Prosper University.. Prosper Coaching (Mike Filsaime)... anyone know much about it?

Hi Andy,

keep in mind i have no experience with mike or prosper, but if this is the same prosper im thinking of.. i believe they are an outsourced coaching center. im pretty sure anyone can hire prosper to do there coaching for them..

i think robert allen also used them before or does use them.

That's great guys, thanks for your help!

Andy

Hi Andy,

Do you enrolled in the prosper coaching program? as I also received the call from them today.

I am always hugely skeptical over any training institute that call themself a 'university' that clearly have no beer drinking clubs for their undergraduates

Haha. Thanks for your input guys. Good point about the boozers. Every uni should have one.

I never went the prosper route in the end. I think I have a pretty good handle on IM anyway so am just moving forward my own way. It's been a good decision I think.

My experience from Prosper came from Robert G Allen as well and I unfortunately did sign up. I asked specifically if they could help me with certain items before signing up and they assured me that they could give me all the professional help I would need in that area. After joining while trying to ask for assistance I was told that I would need to contact a professional for that type of help. I was annoyed but by the fifth time I heard the same answer to my questions (all of which were in different areas) I realized that prosper has no interest in helping you in any form except for separating you from you money. If you decide to work with them I would recommend that you record your conversations with them so that if you decide to take them to court, you will have proof that they made promises and proof that they did not have any intent of fulfilling those promises when they do not answer your questions. It's a good thing you decided to skip the program in my humble opinion.

I almost signed up, but this was for another marketer about 2 years ago.

They tried to get me interested in drop shipping, also.

Thankfully, my bank rejected the transaction because it was from overseas.

As a result, I had time to step back and think and decided not to go forward.

And yes, the fee was the exact amount that was available on two credit cards. I can't remember how they got that information out of me. But they spent a good deal of time building trust in the conversation.

The sales process was akin to that of a used car salesman complete with a sales person, the sales manager and F&I closer at the end.

It wasn't too long after that in which I was forced to leave being a Boarding School Houseparent, so I am thankful that my bank said no. The Lord protects us sometimes when we are too stupid to protect ourselves.

When I think about the explanation that I would have potentially had to give my wife, I cringe.

CT

I just got off the phone with a guy promoting Stephen Pierce's coaching program, which I presume is Prosper. Same deal, needed to prospect me. Asked me questions (none financial though interestingly), I indicated that I already had considerable knowledge about Internet Marketing and Making Money online. He of course pried into what I was doing, where I was making money, etc. Then he began to suggest that perhaps I should develop my own info product and that their program could 'guide' me in that direction.

I know well of Stephen Pierce, certainly he is well known for making a whole lot of money online. But if I felt compelled to be coached into his 'system', why would I go to a outsourced coach...Kind of an insult I think to people that might otherwise be interested in (premium) learning, directly from him.

I followed along, out of interest in the process. I have received calls like this before, Mike Filsaime, Skip McGrath, PPC Classroom and now Stephen Pierce.

I am not going to bash these guys, perhaps the 'right' people, following Prospers outsourced service, do well. It bothers me that they farm out the service, but that doesn't mean its a bad service. The problem comes when we want it to succeed, we want/need money. Moving a bit of the responsibility of generating that money to some consultant that offers to 'hold your hand' is enticing. Before making that leap though, understand that regardless of wither you use a coaching system, or a online guide or whatever, you will reach points where considerable work needs to be done. This is where I think most people clam up, all the work and so many tasks that most don't have a lot of experience with (if any); research, hosting, building a website, developing Hoards of Unique content, email follow up series, pdf guide, video, graphics, seo, then backlinks and more backlinks.

This entire system is already well know and documented in a 1000+ different ways. Right here on Warrior there is a wealth of information on all these topics, and there are plenty of folks offering these different services. If you have already done a whole bunch of 'systems' then you probably just need to start doing something, develop your own plan, coaching might help with that, but it is something that can easily be done by yourself. I don't know what the success rate is of these coaching programs. Personally, its not for me, but I don't know that I would out and out call it a scam, they do provide a service, but ultimately it is still up to the student to take action and do the work needed to actually become successful. It is simply unrealistic to expect any system to do it for you, there is a lot work, some can be outsourced, some can't, lots of learning to be done, trial and error, failure generally before success, and time. I'd suggest looking for a cheaper guide/system to get started.
JeromyS

I don't know where these guys get their information from but I received the same call today and I almost paid a hundred dollars for a coaching program that I really need and can't afford right now mainly because they used Mikes name! Otherwise I would not give them the time of day! I should have known better, if something sounds too good to be true it usually is! Thank goodness I decided at the last minute to check it out and the first item I see is the letter from someone in the UK. And what was really strange is I don't answer long distance calls because they are usually bills and the first call I get from this guy is a local number!! GRrrrrrr! So I took the money I would have given to this......well it is not really a scam but I don't think Mike Filsaime has anything to do with it either and they implied that Mike had taken a personal interest in me LOL, what a dork! Anyway I paid for a membership in this forum and I believe I will get all the coaching I need right here! I just hope that I will also find a way to give back as well ;-) Glad you were here

I have received calls as well and all I hear when I listen is want money and more money. If you want this much it cost this much but if you want that it cost more... blah blah

I am sure there is some value in them if you have nothing better to do with your money but I really think if you are dedicated enough you can get all the help you need here for free.