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I have been in TB for a while now and it's not impressive at all, however it's not a SCAM!
How can people saw the following 2 things at the same time? 1- I'm not getting CREDITED backlinks 2- The backlinks I got made my sites get banned How hypocritical and nonsensical is that? Do bad backlinks get your site banned? You might want to read this Link building myth, getting bad backlinks - Link Building Tips + Link building Services Does Traffic bug suck for link building and traffic generation? For the most part yes, but I have seen immediate surges in Adsense impressions on the sites that I use TB to get social bookmarking links for, but only on the first day. Is it a scam? NO Does it overpromise and under-deliver? YES Is it good for anything at all? Possibly, pay the first month's fees and get a lot of low-end SEO Stuff done for you then cancel since most of the work gets done in first few days any ways. Anyone reading this should start a new thread in the SEO section asking if bad backlinks get your site banned, maybe the more knowledgeable SEO folks will set you straight on that myth. |
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Thanks for posting this. You make a good point. To be clear, I wasn't being hypocritical. I simply hadn't thought of that fact until after I'd made the post. That's all. That being said, you're absolutely right; those two points are in direct conflict with one another - well, at least they certainly seem to be. If the links truly don't exist at all, then there is no issue over which a site could be banned. Your logic makes perfect sense to me, which is why I'm confused about what has happened. You see, although your point makes perfect logical sense, these two facts remain: 1. Many of my sites were banned, when TB was the only tool being used on them. 2. I was not able to verify one single link using Market Samurai or Yahoo Explorer or 2 or 3 other tools I found on the net. I don't get it, either, but that's what happened. Regarding the "scam" point, like you, my tendency in this situation would normally be to simply write off TB as simply a failed loser of a product (or service)... that is, I'd do so if it weren't for the three weeks of email I have with their idiot support department and the kid CEO himself documenting my own experience with this nightmare. The owner knows it's not working, and he admits to cutting corners, yet he continues to show a face to the public that suggests otherwise. In my book, that's a scam. Believing something might be possible if only it could be fixed is not the same thing as something actually doing what the CEO claims it can do. At least, that's the way I look at it. As I said above, if the guy had the honesty and integrity to say... "Yep, I'm having problems, not only with the software itself, but with my clearly sub-standard support department as well. I ask that you bear with me while I make it right, and I'll do whatever you want me to do to keep you as a happy customer." ... then I would go to the ends of the earth for someone with that level of integrity - the level of integrity such as that which I have found exists in the hearts and minds of the vast majority of people here on this forum. But when someone knows good and well that they don't do what they say they can do, but continue to advertise it to others as though it does, that's a scam in my book. Hopefully you agree. If you don't, then I will respectfully agree to disagree with you. Meanwhile, the points in your post are certainly valid, and I'd like to thank you for them. I will also be checking out the link you provided, and look forward to continuing to learn more from you and others here on the Warrior Forum. Either way, at least the truth of the matter regarding Traffic Bug - scam or not - is now out there for all to see, so that people who are trying to make a decision on Traffic Bug can now do so with all of the facts in front of them. That's good enough for me. The truth is out there... ![]() | |
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I checked out that link you posted. VERY good stuff. Thanks for taking the time to provide it! |
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Thanks EZ..
to be safe about this I posted my blog content to my WF blog, too http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/da...stop-lies.html Dan "the Man with ridiculously long quotes?" Mcgonagle |
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Daniel,
I'll be spending more time on your blog in the future. Very strong information. You appear to be a very detail-oriented guy - something I think we need more if in IM. |
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Hi,
I have been using traffic bug now for 2 months and have the same results as everybody else no back links. I don't know if anybody got Michaels emails? He recently updated the UI and created new accounts and bought new ip's. Because of spammers that used traffic bug, many of the accounts where banned or deleted so this is one reason nobody get any back links. If this is true or not is hard to say but it seems strange that he don't get back to people asking questions and explain what happened. I am still a member and will be so for one more month since I just paid so we will see what happens. It would be nice if this worked. |
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First, it's not hard to say if it's true or not. It isn't. Think about it. 1. If no one is getting any backlinks, as he's apparently now admitting, why are all the so-called reports he's sending out saying there are? Both can't be true. 2. Furthermore, why would backlinks that were built allegedly for site A having anything to do with links built for site B? The only way that's possible is if they were both created under the same bookmarking account (assuming we're only talking about bookmarks), and if that's the case, we're back to point #1. 3. (And most important to people like me), if he's now admitting that the backlinks were not being created and/or haven't been any good somehow up this point, what's he doing for all of the people he charged for a service that wasn't doing what he claimed it was doing? Is there a refund? Is there a credit? Basically what I am saying is that you're only reinforcing the point that I and so many others have made here in this thread and on other forums. I think we all agree that at best, Traffic Bug wasn't doing anything close to what Michael R. Roberts claimed it was doing in order to talk people into signing up, and at worst, it was creating problems for our site(s). It is now clearer than ever that he is talking out of both sides of his mouth, telling new people how great it is, and making excuses to his existing clientele about why it's not working, while not offering them anything in return except more grief and utter disappointment, apparently under the belief that the support he's getting from the 30DC folks is enough to make up for all of that. Well? Which is it, Michael??? Either it works or it doesn't! It can't be both!!! I, for one, am receiving his email, in answer to your question about that. However, after my own outrageous experience with him and his joke of a support department, as well as complaints I've heard from other 30DC'ers, I wouldn't do business with him again if he offered the whole thing to me for free for life! If that guy told me that sky was blue, I'd have to go check first to be sure it was true! Frankly, after seeing the high level of integrity I've experienced on this forum, I'd rather go out of business and flip hamburgers at McDonald's rather than having my business depend on the services of such an individual or a company which talks out of both sides of it's mouth. Internet marketing has taken a bad rap for a long time because of a lot of people who could market but not deliver. Traffic Bug and its CEO are perfect examples of that kind of bad deal. I'd pretty much washed my hands of the whole internet marketing industry for that very reason (being tired of being ripped off) until I saw the kind of honor and integrity that many of the people on this forum are practicing. I am hoping to do something about that with my own offers when I get to that point in my own business. From what I've seen of the people on this forum, much of this forum is really all about that - raising the standard for internet marketers everywhere. Frankly, this forum is almost solely responsible for revitalizing my interest in honing my IM skills, which is why I take such great offense when I see companies such as Traffic Bug knowingly ripping people off. The very best you could say about that company and the CEO Michael R. Roberts (and this is really giving WAY more credit than is deserved) is that he's using the "fake it 'till you make it" plan - a program too many people are wise to in this day and age. By the way, if you don't want to take my word for it, or the word of all of the people in this thread - most of whom probably know a lot more about this than even I do - just Google "Traffic Bug" or "Traffic Bug Scam", and read what's there. If you still think it's worth wasting your time or money on after seeing all of that red ink, then by all means, go right ahead! You're a braver man than me! ![]() In all seriousness, do yourself a favor and get your money back while you can... IF you can! Your money is far better spent on programs on this forum which can yield far better results far more quickly, and can do so without practicing "less than honorable" marketing techniques. To Your Success! | |
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I will contact the support and give them 24 hours to respond. If I can't get a satisfying answer I will also cancel and try to get a refund which probably is to much to hope for. |
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But back to point; I think most of the TB users are/were from the Thirty Day Chalenge, and therefore probably not spammers. Quote:
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"This thread should not about the quality of Michael's character, but rather about the quality of the Traffic Bug product. A product is something that members of this forum should be able to comment on and review, but suggesting people's intention to deceive is not what this forum is about."
Amen to that. I've had more trouble with moderating this thread than with all the others combined ;-) Talk about the PRODUCT, not the person behind the product. And certainly not about third parties such as Ed Dale, 30DC or Market Samurai. If you have issues with them, take it to their forums, not here. Otherwise, I'm going to have to block the thread. Pearson |
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I had a feeling about T.B., hence my pass through the W.F.
I just wanted to thank everyone in this thread...for taking the time to articulate your experiences - It has saved me from potentially wasting my time. Additionally, I use and love M.S. (mostly the competition module), but at least I also know now - not to bother with the T.B. feature inside M.S. Thanks much, Doug |
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Used it from a month but cancelled got no real benefit from it
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Anyone tried the link juicer? I switch from it to traffic bug.
I use these kind of service for link variation, not really using it for ranking purpose. |
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Guys and Gals I just wanted to say something here.
The one things that this thread has highlighted for me is that There is an incredible opportunity here to build software or a team of people to do what traffic bug is supposed to do, but to actually make sure that it gets done. I to had the same problems with Traffic bug as everyone else and I was desperate for it to work and it sounds like others are also. It sounds like we need this time saver for a reasonable price. Why don't one of you expert programmer guys or some who has or can get a cheap but professional team of people in place that can do some of this stuff manually and then automate the rest with software, make this and make it work. If I was not snowed under with other things, I would probably look into getting someone to do this for me myself, and then actually sell a system to you guys that worked. Thats all we want at the end of the day - something that actually does what it is supposed to and what it promises to do - that's not to much to ask is it. ![]() Maybe the new version of bruteforce will do the trick, but I have my doubts. But there is obviously a big whole in the market right here, someone please snap it up and build something that actually work. |
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As for me, the day I can afford it, I am going TS. Ritesh Full disclosure: Am not an affiliate, not a customer of TS. But have just heard good things about them. | |
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Wow glad I checked, I was ready to sign up and thought I would double check the good old warrior forum, think I will pass on this one..
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I feel the exact same way as many of you.
I was delighted with this tool and was almost sure it would be a big help. So I started the trial at TB when it started (more than 3 months ago I believe). I had two almost new sites with at most 5 backlinks to each, so I used them with Traffic Bug, it told me at the end of my trial that I had over hundred bookmarks and about the same directory submissions, but at that time I couldn't see any results, at all, and I felt that it just wrote it made those bookmarks but not really did it (now I'm sure). And now over three months later I have only between 10 and 15 backlinks on those sites, I'm glad I stopped the trial. I must say that the directory submissions must have been delivered as I had to confirm some of them, but they are not helping anything as they never got published because of all the wrong categories they were submitted in. Kim Celinder |
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I've been using it and find it to be a decent system for submitting sites to RSS directories, social bookmarking sites and directories. Previously I was software where you would have to create accounts and fill in capcha codes. With Traffic Bug, you just fill out all the site details, add about 5 alternate titles and descriptions and hit submit. So it saves you a lot of time that way not having to create accounts. That's what I signed up for.
Now, I know it is actually doing it's job because I'm getting emails all the time from the directories my sites are being submitted to and I have seen extra backlinks appearing pointing to my sites and the sites are doing fairly well too. Those I used to have trouble keeping in the top 10 which would sometimes not even be listed at all, now seem to be fixed in the top 10 or 20. As for social bookmarking, you probably won't see much benefit from that in the long term. If you're promoting blogs you really need to be submitting each individual post to Traffic Bug, but set to medium aggression. If you have Market Samurai, it's built into that. |
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I might need to put up a new site just to test this... too many bad comments here and the owner don't even bother to answer some of the questions in this thread.
I've been looking for a service like traffic-bug, and it seems very promising to me, just didn't use it for ranking but for varying my links ![]() If everyone don't get any links from it, that means something is wrong! Let me test for another month before any conclusion made... |
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Traffic Sage is a different beast altogether and I have heard it is a fantastic service, but you would need to have a converting website, already be making money and have some other things in place in my opinion before it becomes a viable option for most people. With Traffic-bug it was at a price that many people could afford and if it just did what it said it would it would be an amazing service. The affordable price point for traffic-bug made it very appealing and the time saving it could give you was outstanding - if it only worked.
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Saying it does, and that the backlinks it creates are "invisible" and it brings more traffic and all the submissions bla bla bla, is like the story about the "Emperor's Clothes" Too bad... I've just purchased Bookmark Daemon and it DOES what Traffic bug "apparently does" | |
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The 30 day challenge people have a great funnel they're using to direct people to this service. I'm checking it out during the trial. I figured why not. It's not user friendly and still seems very beta to be charging people for it. They should finish the software and then roll it out. People might pay for the finished product but filling the net with negative reviews before your product is ready for prime time only hurts you.
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I thought that they should have been offering free membership for more time than what they were offering with the trial membership and even the amount they wanted to charge for membership, I said to them I thought it was too much and I received a reply saying that it cost a lot to run the website and that that would be the membership fee. It is such a pity that the owner hasn't seen that to bring people on during a beta testing time, offering membership at a discounted rate when it goes live, goes a lot further towards developing the product, in a positive manner, rather than the negativity that now accompanies it. He should have had us in there helping him iron out the bugs from our feedback and then when it was bug free, launch it to the greater market. A product such as this, when it works well, will sell itself through the viral promotion of user happy members. It's as simple as that
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hi all, i'm new here.
i bought traffic bug and can say for certain that they absolutely did not deliver for me. after two months of paid membership i cancelled my account. i emailed for a refund as i had received 0 backlinks and didn't get one (wasn't surprised really) not only did i not receive any backlinks, i also wasn't getting any other links i created manually picked up. i can't explain it, but after having cancelled just last week, i am now starting to receive backlinks to my first IM site, which leads to conclude that for some reason the TB system affected my site. I'm glad i have nothing more to do with the TB service. The cheek of it all is that i was told that it should take 2-3 months for backlinks to appear. Now, to give TB the benefit of the doubt and assume the service is frigging incredible, why does it take 2-3 months for backlinks to appear when BLinks can appear much faster doing things manually? |
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Just to share my own experience. I started with TB with the 30DC. I have diligently put all my posts and web 2.0 properties into the system over the past months but i can't say I've seen any real benefit.
I decided to put up a static site with lots of pages and submit the site into TB with moderate aggression set. Since 29th Sept (just over 6 weeks) i have had not one link despite TB claiming to have made 43 URL bookmarks, 69 URL Directory submissions and 139 search engine submissions. Not very impressive. Draw your own conclusions! |
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Just had an email from 'Ed Dale' but I think it's Dan, promoting Bruteforce, which appears to do a similar thing.
Very nice intro video that tells you, well nothing. You get a 7 day trial but we all know that isn't really going to prodce backlink results. It does promote the idea of backlinks just like TB did and it's all very well to say it's worth it for bookmarking but lets face it most people bought into TB for backlinks even if they wer going to be low quality and 3 months down the line. My problem now is I trusted Ed Dale's judgement and now I'm waivering. If I start to lose faith he becomes another IMer flogging JVs. And that would be very sad indeed. |
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Let's keep comments about Bruteforce to a new specific thread.
Please post your thoughts on Ed Dale to the 30DC forum and not to here. Thanks, Pearson |
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