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Hi, I will give you a detailed report on my experiences from the last 3 weeks but I just found this message inside the program that I thought is worth sharing: "Please do not use these marketing methods to advertise products relating to making money from home or making money online on services such as AdBrite and AdMob. They no longer accept such campaigns." Guess there is something going on..... Take care Volker |
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Hi Volker Yes, I see that is the case in the members screen there. Something must have happened. I expect when you have 10,000 new people placing adverts on these networks it is going to cause some issues. It would be great if Mach would speak out and say something on - 1. Why so many have not been able to make what he teaches work 2. The situation with Admob, AdBrite etc Danny |
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I agree 100% Niac7! This is really bad. The ONLY people who've made huge amounts of cash are: Mack, Admob, ROI Rocket, etc... Talk soon, Gary |
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He is also too busy to acknowledge any request for a refund. Mel |
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This thread is really getting stale, with people choosing not to bother posting anymore! These videos are not leading us anywhere. After watching each week's video, i feel like a fool because i am told that the techniques discussed in the previous videos do not work. This is insane! I am done. Asked for a refund yesterday. -Abhi |
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Hi again, I need to add a general statement that came to my mind by reading five pages of posts and some facts regarding the product. 1. If one of "your" GURUS have promoted this coaching program to you as the "ultimate money machine" that is "the easiest system ever", or similar, you know what to expect from them when they say they are sending a tested review or something that they have to recommend because "it is that good!" Don't accept it but unsubscribe from their list if you really want to help make this Guru industry better. It's all up to us! 2. I have bought the course 3 weeks ago. My experience so far: 2.1 ACTIVITY - spent $161.26 on text ads, CTR 0.57%, 2,342 clicks and no sales. - I have tested Clickbank products and Free Trial stuff that requires a CC Now I have talked to my affiliate manager at Neverblue to get a special offer for iPhone. I will test this with a simple text ad and a video according to the course. (BTW, she says that tracking sales is a problem because most advertisers track by IP, which an IPhone doesn't have!) Will let you know the results. 2.2 CUSTOMER SUPPORT - I've sent in 5 tickets, none of them got answered - I have called the 24/7 phone support 4 times - The girls could not find my support tickets, none of them - I have explained the questions and they don't know a thing about marketing - During the last call, two days ago, the lady told me that she does not know the answers and therefore will tell her manager to call or e-mail me. - So far no response. EDIT Personal bashing removed BUT I believe that selling on phones is a new, hot way! I will watch the other videos and start testing according to my own ideas. IF I am going to crack the code, this can rock. As a newbie I would cancel and ask for a refund. Hope this helps. Take good care people, Volker |
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This is EXACTLY why I DID NOT recommend this product to my subscribers. And... Now there's the BIG alert at the top of the coaching videos that tell you to NOT send money making offers via admob/adbrite! How can people still be a part of this crap? Talk soon, Gary |
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Look, everybody, BASHING is not allowed. Talk about the product, not the person behind the product. Thanks, Pearson |
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Honest review! I am now in 3 week of the program promoted one click bank product and the rest CPA free offers "in the make money niche" plenty impressions, avg. 1.0% ctr, now ask me how many sells? 0, nada, big goose egg however you want to put it. not one sale. I thinks is a good concept and has some pretty good potential but I haven't had any success with it. Well that's my 2 cents on the matter. Duce |
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I'll just add my 2 cents to the trail of woe. I'm seeing exactly the same results i.e. none! What I am more peeved about is the spectacular repetition of the material from one week to the next...I was about ready to scream when I heard all about admob for the umpteenth time. This is the very worst padding. I've just put in for my Clickbank refund/cancellation....never done this to any other product. Good luck to those of you who are more persistent :-) |
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You might make money promoting CellPhoneCash because Mack Michaels is a master at creating "marketable" programs. But I'm not so sure you'll make any money using it. It can be financial suicide if you make the wrong move with Admob. You could end up thousands of dollars out of pocket not hundreds if you really are not familiar with marketing online. I could be wrong. I just suggest you be careful.
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Contradictions i.e. "duh", moments to date with the Cell Phone Cash Training information ... just a small example. Week 1 training Video 8, Demonstration For Making Money In 48 Hours, point 1 says, "How to obtain your website link that you will be promoting" Plus ... How to create your offer in the proper promotional format Point 2: There are many different formats. Get started with just a website Then ... Week 4 training video 1, Mach says, "Advertising direct to websites is very difficult and we don't recommend it" ... duh? Week 1 we are taught how to set up marketing with websites? ----> Week 1 training video 8, Demonstration For Making Money In 48 Hours. Mach tells us not to promote his product "Maverick Money Makers", on the cell phone via click bank - "It is not the best to promote on cell phone networks cause of the video on the landing page which are not compatible". He suggests you do the following - a. "create your own door way page" b. "this will be pre selling them" c. "then they click to move on to the offer and then you get paid" Question? (He makes it sound so easy) ... after the door way page, they read, click and buy, but buy off what page ... the original Maverick Money Makers in the Iphone? ... duh? He just told us not to use the Maverick Money Makers website pages on an Iphone? ----> Week 1, Video 8, Demonstration for Making Money In 48 Hours Mach goes into great detail explaining all about Clickbank, what to look out for and shows you have to create your hoplink (designed so you are ready to place your ad on Admob). The information on the screen says - Point 2, How to obtain your website link that you will be promoting 1. Get your "Hoplink" on clickbank Then .... Week 4, Video 4, Best Marketing Methods, Mach says, "People make the mistakes .... or just get an affiliate link from a clickbank product and they will promote it direct it on cell phones and they will lose money faster then they imagine. I know we have, this is not the way to market on cell phones". ... duh? did he not just teach us how to make this mistake? ----> Funny quotes from week one, Video 8, Demonstration For Making Money In 48 Hours "Just to get your started making money right away ..." "Hope you have found this whole module useful, cause now you can make as much money as you want simply following these steps you have learned". .... duh? No one we know of has been able to make money i.e. a profit over the past 4 weeks let alone 48 hours? There are many contradictions in Machs training. I really hope it improves and I see some real results from all the work/testing and money. I am still waiting after 4 weeks now for a reply to my support tickets? ... not good Mach! ... just up to video 4 on week 4 Danny |
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Okay guys now I have used that program and also request refund because I wasn't satisfied. So here's my experience. I have setup about 7-8 campaigns in Admob and used $50 for advertising. What I got? 0 sales 50$ flew in air just like that I got about 200 000 impression Admob SUCKS!!! What about Cell Phone Cash, well I don't suggest this to advanced users but beginners might get something from it. It sucks too. No more Macks products. It looked so hype and I have had enough from Mack. |
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| nee Cassman War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Greenville, the beautiful upstate of South Carolina
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I just finished watching week four, and I agree with the above analysis. Lots of repetition. Actual contradiction of earlier things "taught" in previous videos. He rails against people who pay for ads that just link to web pages -- "That's a way to lose a lot of money real fast," he says. Ya think? In week 1 he "showed us" this was the way to start making money in 48hours! Bunk. Nothing new or applicable. Lots of common sense filler like "click here (on link that says iPhone) to create an ad for the iPhone." Like, duh. And why do you think he shows us - again - how to set up an Admob account? Hmmmm. If you haven't bought, don't. If you have, get out before he hits your CC again! FWIW, I called his support desk and got right through. I said I wanted to cancel, and the girl said to call Clickbank. So save yourself the aggravation and don't bother calling the "Rockstar." Just go right to Clickbank yourself and cancel there. |
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I have just contacted Clickbank to refund my Cellphone Cash purchase. Does anyone know if this will cancel the monthly membership to Maverick as well? I think it does but i'm wondering if anyone has had success with the refund? Andy |
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when are you guys gonna learn ...this is a carnival ...full of barkers...selling you dreams ? think about what you want to be ..then do that you set up a twitter account for example use that with a local merchant to run specials then sms the message for a fee |
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Fortunately, I did not buy this product and simply waited and watched. A little hesitant to try an alternative strategy that I had in mind previously that takes advantage of the Impressions. I would post it, but I noticed something. I believe Mack visits this forum and gets ideas for his next modules or updating his Sales page. I noticed that in the beginning there were complaints about things not being mentioned in the sales page and then the next time you view the sales page, the info was there. Also, once people started reporting failures, we noticed modules coming out saying that previous video strategies didn't work. Like someone else said, I believe the buyers were Guinea Pigs. So, once ALL of the modules have come out, I will reveal a strategy that I think will work to an extent. Hopefully, I will get a chance to test it soon. I've been building my Twitter list and my Google Adsense sites, but once I get those complete, I'll try it and post my results. The forum has been very useful. Thanks |
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I really wish I would have checked here before I bought this product. I learned more about the product here than any of those videos he posted. I can actually say I did get something positive out of this otherwise very disappointing venture, I found Warrior Forum! (lol) Happily I joined after seeing how much information and knowledge the members were willing to share and that made this Cell Phone Cash venture somewhat positive. Luckily I found this before I put any money into Admob so I will simply get my money back from Clickbank. Thanks again for the wealth of knowledge and trial attempts put forth by you guys! |
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I bought this too. I was also a little frustrated with having to wait, but I understand his rationale. Here's what I will be doing with this: 1) Promote only CPA offers at first. What is the likelihood of someone "picking up their credit card" in the middle of the street to buy something on their cellphone? In the future? Maybe. But not yet. 2) Once I get some money with CPA, THEN, I will carefully choose products to promote that are the most likely to succeed given the constraints of cellphones. The reason why I say this is that, yes, it is hard to find good products on CB that meet the specific criteria. However, this industry has a huge potential, which means that more people will get into it in the future and, eventually, most CB products will take cellphones into consideration. When will this happen? When people like us see the opportunity and change the market accordingly. Therefore, this product is good for innovators and people who have more experience with IM. I would not recommend this product to a newbie. Oh, and I haven't done anything with it yet, I want to go through the whole course first. Who knows, there may be some crucial information in the middle and/or end of the course. I would not haste to judge it in its entirety before first experiencing it as a whole and testing all its principles. Btw, Mack himself warns about the usage of the product. He says that if you do it wrong you can lose a lot of money. But if you do it right.... |
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Nelson...buddy.. Plz do urself a huge favor and read all 5 pages of posts. U will find that what u r embarking upon is going to simply waste ur time and money. Neither CPA nor CB seem to work and u will find that what u r learning now will be actually called worthless by the very teacher that presented it to you. Sorry 2 burst ur bubble. |
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I bet if you start a campaign with Yahoo Search Marketing (forget Google and Admob) you will yield at least some results. Yahoo's PPC is starting to get some attention and clicks are quite a bit cheaper than Google. Just a good alternative to the ol' Google Monopoly. Andy |
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Sure it doesn't work that great. It's still too new. But the bottom line is that the ability to reach thousands of people for a cheaper price then Google is, well, very appealing. Something worth looking into, NOT betting my life savings on. | |
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Nelson... I agree 100% with niac7... READ ALL of this thread. Talk soon, Gary |
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| Firstly I have not run a campaign using these methods and agree it may not be as targeted as it should. He does make it quite clear that there are limitations on the recommended advertising networks in relation to what type of products you should promote and what types you can promote Quote, "Please do not use these marketing methods to advertise products relating to making money from home or making money online on services such as (removed) and (removed). They no longer accept such campaigns" He also makes it very clear that videos will not work and as a result most CB products are unviable, but does go on to explain the multitude of markets this 'may' work in and I agree that the CPA route may be the way to go. The course does outline a strategy to use and lists in order of preference the most successful methods first. The CB link format is way down the list! The course needs to be given a chance and followed very closely module 5 is around the corner and personally I loving it. Yes, I know I've not tested it for real! |
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As for the strategy optained from the course, I have YET to see any solid outline, recommendations,ect. The guy is all over the place, he say's to do one thing and then a week later tells you "DON'T do what I just told you". The bottom line is if the course worked even marginally well and a "strategy" as you call it were outlined a lot of people would be reporting they broke even or atleast made money. Moving on, sure the traffic is cheaper than say running similar campaigns using adwords, but their is several key differences. When your paying for adwords traffic its largely targetted and converts much better. Second the person is already in front of their computer and you can sell them, instead of worry about payment gateways, email blasts,ect. The bottom line is there is a lot better traffic you can buy for your money. I am working on finishing the final touches on a ebook detailing running sucessful campaigns doing media buy's. And I can tell you for a FACT that not only does the traffic average out to less per click than Admob, but also it's nitche sentric. And the biggest difference between Media buy's and Macks "system" is its duplicatable. I can pull a 12 year old off the street and he could make money. Try doing that with Cell Phone Cash! | |
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I have been testing a video Iphone advert from here - Video > Get Paid For Your Opinion! 123 Cash Survey Admob Video Test ... no opt-ins to date have been getting excellent results for a non paying offer I have been testing, the CTR is very high with a video offer. Video > Discover God's Love Now GodRev Test 02 Impressions - 49,575 Click - 344 CTR - 0.69% Cost - $17.20 Quote:
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Great if you could test it live and put some money into it, then you can report back with the results like most of us here. To date this coaching doesn't work - end of story. I am sticking in there just to see what comes next, but from hours of my own research and my logical mind I know it has potential. Danny | |||
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| Media Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida
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I have been a member for a few weeks and I’m going through the training, it all makes sense, the information is GREAT!! He shows you how you can advertise your service or product for a lot less that Google’s PPC program, you get more bang for the buck and reach a significantly bigger audience! |
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Hi everyone, new here in this forum, but i've been around for a while since January 09 analysing some products and testing then. I've joined Cell Phone Cash and I have to admit that I haven't tried the method but I understand that there is a LOT OF POTENTIAL on this product. I have to agree with some of the members when they say that this system is not teaching anything REALLY NEW but it's just applying those same techniques in mobile advertising USING Admob and not Google Mobile. The course is separated in 7 weeks teaching. I'm in the Week 4 and so far I'm still waiting for Week 7. Just to finish, it's important to remember that there are a HUGE QUANTITY of products that we can promote with out been MAKING MONEY ONLINE. And in this mobile industry it's important to know for how we are really advertising. I'll give you all my TOTAL review when I finish my week 7 and try all the system. P.S. This is a GREAT forum indeed, with VERY GOOD posts. Thanks, Leonardo |
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How can you get "more bang for your buck" when you've spent over $700.00 in detailed tests and still see NO results! Niac7... You haven't bought the course so be easy. I know you want to boost your over all "posts count" but you have NO knowledge of the course. Talk soon, Gary |
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Again... Leonardo... READ and then RE-READ this entire thread!
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Well since I felt a bit "attacked", i'm NOT PROMOTING ANYTHING period. It almost looks like been part of a membership site is BAD. If not a single person try one product and give his testimony, how are others suppose to know if it worse it. This is MY 2 POST...YES...NEWBIE...we all start with something. ...and if this is a section to post some product reviews...I can give my opinion for you guys of what I liked or not. No heart feeling! ![]() Thanks, Leonardo |
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And trust me that like many others on this forum, we have given it a chance including the seller (Mack) himself. But the facts and results speak for themselves, when you go from week to week "telling people to buy XYZ product" and then the next week "You should NEVER buy XYZ product" it really makes you wonder. I am about as dumbfounded by this system as the next guy and I am an experience Internet Marketer. Please if you have any rational behind why you would give people blatent contradictory information from week to week, please fill me in. Examples: A) In week one we were told to market "health, weighloss, fitness products" from Clickbank if we didn't have a product of our own. 1) He then in week two tells us "diet pills are the worst things you can market through cellphones. B) In weeks 1-4 all we hear is Clickbank this Clickbank that. How great Clickbank is and how much money you can make offering your product on clickbank to cellphone users. 1) Then we learn "you will loose boatloads of money if you promote clickbank products to cellphone users". You cannot make up this stuff, it's just TOO funny. Not to mention for the love of GOD, he's not promoting adwords (so what is he spending 10 videos telling you on how to do Adwords analytics and research?). Maybe he had some old content from his Maverick Money system left over that he threw in, but it's just unreal. | |
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Are we also to assume you have not actually tried creating an ad with Admob, used a CB, ROI Rocket product or like me created multiple landing pages etc and then measured the results? Because hey if you have and it is working lets hear all about it please? Being able to hit a bigger audience means little if it is not well targeted and responsive. PPC at least people are on their computers. To date from the very little success I have had e.g. 6 email opt-ins the costs to achieve them is why more expensive then just using PPC? But again, hey if you can get better results then go for and show us the links and what you did to make a boat load of cash like Mach goes on and on about - lets see it! I want this to work, I have been working hard running tests and spending money on ads to make sure it works before I put in more cash in for advertising - to date: no profit, no large amounts of opt-ins etc. Conclusion so far: The market is not targeted well enough, and not very responsive ... PPC seems to be a better option at this stage. Mach says he is making lots of money with this, so lets actually see the results and full disclosure of the product he is selling, the landing page etc ... nothing. He is ever lying and created a very deceptive useless coaching product (it is not really coaching) or we are doing it all wrong and or there is some other magic solution to success on the last week of training? Regards Danny P.S. Recently this message appeared at the top of the page in Machs Cell Phone Cash training site, "Please do not use these marketing methods to advertise products relating to making money from home or making money online on services .... They no longer accept such campaigns". ... ok but my "make money" from paid surveys Iphone video with opt-in, advert, was just approved? What does that say ... I assume they still allow it? and or just try? | |
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| Hi Dannynz, First just to clarify, I have read this post from the beginning, and even though I’m new to the Warrior Forum, I am not new to Internet marketing . I still think this method of using admob can work but in a different way. You may disagree with me but consider this, I’ll use his technique to ad to my list that will be targeted to what iphone users really want. Has anyone done any homework on the demographic on iphone users? I have, and I found some interesting stats, 72% of iphone users are men with a average age between 25 to 31 and a household income of $75,600 a year. How do I know? well like anyone else I Google it under iphone demographics. With this information I have to adjust my product or service to my target audience. This is marketing 101 if it worked 100 years ago I’m sure it will work now. Sure making money is always the main topic everyone will be going for, but iphone users are generally men interested in games, sports etc. I will be working to develop iphone apps in the near future so getting a list with iphone users who are interested in buying what I have to sell sounds good to me. I’ll put together an ebook with this info and post to the WF (Warrior Forum) in the near future so stay tuned. It’s true I was not a happy camper when I found out I had to wait for modules to show up, like I was in third grade and I agree with you, that he makes it sound so easy that anyone with half a brain can turn on the money machine and get as much as they want, which as we all know is not true. But I’m looking to exploit this in a different way. Who knows maybe there is a boat load of cash, in the long term just not the boat that Mach is on. I have a question for you, since you are using the product, has anyone created a video or an audio advert, to pre sell your program? In the module I received Mach in his (slow and sleepy voice) says that this is the last thing you should do is to promote directly to your website. To quote Mach “You should use that method as a last resort” I’m just looking for different options here, I want this program to work, so if it doesn’t work one way, I need to see if I can get my ROI in a different way. In my experience in internet marketing, I have painfully discovered that researching your target audience is the key to success, this can not be ignored. With out proper research, you might as well go back to your day job, if you have one. ![]() Tonyuk55 |
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... ok if you say you have read this thread then why are you asking this question, it has been covered and tested by a few here, including me. We were told from Machs own staff that from 500 clicks you will know if it will work. My result - 500 clicks, 6 opt-ins. A no go. Quote:
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Look I'm just trying to help here, were all trying to make money right? So I will continue to do testing, and I will let everyone know the results. That's the bottom line.
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Baby
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Am telling you, the advice we get from the warrior forum, we do not need any more products to make money Instead of buying product after product, we should give our money to freelance workers & we would definitely profit, there are articles to be written, videos to be made, facebook groups, myspace. Come on guys wake up | |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009
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"Nelson... I agree 100% with niac7..." I hadn't posted anything else so I'm not sure what you meant by boosting my "post count". Maybe you mistakenly put the wrong name. Anyway, I am thankful to the people in the forum that I did NOT buy the program. My last advice to someone was to Read The Entire Forum, in the hope of helping them save some cash. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. Too many people have tried the program and report negative results. They also report that the course goes back and dismisses previous teachings in future lessons. So, to be sure, I am not promoting this course. I know I am new to posting here, but I joined because of how helpful this forum was. I've been active in other ways here, like purchasing quite a few WSOs and reading posts on other opportunities. Let's keep the comments about the program and not about assumptions about members and their motives. I thought it'd be obvious that I have nothing to gain here since I promote nothing in my tag line or anything. So maybe it is you all that should be easy and let's stay on topic. | |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009
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I've also tried to make money from this, also using direct linking to cb offers... But after reading this thread I cancelled today... I've lost a couple of hundreds, and got no sales.. |
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver
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I canceled the product after reading this entire thread and before I gave any money to Admob. Honestly, I think the review for the product was somebody that was either an affiliate for the product or Mack himself. | |
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009
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Hi everyone. I am actually a person who purchased it, tested and I am honest with everyone here not like lot's of marketers for whom what counts is just a sell. So here it is. About a week ago I have purchased Cell Phone Cash Coaching Course and after spending about $100 on Admob and running 3 different campaigns I can say that I didn't get even one single sell. It was very disappointing. The campaigns were coming from all different marketing networks. It was one for a zip submit, one free trial offer with just an e-mail submit and one to actually purchase the product. In conclusion this course looks nice and promising but in the end it fails to deliver promised results. -marvius |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: South Africa
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wow I read all 6 pages and it is interest the way you all market it. I learn and I learn for free. Today I learn that you need to study your buyer. Do serious research. Well all the best guys. With the amount of money you guys spend you can create your own product. Be Bless |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009
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Hi All Just a note: I had to call the Cell Phone Cash Support number because I was unable to log in to the two support areas to support a ticket and this is what I have been told - 1. There is no support ticket area for cell phone cash only for MMM club members 2. You can submit a ticket without logging in (I did do this more then once weeks ago and never heard back). It would be nice to have a Support Ticket area for customers of Cell Phone Cash. Saying that being about to call a support person live is nice, but the girl I talked to had little experience with the program. She has spoken to others who have been successful with the program ... love to hear from them! She did submit a ticket for me and in it I am asking for coaching help, because after 4 weeks of Machs coaching and my testing I have not seen any profitable results to warrant going forward and investing in more admob ads/budget. Update: There is now a large disclaimer in the members area under the training mentioning a number of things we have discussed ... see below: "we do not recommend sending cell phone visitors directly to websites, squeeze pages, and pitch pages" (which is what you get taught to do ... duh?). "You have to understand that the majority of people on cell phones who click on your advertisements are not going to read through an entire website and then pull out a credit card to purchase a product". (we know this but again this is taught in week 1, sending people direct to CB pages). "you send visitors to a video, audio, or have them call you where the product you are promoting is then pitched to them over the phone". (I have been testing sending a video and to date the opt-in has been nil, yet to test a call out) New: You might have had the email today, but there is now a nice area to send out "recommend to friends", emails with your Cell phone cash clickbank id link ... all lovely but I certainly will not be doing this ... how about you? Would you recommend this product to others? Most of you have asked for a refund ![]() I will keep you updated on my support ticket and if I get any coaching to make this work. Danny |
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