Organic Prospects

Those are LFMVM scripts right? Brutal. I have a few I've paid lifetime upgrades on, that have bit the dust.

Organic Prospects seem to have a very high CTR rate which gives me confidence in their supposed 75%+ in genuine interest. What's the average genuine interest level of a safelist user that is frantically clicking for credits so they can fire off their own ad? 12%? Who knows. I know these prospects will buy 4CAG at $18. Later this week I'll be testing more expensive offers to see the higher limits of what they are willing to spend.

Once my Traffic Swarm commissions come in I'll be joining. My TS sponsor showed me his stats from about 1k of the prospects and lets just say I was drooling a bit This better work.

This morning I tried promoting my 4CAG link directly instead of my optin page and I'm already seeing a boost. I talked to my 4 Corners sponsor last night and he claims to have enrolled 18 people from these prospects so far. My momentum looks to be picking up as my prospects grow. I have some good converting CPA offers I'd like to test as well.

What CPA offer are you converting well in Thomas?

Same here. Tried 2 different debit cards and 2 different credit cards. I keep getting that error message. These are cards that I use all the time and they work everywhere else on the net. I've also traveled to other countries and used them there and never had a problem.

I sent them several support requests asking them for help but all I get back is that generic auto-reply they use. Very frustrating because I've heard these prospects actually opt-in and make purchases. I would have been in weeks ago except none of my cards will work.

It's frustrating because the generic reply they keep sending implies that it's a problem with my cards, when it clearly is not. Maybe something to do with IP? I don't know but I try once or twice a week anyway. Maybe one of these days it will work.

Could some older members please post a review? This looks shady.

Hey. If I were you I'd work on my copy along the way. Don't hold off until its done. Some of my best email ads came from that goal of converting more sales, under the pressure of knowing my mailing was due in 20 mins etc. If anything it will kick your butt into gear. You'll start collecting leads and will be forced to come up with some compelling copy. By holding off you are just delaying.

You should stick to MMO's. The prospect acquisition campaign uses MMO capture pages ie. people that want to earn money online. So selling a diet/fitness offer that doesn't directly have an aggressive affiliate side to it may not do well. Forex and stock offers may do well but from my experience these prospects are more on the "newbie" side and even I, that considers myself someone established in internet marketing doesn't tackle stocks and forex.

I just finished running a similar test on all my prospects. I was mainly testing for complaints, optouts and bounces on my own autoresponder. Happy to report not a single bounce, no complaints and only 1 optout which is acceptable. Deliverability actually seems a bit higher when using the mailer they supply. I suspect because the optin pages are hosted on the same server the emails are sent from. A tip for the beginners: building a rapport with the prospects in the first few mailings goes a long ways. I believe the trust I've instilled has been a great contributor to my high conversion rates.

Organic Prospects is legit. I've been testing them against UDIMI for about a month.

What I like about UDIMI is that I can only buy from sellers that include buyers in their lists. I'm willing to pay 40 cents + for a click from a seller in UDIMI that includes buyers. The downside of course is the price. 40+ cents per click adds up fast and sometimes I barely get any optins.

Organic Prospects is good VFM. I like that I can mail the prospects in my account as often as I like unlike UDIMI's one time shot. There are no guarantees your Organic Prospects are buyers though. The cheap price and high volume you get makes up for this. I can pay for my entire months membership to Organic Prospects for the same price I can only get 67 clicks from a good seller in UDIMI for. Trust me, even if the 2100/month Organic Prospects aren't proven buyers, I'm going to get a lot of clicks from them from the repeat mailings and they will EVENTUALLY buy (yeah I'm aggressive in my approach)

So in my opinion use both. Scale your UDIMI solos to your budget and keep Organic Prospects growing because they do buy and if they don't now, they eventually will.

Funny you ask that. I sold 70 of my unused prospects for $25 and the guy wants another 70 so he must be happy. I'll ask for more detailed stats on his results. I think there is huge potential for reselling these leads, as long as the buyer doesn't find the service directly and would obviously get them cheaper. I've thought about selling a few on fiverr as well.

Yesterday I closed one of the prospects for $197. Although it did require a few back and forths, it is still nice to know they are willing to spend a larger amount of money. I remember years ago trying to squeeze $20 sales out of people that gave me every excuse in the book as to why they couldn't afford it. Now if you're trying to screen people with qualifying offers like $10-$25 with the intention of upselling them higher ticket items that's a different story.

Is anyone using the [FIRST_NAME] variable or [FULL_NAME] variable in their mailings and if so, what is your experience?

I've noticed slightly higher open rates when using the name variable in the subject lines. I'm not sure how it improves results by using it in the email body as that is somewhat hard to test.

I joined iGrow today to see if it will convert with these prospects. I like the idea of presenting them with a business that is fairly new in hopes they haven't been pitched it before. The plus side of these prospects is that they are exclusive to each member so at least someone else won't be pitching them the same program. Not to say they haven't been on other marketers mailing lists before the were acquired. I'm on at least 12 different guru/marketers lists that mail frequently.

Ironically, as soon as I posted the above, I got a refund from Organic Prospects. Something about problems with billing.

I have to agree with this and I will name names: Twice Confirmed Traffic, USA Leads Club, and now Organic Prospects - they crash the safelists for awhile and then disappear, or are re-born under some other name. I am not a member and I do not know if the leads are any good but I would be careful.

Here's my experience. ..i emailed 1860 the other day for a very attractive offer...op stats say i received 42 hits. ..bitly says only 2...that's a big difference. ..something is definitely wrong here...and of course no sales to show for my efforts.

Wow congrats! I have had my eye on BLW but cannot take on any more opportunities at the moment. Great to hear it is converting. I have sold 3 of the IGrow associate plans at $50/mo to my prospects but they did require a bit of hand holding. It may just be the way the IGrow page is setup. I don't mind walking people through it but it is nice when people join without an extended back and forth.

I put a banner on the top of my last mailing and according to my tracking, I have a confirmed sale from one of the banner click and not the email body URL clicks. I like to add banners at the top and bottom of my ads on occasion to change things up.

I never had and never will. I am strictly a text based email marketer and don't even like seeing them in ads I read, especially on mobile.

My experience with automailers has been it makes me complacent as I'm not as engaged in writing copy. I find I need to work writing emails consistently without major gaps to stay on top of the game.

The only site I use with an automailer is one I haven't logged into for over 4 months. I think half the people on that safelist don't login or read ads. I am convinced without the incentive to stay engaged on a daily basis, people get lazy and the results just don't liquidate.

My Open/Click rates are fairly comparable to yours. I have however seen 3 soft bounces since I first joined. I did move them to a separate campaign and they went through the next mailing. I imagine some type of temporary delivery issue. One of them was tracked back to having made a purchase. Glad I didn't remove these 3 from my account. I continue to use this method of dealing with bounces on my other lead sources, of which are substantially higher than Organic Prospects.

On Sept 7th I imported 1k of my prospects into GetResponse and above were my results. Since then I have have been exclusively using the Organic Prospects mailer due to the fact its no cost. The problem with GetResponse is that the price of their membership goes up as your leads grow.

I'm nearly at the 10k limit which would mean I'd have to upgrade to the $53.30/mo account. That's nearly twice what I pay for the OP leads I'm using in the account! Regardless, that's my reasoning and as long as the OP mailer doesn't start back queueing up mails for days, I'm happy as it does the trick. Here are the stats from another 1k mailing I did with Getresponse.

1k is the max I can do without upgrading my account so, I just use it for 1k batches once and awhile.

21.60% open rate (216 opens)
7.6% click rate (76 clicks)
0 goals
0.00% unsubscribe rate
0.00% bounce rate
0.00% complaint rate

I speculate the higher open rates and click throughs are from the work I've been doing testing my swipes.

Someone in this thread asking for any reviews from older members. Not many I can see thus far. lol

Very interesting. I personally prefer to promote my direct sales page to my Organic Prospects. The reason being it has the least amount of clicks for them to get to the order page. I always thought that by pushing leads through multiple steps there may not be anyone left to reach the page you want them to purchase from. Ideally I like to promote links that have the payment page just one click off the sales page. So one click away and they are on the page to enter their credit card details. I am however intrigued by your approach and would appreciate if you would PM me to discuss further.

Have you ever watched that "Gold Rush" reality show? Basically what Marcel is doing is similar to what the gold miners on this show do with the rock tumbler. They put in dirt and the the tumbler sequentially sifts out rocks of various sizes right down until all there is left is GOLD. Sure it makes sense to send traffic to the page with the least amount of steps until payment, but you will lose pretty much everyone but the occasional buyer. By pushing them through a funnel you build the engagement of the leads that stay with you until the end, which increases their likelihood to buy. I suggest you try both and assess which works best for your offer. I've seen good results using both approaches to my leads..

Thanks for the idea but I must have the worst luck with my timing. I copied your signature line to use in my OP mailing yesterday but Skype has been down off and on for the last few days across the globe. There was even an announcement on their twitter account about it.

Strange it didn’t seem to affect everyone as I work with someone in India that was not affected, but for me I still can’t login or get a password reset token. I sure hope they get around to finalizing a software update sooner rather than later.

*new update* Finally got my Skype password reset token late last night and I’m up again thankfully. This morning I see I got a few new skype contact requests but imagine people couldn’t successfully add me if it was at the time of the outage. I will use the signature for at least a while to see how it goes. Thanks again for the idea..

I'm not using Skype in my mailings because that requires them to download software if they don't already have it. What I am doing is leasing a dedicated voip phone # tht I run with a softphone on my computer. You can pick any city you want in North America for only $1.50 or so per month plus a small per min charge. The only downside of this is you occasionally get calls directed towards the previous owner of the line as people sometimes bounce around between numbers.

I have zero negativity to report about Organic Prospects, only positive. I wish they would work for everyone but there are many variables that influence results, such as amount of leads built up, subject line rotation, email body pull, mailing times, consistency, offer promoted etc etc etc. This isn't a service you simply join, add your link and get rich. It requires some effort on your part too. My 2 cents.

Wow, nice work! Just curious, as you mentioned adpacks. Is Traffic Monsoon similar to MAPS/MPA? I've moved quite a few packs in MPA but it has started slowing down a bit. I imagine because I'm continuing to target the same program to the same prospects for quite some time, with the exception of rotating in Igrow every few days. I'm starting to think variety is key on top of mail timing, as some people may respond to different programs.

Different strokes for different folks per say...

1196 prospects

sent Hfs offer clicks according to trackers 0 their tracker showed clicks of course :s

email sent to organic list offering prospects to sell web design and app creation for me

0 responses

conclusion organic prospects are garbage get a better response from safelists

warrior member since 2007...

Another one with around 40 posts and join date of 2015. Hmmm, very suspicious.

Ok good for you....

My question is are you tracking the clicks using clickmagic or any other tracking tool,

Its good to see clicks but in my case they were not actual clicks...

Try to track your clciks and then let us know your results
Thanks

contrary to that i have not had any issues with Click magic

Its the best tracking tool that i have used...

My question was ok lets suppose clickmagic had a bug,

In my backoffice i had 32 clicks showing for OP,then y doest clickbank recognize those clicks

Its highly improbable that both of them had bugs

Anyone make the best of OP and best of luck

I am happy for you Marcel

IM forums are helpful if seeing how other marketers review things, but many poorly reviewed products I have actually had very good results with. My opinion is to due your due diligence but no amount of reviews from others can replace old fashioned trial and error.

With that being said, I'm finding Neobux is a good gateway program for the prospects before pitching them into more indepth systems. I've converting quite well and have stopped renting referrals (which was getting pricey) now that I can bring in some active ones myself with OP.

Thanks for your reply. I tired on three different computers. Called my banks to make sure everything was ok. OP says everything is ok on their end. Not sure what to do at this point!!!

Just a heads up, I've been using this plugin for the last two weeks and it's been working like a charm. The time i'm saving on my mailings really adds up as the days go by I'm now using Chad French's Peerfly exclusively as my primary CPA network for Organic Prospects (This way I know the acquisitions I get are from OP)