Derek Allen

I put this system to the test twice and I saw a very small return the first time and wasted $50 bucks the second time. I used a very intreging cpa email submit offer on both thinking that it would fit very well seeing as I am using the iphone as my gateway and I walked away from that dissapointed. I canceled the membership after the second go. The first time I made my money back ($50) and the second time I made nothing. He said in his videos that a simple email submit offer would be a home run but to no avail. I myself can't afford to keep throwing money at a dead duck.

Maybe others have had success. But I do think that is just theory. Mack is an information marketer that is how he makes his money.

I am not here to bash the product because like I said it probably has worked for many people. I just want to let my fellow warriors how I feel about the course.

Now that google has bought admob all things will go to hell. The cheap cpc that admob is all about will be ridiculous. The big G is making life so much harder for us I.Mers. Before you know it they will be buying up everything and making us either pay or get out. The whole world as we know it will be ran by Google and Walmart if we don't watch out (he,he)!!!!!

Sorry for the ranting and raving.

dannynz

Hi Mann,

Sorry I thought I had given details on the results - basically not much to write about. I have done a lot of testing and I have a lot more to come. Including the traditional cell phones similar to mobiSiteGalore and others. The issue with HTML pages is they appear very small and the user has to zoom in to see the information on the iphone.

... which is why I spent time getting a FULLY optimized iphone page with graphics that match the affiliate sales page. It appears on the page perfectly in place, they click and the video loads and plays, or they can sign up for the free videos/offer in the opt-in box.

After the video finishes it says they are now being redirected back to the sales page/opt-in form to grab their free videos on making money online. Once the form is filled in a thank page appears instructing them to check their emails and watch the videos in their spare time from their computer.

... this also triggers an email to me saying someone new has joined, and triggers the autoresponder to the new prospects email. This was all achieved by working in with the affiliate directly, solving problems etc via Skype.

I think this would be close to the perfect test, all the components are in place, and if this doesn't work then I don't know if much else well. Other then testing a different product. I could not have achieved this without the direct help from the CPA/Affiliate which I highly recommend and will reveal on my blog soon.

The goal with this test/offer is to generate leads, the upsell is controlled by the affiliate, first 20 free videos, then a paid site and training - offering with a recurring commission of $47 a month.

I am going to share this with you all soon, but there was a delay/issue with the ARS, and I want to test for a few days before I release it or it might stuff up the stats from people from this thread joining.

Thanks, I certainly am not wishing to become a guru, if a guru then to teach how to make money and give it away. I have a group of IM with this goal in mind. Yes different, then you might get from the typical IM guru. IM who wish to make a difference.

Regards

Cell Phone Marketing Guru Danny

Big Hombre

None of us can Deezy, but your story is not unusual. Remember Mac Michaels' huge hype and inflated claims! "You'll be making hundreds a week in no time," or something to that effect. "It's easy!" was a statement heard and seen throughout the promo materials, and a theme running through the course. At least at first, before he began to cover his butt and change his tune.

Actually, my friend, I'm not sure that is the case. I saw nothing in the short-lived SellFoneCrap forums that would lead me to believe this, nor with the contacts I made there, and certainly not here.

If there are new advertisters from the IM world making serious bank on Admob, they are staying very mum. As noted by others in this thread, those folks claiming great success have yet to provide verification.


I fear you are right, Deezy!

The aquisition of Admob by Google is really depressing and even disheartening news for me, and I'm sure I speak for many other experienced PPCers when I say this. In no time we'll be looking at the "Admob slap(s)," quality score issues and all the crap that goes with advertising on Google.

Not that I want this to turn into a pity party. Maybe there will be a window where all of us here on the bleeding edge can actually thrive in mobile advertising. But given the way Google has made PPC advertising on their network so onerous (I don't even use them anymore for testing), it's probably not long before they do to cell phone marketing what they've done to the web.

Oh happy day.

Not.

In a strange sort of way, we can even thank Mac Micheals for this development, too. I'm sure a key factor in Google's decision to buy Admob was predicated, at least in part, by the huge influx of new advertisers in the last few months. To the actuaries, it probably looks like Admob is growing by leaps and bounds! What they don't know is that these advertisers came in by way of of the "limited membership" SellFoneCrap system, most of them don't have big bucks, and a large majority of them will ultimately quit.

Not that Google cares. They've got more money than God, and like all monopolistically-inclined companies do, they try to absorb any competitors who might someday pose a real challenge to them.

Admob is laughing to the bank. So is Mac Michaels. And Clickbank too.

This probably explains why I'm crying.

Big Hombre

Hey, Cell Phone Marketing Guru Danny [hehe]

You did give your preliminary results, my friend. I was referring to more detailed results. No prob. We (I) greatly appreciate any and all input!



Yes, it sounds like you have really thought this through, and you're putting your money where your mouth is. Nice! Of course, this begs the question as to whether "anybody" can do it as Mac Michaels has been heard to state.

As we all know, the SellFoneCrap system was positioned as something "easy" that "anybody" could do. If you truly have to go to the lengths you're going to, Danny, then it effectively eliminates 99% of other would-be marketers. This is undoubtedly good from a competition standpoint.

As a side-note (been meaning to mention this), am I the only one that was PO'd when Mac mentioned, about half way through the course, that the "best" way to market on cell phones was to take live calls? I mean, out of one side of his mouth he says "I'm not a salesman and a I don't want to be," but then out of the other he's telling us to take calls or even... believe it or not (ridiculous for noobs)... "set up a phone center."

Yeah right.

Now I don't know about you, but if I have to talk to people on the phone, whether I'm actively trying to "sell" them on something or simply chatting, I'm feeling like a salesman (at least to some degree).

And if I'm the typical low-budget Internet marketer, a phone center (even a contracted one) is a bit out of my league. Duh.

Somehow, he forgot to mention all this in his super-hyped pitches!

Anyway, my soon-to-be test (if mobiSiteGalore ever gets my tech issue resolved) will not be nearly so "slick" as your stuff, Danny, but it should be interesting to see if it works.


Never meant it as a slap (Google or otherwise) -- I think you probably know that. It's "gurus" like Mr. SellFoneCrap that have given the word a really vile connotation these days.

I'm looking forward to your future posts. Keep up the great work...

-- Karl

dannynz

Yes Karl, unfortunately to do it right it is a lot more complicated, certainly not easy - my programmer/designer friend Dion, the Affiliate manager and their programmers. But if this works the Affiliate is open to accommodating others, and I will work with Dion to produce a how to video or two.

Testing starts in a few days, as long as I can get good internet as I am in Mexico working and have to go to a cafe to get access over the past week. Traveling soon back to my country and then can finally set up my office and computers. I say this cause I need to be in front of the screen the whole time the ad is running on Admob to adjust the text advert etc and not blow the budget.

I was just testing some things and let an advert run, then paused it at $6 in costs, refreshed over the next hour or so even though it was paused and finally had cost $25.

Thanks for all the feed back to the forum/thread here, yes Macks course - SellFoneCrap (good name to describe it), is a shocker and still sucking in hundreds every week I am sure - boosting Admobs, Macks and Clickbanks success.

Danny

thomasmps

is the only place people are trying to advertis is on the iphone how about verizon or ATandT? can you advertise there?

dannynz

Hi all

Sorry this has taken awhile but I have been testing the iphone optimized page on Admob. My blog will have more detail soon, but I am sorry to have to say the results have been very bad. Not a good sign. My next step is to talk directly to Admob staff for feed back.

Danny

brand-all

Wealthwinners you have just hit the foundation stone for why this great forum works & what it is here for.
Before buying any IM product, promise or promotion we should all just come here and read the reports coming in from around the world.

With this product and this guy, it was easy for me because I remembered another thread from early this year. It was a thread about one of his other promotions and the feedback in that thread convinced me never to buy anything that this guy promotes.

Just put this guy's name into the search box of this forum and you'll learn what I know, Cynthia knows and many others know.

In fact I'm now turned off of the affiliate marketer who emailed me about it. If he promotes this guys stuff he obviously doesn't give a hoot about the customer (me) so I'll be blocking him from now on also.

Hope you are reading this Matt.

Wuuki

Hi,

Now he is even using his income from CellPhoneCash "program" to promote his latest
coaching membership site. Amazing.

This Cell phone desaster is making him $100,000 per month.

Now, I can say I really learned something out of buying this course and sharing the insights with you in this forum.

So, let's do us better and create a membership site that deserves to bring in this kind of money.

Take care,

Volker

PS: Most of the time I am glad to be in the PPC/PPV biz and not selling something to other internet marketers......

godsgood

Well, I bought this about 3 weeks ago. It is not like me at all to purchase something without first finding reviews of the product (although, in this case most reviews are from affiliates just selling it anyway), but it sounded so unique and such a new concept that I guess I just got too excited over the possibilities. Had I searched it, I would have found this wonderful thread earlier and not wasted my time or money. I just gained access to week 3, and am not even going to bother watching it. I am not going to reiterate what all the previous posts have said about the course, I will only say I wholeheartedly agree, and sincerely hope no one that reads this will still go and purchase the course because "maybe it will work for them."

My personal experience: I was excited after watching the first module, and promptly went and put $50 (which I couldn't really afford in the first place) into admob to start a campaign. From reading the disclaimer below the videos, I knew even though he was showing clickbank "make money" products, not to promote them. What I did instead was promote a clickbank product that had a short intro page, asking for name and email only in return for a free report. No video. It then took them to a sales page, which I figured right off that no one would read all the way to the bottom and buy. But I know the product will continue to promote for me through email after retaining the customers address, with my affiliate links embedded into the follow-up emails. So I figured I may get a sale from that.

The next day, the ad was approved. When the $50 was gone in the first few hours, and I had gotten over 1600 clicks, I was pretty excited, even though no actual sales had been recorded. The free report that was offered was sent over 10 days, and then normal autoresponder messages were sent thereafter. So I figured after the initial 10 days, I would at least see 1 or 2 sales. Nope. Zero, zilch, nada to this day, three weeks later.

After watching module two, I then decided to try a CPA offer, as I had never heard of being able to get paid this way, and thought that this was probably the ticket. Signed up for MaxBounty, got approved the next day, and started searching for an offer that would work with the iPhone. Once I found what I thought would work well, I went and set up a campaign, this time targeting certain geographical areas, and ages. However, an unexpected bill had come up, and I didn't have the $50 to add to the account. That was when I found this forum. Thank God! So now I am just going to continue (or rather get my rear in gear and begin ) the other ways of marketing that I have learned.

I did ask for a refund through Clickbank, and also pleaded with them to remove this product from their marketplace (fat chance ). I also asked for a refund of the $79 I spent to join his Maverick Money Makers club, which is also not worth the monthly fee if you ask me, but that is for another thread I guess. Once I get the refund, I will promptly turn around and spend LESS THAN that same amount of money, and join the War Room here .

Thanks for reading, hope it wasn't too long and boring.

godsgood

Wow, I have been totally putting off article marketing because of the thought that I couldn't write, but I just realized my post above was 582 words. And would probably be helpful to someone that just stumbled across it. Easier than I thought! Maybe this will be my first article...

Bridgett

ezgoldrun

Hi, everybody:

Being a stay-at-home Dad for now, I have been looking for something to augment our family income that I can spend about 20 hours per week doing. Not looking for anything over-the-top income wise, but being realistic while cutting through the fluff of overblown income potential statements by most IM-promoting charlatans out there.

I did not buy into the income projection claims about cell phone advertising made by Maverick Money Makers, but it did look promising if I kept realistic and reasonable income projections in mind for my efforts. So, with an open mind and a bit of skepticism, I jumped in. The monthly fee was not going to break the bank, so I could justify the expense.

Like so many others on this thread, my first foray into Admob left me $50 lighter in the pocket without one single sale. While doing some research on the Web into why this happened (the customer support rep at MMM I spoke with was NO help whatsoever) I stumbled upon WF and this topic. Having read through the entire thread, I decided to throw in my two cents, also.

I just completed week five and finally became frustrated with the same (and sometimes conflicting) elementary marketing fundamentals being rehashed and spoon fed in tiny increments. Today I contacted CB and asked to have my membership to Maverick Coaching canceled.

Being somewhat new to IM, I did glean a few helpful tips on keyword research from the training, but I too feel that this industry is too new for any but the most serious and deep-pocketed individuals or companies to jump into the fray.

The final nail in the coffin was when I learned that Google is looking to finalize their deal to acquire Admob.

I truly feel that those of you more expert and dedicated folks who are tweaking your methods to make this thing work will one day be met with great success. I don't have the bandwidth or knowledge to dedicate to those kinds of efforts, so I'll leave it to the professionals.

Lastly, before anyone decides to purchase this coaching, please take a peek at the user comments and questions posted on Admob's own Advertiser Forum--they're not too far off from what is being said here at WF.


Sincerely,
Norman

dannynz

No Bridgett your post was great - well done, yes you could write articles, focus on it more. Glad you managed to get a refund on what truly is a terrible product - shocking that Click bank allows it to be sold when it has such a bad track record and high rate of refunds.

regards

Danny

dannynz

Hi Norman, great post. Also glad you found the forum and truth on MMM and his non-success products. Yes it is hard work to get this to work. In 2010 my team are going to test out a few more things.

I sent an email to Admob hoping to get some feed back on my recently fully iphone optimized page which resulted in zero opt-ins ... but still waiting 2 months later.

Regards

Danny

thegabrieljibril

mack michaels is not a good leader, his cell phone cash method is ludicrous , he even goes off topic and begins to talk about adwords,cpa and some other nonsnese, i do not recommend that course

ezgoldrun

Danny:

Thanks for your reply. I will keep checking in on this topic from time to time to see the progress you are making in 2010. Although I'm no expert, I feel that once the bugs are ironed out with cell phone marketing that it will be just as competitive, and possibly as costly, as traditional web-based IM is today. This is something I would like to revisit in the future, but certainly without the "help" of MMM.

I only jumped in here to hopefully stop someone from making the same mistake I did.

Thanks,
Norman

livingmudfish

Hi all,

I’ve been a member of this site for nearly a year and unfortunately I have not made as much use of it as I should. If I had consulted with the Warriors I may have saved myself a few bucks.

I have enjoyed reading this extensive thread on the pitfalls of Cell Phone Cash and it all boils down to one thing – STEER CLEAR!

My wife & I bought into the smooth voice of Mack Michaels, his un-pushy style of delivering the sales pitch. It wasn’t over sensationalised with flashy graphics & quick moving video, plus we saw the potential in marketing to smart phones.

My wife & I own a few rental properties and network with property professionals regularly and have spoken at a few events & wrote a manual about letting and property management which we managed to sell a few copies to property investors here in the UK. This got us thinking of other ways to create cashflow and along came Mack.

This is my 2 cents worth.

The course is very well put together, Mack has a clear speaking voice and puts his point across with the vagueness and elusiveness of a well trained politician. He tells you what to do one week and then scoffs at the approach the following week making you feel like you’ve done it wrong or have misinterpreted his instructions.

The examples he uses are not fitting for marketing to the mobile networks, as we’ve all found out and at much cost that CB products do not convert and most CPA offers don’t convert, be that either because the website is not optimised for the iPhone or because Admob screw up the tracking.

He also uses examples such as making money online which lower down the lesson page is a rider, I quote:

‘We do not recommend promoting products on AdMob relating to making money, working from home, etc. They may seem like great products to promote on cell phones, but they do not convert very well in our testing. Also, we do not recommend sending cell phone visitors directly to websites, squeeze pages, and pitch pages.’

Ok Mack what do we do then? Because all your examples pertain to these types of offers.

So after the first Weeks tuition we were told that if we set up a CB promotion we would definitely see profits. Needless to say we saw a loss. We tried again with an email submit only promo, again a loss. Someone somewhere out of 150,000 impressions must have put their email address in.

I emailed them on a Sunday and to be fair I got a reply that day off a woman called Linda, she dubbed herself as Mack’s right hand woman. I told her I was disillusioned with the program and that Mack seemed to be teaching us how to do by showing us what not to do. She said they cannot divulge their specific campaigns as they would be copied by everyone and therefore less profitable for them & us. Fair enough I understand that.

I decided to put the whole course on the back-burners until it was all unlocked which cost me another hit to the wallet (I joined under my own aff link so at least I get some money back). I’m aware this post is dragging on so this is the course in a nutshell:

Week 1 – basics with allusions to greater things

Week 2 – re-cap of week 1 with more basics with yet more allusions to greater things

Week 3 - re-cap of week 1 & week 2 with more basics with yet more allusions to greater things

Need I carry on?

Ultimately the course unwinds like a spring constantly covering old ground before moving on to cover more old ground and only making small progress.

If Mack Michaels was a driving instructor he would teach you to drive by showing you how to fly a plane or sail a boat. None of his examples at his own admission were relevant to mobile marketing but he kept spoon feeding them to us, and then at the end tells us that we need to create YouTube videos that sell the product for us, err HELLO earth calling Mack, you yourself sir said that the iPhone can’t view video so what’s the use in that? Again a lesson in how not to do it, and as far as creating recorded messages, he glossed over that quickly, I don’t know how to set a recorded message up or get a call centre to handle incoming calls for me, where’s the lesson in that?

All in all I’m not a happy man, the basic info he spoon fed to us could have easily been found by a few Google searches.

Eagerness got the better of me & Mack Michaels got my cash!

LivingMudFish

Sorry for the long post & if this is an unfair review and you have to ban me then so be it!

miellas

Hi Everyone,

New to the forum and nice to see the excitement about the mobile web. In my honest opinion, I see a large potential for the mobile web even though some of the naysayers may disagree. As per the question about the video files, it is recommended that 3gp and mp4 files are the best choice for viewing video on your mobile rather than flv files.

As for Danny, great initiative on putting together the cell phone marketing and development page together.

My experience with mobile has been great thus far. Like many of us mobile site lovers out there will tell you "Build it, and they will come" Traffic has been picking up steadily and if you get into the game early, it will put you right up in the search engines before the rest of the gang jumps on the bandwagon.

Jim Hudson

Hello all, I didn't have time to search the whole thread here, but I had bought into this program and canceled in 3 weeks because of the huge amount of red flags I was seeing with other advertisers on admobs. I have a link to the google group that they have established so you can judge for yourself. AdMob Advertiser Discuss | Google Groups
Dave Korpi has a tips newsletter if you want and his link is at the bottom of the google group page. If the link I placed here does not work just search in google groups for admobs and you will find it. Dave has a free (with signup) newsletter to help those looking to try and not lose their shorts placing ads and not getting sales. It's all in the type of landing page that is I-Phone ready and he helps a bit with that. I hope this tidbit will help anybody still brave enough to continue on with this program. Good luck and be careful.

livingmudfish

Hi Miellas,

I appreciate what your are saying, I think this thread got started because of the poor information that was sold to us by Cell Phone Cash. I think we all agree with you in the fact that the mobile web has great potential which is why many of us bought into Mack Michaels course.

I'll have a look at your sites shortly, I'm pleased you are doing so well, a couple of questions if I may:

How are the sites monetised? is it thru affiliate links etc
How exactly do you build a mobile site?
& How are you driving traffic to them is it thru Admob or organically?

Thanks

LMF

l23bc

hi there i think you should read the entire thread also look around on google on who is mack micheals video and you will learn a few things about them

as for cell phone cash i would not entertain it, tried it with cpa offers and everything and got no were in fact a lot of people lost money and people stayed subcribed till week 8 just to ifind there admobile ads being taken off or deleted,

anyway read the entire thread or buy cell phone cash and loose alotta money

your choice,

andy

livingmudfish

I think everyone should browse Cynthia A's website isitworththemoney.com it has a video about Mack Michaels which is definitely worth viewing.

LMF

dannynz

HI All

Good posts from livingmudfish, at least you gave it a good try

I watched the video you suggested on isitworththemoney.com about Mack Michaels, very good review and interesting that Mack Michaels is not his real name. He doesn't sound like a guy you would want to trust. His Cell Phone Cash course certainly reflex's what this guy is really like ... useless comes to mind.

I wanted to let you all know that I FINALLY had a reply from Admob with some feedback on why they think my iphone optimized ad/page was not seeing any results i.e. no opt-ins.

... I made their suggested changes and started a new ad with also a new ad headline and a custom tile image. You can read admob's reply and see the screen shot of my latest ad set-up on my blog page (link below).

Hopefully now that I have the time to work on it more and we might start to see some results. I hope to test some other products once I can find a more local programmer to help out.

Happy New Year to all

Danny

silho

Hey Everyone:

I see that many of you (like me) bought the Cell Phone Cash course. I browsed through most of this thread (surely couldn't read it all). Did anyone find anything useful in that course? It seems like many of you were completely dissatisfied with it.


Silho

l23bc

I see that many of you (like me) bought the Cell Phone Cash course. I browsed through most of this thread (surely couldn't read it all). Did anyone find anything useful in that course? It seems like many of you were completely dissatisfied with it.

I wish this thread was put to bed but seems alot of people are finding it and wondering alot about it
if you read the posts alot more silho, you might of seen mixed results, a lot at the time when i posted about cell phone cash people were saying they have made money but with the suspicion from others's on the forum they have done so as a affilate and not the program itself.

i know alot of big hitters on the warrior forum who have lists and promote clickbank items have plugged the plug on the product. They refuse to promote the product to their customers and no bash intended to the product but alot of people followed the advice and lost 10,20,100,500,1,000 ect in money with admobile which now is owned by google so the infomation mack talks about is outdated.

i too was one who tried the method with cpa and made a loss,
but like what read on the warrior forum in a post on here most products are either a hit or miss and internet marketing or make money online products are usually no exception because what i learnt from maverick money makers iand cell phone cash is to roll my own sleeves up and find my own way online to a profitable business online.
there is too much of the hype at present of "make $$$$ by this...or that and all i learnt has been from people here in this forum.

silho

l23bc:

Thanks for your response. It seems like no one is finding luck with that program. I can tell you that after many years in the mobile industry almost everything that I read in CPCash was not up to par or way too general to be relevant to the industry.

Are there any other good mobile marketing programs out right now?

Is anyone here really working on a mobile marketing campaign (aside from what they tried to do through CPCash)?

l23bc

silho

There are a few methods that people are trying out by cpa marketing promoting iphone softwere or applications to mobile subcribers, from what i have read online there was a story about a young 14 year old boy in singapore or somewere who made himself a millionare by somehow promoting a simple tetris type game on the iphone store and a couple of facebook applications,

i too have worked in the mobile industry i used to work for o2 telefoniaca, here in the u.k and a few other mobile company's such as vodafone and singlepoint

anyway but from experience if you had your own program an a whole lot of cash then mobile marketing plus the cost for a mobile carrier or operator advertisment like admobile,for example it could be a way to go!


However i have no other ideas as of yet of any other programs on the market

andy

silho

I'm so glad that someone else has a good amount of mobile marketing experience as well. I think mobile will pose a great opportunity for a lot of marketers once they are taught what NOT to do.

I can tell you this now.... From my experience it is not easy to make money in mobile advertising until you've built up a high level of trust and respect with your list. I'm sure you know this, but a lot of other people are reading CPCash and whatever else is in the market and they think that they can post ads and make money the way they do with online PPC.

A lot of cash it not needed to make money with mobile advertising, but I think it has to be the right offer. Selling biz ops on a mobile phone will not work too well. I really think people in this space should focus on the opt-in and nothing else.

"I think the reason why everyone is having a very difficult time with AdMob (and other ad networks) is because you are trying to advertise biz ops on the network. For the most part, mobile advertising is not about making money. When a consumer is on their phone they are looking for local businesses (the near by Post Office, Best Buy, or calling a pizza place to pick up dinner), looking for movie times, restaurant locations, or just being silly (Facebook, Twitter, playing games, etc). In order to go after the audience that you want - that might actually click on your ads - you'd have to really drill down and only post your ads on business sites.

And even then it is not going to be easy to build a massive list from mobile advertising. Appealing to the general market and the masses is usually how you achieve success in the mobile advertising space, but huge success is only, really achieved once you've built a list (using the normal methods we all know about) and then chose SMS over email to run your campaigns. Obviously, you dont run all of your campaigns via SMS, but the ones you do will have HUGE response rates and should make you more money."

I just posted this in another section in reply to someone else's post, but it applies here as well.

silho

I just checked. They're still up and running.

Here are two questions for the group?

What is your biggest obstacle when it comes to mobile marketing?
Are you trying to do it for yourselves or for your local clients?

miellas

Hi LMF,

Thank you for the response. I have been experimenting with ebay feeds currently which have been doing well for me before and after ebay updated their affiliate system. Traffic to all sites have been organic thus far with unique visitors steadily moving in a positive fashion but by no means in an extreme level. For greater monetization ratio I would recommend anyone planning on building out there own mobile sites to offer both pc and mobile versions of their sites.

Mosaic

Hi, Warriors

My 1st post here, so hi!

I've been browsing this forum for a bit and just wanted to say thank you to everyone. I know I can always get an honest, unbiased opinion here from real people who have tried stuff.

Anyway, I got the pitch for this product in my inbox today. Pretty slick. I agree that the cell phone market could be an amazing thing, but IMO this product isn't the ticket.

I agree with everyone about buying clickbank products from my cell phone - just wouldn't happen. I think CPA offers would work pretty well, though.

Well, his price has gone up to $67 per month now. Thank goodness I checked here 1st, because I also didn't realize it was monthly.

Until I see some more positive feedback on this product, I'm out.

silho

I hate to talk bad about someone's product since I don't know what the intentions were when this CPCash product was created and sold to the public. Everyone here seems to have done that for me. But I will say this....

I've been in the mobile marketing industry since '99 and I've done a lot of campaigns with small mom and pop businesses and countless Fortune 500 companies. I've promoted everything from soda to the launch of a TV show - all on a cell phone. I know the people that started Third Screen Media (acquired by Microsoft), Ipsh.net (acquired by Omnicom - one of the worlds largest ad agencies), Virgin Mobile, Admob, Dodgeball (acquired and then shut down by Google), etc, etc. I've been blessed with a great career, but I only mention it so you all know that I know this industry very well.

I've been through the CPCash course. (Yes, I paid for it too). I can tell you all that everything in that course is just flat wrong. It will only get your account shut down with Admob/Google and you will end up losing whatever money you put into your campaigns. That has been said time and time again, but I cannot stress to you how important it is to pretty much forget whatever you were "taught" in this course.

My question is.... Is there any GOOD course that shows people how to get involved with mobile marketing?

If you have one please share it with me so I can take a look at it. If you want any help with your mobile marketing please feel free to ask or PM. I'll do what I can to help out.

tonyaphx

I purchased cell phone cash I thought the course was good, but hadn't put it to work yet, but after reading about everyone losing there money I think I will pass on this gamble.

84xads

I clicked thru to CPCash after buying a different WSO - the CPCash sales page was very captivating. I did see the fine print of $67 now and $67 per month for life

Thank God for the Warrior Forum - before I went any further in the CPCash sales process I decided to run a search on WF to check the buzz. Based on this fine collection of feedback from fellow Warriors I'm staying away from this product, but the concept of marketing to cell phones still fascinates me.

I have made a promise to myself to perform my due diligence within WF before I purchase any IM product.

Thank you Warriors!

silho

Since I keep running into a ton of people who have had serious issues with CPCash and I keep having to help undo the damage I've decided to help out in a major way. A couple of other people here in the forum have asked me to share my experience in mobile marketing with everyone. I started writing a book about mobile marketing a long time ago and just finished and copyrighted it. Since I would like the feedback on my book I am willing to share it with anyone that wants an advanced copy.

I hate to tell you that's it over 200 pages long (and I still have more information that held back on), but I really put a lot into it. Just PM me and I'll send you a copy of it. Please keep in mind that this book is about 'mobile marketing' and not 'mobile advertising'. There is a major difference. I will create another book/video/content package about mobile advertising in about two months.

In the mean time if anyone has any questions about mobile marketing please feel free to drop me a line.

chaka_zulu

Hi Sihlo,
Please, can i have a copy of your internet marketing book? elnino7890 at romandie dot com

Best regards,
Chaka_zulu

silho

I emailed you the book. If you like it would you please provide me with a testimonial. Please keep in mind that there are over 200 pages in this book and it is designed for the absolute newbie to learn everything about mobile and get up to speed. If you already know the insights about mobile marketing you will find some of this information to be at a beginner's level for you.

astbnboy

let me say that I didnt buy "cell phone cash" but I got the idea to use admob from the advertisment. I put $50 in the account and generated not one sale in over 1000 clicks. Moreover, my affiliate networks did not register anywhere near the traffic admob sent.

I was doing a click to call campaign for commission junction promoting efax. now efax pays 1.00 for any call lasting 12sec, and up to $25 for a call lasting 6 mins. I started the efax program and when I had 50 "click to calls" I went to my CJ dashboard and saw only 8 calls! I stopped admob. at the end of the day I sent 77 calls to efax CJ registered 10 and paid out on not one call! so in 77 calls not one call lasted 12sec and more disturbing is the fact that admob says that I had 77 click to calls and CJ says I had 10!
The next day (working with the same deposit) I set 217 click to calls to cashnet 30 calls registered and none paid. At this point I contacted CJ with my concerns and they have yet to get back to me!
with the remaining $35 I choose a random clickbank product and used bit.ly to shorten and track the clicks admob delivered the clicks (verified by bit.ly) but no sales!

I think it is a matter of finding a product that sells to people that have iphones or that appeals to that demographic.
Keith