niac7

How long does it take for AdMob to approve an ad.

I sent one days ago, but no response.

Was going to try an alternate strategy, but the ad just says "Running/Pending Approval".

Anyone have any experience with how long these guys take to review an ad.

dannynz

From my experience - there are no rules as such. Recently I had two approved in 30mins, before that 3 days. The most recent was 2 days I think and it was a "video Ad for iphone" for make money from paid surveys when they are not meant to be approving these?

danny

netwiseprofits

Hi guys, it's been a while since I last posted.

I have the Cell Phone Cash program. I am at week 5 and here is what is outlined for this week:

Video 2 - Proven Concepts
Video 3 - Organizing Your Offers
Video 4 - Loading Your Offers
Video 5 - Monitoring Your Offers
Video 6 - Demonstration For Proven Concepts
Video 7 - Demonstration For Organizing Your Offers
Video 8 - Demonstration For Monitoring Your Offers

My first attempt to say the least sucked, made zero sales, I started with just $50.

However I have since used it with regards to CPA offers to people on iphones. As people are used to touch screens on iphones I found CPA offers work well.

I started another test with only $50, I got over 63,000 impressions and click thru rate of 1.56% which totaled 1000 clicks and I got 131 people to take advantage of the CPA I was offering.

I got paid $1.50 for each lead I made $196.50 minus the $50 I put up I made a profits of $146.50. All of which took place in the span of 45 minutes. I have since done more and with the same results just on a bigger scale.

Mack made his money by sending people to You Tube to watch a video's of offers and such.

Bottom line like any other advertising method there is a learning curve even if you have instructions.

The only thing I am not thrilled with is the wait time between modules.

Later
Leo

dannynz

Leo, great news! Can you give us more detail please. e.g. What were you selling? What was the advert - what did it say?

... if nothing please tell us what did you deliver to them once they touched on the advert? Was it a URL website, what was on the page? Can you give us the URL or by Private Message? This is the most important information because I get all the rest, it is getting this part right.

I have a video test running now but Admob are not giving me the impressions I need to see if it is working. It is an page to enter an email to view a video. Just watching the video I doubt will get much of a results ) I tested that.

All good, but where are the examples, second how do you make an offer after a you tube video has been shown on the iphone? you can not click and go to a page etc?

If you can please give us the feed back please.

Danny

netwiseprofits

If you contact admob after a day or so they can speed up your approval. I have done that and my ad got approved shortly after contacting them.

Leo

netwiseprofits

Hey Danny I am going to IM you

Kevingators

I am also new to the WF and have purchased Cell phone cash.

As of yet, I am in week 3 and haven't implemented anything yet thank god. According to most everyone this is dud of a strategy.

I think cell phones may still be in their infancy when it comes to marketing with them. Maybe in the future but not now.

niac7

Hopefully you can share more about your successful campaign with the thread.

I have been waiting 5 days for an AdMob approval and their site says they are backlogged.

Curious to know what kind of CPA folks finally jumped on. Many here have tried CPA but no conversion and you were able to pull off a HUGE conversion in 45 mins.

Please share as we may be missing the boat. I'm about to launch a campaign, but don't want to waste my ad money, especially if there is a CPA offer that got over 13% conversion

Thanks

dannynz

Hi niac7

I dont think netwiseprofits would mind me saying, it was the CPA Business in a box from ROI Rocket. You have to be approved to get access to it. The ad was Touch make money secrets and the next page you can see if click on the link in ROI Rocket there. I think it worked cause the copy was good and simple opt-in - who knows?

Hope that helps

Danny

niac7

Thanks Danny,

Will see if I can get approved for it. I think I signed up for ROI Rocket a while ago.

Maybe I'll give it a test spin as well and see what type of results I get.

One Dumb Aussie

I can't believe this!

Did any of you that claim to have done the course actually watch the videos?

Weight loss was explained as a bad product and why. if you invested in it you missed that video.

I have completed 5 weeks of the training and start week 6 tommorrow. If you actuallyfollow the advice you will make money.

If you treat this like adwords you will lose money!

I'll bet your still sending your Mobile cell phone leads to Landing pages, If so re-watch week 4 and make the change.

For those that think the course is about using PPC Techniques on Mobiles it is NOT!
If your money is being Sucked up in Minutes you are Bidding TOO HIGH!

My $50 Campaighns run for days i just slot in when you big bidders are broke!

If your considering the course don't think you will be able to watch 1 week and make a million dollars.
By week 4 though you should at least avoid the stupid mistakes most people seem to be making.

my Advice if you lost Money RE-Watch the videos from week 1 you've got a week to wait for the next one.

One Dumb Aussie

P.S You get the modules weekly, a pain in the arse but in my case I watched the videos 2-4 times each, not something i normally do.

lemon200

cell phone cash maybe promising,but I doubt the effectiveness of it will buzzing the world of IM soon,cell phone cash need to wait there moment until people can use it to purchased,just like what happen with internet in which required "credit card popularity first before it make fortune to many marketer

isee

I bought the course when it first came out. The cellphone marketing angle seems intriguing and on paper you can see how it could work.
Initially I was pleased at the detail and ease of description on how to go about promoting primarily through Admob.

Unfortunately like other posters who tried it here, the 'quick moneymaking start' info by promoting clickbank products is an instant cash vaporiser. I blew $150 on a few campaigns in a day. Later in the course we're advised not to use Clickbank offers - very contradictory.

There is a heck of alot of repetition too. I'm finding that I'm fast forwarding a number of the videos.

I think it could work for CPA offers and by using You Tube. A real shame as it isn't in my view delivering on its early promise.

ichommylegend

that great i will soon add the product to my site

l23bc

yes me? i just threatened clickbank with chargebacks as stated in the policy set by clickbank

look people only thing that works for mobile phones to make money are applications for iphone and facebook applications, think about it...if you was going to purchase something using your phone its got to be some value, some game that your friends are playing or application thats going to be usefull not a clickbank ebook or make money online member ship..



if this was going to work then use cpa networks such as neverblue an applications on facebook such as mafia wars or myfarm or poker, alot of cpa networks have this setup already its just a question of finding the right platform (not admobile! places like if you have the cash like the iphone stores and deep pockets! if not there is no freebie site for the iphone that will convert unless the offer is unique)


no bash intended but research is king on online projects, my 2 cents again

dannynz

Hi Dumb Aussie (great name, as I am a smart Kiwi )

Yes a lot of us here have watched the videos and are very smart and run tests starting in week 1 based on what we were taught - of course this changed once we were told this would never work weeks later - and from the results coming back.

I don't agree here, - which video, can you quote him saying this directly so we can double check? He does say to do your own research which is what a lot of us are doing - a lot of it and doing more stuff then he teaches with other companies and third party applications. Mach goes all over the place so it is hard to know what is right and what is wrong.

I am now still waiting for a reply from support after I called and the lady placed a support ticket in for me - still no reply on the ticket - this is really useless. My ticket is about some extra coaching/advise because myself and others here can not get to this make money - and we are not stupid. - Still no reply, no help and the coaching videos are very basic with NO REAL examples.

Ok then show us your results Mr Aussie - like all of us here - my results are zero profit. All my ads are on pause while we built a fully optimized Iphone enabled/web coded page to send people to - logic tells me this is the best option. I have tested everything Mach talks about apart from click to call then a live person.

... so where are your results, what are your adverts saying, then after the click what do they see? What is the offer? What are the numbers?


Quote this please, what does he say in week 4 specifically? I dont recall him saying not to send people to landing pages, it is one of the lesser options right?

I don't think people are dumb enough to think it is that easy, BUT Dumb Aussie, Mach sure makes it sound like it is - if you read/watch the sales page and listen to week one - I have quoted him word or word here a few times. e.g. you will be making a lot of money etc.

Again we a wait your results/stats. Because if you are making money then you are one in a .... 100 odd people here. Lets see them please.

Danny

dannynz

One Dumb Aussie mate - I just read your blog and product review of Cell Phone Cash. Nowhere do you give any details of how you are making money - specific information.

Also this -

"I found out why I lost my $50 and I wasn’t surprised. idiot stupid error, I wish that video was In week 1. It is do with Users of cell phones".

... but you never explain WHAT you did that was 'dumb', you did say in the next weeks review that it would have been better to have it mentioned in week 1.

Honestly I did not find your reviews that helpful, very little information - no REAL examples good or bad - much like Machs Cell Phone Cash to date - NO REAL examples - e.g. on screen, links to his pages, videos etc that he is using to make money with ads on Admob - ZERO!

Cheers
One Smart Kiwi

Danny

iw

right, regardless of the positives and negatives about cell phone cash, the course has been selling pretty well. If you would like to take a share as an affiliate, I have some wordpress ready templates for cell phone cash which was created for my list. They are FREE by the way. You can download them at http:Pepper Web Media

netprofitz

I'm another Kiwi, and have also just read your Blog 'Aussie'. You mentioned that you made $1000 in 3 days but as Danny mentioned there's not much in the way of specifics apart from the references to week 4.

I assume that you are referring to the fourth video of that week, Best Marketing Methods. If you are not using a landing page then that leaves about 3 options unless you include the video landing page. Were you referring to his 1st choice then? and were you just targetting Australian users?

dannynz

Dear Pepper Media (a name would be nice, even on your blog) this would not be the thread to recommend that we promote and make money off selling Cell phone Cash as a coaching course (have you read all this thread?)

- this is an insult to our intelligence and integrity.

There is no way (many of us here I am sure) would be seen promoting Cell Phone Cash UNTIL we are able to make it work personally and see others also making it work.

I am sorry to say I did send out an introduction to my list that I was testing it etc as I expected it would be easier to make it work going by the way Mach made it look. NOW I would NOT recommend Cell Phone Cash.

It is a sad fact that most of the money being made from this product are the affiliates and Mach himself. If you search online you will find very few honest reviews where the reviewer has actually tested and made it work. I only found one. Most are people just selling the product. It is just the way make money online works - sad, we need more honesty and integrity.

Danny

Texson5

Hi all.

I too bought the cell phone cash system and already got my money back.

When I joined I took and read the "sales" page 2 or 3 times just to make sure I knew what I was buying into.

After I signed up I logged into the members area and had 8 video's to
watch. I was excited as this seemed to be very easy and straight forward.

I went to where Micheal tells you to sign up ( it is free to sign up) to start
posting your adds and then paid for my advertising. It is a minimum of
$50.00 for advertising that you must pay for. My fiist add was shown 71,000 + times, and the click through rate was 1.5% but not one single purchase.

The item I was promoting was a website that you joined for $37.00 that
let you download unlimited ring tones and games for your iPhone and other
phones that could download these items.

I decided to put that ad on pause and then added a new ad promoting something else and put in the $50.00 and a few minutes later was told that the ad was rejected.

When I signed back in I did not see the $50.00 I added for the new ad and
it was not listed on the other ad that was on pause. When I checked my
bank account that second $50.00 had indeed been withdrawn, never
returned.

I called the ad company twice and even used their online email support and
never heard from them and never received my $50.00 back.

For those of you who say it is working for you great! But my experience with this program left a bad taste in my mouth.

Jess

cobra tatham

I too got my money back from this. Sent request to Clickbank and received refund within 2 days. I think smart phone marketing is the way to go but you will need deep pockets to learn the ropes. I feel that Cell Phone cash just didn't do it for me and it leaves out important info.

Andy

l23bc

rat race winner
Anyone who is about to test Cell Phone Cash needs to hold off until someone finds a way to monetise Admob, otherwise you will lose money. There are obviously some very experience affiliate marketeers who have lost; more importantly the people who say they have made money have still not provided evidence.

totally agree with the making money part there has been people on wf who like me lost 50 buck 100 bucks 200 bucks and no sales, the only way you will make sales is promotion of maverick money makers and cell phone cash the original ways as a affilate for clickbank,

isee.
I think it could work for CPA offers and by using You Tube. A real shame as it isn't in my view delivering on its early promise.

Nope wont work for cpa

before i got a refund i tried nefftiti a application for facebook and dating sites to even eharmony which is a killer seller on neverblue and ringtones glaore!!,

had my network cpa manager telling me to pull the plug and go back to normal white-greyhat methods of protmoting cpa marketing campaings as they were concerned in the sharp rise in some of the accounts of people trying to affilate by mobile phones, also people in wf if you read the posts at the start like mine you can see people have lost money so far there have been 7 people to count on the whole forum posting that claim to have made a sale which i find unbeliveable because this place has professionals or expert people who know their stuff and when people ask for proof they dont comment,


Now i think all you people should take a look at this blog and concider of your going to get involved in admob you better know the risk, this is a new blog that tells how even the devolopers on admob are having trouble with their own applications on making money or getting noticed thus also taking thieir services to iphone stores and other places such as building their own app stores


Mobile Phones - Going To Extremes To Build App Store Buzz

no bash intended but if devolopers are having a hard time then what chance has a newbie got to dominate the iphone or mobile with affilate offers, come on!! no sales so many clicks even on ppc like google after 71,000 clicks you know their has been some sales somewere even if google charges you 2 bucks for your keywords or more in theory,

Im really fed up of seeing people who 10 posts between then saying there making money from this then not showing the goods to back it up,i had lost money trying and called it a day people like seoserivces and many other people on warrior also had no luck, and the more you wait for the content of the videos the more you pay out to see them and hear in general about maverick money makers,

No wonder the ftc have been flagging internet markets lately, so many saying they make money on review pages the customers feel in the cold,


andy

One Dumb Aussie

I have done 5 weeks of this course, in my review I state that you need to wait at least 2 weeks before investing any money preferably 4.

I too rushed in and promoted the wrong things. Once I reviewed the videos it turns out i was the idiot.

I agree the course delivery SUCKS!!! As a WHOLE it is very good, But you can and will be misled somewhat if you act before week 4. This course should be delivered in 1 Big Chunk or at least 1 or 2 video's a Day.

My Observations and these:
1. Getting people to BUY is useless, getting people to ACT is the idea.
2. Everyone who suggests using the sytem to build a lead base is spot on. Alternatively make sure the program you are promoting has a strong followup system.
3. If your sending people to web landing or squeeze pages you missed a video or Two
4. If you sign up for a 7 week uni course on Internet marketing, do you consider yourself qualified after 1 week or even 3 weeks? Once you COMPLETE the course you get your degree or whatever. You don't get your degree in week 1 and then they hope you show up for the other 6 weeks.
5. I cheated with making the pages iphone compatible by using wordpress and an iphone theme. Keep that one to yourself though works a treat!

I am going to finish the FULL course as I believe the best will be last as usual. Frustrating YES! I have access to week 6 Now and will look at that tonite.

Hang in there, I sincerly believe in this medium and this course, Just NOT the way it is delivered to you.

One Dumb Aussie

netprofitz

If that iPhone compatible page was not a landing page or squeeze page then what did you have on it? it sounds like you were trying to build a lead base or mailing list so were you just capturing email addresses?

Can you give us a general idea of what you were promoting that worked?

Cellvation

Frustrated here also. Went through week 4 of the videos, each week either contradicted the previous weeks instructions or regurgitated earlier lessons. I called in to speak to the "coaches', and after 30 seconds it was clear there are just telemarketing grunts reading off a script - no help at all. After attempting to promote 3 products with 3 different ads and losing $100, I requested a refund yesterday, which Clickbank promptly processed.

kurtgeer

This post has been a very interesting read

For any of you that have websites and are thinking of trying
to get your clickbank offers in the mix.

Here is a link to Smashing Magizne
Showcase of Designs Optimized for iPhone Smashing Magazine

This sounds like it could be an amazing ride once we can get
targeted traffic sent to cell phones.

dannynz

HI Again Dumb Aussie, shame you never answered any of my questions/replies to you main post here.

Anyway again I ask can you give us the details of what has worked. What did you phone ad say, what product were you selling, what were the numbers? What is the URL of the Iphone compatible Wordpress webpage please?

We all look forward to this detailed information and the URL to info to help us all. Also as netprofitz points out regarding your last post remark -

"If that iPhone compatible page was not a landing page or squeeze page then what did you have on it? it sounds like you were trying to build a lead base or mailing list so were you just capturing email addresses?"

This is one part I don't get cause you are saying don't use a landing page? How are you able to achieve results with an iphone compatible page without it being a landing page - magic? Mach doesn't not teach NOT to use a landing page as such, is says it is not the best of options.

Danny

dannynz

HI ishansoni

Great post, thanks for all the details, it is great when someone offers this to help all of us.

I also have had no luck with Mach's so called support. I rang them and the lady submitted a support ticket for me while on the phone, still no reply after I was told I would hear from someone in 24 hours. I am amazed how bad not only this coaching course is but also the support. I hope Mack reads this form/thread one day to understand our frustrations and does something about it.

I am just starting to reviewed week 6 of the course and it doesn't look that promising. Very little information that deals direct with issues we are still facing here - i.e. very little sales results.

Rat race winner, thanks for your post it was informative. Hopefully we will get more details from One Dumb Aussie so we can see what he has been doing?

... yes 123bc most of the people who post here saying they have made money never return with the details or give very little information.

Some recent results after testing a video iphone ad for paid surveys -

1. 350 clicks now, I watch it so not to blow the budget, I only want to see 500 clicks as a test
2. tested changing the advert for response, currently "Touch: Make Money Secrets Video"
3. resulting 3 opt-ins. this triggers the CPA email with links etc and then the video on you tube

note: it was showing the video instantly with an opt-in for email for more information but had issues with the video showing on the iphone and no interest so switched back to the opt-in page as the first step.

4. no sales to date (hard to achieve of 3 opt-ins)
5. URL of page - 123 Cash Survey | Make Money Now Video

note: I changed the sales page to have more sales copy. I viewed it on my friends iphone and had to zoom in but it read and worked ok and was able to fill in the form myself. It is not the best looking page but is ok for testing. After entering the email, the video played beautifully via youtube which is fully compatible for the iphone.

The next test is going to be a fully optimized iphone webpage using a special kit to make it with the help from Dion here on the forum, good sales copy, strong call to action, opt-in, maybe video direct on the page etc. We might use the same CPA product/offer which Netwiseprofits/Leo used and had success with - if I can get approved on ROI rocket - still waiting.

Good luck my friends

Danny

momoneymoproblems

**Erm, no you dont!!

you get one and all the others say "This Training Will Be Unlocked On Week 2/3/4/5/6/7"

Not sure if you have to pay for the extra ones or what???

At first I was VERY skeptical, but after searching online my heart sank bigtime! (

I do so hope I haven't been suckered into yet another online scamming system

It remains to be seen whether magic will unlock the other videos or my credit card?? if so is it automatic payment??

Damn this is looking grim to say the least! (

any advice?

Cheers

Mo-money mo probelms huh?

netprofitz

It would be good if Mach could give us a case study, but I doubt that's going to happen.

One Dumb Aussie

Just dropped in to catch up, I am going fishing for the wekend I will post some details on sunday afternoon when I get back.

See you then have a good weekend

l23bc

Thanks for the post danny, yes that sounds intresting i think ill drop dion a message about the kit but my whole concern is with admobile at present, i have been currently been on a iphone devolopers forum site making posts to attract some views and general discussions. Roi Rocket is a very hard network to get into but i hope you do get in ok i have been rejected 3 times and even if state that i am joined at neverblue and copec and a few other cpa networks such as clickbooth, i use ppc and many other formats of traffic and show my results from other networks im still left in the cold by them

But one web devoloper and the blog i stated in my last message summed up admobile for me because admobile are known even for iphone application softwere devolopers to reject their ads and requests,yet ask for more of the advertisment cost so they have to stay to use the credit up they place with them, so no profit is hardly made from the work,

there are a few to date who are just setting up softwere applications platfoams store via iphones and going it alone so my other concern is that this product is a double edge sword to newbies and no bashing intended to mach or the product but in his own words he says "get started to make money with in 24 hours" yet you have to wait just like you have done to weeks 6 7 8 ect and like you mentioned the whole picture is not placed right to get to that point,

I had some problems on week 2 with support also they too said we will contact you in 24 hours when i tryed to ask a few questions, I made money you see from maverick money makers and still have one of the best videos on you tube from last year promoting the product, yet i found the whole approch mach mentioned to his club in cell phone cash quite annoying as he mentioned not to use a clickbank link then says in video one promote maverick money maker's on admobile,

Mach used the same tactics then as cash cell phone making people wait a month or a period of time in membership for vital details to see the picture no bash intended to mach or products thats why i stayed as a affilate in the end

Its like saying dont eat your food with a folk then finding a spoon his whole approch on the course seems a little pale to the claim he firstly says, then the second video he goes "now its safe to folk feed" if you get what i am trying to say reverting the mistakes form the last video in my option

my cpa account manager picked for me the products he knew as i was lost in the video mach had out,

mach talks about how a young kid from singapore made so much money selling a classic tetris game with the tactics he shows everybody however he never mentioned that the kid sold the game on royality rights to the iphone apple store also netting him mass profit (as told by a devoloper)

My general point is this,

• you need to in the game for a while before you even think about mobile phone advertisment, alot of budget and time and not like the traditional affilate choice of if you have a budget and deep pockets then you would go for Google for instance if this was affilate marketig or CPA networks for traffic online and if not you have to use time you have it's self to make the budget so for newbies getting into the game would be hard yet he makes seem like it can be done by the video's

anyway sorry i've rambled on a bit but i wish you sucess danny and keep us posted on your results, im a bit bewilded on email at present on people trying to shove this as the next best thing to be around in my email yet your self and many talented warriors cant get one sale so far just hits

andy

netprofitz

We will be waiting with baited breath ….

dannynz

Hi Andy and all,

Thanks for the info Andy

We await Dumb Aussie (as a smart kiwi I love writing his name ) for all his detailed information. But from experience dealing with people who say they have made money with Cell phone Cash's training - ends up being a lie.

I am optimistic ...

... but know from all my experience that the way Mach is teaching is not easy to make work and maybe a complete scam? We don't really know because he has never ever - zero. nil gives real examples - i.e. his own live working campaigns - even a test or training examples. This is very strange for a coaching program as it would be so easy to do this.

Machs support is one of the worst in the industry from my experience. There is none. The people on the phone know nothing about the program and only take messages and create support tickets that NEVER get answered.

As a film making I would love to sit down with Mach, point a camera and ask him the hard questions -

1. Why don't you offer any real examples in your coaching?
2. What do you say to the hundreds who are a reporting no results from your coaching program and asking for refunds?
3. Are there any real examples of people making this work - can I interview them? What are their results?
3. Why does your Support offer little help with untrained people and why do support tickets never get answered?
4. Is this not one of the worst cases in internet marketing history - from a once well respected IM guru teacher - of false, misleading sales tactics to scam over 10,000 people in buying a training product that doesn't deliver?
5. Why have you not fixed/changed week 1 training so people don't go head and set up Admob campaigns to Click bank pages - as you teach later not to do this, and we know it doesn't work?
6. Why do you still have reference in your training to the Make Money category as a test when you now say Admob doesn't accept this?

... and many more I am sure we could come up with. If Mach was open to an interview, I would arrange it with one of my media contacts.

... wouldn't it be interesting to interview a number of these IM guru's and make a documentary around finding the truth? Soon I will be back in New Zealand and may approach Mark Ling one of the most respected IM's in the industry who is based in Christchurch. And also Mark Joyner who I have had lunch with before, he is also based in New Zealand.

I would love to ask Mark one simple question - some years ago you said farewell to IM, you published a long sales page about your reasons to leave and retire and sold a package called the Farewell package - was this another clever tactic to make millions (which he did)? Why did you never leave/retire? ... i.e are you not sending (I know cause I get them and have unsubscribed) almost an email a day and pushing your program - did you lie?

Danny

Cynthia A.

I emailed at least 4 marketers who sent me links to this cell phone system. I pointed all of them to this thread. One stopped promoting it as he admitted he was doing it because of the high gravity & really had no idea if it worked or not. One took me off his list (he used to email me practically every other day) - which is fine cuz I don't want to stay on the list of a Pimp. One is too big to respond but I did notify him that I'd unsubscribed from his list (this wasn't the first time he'd promoted a crap product). And the other said he used it & made money from it. He says you all are not doing what is recommended in the course (I never bought it & would never buy anything from "Mack Michaels" again). He says you are also missing the boat in the way you are using the Admob service in promoting the apps. He admits most marketers never tell their customers the real in house tricks that they are using to make cash (which we know) & that they skim over them and it is up to the BUYER to find or create success by testing and using fundamental knowledge (which I find ridiculous, BTW...especially if you target "newbies" who have no experience yet). But the "secrets" he has discovered on how to make this work were hard fought (based on his own testing & tweaking) & he wouldn't be sharing them.

Danny,
"Mack" would never consent to an interview to address the problems people are having with his course.

As great an interview series that would be, you can BET that not a single Internet marketing "Guru" will take you up on it. For years now many have jumped on the bandwagon of promoting any & everything that pays a decent affiliate commission - whether it works or not. Practically everyone heard about this cell phone system through a "IM Guru", right? But as you & many others have proven, it DOES NOT WORK! As long as people stay members & try to tweak it to get it to work, the affiliates will continue to get their portion of the monthly membership fee.

As someone else pointed out, you can cancel within 56 days via Clickbank, but you're only going to get your initial $25 back - not the several months worth of monthly dues you will have paid when you were testing. And of course you can never get back the money you lost trying the advertising strategies he suggests.

Obviously this system doesn't work for most people but Mack is laughing all the way to the bank! Do what a lot of smart Internet marketers do. Use Mack. Take his approach to this cell phone idea, take all his hard work: his sales letter & affiliate page that he paid good money to have written, his PPC ads. Create your OWN workable (operative word here) plan & sell it. Put it on Clickbank & get your own army of affiliates promoting it just like he did. That seems to be the only way you'll have success with this system.

dannynz

Thanks Cynthia, great feed back towards the discussion. Certainly IF I can get this to work - via my own efforts and trial and error - which mostly Mach has not taught me then I may create some form of education to help others do the same - and so I can make some money for my offline mission work.

... if I can make it work! I would share live examples, even maybe a live webinar with full instructions. I am currently loving Ed Dales thirtydaychallangeplus material, for me he is the most honest IM guru I have found to date - an Aussie (certainly not "dumb"), honest, open, shares from the heart and offers great info utilizing the latest technologies.

Danny

netprofitz

Hey Danny, are you also based in Christchurch?

I think there is several people here who would be interested in that idea. Macks training is falling way short. I had another read of his salepage. That $6k/day that he claimed to make was from promoting ClickBank products which judging by the experiences of others in this thread is hard to believe. He stated that:

"After about an hour I found the right products that would pay me the highest commissions so I decided to pull the trigger and start promoting them.

Next, I wrote up some simple ads and put together all the pieces of my marketing plan, which I will also give you to carbon copy for yourself once you become a member of the Cell Phone Cash Coaching Course."

I think the only 'ad examples' that he has given to date have mainly been the make money type of ads, yet he now has a big disclaimer saying not to promote make money type of products.

He also stated that he was starting to make money within 24 hours and

"Every time I hit the "refresh" button, another $50 or $100 bucks appeared in my account.."

Most CB product pages are not mobile compliant and even if you did create a mobile compliant landing page for a CB product the problem is the actual CB order page is not mobile compliant. I'd say that Mach would have had to be selling them off the phone through some sort of follow up email.

But we can only speculate. Roll on Module 7.

dannynz

No I currently overseas working with a Christian non-profit mission to the poor and an orphanage for kids, I am doing all their media, new website etc. I return to Auckland airport in Nov, in NZ for a short time. Depending where you are in NZ we can meet up.

... so in my spare time I am trying to make a steady income to continue my work, why I started with Cell Phone Cash and the Thirty Day Challenge. When back in NZ I will focus on making sites work and Cell ph marketing.

My reason for making millions online is certainly the opposite of the norm "get rich", mantra you get so often. I say make money and give it away, you can not take it with you - makes a great sales page,

Lets see if I can make it work, I need to get back to NZ and focus on it, too busy getting two sites finished here during the day, at night I am tired and sick of the computer. I certainly will not be selling something that I can not prove that I can make work. I expect no refunds! ... hope to get help from a programmer.

Yes this is very interesting, I don't get how he could/would lie like this, if he is - we assume he is - certainly looks like it.

We assume he makes a lot of money off his other training program for IM (which you can get all free with thirtydaychallenge) MMM so it makes no sense to lie and scam people for just quarter a million - 10,000 x 25. Maybe he is like me trying to raise money to start orphanages?

It an issue if he continues to market it etc and not fix the training, and not give examples of it working on screen (are you reading this Mach!). You could continue to get away with it as new people joining, start the training make no money, give up and think it was just them and who cares about $25 to $50 odd dollars right? We know NO Clickbank product will sell like he has on the sales page.

Regards

Danny

One Dumb Aussie

Dear warriors,

Danny - congradulations on your appointment as the moderator for this thread-

I have posted a few comments on this topic and have been asked for detailed Stats.

I put together quite a detailed post and the deleted it.
WHY?

If I showed you my campaigns, my Urls, My ads, my statistics screen shots and everything else, i am giving away my hard work and testing for free.

I have looked through this thread and can't find any really detailed stats that anyone is providing, so I am going to keep mine to myself.
Bag me if you wish, But really would you post successful campaigns in a public forum before you are finished with them?
Weight loss products, video 2 week 2, 1st point "products that appeal to younger crowd"

Don't send people to landing Pages, QUOTE " we do not recommend sending cell phone visitors directly to websites, squeeze pages, and pitch pages."

It is also mentioned later that getting iphone pages approved is hard, If you use You tube video you get approved as they are 100% compatible.

I would like to state this, Sales is a numbers or % Game. Eventually the math will come out on top.
It is hard to gauge a products success with 500 or even 1000 Visits. You might get lucky and make High percentage conversions straight off, But over time the math will win and the sales will level out.
On the other hand you may have limited success at the start and find your sales come only after some time.

I have run campaigns where the Success was Instant, I have run campaigns that have had 2 and 3000 visitors with little success, then a batch of sales from the last few hundred have made the campaign profitable.

I have run campaigns where I offered an ebook download and not seen any sales, then a week or 2 later after you have finalised the campaign and moved on you find some sales coming in from the ebook imbedded links or the follow up emails that the vendor sends.

Read "Think and grow rich" by Napolean Hill and read the story about the gold Miner that Gave up. He sold his mining equipment for scrap and the land as useless, The new owners thought, Let's mine a little before we pull down the equipment. Within Days they had hit one of the Biggest gold veins in the US.
It is true that sometimes gold is lying on the ground or in a creek bed and easy to get, Other times you need to go MILES Underground to find it.

Lastly, The Cell phone cash course comes with a guarantee, Why not check it out yourself and make your own decision, If it doesn't stack up get your money back.

dannynz

I dont see myself as a the moderator, just an honest person wanting to help others and make this work. This thread has turned into a helpful group of honest people just wanting to make this work ... I assume?

I have given a lot of detail on my tests etc, even if they were working I would still do this. It is a shame you can not share the detail as this is what everyone is here on this thread for - looking for facts, truth, results etc especially from people who have made it work.

Maybe you missed my recent posts then? Here is the latest results I posted last week -

Video iphone ad for paid surveys:

1. 350 clicks now, I watch it so not to blow the budget, I only want to see 500 clicks as a test
2. tested changing the advert for response, currently "Touch: Make Money Secrets Video"
3. resulting 3 opt-ins. this triggers the CPA email with links etc and then the video on you tube

note: it was showing the video instantly with an opt-in for email for more information but had issues with the video showing on the iphone and no interest so switched back to the opt-in page as the first step.

4. no sales to date (hard to achieve of 3 opt-ins)
5. URL of page - 123 Cash Survey | Make Money Now Video

note: I changed the sales page to have more sales copy. I viewed it on my friends iphone and had to zoom in but it read and worked ok and was able to fill in the form myself. It is not the best looking page but is ok for testing. After entering the email, the video played beautifully via youtube which is fully compatible for the iphone.

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This is only one example, also member ishansoni listed his results a few days ago, and many others over the past 6 odd weeks. We just have not seen any results/stats from people when they say they have made money or are making money - only one person has shared info effectively if I remember right and most of the detailed I had to get off them via instant message ... very strange.

He only says it is not recommend because this is only one of the options, but the main option for most ... and the main option taught in Machs training in the first few weeks?

In another post here we asked you if you could give us some feed back on this -

You said - "5. I cheated with making the pages iphone compatible by using wordpress and an iphone theme. Keep that one to yourself though works a treat!"

What are the URLs? Are these not landing pages, web pages etc, when you are saying, I assume, not to do this?

Again Dumb Aussie you actual stats would be appreciated by all here I am sure. The internet is a big place, there is a lot of room for an few extra people promoting a product/process that you have made work - if people decided to copy as such and if your success is even for real? I would not let this be the reason why you don't give out the information.

Remember this thread is all about discussing making Mobile/cell phone marketing a success and Machs course. If your posts say you are making money then it would be appropriate and add credibility (and integrity) to a post i.e. to list the results with stats etc.

Thanks again

Danny

pearsonbrown

"Danny - congradulations on your appointment as the moderator for this thread-"

ALL Warriors are encouraged to be member-moderators.


"I have posted a few comments on this topic and have been asked for detailed Stats.

I put together quite a detailed post and the deleted it.
WHY?"

I checked back through the thread. There are a few deleted posts but none from you.

Somebody else made a similar claim in another thread so I reckon that there was probably a database error. Sorry.

Pearson

dannynz

Hi Pearson, I think Dumb Aussie is referring to the fact that HE personally deleted the information after he decided it was too sensitive and could be negative for his money making efforts.

He decided he was not going to make it available to the discussion ... which would have added greatly to the thread and our research efforts as a group.

I don't think he meant it was deleted by the moderator or that it was a database error.

I could be wrong?

regards
Danny

jempub

Hi Danny.

I think it's funny he says there are no DETAILED
stats from other posters...

Evidently he didn't look at MY earlier posts.

No one... and I mean NO ONE has had ANY success
with this.

I tested over $1000.00 with many different techniques
and every one of them netted a ZERO.

I'm a pretty savvy and experienced marketer and do
really well for myself but this Cell Phone Cash is just
not good.

Talk soon,
Gary

dannynz

Yes it seems so, but normally the case as we have experienced from people stating they are making money from this ... and also these people seem to being selling it e.g. have a link in their signature to a page selling the Cell Phone Cash system/review site etc.

Sorry to hear this, I know you worked hard to make this work, like so many of us experienced, smart people.

Maybe I could learn some things from you?

Regards

Danny

jempub

Well... We have NOTHING from "Dumb Aussie" although
he did write a L O N G post on his "success" and then
decided to NOT post it due to no one else giving detailed
results...LOL

Gary

One Dumb Aussie

Correct DANNY, Missed an 'n' it is Not a 'y'

My bad

l23bc

the only time i have noticed any moderator deleting things is on 3 reasons on warrior forum

1)if it contains infomation on warrior speicial offers that are currently active and the product owner complains to warrior

2)bashing or having a pop at someone or a product in a bad way-remember what you say online can actully get you in court now or the website into trouble, very strange but factual.

i mean look at the google affair were someone was blogging on blogger.com and slagging someone famous off-google had reveal their identity by a court order.

now dumb ozzie, what excuse do you have now to not prove it i mean lets face it.

1)stephenjames said he made lots of profit-proof shown equals none.
2)yourself is saying the same route-but nope

Originally Posted by One Dumb Aussie http://www.warriorforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
3. If your sending people to web landing or squeeze pages you missed a video or Two

5. I cheated with making the pages iphone compatible by using wordpress and an iphone theme. Keep that one to yourself though works a treat!


by the way wordpress does not really work well on a iphone, version 2 of wordpress is just been released as all the other versions frooze or hanged on the iphone,

the iphone softwere is safari,reason behind it all, wordpress supports macs and windows computers, there is a mini app that works well for wordpress for iphone on sale at iphonestore but wordpress is cut down its not the full wordpress blog site also to back up what i am saying the application is currently not working so how could you make a landing page for iphone for cell phone cash


WordPress for iPhone Forums Has anyone got this app working for a SELF-HOSTED blog?


also the latest version just got released for iphone yesterday so your wordpress blog theory is hard to beleive im afraid

http://iphone.wordpress.org/2009/10/...ed-for-review/

so how could of you got wordpress working when version 7.2.1 been hanging on latest iphone and iphone touch wordpress had to update it to work for several months,

im finding you hard to beleive sorry to say and no bash intended at you. just saying that i feel

andy

xannon

I have joined this system, and yes you get the videos once per week, so you have to wait so he can keep you on for at least 2 months to get the money out of you. I'm on week five, so he's been spouting to use make money offers in the beginning, because they are really popular, and now I see a disclaimer at the bottom telling you not to use make money ads for your cell phone campaign because they don't work well, and try to use an ad that will pay your for collecting emails and zipcodes now. So he's changing things as he goes along, which shows me what others have been saying, that this is all just some big test. He shows his own clickbank "earnings" through cell phone cash, but I seriously doubt he made that with his own system, and not just selling his other crap through usual PPC. He has support that he doesn't answer, so why bother with it! Just to entice you to join so that you'll supposedly have someone to help you through it all, which you really won't. Not to mention he reiterates the same things over and over again just to make his videos longer so it looks like he has a decent amount of information. It's all based on iPhones, and I have a hard time believing all those teenagers who have no money, because they or their parents are already paying their huge cell phone bills, will be clicking your ads and buying your products. I will sum up his entire system for you: use admob, place ad on iphone/ipods, lose more money than you make. Someone prove me wrong, cause please, I would like to know if someone really did make money with this.

dannynz

Surya, have you been able to make it make money for you? If so can you supply stats etc on this?

I am just about to call phone support to ask why my support ticket has not been answered for over 2 weeks I think it is now. (I just rang, they could not find my support ticket, so had to create a new one, I asked to talk to Mach and an interview. I asked the support person if she users it and no, none of them actually do).

There is NO support. I don't call this coaching and I would now never trust or recommend Mavericks coaching and products - at this stage until I have some feed back and real coaching from them - I am hoping to get direct contact with Mack, or turn up with a camera and make a film called - Mack and Me

If you want Internet Marketing training it is all free at Thirtydaychallenge.com You dont have to pay $100 odd a month to MMM.

Dumb Aussie, it is disappointing you can not keep your word and show us the stats, I assume there are none - thanks for the confirmation.

Danny