treysmith

GetRichQuickforums guy: Yes, we turned the spanish campaign around.

If you'll look at the last video of Screw Google, you'll see where we got our first sale after switching products from Rocket Spanish to a different Spanish product.

In that video, we also discuss the strategy of trimming dead keywords ...and we show you the keyword that works.

Since the last video was filmed, we've made more sales in that campaign and turned the campaign profitable by implementing the strategy we outlined in that video.

We've also added a video showing how we turned a profit in another niche immediately ...using another ad network. This new video is in the members' area.

(NOTE: It is unusual to turn a profit immediately. You usually have to go through the "trimming" process we outline in Screw Google.)

IMM members will be able to see the progress of the spanish (and other) campaigns as time progresses.

thetechguy

Thank you Trey - I like that you guys are "out there" in the trenches so to speak answering our questions.

veotis

Uh, what? I thought this thread was about Screw Google...

Wednesday

A N00bs perspective...

I have read this thread and wanted to toss my hat in being a complete internet marketing n00b. For the $1 I paid I was introduced PPC marketing for the first time.

I am a cpu geek and worked for an advertising agency for the last 8 years. The company I worked for thought they were on the cutting edge of internet marketing and I now know that not to be the case...

This is how my last week went and why this was a pretty valuable dollar for me personally.

1. Saw Frank do an interview with AR.
2. Bought Screw google
3. Implemented right away to learn the PPC methodolgy
4. Learned about how google works. How adsense works. How to create large amounts of keywords quickly.
5. Researched Kearns career
5.5 Researched SEO, Article Marketing, Back linking, outsourcing etc
6. Downloaded a pirated video capture of a seminar talk he did from the pirate bay. Got very motivated.
7. Found the warrior forum, read most threads.
8. Found Stompernet. Took them up on all their freebies and consumed massive amounts of pointers (Quite a few that pointed out why SG wasnt a good approach.
9. Through this forum and SG I found out about no less than 10 tools for market research most notably keywordspy...etc
9.5 Spent hours doing market research to see what people were doing and who the percieved heavy hitters are.
10. Last but not least, I have an interview on Thursday with another advertising agency that wants help in the online space and guess what... That $1 is probably gonna land me the job.

So, if you are a robot and need to follow a method mindlessly then you are going to fail in any business endeavor you try. If you take and assimilate the information around you and incorporate it in a coherent serious business strategy, toss in a dash of Anthony Robbins massive action, you will at the very least gain great experience from your failures and have the potential upside that could change your life.

My mind is reeeling with the possibilities..

Thats what $1 bought me....
(I did however cancel the monthly because I did not see the value there..)

MarioSotojr

All I can say they make if fun and simple. It's great content, fun to watch and easy follow. I've already seeing a return on one of my niches. After watching the videos it's straight to the point no fluff.

Thanks Frank and Trey

CDarklock

He answered this almost a month ago, and you missed it:

Screw Google - Infomillionaire 2?

The Copy Nazi

I just read an absolutely fascinating post from Frank on his Mass Control site on the real story behind the FTC bust of his back in 2003. And I must confess I'm a bit embarrassed as I've been busting his ass all over the net on that one. I don't agree with some of the stuff he does but overall I find him highly entertaining and a bloody good marketer. And writer. So read this post. Here's an excerpt -From http://masscontrolsite.com/blog/?p=57

richandgreedy

Frank is the man ! Well he appears to be anyway .. Ha! We buy all his stuff and it makes us money period end of story. Buy screw google then ACTUALLY go through all of the information then ACTUALLY put into practice what you learned and you will make money. The key is to TAKE ACTION on Kerns stuff not just read it.

elliot

I'm a member of Info Millionaire and LOVE it.

I used the Ninja program in the first package which brought me in $220 on my first day of using it, which may not seem big to most of you, but before that I seriously had more zero's in my clickbank account than in the binary code of the first ever computer!

Anyway Google changed some stuff and put that to an end - So Screw Google. Since I've been using SG im now starting to get that clickbank account back up their again!

I appreciate all the info Frank and Trey teach us! I think for some of the people complaining you wanna try working at Home Depot for a little more inspiration to use this stuff and get the hell out of a day job like me.

Frank said in an interview with Tony Robbins that he wants to help people just like me. So thanks to programs like infomillionaire I am starting to see some hope after all! Thanks guys!

One tip for others using SG - Use it on physical products too

korme

I found Franks support system to be spot on. fast and efficient. I had no problems with the support system and the videos were great.

ThomasBartke

One of the best things about Infomillionaire is that nobody ever cancels their subscription (except the 2 or 3 people who said they did in this threat.)

So, Frank & Trey - when will you open up an affiliate program for IM2?

Cheers,
Thomas

Bullett

Does anyone know what's coming up in this months INFOMARKETING MONTHLY? Paid the dollar to join up...just paid my first $97...wondering what frank and trey will be doing if anyone's heard anything.

publicidadeba

Dude,

I will start the Screw Google method very soon....
But i would like some recomendations

1 - Product to start

2 - Amount of cash to start

is 50 USD a good start?

thanks all

frank-kern

@publicidadeba: It's really impossible to say how much you need to start ...as that depends on the keywords you're using, the conversion rate of what you're promoting, how much you're bidding, and so forth.

I advise people to test small at first.

@BULLETT: We add 3 new videos, a new article, and a new Q&A video each week.

Have you noticed all this new stuff? Having any trouble navigating the members' area?

We're here to help. Lemme know.

quickregister

Ok I paid the $1. to find out Frank Kern's "secret traffic system." Ok no big secret it is Yahoo Search Marketing. I have been experimenting with Yahoo search marketing but found that it converted less than Adwords for the same campaign. The problem is that Google will slap you silly. One moment your campaigns are going great the next moment you have to pay $50 per click for obscure keywords. I like when Google tells you that your quality score is low. You can have a blog about dog food, bid on the term dog food, and Google says your site is not relevant. Yahoo is much easier to deal with. They are much more straight forward.

Kern mentions to keep the content network box unchecked. He says that this traffic converts less. I had it checked on my campaigns. He also recommends to track keywords to see which ones are converting to sales. I had not done this. Perhaps using these two techniques would put my campaigns over the top.

I cancelled and did not pay the $97. per month. There is lots of good info in there but I already had plenty to work on. To his credit they cancelled and sent me confirmation.

I did a review of the system on my blog here.
Review of Frank Kern’s Screw Google System

I would be interested in any stories of people who thoroughly tested his techniques. Case studies. Good luck. Matt

publicidadeba

Frank or Trey.

LittleMike said a bunch of things about SG system and you guys didnt even answer back, i think many members here are a little concern with yours guys silence on this matter.

PS: I dont think LittleMike is right on any point.

Greg guitar

I've got a question for you Frank or Trey, if you're still reading this. Let's say we do campaigns like you recommend where we target huge numbers of low cost, but also low traffic keywords.

It seems like a cool strategy, because if you have 17,000 keywords producing an average of only 1 visitor a month, that's still enough traffic to make 85 sales at 1/2% conversion. If the average cost was only $.10, then the traffic cost $1,700.

Anything over a $20 commission in that example is profit. If we chose a product that pays $50 a sale, we make a $2,550 profit. That's great so far, if that all works out.

However, the next step is to refine the process, "trim the fat" as you say. Figure out where the sales are coming from, and eliminate unprofitable keywords.

Sounds great but I'm not sure how accurate you can be in figuring profitability when your traffic is spread out among so many keywords.

In other words, even if the salespage converts at a whopping 4%, that means on average you need at least 25 clicks to get a single sale.

So if each cheap keyword produces an average of 1 click a month, to give it a fair shake you need at least 25 months to test it. Otherwise, maybe which ones produced sales are due to random chance, rather than indicating their superiority.

I hope that's clear enough. I guess I'm thinking if you're bidding a dime or less for huge numbers of obscure keywords that get tiny trickles of traffic, maybe you have to look at them over a much longer period, like a couple of years, to really know that you have a meaningful sample, and can confidently "trim the fat". Thoughts?

publicidadeba

Guy look up "Is New Money Masters TRULY what you think it is?" at google.

this guy is talking about how Frank Kern method will not work that well...
Im really confused now

veotis

You're going to have to make that decision YOURSELF. I watched some of the video you referenced, and although it's only around 6 minutes long, I stopped around 2 minutes. Who is that guy? Really, who cares? He has a motive, you can rest assured for that. Also, he is not referring to what this thread is about, which is Screw Google - Infomillionaire 2. All I can tell you is that you can try the Screw Google system for a whole month for a measly $1. It's real simple, and you can cancel before you are charged $97 for the second month. Like anything, it takes work ( not ditch digging work ) to find what works and what doesn't. It's just like anything else that deals with making money on the internet, you have to test, test and did I mention, test, to find out what works. You don't have to invest a lot into your research, but, you do have to invest something. You see a lot of complainers who obviously don't make any money on the internet complaining about having to spend money. Well, duh, to get good at something no matter what it is you're probably going to have to make an investment. Doctors, lawyers, pro athletes, etc. all had to do some initial investing into their careers before they reaped the rewards. Good luck on whatever you decide.

KA

Hi, Im a newbie to IM, and Screw Google was my first try at PPC.

This is my experience with Screw Google:

Videos were fun to watch and easy to follow.
I started setting up lots of campaigns very quickly.

In the last month:
20 campaigns
7 products sold
$300 commission
$400 PPC

Yes, I have lost $100. I technically shouldn't mind that, since the whole point of the system is to "trim the fat" and make it profitable, but my problem has been:

- Even with high gravity CB products, they convert at less than 0.5%
- each campaign has taken roughly a month to sell one product (if any)
- One sale doesn't give me anywhere enough information to trim the fat

So at this rate, its going to take me a few months or more to get enough sales before I can "trim the fat" All the while, Im losing money on the PPC campaigns.

So, Im still a bit unsure about this system, and don't really know what to do from here.

This is just my honest review, and I'm open to feedback about it.

MoneyPlus

I signed up for the $1 trial and watched all the videos during the trial.
They have a totally cool method for doing keyword research, and then submitting
the keywords to Yahoo at rock bottom prices and tracking the results.

Money is tight for me right now, so I had to cancel. I had no problems at all.
Their system rocks. It's totally worth checking out and if you have to cancel,
you won't have any problems.

papeter

I suggest to go post your question in their members site as each week they produce a video answering all the questions asked.

Tyrome

I absolutely agree with KA. I bought the Screw Google method and love PPC since English is my third language and therefore I'm not the biggest
article writer. However Frank and Trey are going for the small keywords and it doesn't offer you the opportunity to trim any keywords down fast enough. I simply didn't get nearly as much traffic from Yahoo as I do from Yahoo. I think that Frank's and Trey's method has flaws but it absolutely is worth the dollar and everyone who even considers getting into PPC should get it. I also canceled my membership and got emailed back within 48 hours so no problems with that at all. Their videos are amazing and the keyword research introduces some really good, new ideas. By the way there are gray hat techniques out there which allow you to direct link on Google.

Be successful
Tyrome

EagleRock

Just wanted to chime in - I bought this when it came out and I made more than $200 dollars in sales on the first product I tested. I scaled back on the wasted keywords and ultimately ended up cashing a check for just under $200 from Clickbank for about $90 dollars in ads. Not too shabby for a guy who's never used PPC before.

Now, 2 things:

1) My sales disappeared. I don't know what happened, but after this wonderful string of sales the first two weeks or so, they just stopped. It's been two full weeks now without a sale and I have no idea what happened. I haven't touched the campaign in the last two weeks, and the only changes have been that Yahoo bumped the quality score of my ads, my average ad position has improved to 1.2, and I get more clicks on the same good keywords.

I've got to assume that the merchant did something on his end to the site, but the site basically looks the same and I have no idea what it could be. I'm considering emailing the guy and seeing if he did anything differently, and I'm considering plugging a different product into the same campaign.

2) My other campaigns haven't performed as well - in fact, much like Frank's first example, they haven't made any sales at all. That said:

- They've been dirt cheap; the average CPC for the buying keywords might be above my limit
- I might not have a good matching set of keywords for the product
- The sales letter might suck.

Who knows? I'll be swapping out these offers in short order.

In any event, I MORE than made back my investment in the trial, learned something new, and have a solid foundation to build off of.

If Frank or anyone else has an idea why my first campaign might have gone from hero to zero overnight, I'd love to hear it. It just seemed to be ramping up and up, and then it went in the ****ter.

Fphilip84

I'm not really sure why my post was deleted? Anyway I'm just curious where I can find the video on overcoming the Stat202 hurdle. How do I become a member to watch the videos?

si588

i wanted to buy screw google but you cant get it anymore so i downloaded it but i cant get past the stats 202 part.

Can someone tell me how to get past this problem. What is shown in the video.??

I would buy it but you cant anymore. not trying to cheat anyone out of money especially frank who gives constant value.

anyway if someone could help out and also give some value to someone who's trying to make things work that would be awesome.

thanks guys