's materials especially her marketing style. Any product works if you know how to attract others to yourself.

I prefer Tush to my first name, that is what everybody calls me, so that is okay.

Blessings
Tush

rbowen

Interesting. MS is about PPC? I read somewhere that people who'd been using 'PPC Domination' had gotten "slapped" by Google ... and (I'm pretty sure) Mike Dillard's behind 'PPC Domination'. Interesting. Forewarned is forearmed.

tush

The renegade proffessional opens in two week's time. Keep your eyes open if this training is of interest to you.

LAKRAKOW

Can I just add a little to what Tush said,

This is my first post here, but I have been doing my business for a couple of months now and I jut found the renegade system and ordered the book with my last $67. I read it in one sitting and it totally changed my thinking. I think it will work for me. 11 people read my email pointing them to the page and all of a sudden I had 48 hits? I guess that viral thing really works. But one thing it doesn't tell you is that now there is a whole new market to tap, not just people wanting a business of there own, but people who are failing and want out or want a solution. This is the first one I've found (and it was sooo easy finding the digruntled people - that's funny that we are now the "hot market"), and I'm so happy I did because the book was Brilliant, and the system only took a half hour to set up, and you have it free for life.

All I know is, I think I'm finally going to make some bank here. Looking forward to using it to it's fullest potential.

tush

The exact date for the re-opening of Renegadepro is Monday, June 22nd at 9:00 am eastern. It will STAY OPEN for good but there are "fast-mover bonuses " for those who grab it fast.

The good thing is, you can learn what you want in a month... and if you don't want to keep the membership, you can cancel anytime. Or, you can keep it and have it as another monetisation option.. I am really impressed with their training and many other people are... ie those who take ACTION.

oleskool

Just a quick note. I found Renegade University and it has opened my eyes to a new world. I tried Renegade Pro for a month and found that the training is more than I had expected and was not ready to follow the plan to become successful at the time I joined. I followed Annette's suggestion and canceled with the intention of starting up again when I had completed the first task (like read the complete book) which I have now done and now I'm ready to join again.

There is an army of people ready to help you become successful in your business.

I would like to point this training can help you grow any small business not just MLM.

You do need to ready to take action.

tush

I totally agree. I have not seen such a wonderful community out there on the web with professionals willing to help. But YOU must be willing to put in the necessary effort and time. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Ps: If anyone would like to be on our team and grow with us, the link is below:-)

Kurt Henninger

MS is not about ppc at all. It is conceptually about attracting business partners or product customers to you, and the psychology behind that.

PPC domination IS one product that you can purchase after MS, and that one is strictly about PPC.

Both are excellent courses and highly recommended.

As far as Renegade University goes, it is much more geared towards the "how-to" of network marketing on the internet, and is geared towards the absolute beginner. Includes video tutorials and literally click by click instruction.

Hope that clarifies things for everyone.

steveblum

Nothing against Renegade University but I was a member for several months and my results were zero!

They have a ton of great information and after following several of the methods and implementing them I saw some traffic, but nothing to brag about.

I was spending $40 month for this service but getting nothing in return.

I was pretty persistent in posting to my Wordpress blog and submitting articles, but the REAL traffic never materialized. It was almost like there was too much information and not a clear cut plan that worked for me.

So with much hesitation I canceled my membership after being turned on to affiliate marketing methods and the warrior forum.

As I grow in this market and begin implementing the things I learn, I have no doubt that success will come. A new door has opened up and I can't wait to hit it with everything I've got!

tush

Steveblum,

I like your honesty. Just like any prog on the web, nothing is perfect for everyone. The truth is, the methods taught within the renegade pro are what people implement to become successful. This is why I love their training. It gives people all the options they have. We all know that people are different... Right? It is up to an individual to pick one method that appeals to them the most and stick to it...... Once mastered to a certain level, then move on to the next one. I still believe that they deliver what they promise. In my opinion, I guess no one shld stay on that membership unless they think they shld especially if they are using it as a form of monetisation... within three months, one shld have mastered.

Success With Dany

If it's not too personal, can you tell us what method have you FIRST chosen to master so could funnel traffic to your squeeze page?

tush

Success with Danny wrote:
of course it is not personal and it is no secret at all. Myself, I started with site build it which basically takes one through the whole process of building a website that generates traffic. This prog also recommended within renegade professional. If you are not familiar with it, here are the answers to the the common questions people have asked. USING SITE BUILD IT TO MAKE MONEY ONLINE.

Unlike most people, I never started with a squeeze page. I started with a content rich website. Now I have different squeeze pages attracting different target markets. About 90% of my traffic is by SEO from my Site Build it website.

That said, that does not mean that every one should start from Site build it. Some people may not have the patience to go through the whole process. They may want a quick fix . Within the renegade pro, they discuss methods from PPc, blogging, SEO, article marketing, different social media and the list goes on. I believe if some one goes in there, and they have the patience to follow through, they will find a number of methods they will love. The good thing is that they have several superguides and coaches who will help clients find what they really need to do depending on many factors.
Hope that helps.

Success With Dany

Yes, it does. Thanks Annette!

I'm quite familiar with SBI as I even had a website with it but I was probably one of the people that you mentioned that are not patient enough to build a website. I still respect Doc Evoy's vision though.

I peaked at your website and if you had just showed me a link to it,
I would have still recognized the familiar SBI interface, with the categories at the left.

Waybale! (hu hu )

Waybale

tush

Success with Danny,

I really love your language!

Quote:

Waybale! (hu hu ) Waybale.

You must originate from some village in Uganda, right???... ...

So, how is your on line business going? If you hit a jack pot, please let us know and we follow along. And who knows, you might eventually reconsider SBI. I know many who gave up at their first attempts but came back to it and succeeded... . And you are right, my site is a typical SBI website. Although they now have all the tools to change themes and the lay out and spice up the site, my main goal has been to build content.
Blessings.