DaveN

I agree with stefanjames, to give Mack Michaels a hand, his training is very well done, he does take the time to do things properly,so follow the videos like stefanjames did

OnlineMarketingSys

Everyone here who has replied is doing exactly what is recommended by Mack Michaels in his videos and in some cases the SAME exact campaign. The problem is that the method just doesn't work nor has anyone commented that they have been given any advice on how to make it work after submitting a question in the support forum.

Thus far only two people have actually had positive results, out of at least 10 people that have lost combined $1000's of advertising. And personally speaking no one was over the top on the roi or earnings potential. To risk $50 of capital to make $12, when you have a very good chance of actually losing $33 or making a profit of $12 isn't good odds.

The bottom line is the videos can look like a block buster film, but if they don't work it doesn't matter. If that doesn't make sense, let me leave you with this illustration. There are people that make videos of UFO's that look 100 percent real, however with a couple special effects a fishing line and some cardboard it's entirely fictional.

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YesIamSam

Wow, I'm gone for a few days and this thread explodes!

Ok, once again, I'll get the new vids tomorrow, and if they don't deliver, I'll cancel.

BUT, let me reveal one method I have tried here.

1. I set up a squeeze page that was optimized for the iPhone for my niche.
2. For that $50 I got 89 signups (to an email list).
3. I'll be damned if I can't sell them something and earn back that $50

I'll let you know.

Cynthia A.

I've been reading the posts here with interest & it sounds like this program is based on THEORY. Reading the results (or lack thereof) so far seems like you all are being used as guinea pigs for this program. Expecting you to know how to put all the pieces together when you're only given part of them. Obviously there's not enough detailed info in the first module to experience success. And to have to wait for the remaining NEEDED content for 7 days before you can hopefully stop hemorrhaging money... Ridiculous!

(Not a single person here has said they've broke even - although most say they've lost money.) It doesn't surprise me though. This is the M.O. of the creator based on his previous products.

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OnlineMarketingSys

I am not sure why I am still commenting on this method, but it's frustrating for me to see so many people loosing money. And even worse, I think that some of these people, are spending the $50 or $100 they have saved up to buy their kid a birthday present. Thinking that they can somehow make $4grand or more. So i'll continue...

To answer your comment, it isn't true that no one has broken even, Wizzie and stephanjames have both claimed to make a little money. But the issue is the return on investment is so SMALL, and their is so little room for error that it is incredibly risky (especially given the number of people that have LOST 100's and combined into $1000's of dollars on this method). For example let's look at Wizzie's case, where he had two sales and made a profit of $12, after spending $50 on advertising. Now if he were to get just one less sale, he would go from making money, to actually LOSING money. Pretty risky considering that it took nearly $50 invested to make just $12. And considering he's only actually done this once, it's not to say that if he tries it again he won't lose money.

Scenario: Let's say for example you want to make $100 a day, which can very easily be done using other systems, and should 'easily be done using this one'. Because didn't Mack say "I came back to the dinner table, and the number of sales blew my mind." So let's say we set out to make just $100 a day, a small fraction of "the possibilities of the system". Using wizzie's best case scenario (and hoping that it's repeatable every single time - which is really impossible). It would take us nearly $500 in advertising every day to make just $100. So here are the numbers and capital requirements.

Daily advertising budget =$500
Income earned =$112
Weekly net income (assuming 7 days) =$787
Total weekly advertising cost= $3500

Now this is the absolute BEST case scenario that we know of to date. And if you expect to reproduce the above results, you REALLY should go out and spend $100 on lottery tickets for the week because you have a lucky horseshoe on your foot! So who hear has $3500 or $7000 to invest in their campaigns so they can make $1000?? Keeping in mind your going to have to wait around 3-4 weeks on a paycheck from Clickb#nk..

I know for a fact when I was just getting started in affiliate marketing 3 years ago, I wouldn't have this kind of capital. And talking to most of the people that have purchased systems that I use, even a budget of $200 to $300 a week is tough for many. I've even had people that no joke literally had a $50 adw0rds credit to work with, and that is all. So I know that even with the best case scenario, this system in not preped for launch.

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tjk1058

I want to know how many of the guru's or well known marketers that were pushing this system actually have tried it and what their experiences were.

I know I must have had 30-40 email messages touting this program when it launched with still more coming in still.

Have they put up their own money to try this yet and what have they found? I'm sure some of these marketers are actual warriors here... so please chime in with your responses!

Has anyone contacted the originator of the program? I am going to submit a support ticket just to see if I get a response from them on the figures we are reporting here.

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Cynthia A.

Maybe just a coincidence but I notice that Stephan has the Cell Phone cash affiliate link in his sig file (the landing page is different but when you try to leave you see the "real" page). Some people claim they're making money with a program when it's really from being an affiliate...making you believe they're using the program. Not saying he's doing it.

There are over 800 affiliates pushing this & it just came out. I think you know the answer to that.

And contacting the originator...good luck to you!

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dannynz

lets see if someone from Mach's company or mach himself comes in here and gives some feed back. I mentioned this important thread in a support ticket the other day.

I have put my ads on hold until we see better results from others here and until I have implemented what I mention below later tonight. I was able to test the CB landing page on an iphone yesterday night - there is no way anyone would buy, maybe if the pages were mobile web pages.

The key (which I assume Mach will be teaching soon), is to create mobile website landing pages, simple info, simple form to fill in and then sell to them once on your list and via triggered autoresponders. That is what makes sense in my brain.

... having someone scroll on an iphone, read, click a button, go to a sign-up form, pull out their credit card and click submit ... ??

d

The 13th Warrior

Maybe this plan should use Arbitrage Conspiracy strategies.

Training and claims looks similar.

Yep.....
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WealthWinners

OnlineMarketingSys - I know how you are feeling. I too have been watching still and seeing people jump into this program, after all that has been written.

Makes me wonder too, how many people does it take to lose money before people will NOT buy anyway. Of course, as an IM, there is part of me that says to myself that perhaps I can "find a way" to make this work, where all previous people may not have tried. So that could be why others still purchase even after they read all of this.

But honestly it boggles me. I mean, when I came here to find out about the program, it had just started and there wasn't anything on this thread yet, so I joined and put the product to the test. Wanted to be sure it was worth promoting. It's a personal integrity thing. I don't want to promote something I have not actually purchased and tried myself.

Anyway, my point is that if I had seen this thread BEFORE I had made the purchase, I would not have bothered with this program.

I will tell you that watching this has taught me something very valuable.

Even if you have a crappy product, if you have a great sales page, even if it is misleading, people will still buy, even if they are SHOWN PROOF that the program itself is garbage.

Makes me wonder what that says about us.

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RyanCoisson

I am not too familiar with his new product but it does look pretty good. I will tell that the first product Mack Michaels created was a massive hit and an awesome affiliate product to promote.

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stefanjames

I have seen a few post here saying I'm just promoting CPC to make money. Sure I'm making money as an affiliate of this product but I'm also making quite of bit of money using the techniques.

Sure Clickbank products can work but if the sales page is crappy no one is going to buy. I on the other hand didn't go this route. I decided to try the CPA networks with the CPC and it is working great and made me a few hundred dollars from my test.

Here is my scenario:
1. If you send a person directly to a landing page on their iPhone 9 times out of 10 I don't think they will buy directly from the iPhone. BUT if you create a YouTube video or an Audio to promote on the iPhone as Mack was teaching this will be a lot more effective because you can still direct people to their computers to check out what you have to offer.

2. What I did was used the text link promoting a FREE cpa offer which all the person had to do was submit an email or a zip code. A lot easier to get paid when the person doesn't have to buy anything from the iPhone.

You can make a lot of money with cell phone marketing so if you are a member of the coaching course stick with it because in Week 2 or 3 of the training Mack talks about how to make money with CPA.

I hope this clears up somethings about the coaching.

Cynthia A.

Sharon,

I couldn't have said it better myself. You can show some people absolute PROOF & they'll find a way to say it's a lie, or blame YOU & say you did something wrong...they want to believe so badly. It's not just the great sales page. Many so-called "Guru's" are pushing this into our email boxes (someone here said he's gotten 30-40, & I've gotten a few so far). So if a successful, rich "Guru" says it's the next BIG thing, it MUST be! Right?

Stephan, was your "scenario" in his instruction (you admitted that you didn't take his route)? Finding a "better" way to do this program isn't feasible for most people (they don't have the skillset). Besides, he has specific instructions, No? Aren't you supposed to follow his direction instead of trying to change or tweak something unworkable? And if you're following directions & they don't work...well...

Sharon, at least you have the integrity to try something out before you hit your list with it. Something most of these promoters aren't doing. It makes you realize that some people will do anything for a buck!

Cynthia

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kbs

Just got an e-mail in the inbox stating that I can make $327,000/mnth using this progam. I'll just wait for 1 month and see if anyone is making hundreds of thousands of dollars/month.

OnlineMarketingSys

Week two recap: I honestly don't know where to start with this product. But this whole system revolves around "hey there is a better way to do things" but you need to wait till next week to find out. I'm sorry but I don't agree with that type of underhanded marketing and personally feel that you ultimately are going to turn a lot of people off.

So in week two there is seven more videos, that are aproximatly 40-60 minutes in length all together. Most of the content is repeated examples from previous weeks, and 98% what you would call "filler material". But here is a couple takeaway's that I feel should be mentioned.

If you will recall in week one, he spent time going over which products to promote and chose "weight loss". In fact he even illustrated in his "watch over my shoulder videos" how to create an ad and use "weight loss.

Now in week two, he say's you should really focus on products that appeal to the teen/youth markets. I hear people promoting such products "as weight loss pills. And you really have to sit back and laugh". I actually had to rewind the presentation and listen to it again, because I couldn't believe his words. But indeed he really did say that the examples and illustrations he gave before litterally 'make marketers laugh at the stupidity of those who are promoting it'. I would love to hear everyone elses opinion on this?

Ok, so now most people have been promoting using this system going on two weeks and have been instructed by the seller in his own words how to create campaigns that you will throw money down the drain and make most marketers "sit back and laugh at you".

The only takeaway from this week that was moderatly valueable, was that you can use zip submits to promote. And he gave an example of CPA offers that use zip submits. Other than that, he's still using Clickb&nk as an example to find offers and basically replayed the same video as from week 1.

At this point I have COMPLETLY made up my mind. This gentalmen needs to be featured on "Chris Hands0n's :How to catch a ". I am sure that if he's up against Chris's transcribed notes of his presentations that the truth will come out. Or the proverbial "I don't want to comment, I need to consult my lawyer, ect" will come out.

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npolston

Hello, i just started the cell phone cash yesterday....will see what happens from here.

moneydigs2

One of he highlights of this program is that you get to really understand and implement the strategies you are taught and then you execute. It gives you enough time to really understand what you are doing then you move to the next stage. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

OnlineMarketingSys

Here is the biggest problem I see with your statement.

In week one, he spent time going over which products to promote and chose "weight loss". In fact he even illustrated in his "watch over my shoulder videos" how to create an ad and use "weight loss.

Now in week two, he say's you should really focus on products that appeal to the teen/youth markets. I hear people promoting such products "as weight loss pills. And you really have to sit back and laugh".

With just that bit of knowledge don't you feel that you would benefit from all of the lessons? Personally I wouldn't spend a DIME until I went through each and every module or heard extremly positive results back from people. If you can make $300,000 a month from this system, people should be at a minimum making at least $1,000. Instead we are hearing that people are lucky to be making $10, and most have lost $100's of dollars.

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OnlineMarketingSys

Well I have been involved in internet marketing for over three years, and it's my full time job now. So I can assure you that I definately have a handle on what works, and what doesn't. Ask any marketer out their, that is even reasonably sucessful and they will tell you the same things when it comes to managing sucessful campaigns. If you have a campaign that is not converting or performing well, either you make a change to your campaign or stop it all together and move on. I have personally tried this method and lost $50 so far. And due to all of the people here who have yet to get the method to work, and my personal belief that their are problems with the ad network (I don't trust for a minute that 100,000+ legitimate impressions are being made and 1,000 clicks are occuring in 1-5 hours) I don't feel like risking any more capital.

Personally I don't think I want anything out of reason with this system or that is unreasonable. The only thing I would espect was for the system to work even moderatly well But their is no clear indication that it works, and the adnetwork even say's your going to have problems. Not to mention that THE SUPPORT LINE he touts doesn't pick up, when you call during their normal working hours. And many people have reported they don't return email's or phone calls. So I guess this is what you call BAD STUFF.

PS: Care to answer my original question?

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YesIamSam

Ok, I just sold my first Clickbank product with this model. I'm still at a loss, definitely, but I just got access to the second set of videos, and after that I'm going to decide if I want to cancel or not.

And before scrolling down to reply and ask how I did this, here is how:

1. I won't reveal the niche, but it's targeted towards teens and popular things that they do on the net.

2. This is a clickbank product, so it's not CPA (I had some zip submits convert, still at a loss, though).

3. My big secret:

a) I created a squeeze page that was fully optimized for the iPhone (if you don't know how, then just outsource it. Someone can do it for $30 if you have a regular template to just convert).

b) I had people sign up to get a free report on this niche. This was linked to an autoresponder to make it a legit double-opt in list.

c) I blasted out an email with the link to the clickbank product (well, and some selling words).

d) Out of a list of close to 100 (that I got from this campaign), only 1 has converted so far, and it's not a high paying product.

Conclusion: Screw the clickbank (I just wanted to prove that it can be done). I'm going to do another run, but for another niche, same target audience, but for a better paying and higher converting CPA offer. Will let you know.

SRLee

Wow this thread is growing rapidly!

And that means Warriors are totally helping out people (like me), to make reasonable decisions.

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Cyberdude77

I 'm very grateful that I found this thread, although I already bought the product. Fortunately my ad was still in approval status so after reading all the the thread I paused it. I think I will wait just another week, checking the modules and then asking for a refund.
I don't know if it's also possible with the $50 that I did not spend on advertising
Anyone has an idea?

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dannynz

YesIamSam has the right approach - one of them.

I am hoping to get mine set up tonight and test it to let you know.

you have to be creative, do some research of your own etc to make this work ... I believe it will work now after spending hours of my own research on this. there are some innovative and very good solutions to taking direct payments from the cell.

saying that - it would be great to get a reply from the support staff, my tickets are almost a week old. And some feed back on why Machs teaches in the first module to basically take any CB product and it works without talking much about compatible websites/mobile websites and or landing pages.

d

Sipboy3000

I also bought this product because I have a really good friend who does mobile marketing full time and he has taught me a lot about mobile marketing.

I took the first module and went through it entirely and right away I had a "light bulb" moment.

The first thing I knew even before I bought the product is that nobody's going to purchase a CB product on a cellphone (especially iPhone users). I own an iPhone and I knew I wouldn't.

What I decided to do is do some deep research about the typical iPhone user and find out what are the problems and solutions for the average user.

I picked up the phone and called my good friend and told him that I was going to purchase this course to see if I could dig out some gold and report back to him.

So as far as a product review, I would not recommend you buying this product unless you have a budget and a long term strategy.

In my opinion (and based on the opinion of a mobile marketing expert), I think building a mobile marketing list and monetizing that is the best way to use this information.

If you are looking to make bank as an affiliate promoting CB products, I say don't buy this.

If you are an affiliate looking to promote CPA offers with email and zip submits, I think you should at least test it out.

I bought the product not with the intention to make a killing based on his system, but rather to find some nuggets that I may not have otherwise thought about.

I really think this is an excellent product, despite what others may say because I did not buy it with the intention to make money using his approach. Like I said earlier, I knew it would be difficult to sell CB products or any product to somebody on a cellphone.

You gotta get them off the cellphone to sell them something!

One last tip, if you are into the local or offline biz market, you can make a killing with this idea if you know how to work it.

I promised my friend I would not give away his idea, but he has already started testing this for a local client in the Music Business, and he said their mobile marketing campaign has skyrocketed!

Tommie

salman

hi everybody,

I bought cell phone cash last sunday and I immediately asked to delete my account, so I tried to contact the societey "maverick....." bit since sunday they didnt reply me, I cant contact them, I read on this forum that someone bought it and delete his account so if he can explain me please, I enter in the support desk as we have to do, to post a "ticket" they say tey receive it but I had to log in to have a response, but I cant log myself so if someone can help me, Ill really appreciate, thank you all.
(Ps: Im french so forgive me if there is any mistake)

WealthWinners

Salman, cancel through clickbank, they will resolve it within 2 days at most. Find the email receipt from clickbank and go to their customer support, use the dropdown to show you want to cancel and put a brief comment that you want to cancel and submit it. The one thing that CL is good for is refunds. Don't bother going through the sellers site.

Incidentally, I checked out the address of this program and it is a virtual office.

Cynthia A.! Hey girl! I actually found your site (in your sig) the day after I purchased this program. I watched your video about this guys previous system. Was enlightening. (don't want to get banned, so will leave it at that...LOL)

I remember in the beginning of my IM adventure I didn't always "test" products out. Like everyone else, the idea is to make money. But I found that as I continued to put my name out there and try new things, I got very jaded because there were so many crap products I was selling. So I changed early on.

I will say this though...this is the get rich slow method...LOL. By not selling every new thing that is launched and trying things out first, it takes much longer.

Is that to say I will never promote a program that I have not tried? No, because if I have tried one product from someone and the product was good, and they produce another, I will base my trust on my previous purchase.

With that said, the other is true. Now that I have seen your video, and tried this product, this will be on my "no" list.

Believe me, the last thing I want to do is be critical of anyone's choices, because I have not walked in their shoes. So I don't judge.

But in planning for future things, like maybe creating my own product, if people ever decide to "check me out" a few years down the road, I don't want to be attached to things that could come back and bite me later..LOL.

Thank you for the compliment.

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WealthWinners

I just want to say thanks to everyone for their open and honest views, opinions and those who are still trying to product to continue to give feedback.

As I continue to follow this thread, the pattern revealed has said that the actual product itself is substandard.

You guys are all way ahead of me in the IM world, so I really respect your views and opinions. Both for and against this product.

The bottom line - This product does not deliver based on following the teachings.

I will enjoy knowing which one of you will take the entire course, figure out it's nuggets, toss the garbage, and create a product that will over-deliver and really teach people how to use this method for marketing.

This method has huge potential for someone who has the resources to do that. Just do it honestly and not like this guy did it, and you will make a killing. (not to mention a great reputation for quality products.)

Of course, do it as a WSO first so you can get the bugs worked out.

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jempub

Hello there Fellow Warriors.

Gary here.

I've got an update on yet ANOTHER test I did
with this system...

Here's the results so far...

Product: A CB product for phone apps

Impressions: 59,849

Clicks: 475

CTR: 0.79%

Budget Spent: $42.23

Sales: ONE for $22.50.

Further updates coming...

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ed41143

WealthWinners, you are great for spending so much of your time here and trying to fill everyone in.

My hats off to you and so many others too.

Thanks,
Ed

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OnlineMarketingSys

I am still waiting for another campaign to go live, which I will update everyone on the results after that if I don't get moderatly decent results that's all I am personally going to invest into this system.

PS: Apparently Admob is at least making a lot of money off of this lauch, judging by the support announcement>

If you have submitted an ad in the last 4-5 days, and it is still pending moderation, please know that we are working as quickly as possible through a large backlog.

At the very least if this system doesn't work out, I see admob is hiring. I'm sure that you can reach a deal with Mack. And basically blow everyone in the company out of the water

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Global365

Had a chance to look at the first module and he did state that it is a fast start module..
the fact that there are 6 more modules with an additional 43 videos tells me that there is a lot more to this then the simple fast start aspect....

It truly sucks that they have dismal support and drip feed the videos but it will be interesting to see the rest of the videos. I would suggest NOT implementing this until you have the full picture, or at least that is my plan..

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npolston

So far i have lost $200 dollars using the cell phone cash. thats not a lot but im a college student and i cant afford to keep losing money. Does anyone who has been successful with it have any tips for me? Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

l23bc

I beleive you are commenting on me because i cancelled my account with ease whats you have to do is with clickbank when you purchased the product you would of got a clickbank notification email saying how much you paid for the product and in the email it has a customer service link

NOw if you got to that link take the transaction link id (if you paid by paypal e,g #9283737373 for examlple) it will ask you for that when you click on support then you can put a cancel refund request in the clickbank and choose the product didnt meet expections, write refund requested in box and send you will get your refund in five working days,

hope that helps
andy

bd1292

Ok gang, so here is my take on this whole thing. The only people making money is Admob, Maverick Money Makers, Cell Phone Cash Mavericks or whatever they call themselves. It looks like I have fallen victim to yet another slick sales pitch. The smooth calm voice, the astonishingly huge ClickBank reports, and the overly hyped potential earnings are all just smoke and mirrors. Trust me, I wanted to believe in this. I stayed awake half the night when I first signed up thinking about the potential this had. I dreamed of finally being able to make money in a brand new niche that had yet to be saturated by every Tom, Dick, and Harry. I actually thought beyond a shadow of doubt, that this could actually work.

All I see now are blogs, articles and others promoting the program with no real tangible results by anyone. If anyone is making money, it is off their affiliate link not actually using the program itself. Just a guess, I could be all wrong.

So here is my timeline. I signed up for Cell Phone Cash on Wednesday, September 2, 2009. Spent several hours reviewing the instructional videos and followed each step as outlined. I immediately created several ads and had them approved within 2 days by Admob. I guess they have been so overwhelmed with traffic that it is literally taking a day or so to get your ad approved.

So far I have spent $150.00 (will not spend another dime) with Admob and have had over 100,000 impressions with over 2,000 clicks. As of 9/9/09 at approximately 10:15pm, I HAVE NOT HAD ONESALE!!!!! Please help me if I am doing something wrong here, but it is not as simple as it sounds. I went to ClickBank and specifically chose Money, Health & Beauty and Dating just as Mr. Mack told us to do. I chose ads that did not have video content, ads that appealed to younger crowds, ads that helped people financially, bla bla bla. I even went over to LinkShare and Plimus just to try out some of their products designed specifically for the iPhone. NOTHING HAS WORKED!!!

Now that Week 2 has been released, I see no real content or value whatsoever. The only thing I got out of it is to now sign up with ROI Rocket. Mr. Mack then enlightens everyone that the best way to make money with cell phones is to create a YouTube video of yourself marketing some product that you have personally tried. And oh by the way, don’t take the long hard road of creating a product yourself. Be sure to take the short easy road and promote products offered through ClickBank and ROI Rocket. What a crock of sh__. Now that I think about it, do I want spam or other crap sent to me on my cell phone? I get enough through email as it is. Don’t you think that Apple, AT&T, Verizon, and all the other telco giants have already figured this out?

As you can tell, I am not a happy camper. How much more money am I going to throw away before I find something that can make a few extra bucks. I hate to bash this program, because I really felt it would do well. I prayed that this would finally be my golden ticket, but so far has turned out to be a total flop.

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED AND HOLY, IS THERE A PROGRAM OUT THERE THAT SOMEONE CAN SHOW ME THAT CAN LIVE UP TO IT’S HYPE!!!!! I am not looking to be a millionaire in 1 month. I would be happy with an extra $1,000.00 - $2,000. Please, someone respond and share with me their experiences and “show me the light”.

I am done rambling. Thanks for listening.

BD1292

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hi bd1292

the best program I have found is 30day challenge - thirtydaychallenge dot com - and it is all free.

now a member of 30 day challenge plus which is the paid side but you should do the free training and setting up of the sites etc first. it requires work I am afraid.

i have a group and can offer mentoring. my exp. and work is business dev. specialising in branding, web marketing and advanced seo.

about to do more testing on the cell phone marketing concept, and now doing my own thing, not directly what Mach was teaching cause it doesnt work. from extensive research, I think it will work u just have to be very careful, creative, plan, test and use certain little tricks I have found.

talk soon

dont give up

danny

DonDavis

There is one thing I have to give ole Mack credit for...

He sure knows how to package up the CB best sellers.

steveka

Has anyone tried a service other than admob?

rondo

Ok I haven't bought this product, and I haven't even read the entire salespage, only this thread. But here is my opinion anyway:

Stop trying to sell products to these people and get them signed up to your list instead. Once you have a targeted list then sell to them.


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I just want to thank everyone for their posts re; cell phone cash. I got the email saw the site watched the video, etc. Luckily i googled it before buying & found this page! I had heard of the warrior forum before, read some posts, etc. But finally decided to join after seeing this page. I guess, being a newbie, I'm still easily swayed by the hype & screenshots of big money accounts, etc. But when someone wrote 'would you buy something on your phone while waiting in line, etc' (thank you tonio 79), I remembered that when I first got my iphone a few months ago, I got a few text messages (don't remember what they were for or who they were from). I was so annoyed (SPAM on my new phone!!??) that I deleted them immediately. So, I realized that I can't, in good conscience, do this to other people-- if that's what cell phone cash is suggesting.
So thanks for all the advice & good luck to those of you who do decide to do it.

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jempub

To add insult to injury...

I've sent TWO requests for help on my campaigns
to the so called "24/7 support" and after 8 days
I still have not received ANY reply.

It's hard to believe that this guy is able to keep
this up without some type of backlash.

It was hit on in a previous post and it IS true...

Mack Michaels is in business with ROI Rocket,
Admob, etc...

Stay FAR AWAY from this product!

Talk soon,
Gary

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YesIamSam

Why are people still trying to direct the traffic to a CB landing page, when ALL posts in this forums shows failure with this method???

Like Rondo said, and like I've stated in my posts, create a LIST first...THEN sell them stuff.

I've sold a couple of clickbank products to my list that I built with this now.

Think, don't just act. How often do you surf to a sales page on your phone and take out your credit card? Never.

I surf on the phone when I'm waiting for something or bored, meaning people are at work, on the train, in school, in a car etc... capture their email, that's all you're gonna get. Then email them a targeted offer.

Aero7

Hi everybody. It seems there are two sub-threads here, if you will: 1) those who have seen enough evidence to reasonably suggest that the Cell Phone Cash system doesn't work and 2) those who are swept off their feet by the sales page and are here looking for the keys to all that cash! Well, my two cents falls in the first category, but I hope that those from the second category read this post and think about it for a moment...
Yes, for those of you who have speculated on it, Mack Michaels is definitely monetizing everywhere possible with this course. Besides the multiple monthly payments to get all the modules, each module so far has an affiliate link that adds to his profits (from you, not cell phones!): he gets an affiliate commission for everyone who follows his link to Admob and signs up (most people who bought the course), and he gets 5% of all the earnings you bring in to ROIRocket when you sign up through his link. Each of the oher modules will most likely have affiliate links as well. This is a technique that he has employed for some time (he basically covers this in one of his MMM Quick Money videos).

I hope you are still reading, because here is the important part (as far as what has been discussed up to this point on this thread). I did some digging and came across another marketer who was trying to implement Admob for affiliate and CPA marketing early this year, and posted a blog entry in February about his experiments with Admob and various offers. He was seeing the same results as everyone here (many impressions, decent CTR, but NO sales at all), and he decided to really dig around to find what the problem was. After a few tries, he was able to locate an offer that he could promote using Admob, where he was in contact with someone at the offer site. What did they discover? (drumroll please...) The marketer had Admob stats showing exactly how many people clicked through to the offer, but "there seems to be some disconnect between Admob and the destination mobile website in tracking the user. Is it an http referrer issue? A cookie tracking issue? Hopefully we’ll get some answers from Admob soon, but for now we just know it doesn’t work."

In other words... all of you Cell Phone Cash system testers who have gotten zero results, may have actually gotten sales from your Admob campaigns--but they aren't tracking the sales! Wow! This seriously sucks, huh? You'd think that a self-respecting marketer would test his system before not just sharing it, but SELLING it to trusting marketers!!

I know... this post is way too long. But I thought everyone would want this info. I'll be glad to direct anyone who is interested to the blog post referenced here. Too bad Mack Michaels didn't read this back in February when it was first posted!

P.S.
Good luck to everyone in their online ventures!

jempub

The following quote make no sense...

"In other words... all of you Cell Phone Cash system testers who have gotten zero results, may have actually gotten sales from your Admob campaigns--but they aren't tracking the sales!"

With Clickbank you would see any and all sales come through by simply
checking your CB stats.

Talk soon,
Gary

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Aero7

Of course, we all want to believe that the CB tracking system will always correctly identify all sales. But honestly, anyone who has been in affiliate marketing for awhile knows that errors do happen and sales are "lost." Don't get me wrong--I know that Clickbank is a well-oiled machine and they have made many improvements since their inception. But this error appears to be in the Admob architecture anyway (not CB).

The marketer referred to in my previous post found that the Admob tracking process was essentially completely broken. He had stats for his ad's CTR from Admob, suggesting that literally hundreds of people had clicked his ad but not a single sale resulted. But when he contacted someone at the actual offer site, who had access to the offer's referral stats, they apparently reported that no traffic was recorded as being referred through the advertisers link. In other words, he checked the Admob stats against the offers site's stats (to make sure thay agreed) and found that they didn't. If a full 50% of your click-through traffic make a sale (a very unlikely number, I know, but it's only an example), but none of those sales are tracked, then you get a grand total of... zero commission.

jempub- That's where that supposedly nonsensical statement comes from. For an affiliate, a sale only counts as a sale if it is actually credited to your account. If the tracking process breaks down (regardless of which site is to blame), then you may in fact send traffic that drives sales yet receive no credit. Sounds too horrible to be true? I think it would be interesting to find out how many Warriors have tracking cookie failure stories that have robbed them of commissions.

Lokki08

Hi Stefan

I have been reading all people comments here and you seem to have Cell Phone Cash working for you and you have already earned some money. Can you show some proof about that?

To be honest and I don't want to blame you or anyone but there are always people who claim something but in reality all what they say is BS.

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young-Money

I have read through this thread and most people seems to be losing money.I have not tried the system but i see some potentials here using CPA offers.BE CAREFUL USING CLICKBANK OFFERS WITH THIS! it might not convert well.Use free email and zip submit cpa offers and you will see some good result.I don`t think people will enter their credit card number while browsing their iphone after a long day at work.But if you use free cpa offers where the person only has to put their email or zip code and you get paid,this will work well.This is just my 2 cent.Like i said i have not used the system but i plan using it with cpa offers next week.I will report back and let everyone know if it goes well or not.You can pm me for questions and cpa offers ideas.

l23bc

even with CPa offers it dont work because you need sites that are fully optimized to the ifone or mobile fones on the network i tried 5 CPA offers from neverblue and copec and they was not acceptabe to the network,

also people cannot access the zip in the mobile fones, or any infomation the only way people have seen this to work is by getting people to opt in like a opt in page but most opt in pages cannot be optimised on a mobile phone,

my 2 cents worth again

strawdog

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Hi all!
This is my first post & I apologise in advance for the length of it! But I had to have my say on this one.
I haven’t bought it yet & I have no intention of buying it yet because of the posts I’ve read here. And I’ve read every one.

This product has got everyone buzzing and I think we all should take a step back & take stock of everything here before we lose a lot of money with this.


Product Cost and guarantee
The product DOES NOT cost $25.It costs a bit less than most IM products – about 75 bucks.
$25 GETS A THIRD OF IT (If I understand the pricing structure right)
So with all due respect, you cannot come to any conclusion until you have the full product, agreed?
That said, it isn’t a good way (ethically or otherwise) to launch a product. And I can see this pricing method being repeated time & time again in the future by other gurus – because it works. It annoys the hell out of people, but they’re still buying it. Psychologically some people must and will buy every module – space doesn’t allow me to explain why this is so – but experienced marketers among you will know anyway.
So depending on when (if) you ask for a refund will determine how much YOU have paid for it – someone’s already pointed out you will only get back your original stake (sorry purchase price!).
So unless you cancel in month one, then you’re paying $25/month thereafter until you do cancel.
This is why the method is making Uncle Mack an absolute killing.
In fact he CANNOT LOSE because the majority of cancellations won’t come in until people have an INFORMED opinion on it, which I reckon will be after about $50 worth and YOU will then get $25 back, an excellent ROI for our Mack. And I bet he’s leaving everyone a cliff hanger at the end of every module? Just to get your juices flowing for the next instalment so you keep paying, right?

My advice if your on the fence with this is wait until some people have used the full product and got some stats to back it up.
If you’re already in the programme – don’t spend any more until you’ve got the full picture.


Potential Profits
I do hope someone will put me right on this, as I have no experience of CB.
I’ve checked his screen shots for his account and I note the Net figures. But do the figures also give an indication to his costs to achieve that net figure? Or is it just how the account works with retained operating balances and the like?

What I think should also be borne in mind is that he will have a shed full of outsourcers working for him (paid about a bag of salt a month) to achieve his figures.
A luxury most of us will not be able to afford.
Not that it makes the figures seem unachievable because of that, but it would be a lot more labour intensive for the rest of us to get remotely near them – and I mean within a decimal point or two of them.


The concept
The idea of making money with cell phones is great – and it is the future, I have no doubt about that.
But whether this is the right vehicle to produce the returns, I’m not so sure.
His timing is impeccable because people have already started producing books on it – seems like there’s another couple out every day now (check out Amazon). The fact that he’s the first to bring out a product within the IM niche means he’s got a fantastic First Mover advantage with it and consequently he can’t count his money fast enough.

However, having the first product out is not the same as having the first good product out – different beasties altogether.

My first issue is with the phone type – why target just iPhones? (as that is what he seems to be doing)
Admittedly, you need web access but the majority of phones don’t have this capability.

If you look at the market size (from his sales page) iPhones only accounts for 11% of the market. Admittedly a MASSIVE market but still, what about the other 89%?

Q. Would you use email for marketing if it was only going to reach 11% of all web users…EVER?
No I thought not and I wouldn’t either.

He’s targeting iPhones because he’s treating mobile marketing just like marketing on the web – which it certainly isn’t.
He’s using the same products, the same adverts, marketed in the same way as you’d do on the web – the only difference being they’re optimised for the iPhone!
You can only reach ALL of the market with something common to all phone types, something that ALL PHONES can do which is… send & receive text. You then get them to visit web site or call a number.
I was hoping this was a product which would teach me that because this is a growing market.

I really can’t see this mobile marketing working using on-line generated lists either.
It makes more sense starting from scratch with a purpose built mobile list and the IM niche should be avoided at all costs for this medium.
If you think about it, the IM lists have to be approached with an excellent sales pitch because they’re (we!) are a market savvy bunch. We’ve seen & heard it all before and we’re more sceptical so it’s a harder sell for marketers, agreed?
Think about teenage girls for a minute – common interests (I know, I have a daughter!) are fashion, make-up, music, boys and TEXTING the only debate is the order!
How many CB products are suitable?
If you had a suitable product how good would the sales letter have to be?
Not very, agreed? The challenge then, is how to reach your market, could you reach them via on-line methods or do you start from scratch building a mobile list. And don’t forget we want to market them using mobile.

This is working now & we should all try & get on it.
How many of you watched the Superbowl? How many adverts did you notice that asked you to TEXT in for something?
Air time during a Superbowl is the most expensive on earth – reckon these companies were getting a ROI?
Yeah, I do as well.

Targeting
It is essential that you target your market – everyone knows that. If you can’t target effectively then forget it.
The fact that a future module teaches exactly that (whether it’s an effective method using mobile remains to be seen) had me even more confused – as well as a bit annoyed.
Because he will teach you that in the future, why on earth was he encouraging everybody to get started within 48 hours?
If you’re not targeting you won’t make money – period.
So it begs the question why encourage you to get started now (Fast Start Training offered)
Well…wouldn’t have been so affiliates could start selling/earning from an obviously incomplete product straight out of the blocks? It couldn’t be that because you would know that your customers would lose money until they got the full picture. This is exactly what’s happened.
Or was it simply that the payment structure was thought up before the product was actually finished and only after launch was this shortcoming actually noticed? Perhaps someone should ask Uncle Mack.


Best Posts
The best posts (the most useful in my humble opinion) I have read on the product are as follows;

OnlineMarketingSys (09-07 @ 05.43am)

If you’re following through with this or anything like it – you gotta keep check of the numbers.
This post is the most logical and practical way to go.

And Many Thanks to the author for that.

YesIamSam (09-08 @10.41)

The first thing to notice is that it is TARGETED and I think it’s a great market as well – teenagers.
Shows the method has potential – what might the results have been if it was sent to the whole of the market (not just the 11% iPhone segment).

A great post!


And finally the absolute best post I’ve read on it;
Sipboy 3000 (09-08 @ 03.23 pm)

Excellent information about actually profiting from mobile marketing.
If there is a best way to make money using mobiles then this is the way to go and exactly how I was thinking it could work.
I’m working on something similar for local businesses and I’d love to talk with Tommie if he’d like.

Great post Tommie


I will keep checking in with the forum to see how everyone is doing who has purchased this is, apologies again for the length of this post! Hope most of you got at least something out of it.

Strawdog