Netcash

I bought CBPirate about a week ago. I must say that I was disappointed with the package. Ok, so I bought it for $4.95 but it didn't say that you will only get partial benefits in doing so. I thought they would pick out the best converting Clickbank products and help us to promote it through our own affiliate link, but all it has is the CBPirate product itself and another product. (plunder and pillage Clickbank for profit?) I am not quite a newbie and find that if I just wanted to promote CBPirate as an affiliate I could have probably done so for free.

As it is I have a website -my own - an autoresponder, a link cloaker, and some very popular Clickbank products, and none of this has cost me anything at all - not even hosting. I have found all this for free and will never have to pay for it. I even designed my own website in a flash while not knowing anything about HTML etc. I am not sure if it will find favour in the way I did it, but this al least helps me to keep track of everything as well.

I can tell you where to get it all for free as well if you like.

bethrobinson

Michael, I'd submit a support ticket and ask. Sunny is very helpful and gets back to you quickly. My guess is that since all the payments will come from CBPirate through Clickbank that the altered affiliate name is necessary to do the tracking to make that happen but you still get the full commission. I haven't made a sale yet, so can't say for sure.

Gary Pettit

Yeah....clickbank pirate is pretty awesome. I joined it the first day and their were a few login issues but the problems were quickly resolved. It's a good deal and since it has a money back guarantee why not try it

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tommyp

Yes, you should.

the ".cbpirate" is just a tracking id. That's all.

It's got nothing to do with your affiliate id.

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boiga1

Thanks for the heads-up!

mogrady

How has commission been for those of you that have purchased and are using the CB pirate? I've seen just a few mentions of commission, curious if anyone is making real money from this system. I'm weighing pros and cons of the system along with all the feedback in this thread.

heruma

I am off to try it tomorrow, hope it is as good as it said it is.

tryinhere

I will give it a thumbs up for now but it is early days, like many i went the cheap option not knowing i would not get all 5 copies, so i would recommend buying the full system ( if i could go back in time )

No real super expectations, it just fits with what i am doing and can see some longer term benefits and also impressed with thier back end support offered to me

gcintermed

When I first signed on, I was disappointed. The members area seemed very thin. But after watching the first webinar, I "get it". Most of the value takes place behind the scenes. Basically, they give you a video squeeze page to send traffic to. And then they've taken their automated conversion process-- free report with CB links, follow-up autoresponder, etc-- and set it in motion with your affiliate links. It's really quite impressive.

The key question, as in many of these types of "business in a box" systems where all you do is add traffic, is whether the profit you earn is worth the time/money you put into generating the traffic. So far, the materials seem first-rate, which is to say that if you were to set up your own sales process, you probably couldn't do much better. And most of us would probably not do as thorough a job with follow-up emails and cross-selling.

You sacrifice some by not building your own brand and your own list since it seems the emails go out from CB Pirate's aweber account with their names in them. And it would be nice to have access to the list you're building. They claim they build your list and promote to it for you, but if you cancel your membership, you lose all that. Maybe in the future, they will allow some way to export or mail to your own list. But as it is now, you're trading off building your own business/list and all the work that entails for getting the profits and letting someone else do the work.

We'll see how it goes, but as of now, I think there is value there, and I'd recommend it.

Maryleena

I also bought into CB-pirate, but then I got a free membership from my MME4 program...nice..But I would not by this program if you know how to do your own adverticing. The onlything you pay for is the mails, banners, tweets and so on, the CB minisites are already on ClickBank itself! They don't provide enough information on traffic generation either, only gives you the promotion tools.

bethrobinson

I'm confused, Maryleena. What do you mean by CB Minisites? I can find the squeeze pages elsewhere?

goody22

Really like the passive income potential for this product since CB-Pirate will follow up and cross-sell to our customers for life. Only time will tell, of course. But we need to be patient with it and let things develop. All we need to do is direct traffic to the squeeze pages.

Graham Maddison

I joined CB Pirate and am now promoting it heavilly on my websites. Looking at it from the inside, I think it is an awesome program which will build a passive income for years to come.
The best bit it is, it is perfect for newbies as the only thing they have to worry about is driving traffic to it, by whatever means.

The bonuses inside are cool too, some of which I have thought about purchasing in the past and can now get for free.

All in all, a good package.

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darrenolander

I agree this is a quality system.. especially for newbies who have no idea what they are doing. It also converts quite well as I have seen for myself

All you have to do is send traffic to the squeeze pages.. and they have extensive training on traffic through the traffic generation 101 course you get free as a bonus.

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bethrobinson

I've been working with Clickbank Pirate for the last 25 days and I've decided to cancel my membership, primarily due to it not fitting within my personal business goals.

I sent traffic and collected views of the squeeze pages via traffic exchanges (6000), safe lists(70), a couple articles(20), and assorted blog posts(70) and received no conversions. I definitely could have done more, but this is where I ended up.

I looked at the sales funnel - squeeze page to free reports to emails to product - for a couple products in detail. This customer-following backend is really the whole point to the membership and I found it to be of reasonable quality and to follow a logical path.

I would have unsubscribed to the email series as being too much sell and not enough info (even though there's a new free report every four to five emails) but I am not exactly the target market either. I seriously prefer low-hype, which is part of the reason that I'm leaving.

The provided promotional materials are a good start. I thought some were from an odd angle but some were very good. The quality varied a little from package to package.

The free blog was okay - you can see more details at Taking Action with Clickbank Pirate if it stays up. I'm actually asking for a refund so it will likely be deleted. If I had conversions and just didn't want to continue I would only cancel and they would keep following up on my previous sign-ups for me (as I understand it.)

The bonus traffic training at Traffic Generation 101 had the flavor of a mish-mash of plr products gone SQUISH. But it was in a neat unlocking each module as you go type of set up and I really enjoyed the bonus interviews. The audio seminars that have been being posted as part of the main membership were well done and definitely worth listening to for more traffic training as it relates to the program.

Conclusion -

If content creation or email follow-up frustrates you then give this one a try. You'll likely still have to do some personalizing, but it could be better than what you're working with now.

If you already sell into the make money online niche then this may be worth it the products that aren't directly in your niche, but as sidelines that you wouldn't otherwise support.

As a newbie taking first actions I still believe it simplifies things in a good way and can be worth doing.

For me, it simplified enough that I realized I wanted to do something else! I want more control and don't want to take the time to figure out how to drive traffic to these sites if it's not easy. I'd rather use that time to build up my own more authoritative site. I do appreciate this program for helping give me the kick in the butt I needed to start taking action and hope I can keep up my momentum.

Pubster

No your not alone. Their support is flooded with What Do I Do Now questions? I've had it for a month and still scratching my head even after going to the webinars. They say just get people to the sites. What sites? What are the URL's to the sites. Is it just my site or all the members sites? Promote to where? I guess it would be great if you had a list to bring to your Blog.
Someone out there just give us a simple breakdown on what to do...please....It's got to be staring us right in the face, but what is it???

bethrobinson

@Pubster

Go into your member's area.
Click on Access Packages on the top tool bar
Click on one of those.
Click on the top link. It should take you to a squeeze page - a website with a place to input a name and email address in order to get the free report that the page is talking about.

That is your site.
It looks the same as everyone else's site who has that package to promote but it has YOUR affiliate id in it. So if someone puts their email into the page then any future purchases they make forever and forever will be credited to you and you will receive a commission.

So what you do now is you do your best to send people to that site.
You can try using the emails, articles, tweets, signatures and so forth that you can see if you scroll down. Personalizing them might be good though.
Look at the traffic training section for ideas.
Yes, it would probably be easier if you had a blog or list already interested in these products.

Use the tracking codes so you know which, if any, of your efforts are effective.
For example, if you write an article then say get the free report at url/art1
And if you use a traffic exchange then input the url/te1 as your landing page.

I didn't have much success but there are others who have. Your choice if you want to continue. If you do, I hope this helped.

gcintermed

I've been dabbling with this the past few weeks... have sent some traffic to the squeeze pages, but got no conversions. Then I signed up with different email addresses to my own squeeze pages, and never got an email confirmation or free report or anything. Not even in my spam box. Anyone else have this experience? Are they having email deliverability problems. If so, kinda makes the whole system worthless.

balara

No matter how good the info is in any program, if one doesn't know how to generate traffic to the site one will fail. People here are saying CBP is a good program for newbies. I argue that it isn't good for newbies as this group of people have the least knowledge of the methods to get traffic to a site, and they have no inkling of how much perseverance and repetetiveness it takes to achieve even a trickle of traffic let alone a flood of it.
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Lisa Larremore

Hello everyone,
I'm new to this forum and new to internet marketing. I did buy CB Pirate and am learning tons of stuff on the site and also here on the forum. There are several people for it and several against it. I hope I didn't make too big of mistake buying it. I plan to promote it as they suggest because I know no other way as yet. I hope to learn a lot more here reading posts.
Thank you for any input.

Sumaryan85

The squeeze page converts allright, but I have never made a sale.

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Sumaryan85

It is not a "quick Rich".. We have to put a lot of effort. But they have training about safelist, TE, forum marketing. very good programs.

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Martyn Walker

I know there were comments good and bad made in the early days but hows it going now that a couple of months have passed?

Beth has provided balanced comments and insight along with her verdict. Is there someone who can do the same with positive (and consistent) results?

Make it a GREAT day!
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RoyChan

I've bought and tested it a month ago. If you are trying to earn a buck or two, you may achieve that objective. But if you are trying to build a business, stay away from this product as it will not build your own list. You will build the owner's lists instead.

Every email that the site sends out will include CB pirate owners' affiliate link; however in the name of the owner of the site plus the owner's link to his own websites and pro-folio.

Buy it if you take MMO as a hobby, otherwise, stay away.

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Mitch Miller

Wow. So you are sending traffic to a webpage that you don't own or control, in order to build a list that you don't own or control? Sounds like a great business plan to me...

Martyn Walker

I wish making money, real money, could be a hobby too!
Well I do to twitter and facebook and that works quite well but I get what you are driving at.

I was hoping to hear from someone who tried and has earned from it, even a cheerleader

Make it a GREAT day!
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tdiwpro

I bought Clickbank Pirate when it was launched and have been working it pretty much as per the instructions and training provided.

I am by no means an expert, but I would fully endorse this product for newbies and experienced marketers alike.

For newbies, a turnkey system really is provided, with selected Clickbank products, splash pages, emails, signatures, text ads, articles and forum posts but, for me, the best part of the entire system is the training. It gives a comprehensive and step by step set of instructions for driving traffic to the splash pages, and the methods could all be used without additional costs. This knowledge, once gained will translate into ANY online marketing project.

Now, with that said, I don't think a newbie is going to generate sales of $1000/mth any time soon, as the CB Pirate ads suggest, but $47 / $97 is not much to pay for training that is this comprehensive and user friendly.

For the record, to date I have generated $74 in commissions, so it does work and my net outlay is now only $23.

For more experienced people with their own lists, I would echo what others have said. This is a plug and play, fire and forget, system that they can offer to their lists and that, no doubt, will provide another profitable income stream.

Compared with so may product creators, Cindy and Soren, have put a lot of effort into creating a product with real value, no "missing" links, and I think they truly care about their customers' results, rather than just being after our money. My only real criticism is that $1000/mth will be hard for most newbies to achieve as quickly as they would probably hope to.

People should also be aware that there is an ongoing stream of "offers", but remember that these are also being offered to YOUR leads too, and could generate commissions for YOU. Just be aware of what's happening and say "no" to them if you don't want them.

Sumaryan85

Agreed... I think I received some email promo to join CB Pirate from my own link lol... I know the target is for my leads.

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pearsonbrown

Look, everybody, the post above with its long quotation, minimal original content and then a signature almost as big as the original content is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Quote sparingly please.

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lifetime

I purchased CBPirate back when it first launched, but I quickly decided it wasn't for me when I realized that any list I would be building would be for the company and not for my own use.

This goes against everything I know about Internet Marketing, which is to always concentrate on building your own list. Therefore, I was quite surprised to see that CBPirate teaches just the opposite.

Yes, this is an EASY plug and play system, and the Lead Capture Pages are fantastic. I even like the idea of not having to write my own followup emails, since they take care of that as well as back-end selling, but still I just can't justify building a list for the company and not even having access to it at all.

And, if that wasn't bad enough, in the followup emails send out to all who fill out your Lead Capture Page, the signature is that of the owners of CB Pirate, so there is no branding here either.

Now, to add icing on the cake, I cannot even seem to get a refund for this program. I can't blame CBPirate for this as it seems to be a problem with Clickbank, but nonetheless, it is very annoying.

The problem is that this is a Monthly Membership site, and I ended up paying the first monthly installment before I asked for a refund, so Clickbank refunded my first installment, but not my original purchase, despite going back and forth about 10 times now. I keep explaining the problem and they keep replying that they have refunded my account.

I will think twice about joining another monthly fee program through Clickbank as it is too much of a pain to cancel or get a refund.

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Chris Cabo

Hi Kristennye,

So far there support desk has been helpful and product is easy to understand.
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snaprfo

Thanks Adam, I was wondering about MMO as well.

Willmarathon

It's good to sell but no good to use? Well, if Jon Olson approves of it,I would be hard pressed to think it is not valuable. I hadn't seen any real complaints CB Pirate about so I decided to sell it on my blog and not buy it. But quite frankly, I think Jeff's Mulligan's CBMall or Pro2 by Rich Davies is better. I have them on my ClickBank affiliate site.
Ah,yes, I read one of the posts above and it reminded me that the reason I sold rather than bought it was that it was a membership site and you always make more money on membership sites
when you sell them and lose more money on membership sites when you buy them.

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Rusty D

It didnt work out for me, but then again, it might have worked for others. Their money back policy is pretty good, which is a plus, so you could go ahead and give it a shot.

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magiclady420

I received Click Bank Pirate as a bonus for my membership in Delta Squadron - still checking them both out. The biggest concerns I see with CB Pirate is that its too "cookie cutter" - how is this going to fly with Google and their duplicate content issues? Also, they explain in their initial getting started videos that you don't capture any of the optin email information when customers hit your squeeze page - they say they aren't collecting it either, so not sure if that's worthwhile. Seems like there are many easier options - like getting a squeeze page template that you can capture customers for ongoing revenues. I can see the allure for someone who is new and doesn't have much knowledge on how to set this stuff up, but I am concerned that there will be way too many people with the very same info on there, and don't like at all that I can't capture my customer base.

If I'm missing something, please let me know. I just started looking at this system and haven't done a lot yet - just the initial training videos.

kbrockm

The concept of Clickbank Pirate is good. The materials offered to use for your promotional activities are adequate. If you're a newbie, this would be a good place to get your feet wet without losing your shirt. I've been using it with some success, although nothing to write home about. I see two main problems with it:

1. As others have mentioned, the list you're working so hard to build is not your own. You have no access to it. They use it to continually sell other Clickbank products on your behalf, but should you ever leave Clickbank Pirate, you lose the entire list.

2. It seems to me they have saturated the market for the products they have chosen to promote. Yes, everyone gets different products. However, there are only about 20 - 25 products altogether and everyone now has five, if they started back in August with the minimum 2 (you get a new one every month). Therefore, we all share our products with many, many other CP users, all using the exact same promotional materials.

I'm still not sure if I'll stay in CP for the long term. Right now I'm at least breaking even. If that doesn't improve by the end of this year, I'll probably quit.

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Phargy

Hello I'm very new to all of this so I think CB Pirate is an ideal package for me. It will do a lot of the work for me then I can focus on the important bit, getting traffic.

If you are new to this like me then take a look at MY blog

prgreaves.blogspot.com/

It seems I'm not able to post links yet.

pearsonbrown

Hi Phargy,

Getting Traffic is both an important and difficult job. But it's not an end in itself. What you are seeking to do is to build up your list. With this product, you do not own the list you build up. Stop paying the monthly fee and your list disappears into thin air. All that hard work gone.

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tryinhere

I am guessing thats your little blog post ? if so here is some useful stuff for you that may help.

When people sign up they should try and use a call to action as the user name, as this user name is shown in the URLs emailed out, for example

/download
/view

and so on it looks better than a normal domestic name, anyway regardless of that there is no doubt its great for newbies, but as above with the post by kbrockm you do not have access to your own list.

As a marketer the owner is doing great guns as people are signing up and paying to build his list in a sense, what a great deal that is i am sure.

I had 2 accounts and have canceled one due to building a list for another person did not seem a good long term prospect.

The remaining one i have i deciding to drop or keep ? but if i keep it i will only now use my own opt in page / form and just back fill the stuff needed with the pirate info supplied, at least this way i get to keep 100% of the list, and in effect then pay a few bucks a month to grab the graphics, reports and blogs and articles.

Even with that its really a tough call to even bother with that part, I will give it another month before making a call on that.

lonicera

I was interested in CB pirate, but didn't find answers to some questions that have bothered me.
What kind of domain names do the blogs have?
Are they indexed by google?
You all are talking about getting traffic is a piece of cake, do you use adwords, articles or what?
So far for me it seems the hardest thing in IM is getting traffic to your sites..
Has anyone using CB pirate actually made some money ?

lonicera

any new comments, earnings with Clickbank Pirate ?

tryinhere

Not sure what it is your wanting to know thats not covered off, the blog is a myname.cbpitae.com site, I doubt very much adwords would support the land pages although some other ad networks may.

There are banner networks who will support some text ads / banners

In many ways its is a great kit for newbies as if they watch what the owner does they can learn from the methods used, or it would be great for a person with a little blog type site where they wanted a neat little bundled package delivered each month with, plr articles, plr blogs, tweets set up,banners set up, forum Sig's set up, land page set up and all auto responder options set to auto and yes throw in the blog.

So for a few bucks they do get a plug play system, the only downfall is the collection of names as mentioned, in reality you are paying to collect names for the owner should you leave, so if you plans are bigger than you own little corner of the world then it may not be for you.

If the system allowed you to plug and play your own awebber account into it then it would be a better package, and i suppose for me it was not worth continuing with as i seen it as a long term non benefit to pay for the collection of names for another person, as mentioned there will be a section of the market who will suit the market for this product and if you are unsure there is a 4.95 trial offer ? (used to be) where you go to log out of the main sales page it will ask for a trial option.

However be warned in that if you were going to do this i would not suggest this option but instead to choose the full package with platinum package for a better long term value, I am not sure if it would be covered by a 60 day money back offer, so check that out.

Deedee11

I am a newbie and like this program very much because I have a heck of a time figuring out all the lego pieces needed to build the ship----if you know what I mean lol. I am looking at this as a long term recurring income stream. I do think the Platinum pkg is a deal---for this newbie. It would take me a loooong time to get this all put together & I wouldn't have any hair left!!!

I know what the concerns are with the list. I just have to let that be for now until I get my other stuff up and running. I have a great new coach and am working on a new site and new product.

I am wondering tho does anyone outsource their traffic building? I am learning it however I did mention I am sloooow right??

Did anyone else stick with CBP and actually work it as a biz?

Seems so many are still looking for the magic bullet-----I know I did for years. Now I am seriously treating this IM as a real biz----and loving it!

Best to you all,
Dee

dtmission

Hello,

I have been with CBPirate for a few months and I had about 1% conversion of the squeeze page, but then no sales.

I read about the new Affiliate Siver Bullet programs and that looks to me a better and more flexible version of CBPirate.

I am just thinking to terminate my CBPirate membership and take one woth Affiliate Silver Bullet, but I am a bit worried that I could loose all leads that I have collected until now.

I am interested in your suggestions

Best Regards

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RoyChan

Hi Mario,

Move on - don't build other people list. Do your own thing; otherwise another year of yours will pass by without any real results of YOUR own.

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Cindy Battye

Hi

Sorry for not responding sooner, I didn't realise that this thread was still kicking on. There are a few things that I would love to clear up, and.. please post any questions you might have. I am subscribed to this thread now, so I will get the notifications.

Wanted to mention, if you cancel your membership, you will get to keep everything that you have paid for. We don't delete your list or remove your blog, or even block access to your members area.

We continue to promote to your leads, using your affiliate links - and we even allow you to keep building your list using the squeezepage systems that you have already purchased.

The only thing that happens is that you don't keep getting new ones.

If you decide to refund, we will shut you down. Everything will be gone.

Hmm.. While I would like to encourage people to build your own list - having your own list is one of the most powerful things you can have... if you are one of those people who is just getting overwhelmed, or just not succeeding at pulling all of the bits and pieces together, then CB Pirate is perfect for you.

It is better to grab a hold of a proven system, where everything is done for you - you just send traffic... we monetize forever on your behalf... than to lose focus, not get anything up, not have a solid followup system in place etc. and do nothing.

Clickbank Pirate also works well when you have got some existing websites with traffic - so that you can further monetize your list/customers/clients. You can use the copy and paste banners etc, to place on your websites - so we can promote 100% on your behalf.

All of the income earned goes direct to your Clickbank account, so - that's gotta be good! lol!

Lemme know if you have any more questions! I will try get back to you a bit sooner this next time around!! haha.

Cheers!
Cindy

sasglobal

Cindy,
I have been a member of CBPirate for some time now. I recently got back on track with sending traffic via safelists primarily. I just checked my stats for this month, and see some conversions but to date still no sales. Am I correct in assuming that conversions in the stats merely refer to people that are responding to the offer on the squeeze page but then not buying? Am I correct that there is nothing I can do to influence the potential buyer once they click on my link in the safelist mail?

Thanks,
Steve

Cindy Battye

Hey Steve!

Yeah, in CB Pirate conversions = when someone signs up to one of your squeezepages. Any sales that you get will show up in your Clickbank account (not your CB Pirate account).

If they are not buying yet, we will just keep selling to them until they do. We are doing everything the right way, creating bonuses, offering the most enticing reasons for people to buy from your emails - so, keep putting people in the system and we will keep working on it 'til you get some cash.

- Cindy

P.S. I am away on holidays, I will be home on the 17th, so please don't be upset if it takes me a bit longer than norm to get bk in here