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There were a few threads going around with peoples honest reviews of Affiliate Jump, but they all got deleted because the "Creator" of the product was brought into the discussion. I think it is very necessary to have honest reviews of Affiliate Jump. But we should follow a few rules. -The creators of Affiliate jump are two gentlemen names Mike Filsame and Joe Holland. Say whatever you like about Affiliate Jump but do NOT mention the name of these two people nor their companies or other websites. If you like the product or don't like the product. Then mention ONLY the product. Not the creator. If you need to make reference. Then just refer to them as "The Product Creator" not by specific name. This should provide warriors with a good platform to provide honest reviews for those thinking about buying and keep the personal attacks out of it. . Ok - Go for it. so...now tell me. What do you think about Affiliate Jump? I know people have some opinions. |
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| Pete Young War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: downunder
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I am still open to the concept of affiliate jump, like many i am unable to use the system as it is inoperable and has been since purchase I understand that there are glitches from time to time but the most frustrating part is there is simply no feedback from any source This in turns leads to frustration and then to people having no option but to file for a refund I would like a rep to inform us as to the current standings and progress being made at affiliate jump so that we are not flying in the dark here. thankyou |
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In our country when a witness appears in court that the prosecutors don't want identified they become witness D565 or whatever number is deemed appropiate. I wonder if we should give product creators an anonymous identification - say B1 & B2. |
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I was not referring to any product creators in particular...rather saying to avoid any trouble we should refer to product creators in general anonymously like B1.
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And what is affiliate jump agin? :-)
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Ok - I don't believe in senseless slashing and saw a lot of it on at least one thread that was removed. Too bad people got out of control as there was a lot of good evidence presented amid the nastiness. I am experienced in CPA mkt. A small part of my work in the arena involves a few partnerships with a group of 'worker bees' that do the promotion work on our offers under my CPA accounts. We split proceeds 50/50. A good deal for all. That said, I set up a Affiliate Jump account because I figured at least some of our promotions might setup really quick - saving me work and decreasing the time to pop out a new campaign. Never intended to replace my CPA affiliations - just add the 'quickie' setup to the mix. Also - the widgets looked interesting. Widgets are easy enough to do without AJ but - again - (I thought) a really fast campaign builder may be worth a look. One really important selling point was the mention that pages produced could be either hosted on AJ's server -or- privately (my own servers). I really liked the idea that the pages (supposedly) could be exported and hosted on my network because we could then do a bit of quick Quality Score adjustments for Google. PPC without such adjustment is, at best, over the top expensive if not impossible. Well - let's be clear... this important feature simply does not exist. Think of the ramifications of that single bit of, what?, hyperbole? Below is my experience with Affiliate Jump. In my opinion the system is not ready for a paying public. The page was put together to use as evidence of the broken system in my efforts to receive a refund. The links show nearly every effort to use AJ. Again - I know what I am doing and have checked and rechecked the setup features and options. it5150 (dot) com (slash) affiliatejump I would like to think the Affiliate Jump management team knows the value of hard earned reputations. And that issuing requested refunds for unfit, unusable product is the honorable way to fix the current problem -AND- to assure customer loyalty. Come to think of it - I would be a hell of a beta tester! ;-) I just don't want to pay for the privilege. | |
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Email opt-ins are the biggest problem. Nada in terms of walking away with the "list". I saw nothing that even reported list details or segregated sales from email followup sales. Wonder what happens if an opt-in I produce at my expense buys after I cancel my account. (Not a question.) We mail our list 3 times per month. It produces $465.00+ per thousand, per mailing. I wonder if the person that said "the money is in the list" is a AJ super affiliate. (Not a question.) Widgets are all about money. We've been playing with CB widgets. I protest the oversized AJ logo/link and I never received an answer to my inquiry about who receives a recruit commission if a click on the logo leads to a new AJ member. Keeps gettin' better. Oh yeah. Not receiving a single email response to my 3 support requests in 5 days caused me to call the phone number on the Paypal charge receipt - a recording directed me to a website - which directed me back the original support form. I dug around and found a link on one of the support sites and found: "If you need to speak to our HelpDesk Team Manager you can always email:" (I pulled the email address to stay friendly) Actually I could have left the email address in because it bounced: "Remote_host_said:_550-5.1.1_The_email_account_that_you_tried_to_reach_do es_not_exist." Wow - my only smile in all of this comes from picturing the heads rolling around the AJ server rack. Serious. I am on lots of lists and promo of AJ is at a dead stop. Zero. EDIT: Fair is fair. I just received the requested refund for all monies paid to AJ. Fastest refund via Paypal I have received. I do hope all the flack they've received serves as a fix-it list. Subject closed. | |
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| Pete Young War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: downunder
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It was a shame it did not work for us but hope others do find a benefit moving forward, more importantly my faith and confidence in purchasing other products from the company has been restored. Pete | |
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in short: this could have been decent product for anyone just starting out if they cut the $200 setup fee alltogether, lost the opt-in box, made it possible to create text-links, and got rid of the limitations to widgets and websites (or put it at 100 or something). I believe that it's a serious error in judgement to limit how many offer-links you can build and at the same time charge a monthy fee. the links to the offers are also encoded so you have no way of making customized links or use anchor-links to the CPA landing pages. Basically, these things threw me off. I could not use my own system of tracking, or create my customized offer pages. You could set up a website with their system, and then redirect traffic to that site using various methods, but you still have to deal with the fact that there is a huge opt-in box there - and I found no information on who got these leads. Perhaps they credit them to you, perhaps not. I do not really know, so I will not claim the one or the other. There are many good ideas here, though. I just hope the product will improve, and that the issues pointed out will be addressed. I got a full refund within two days. No hazzles or questions asked. I respect that. |
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As a person who (because of the exchange rate differential) ended up paying almost NZ$1,400 (US$899) I have never been so disappointed in all my years of Internet Marketing as I have been with Affiliate Jump. The pre-launch hype promised soooooooooooooo much...yet it didn't come within a million miles of delivering on it's 'promise'. 1) The "Support Desk" Ticket system doesn't even work! I have gone to the time and effort to create and submit four "Tickets" to the help Desk and not once did I ever receive a confirmation email containing my Ticket Number! 2) I can confirm that the vast majority of all CPA offerings on AJ are embedded in websites that have misdirected links to either Smiley Central or GameHabor.com. 3) The "Learning Centre" contains tutorials on "How to set up / use a Google Adwords campaign to promote your CPA sites. Quite frankly, (and I manage PPC campaigns for Yellow Pages Online) the information contained within those tutorials left a lot to be desired. They fleetingly skirted around the out perimeters of Adwords strategies but in no way gave hard-core advice. It was / is far too generalised and at the level of someone who simply shouldn't even be attempting to risk his or her hard-earned dollars on PPC. Everything else I wanted to say has already been said. Incidentally, in order to obtain a refund (which I want) am I able to do so by simply requesting one via the company's gmail address given on the PayPal receipt email? Cheers, Smeatz |
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I have always heard people saying never join a network or affiliate program which needs us to pay to promote their products. Is there anyone who joined in an affiliate program which requires you to pay to promote their products? Having said that I would like to hear the personal experience of people who joined the Affiliate Jump program. Do you think it is worth the money? How is the support? Personally I think this is a brilliant idea by the creators of Affiliate Jump. They saw that lot of newbies struggle to get inside decent CPA networks. So they created a program which offers a solution to the problem and making banks with it. Yet another brilliant scheme to make money out of ignorant newbies. Though the people who join the program might never make any real money, the experienced marketers should take a note on how the creators are making some serious cash. |
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Can it really be this bad? It sounds like the product wasn't tested at all.
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I can't really comment on everything else you said, but the redirect you are seeing is probably because the offers you are looking at are for US traffic only...If you click on a link and your IP isn't in the states, it redirects you to an offer that is good for your country...which in many cases is something like Smiley Central | |
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| Pete Young War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: downunder
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but as a person setting up a campaign i want to see the destination url, and second once i have done that and wish to run the ad i can then geo target the ad to run in the states so the cp needs a link that does not redirect for admin purposes to make use of it effective. | |
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From what most of you are saying, it seems the best thing about this program is that they give refunds!
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I can assure you that I am well aware of this product and service and my previous comment is the very best I can say about it.
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It's like this with all CPA networks as far as I know. If you want to promote CPA products and live outside of the US - The best thing you can do is get a US based proxy to view offers with | |
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| Pete Young War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: downunder
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| thanks for the heads up tip and will keep it in mind should i venture into aj again, but to answer your Q no not all cpa work like that as i work with sites in the states now that do not have this redirect problem so it is probably more the source network ? anyway i am sure all is good
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I think this product is great - I really liked the layout of the sales page also - very professional - hat tip to the product creators
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The thing that concerns me is the "100% approval" rate, there is a reason CPA networks verify every single application they get. There is a MASSIVE amount of fraud in the CPA industry. My affiliate manager at neverblue told me that of the 200+ applications they receive every day, about 150 of them are automatically rejected due to the person applying being a known fraudster, using a hacked/pirated copy of an incentive script, or because the application came from a country like Nigeria or Malaysia (99% of affiliates in these countries have, and will continue to commit fraud). At the end of the day they only accept 10-20 of the remaining affiliates they call, everybody else got disqualified during the call. The reason they have to be so tough on it is because if only a handful of fraudulent affiliates get into the network, they will raise hell with the merchants/advertisers when they get hit with chargebacks and fake leads. The merchants/advertisers will then pull their offers from the network and before you know it the network is out of business because they only have publishers and no advertisers that would be willing to work with you. |
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A quick Google search of your user id along with the fact that this is your first post tells me that this may not be the most objective post in the forum today. We are just looking for "unbiased" reviews of people who have invested money into Affiliate Jump. That's all. Edit: I was wrong -- this was not David's first post. It was post #10. | |
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Its refreshing to see a new design in this industry as it seems many people are afraid to be creative with their sales pages. Its as if they go by the "If it ain't broke - don't fix it" mentality when it comes to site design. While the names and products change - its always a similar layout. The AJ page kind of reminds me of Hulu - thats just me I don't see anything wrong with liking what I invest in - I actually don't invest in things I don't like or believe in. I'd hope this is not an uncommon ritual | |
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David: That's fair. And I am glad to hear that you feel it was money well spent. As I said, I am just looking for honest opinions from people who have been inside the program. Thanks for your input. |
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Also - doesn't hurt to spend the bucks to associate yourself with REAL players like Gauher Chaudhry (payperclickformula (dot) com and cpahotspot (dot) com). 9 of 10 affiliate mgrs know him by name/reputation. The guy does not reco turds (products, people, networks, etc). He is a smart guy and spends a lot of time helping in ways that are above the price of admission. I am not saying 'buy' anything. I am saying 'real' people are hard to find online - he is one of the real experts. Met him in Toronto. He published an outstanding free report specifically about CPAs that is on one of the sites above - it is WAY better than many that are hyped and guru launched and sold for big bucks. It is not 100% positive. I can not personally spk about acceptance to CPA networks if you live outside North America. Reco to people like Gauher would still be my advise. | |
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Dear warrior, My name is Sam and I just joined hydra about several months ago and when I just got started it only took me about 2 months to earn roughly $1,200, you cansee my post here. $1,273 Komisi Affiliate Dalam Waktu 2 Bulan | Tempat Belajar Bisnis Online Dan Internet Marketing I don't mean to brag, but I know a little bit about CPA and it's not as bad as this AJ people are trying to tell you, in fact they are even much better comparing with AJ because well THEY ARE FREE TO JOIN! When I visited AJ website just now, I'm very shocked to discover that I have to pay to be a member? no wonder they said anyone can be their member, hmm anyone who wants to pay minimum $39.95 per month. Well I DON'T WANNA! I mean common guys, did they promise you that you will make more than $39.95 / month selling their CPA offers or using any of the tools they give you? No such thing as money making guarantee right? So what gives? I've joined 3 CPA PROGRAMS, Hydra, COPEAC and CLICKBOOTH and in my search of these programs I never ever stumbled upon a paid CPA, so this AJ is really a JOKE to me, what is it greed? is having thousands of affiliates promoting their offers is not enough for them? Geeezzzzz Sincerely, Sam |
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Wow lots of feedback. I brought AJ too, being from NZ it cost me alot of money. I was really disappointed, not because of the money I spent but that it just didnt work as youve read, links, lack of feedbank/support. I was really hoping this would be my ticket to CPA. Would have been an excellent product had it been working properly. After being frustrated for about a week I had no option but to ask for a refund, and the next day my paypal was refunded so am grateful for that.
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I wasn't happy with the product at all. I initially thought it was going to be one of the best ideas out there but it was almost to novice for anyone. There is no way for me to track and test conversions and the landing pages weren't optimized really at all. There were many glitches and the videos provided little information. I cant see anyone having success with it.
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I was looking into this program once I decided to try my luck at CPA. All I know is over the years I have fallen time after time for some really good sales pages. Luckily now I always wait awhile and read unbiased reviews for this reason. Glad to be apart of your community everyone. Best wishes in 09 everyone.
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Thanks Swayman....gonna take your advice! |
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THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY! I am simply unable to get into contact with the Affiliate Jump people to ask for a refund! When I try to contact them via ticket system I always get this: "Unable to create a ticket. Please correct errors below and try again!" The problem is that there is no "error" highlighted and even not visible for me in my entries!! Does anyone know where to place the call for refund? Many Thanks! |
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I just don't understand why anyone would pay an upfront fee to join a CPA network when I don't see any added value than joining with the bigger networks? | |
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Hi. I have been with them for about 10 days and have contacted them numerous times with no response. I also know that I have had about 200 hits to one site and yet the stats on their records show 1. If you could give me details how to contact them _ I would really appreciate it. Thanks Cathy (coachcat1969) |
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When someone using AJ makes more than their monthly fee, and they believe they could not have made this amount using a CPA network - let us know. I've looked at this - from different perspectives - but I can't figure out why in the world anyone would bother, unless they've been banned from the CPA networks. Other than a cheap attempt at "scarcity" that some probably fall for, why a sub-affiliate program would limit memberships escapes me. Fake scarcity tactics are certainly a red-flag for me for a number of issues. |
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You would have to be smoking something to pay 200 dollars and then a monthly fee to sign up for a CPA network. Also the payouts on that network are wayyy too low. For the same offers you should be getting paid 35-40 dollars. Also not able to host your pages then have then allowing the cpa network collect consumer emails before been directed to the offer is crazy. Finally most rebill offers like Acai are banned from running on google adwords anyway.
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Thanks for all the reviews. I've just filed a refund and hopefully they will honor the request right away. One thing I don't understand that I didn't see my earning popup after signing up one auction work at home offer. Can the affiliates sign up for the offer themselves? Is it a violation?
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but I hate to be the bearer of double bad news, but if you signed up for one of those $6.95 free trials - you better have read the terms and conditions very closely. most of them will slam your credit card for a $70+ charge on the rebill very quickly and sometimes auto-upsell you to things you didn't even know you ordered. And when you try to cancel, they give you the scripted run around via their call centers in Utah and Florida. meaning that the only thing you can do is actually call your credit card provider and cancel your card immediately. And to top it all off, they info they send you will be very basic level PLR/MRR junk that you could have learned by browsing here on WF for an hour Welcome to CPA! | |
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Thanks, vitual banker. I love warrior forum. There is so much to learn. I should have started my online adventure from here so I didn't have wasted my time and money.
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I'm interested in the CPA market, and I realize that it's for the best affiliate marketers more than it is for newbies and those trying to make their first buck. Fair enough. However, it would make it a whole lot easier for everyone if CPA companies would just flat out say on their company websites: "This is a premier network for top-level affiliate marketers. We only accept experienced marketers who are making a minimum of $2000 a month within the last 6 months". That would have eliminated a lot of applications and a lot of rejections and saved everybody time. I'm currently applying for Clickbooth, and I've been accepted on a conditional basis, and now I have to take a test. A test! You have to have 80% to pass, and if you fail, you can't re-take the test for another 30 days. I read the FAQs, the TOS, the features and all the sales copy on the website, but no one said jack S*@t about a test. What is this insurance? Am I applying for a license or what? The sad thing was the copy on Clickbooth's website actually had links that said, "What is affiliate marketing?" And actually explained it. Is this not the newbiest question that there is? So why imply that newbies are welcome when they're clearly not? As for Affiliate Jump, I thought about it. Still thinking about it. But It's $200 to get started (activation fee) and you're approved immediately (no surprise). Then if you make $1000 within 6 months, they'll refund the $200 as a "bonus" (more like a deposit)...BUT...you still have to pay a monthly fee to be in the program, and they have different fee levels. The lowest is $39.95 a month. You get 4 websites and 16 widgets. It doesn't state much more than that. Do you still have access to all the offers on the inside, or can you only promote 4 products? It's not very clear. So you don't know that until you add your email, of course. That's when you see the price. You can always unsubscribe. So, it doesn't hurt to take a peak. Do your due diligence before signing up. You have to pay a $200 activation fee. You have to also pay a monthly fee. And what about the cost of advertising? How are you going to make a profit? Since the owner is pretty prominent in the IM field, I'm going to assume he has the best affiliate support help to get you going. Because of his big reputation, I can understand the price. It reminds me of the Global Resorts Network MLM programs and their back offices. You had to pay a monthly fee for that, too. It's a CPA program with MLM prices is what it seems to me. But because it is CPA, profitability is high. You got to weigh the pros and cons to see if it's worth it. |
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