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Old 09-15-2008, 09:05 AM   #1
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Has anyone heard about this lead generating product?

There was a webinar last Saturday giving a demo how
the software can return 100's of real time leads in a
matter of seconds. I missed it unfortunately and
wondered if anyone saw this.

The guy behind all this is Brian Koz and was interviewed by
Dr Mike! I tried to google it but nothing shows up
apart from Brian Koz who seems to be a developer.


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Hey:-)

yeah I went to the world Internet summit last week and they gave a 2hr demo of it... Looks like a great piece of software and I reckon it could probably save hours and hours of time for the entrepreneur..

They were selling it for nearly $2,500 for the lifetime rights and upgrades forever...Awesome deal ! I know a hell of a lot of people who actually bought it.

Something slightly spammy about it though I think

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Old 09-16-2008, 01:47 PM   #3
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I don't know but I dont really like the concept.. Its like you are harvesting mail from some site and emailing them.. Its not black hat thou.. mmm
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Thanks for this info.

I didnt like the fact that the only way one would get to know what it was about was to attend the webinar.

Its been sent to me every month and I am not interested in the webinar just the salesletter and the cost but now i know how much roughly and the type of software.

They never replied any of my emails either so i figured it must be quite black hat or close enough.

I can now say I am not interested.
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yeah I went to the world Internet summit last week and they gave a 2hr demo of it... Looks like a great piece of software and I reckon it could probably save hours and hours of time for the entrepreneur..

They were selling it for nearly $2,500 for the lifetime rights and upgrades forever...Awesome deal ! I know a hell of a lot of people who actually bought it.
Just want to clarify something -- it was never sold for $2,500. It was sold in the U.K. for something like 2,300 pounds (not dollars). Some people have gotten confused with that, so I thought I'd take a minute to clear that up.

And yeah, I love the software too, but I could be a bit bias. We're always looking for ways to improve it, add more features, etc.. I've been super busy preparing for our next big update.


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I didnt like the fact that the only way one would get to know what it was about was to attend the webinar.

Its been sent to me every month and I am not interested in the webinar just the salesletter and the cost but now i know how much roughly and the type of software.

They never replied any of my emails either so i figured it must be quite black hat or close enough.
Dr. Mike and I didn't want to sell it from just a sales page -- you can't get the full effect of it that way.

As for your e-mails, who did you e-mail? All e-mails to our support are answered within 24 hours on weekdays, and I also always answer all e-mails sent to me within that time as well. We also have a toll free number for all clients too. If you e-mailed someone promoting it, that's the only thing that we wouldn't have control over.

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They ran the webinar again a couple nights ago. It seems really good. I could see all kinds of ways I could make money with it, but it is selling for $4,000. You can break it down into 3 payments of $1,400, but unless I can set something up first to guarantee I'll have the income sources in place, I wouldn't be able to afford it at this time. My loss.

I have put several feelers out to see if anyone would like to pay me for very targeted fresh leads, but I've had no replies yet.

Still hopeful, though!

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Be careful about violating the TOS of the site where the leads are harvested from (rhymes with gregslist).
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I was on a webinar showing the benefits of Lead Evolution a few weeks ago. I would have bought it....BUT, I just can't see investing 4k for the software when I can't test it out myself.

I'd also say that they've priced to too high. I'd pay maybe $1298 at best, and I don't agree with the annual license either.

It seemed as if they really just wanted to get their own investment out of it.

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Not to rain on anyones parade....but can anyone show me where this is legal under the can-spam act?

Edit: Just got a look on wikipedia...and my worst fears may be confirmed...read and decide for yourselves if this software is legal or not in your area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_address_harvesting

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Not to rain on anyones parade....but can anyone show me where this is legal under the can-spam act?

Edit: Just got a look on wikipedia...and my worst fears may be confirmed...read and decide for yourselves if this software is legal or not in your area:

E-mail address harvesting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hi Floyd,

Actually they claimed that the software finds people that have posted a question on the internet for help with a specific problem (I suppose this would be places like the "ask" forums) and then they target them for follow-up. I'm not sure about how can-spam would judge on this, as these people are looking for, and asking on public forums for answers that the user of this software would be supplying. For one thing, I think the reciptient of the e-mail may not be inclined to report them as readily as off-topic spam.

Good question, though.

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The software finds leads from a variety of sources (always expanding) of people requesting to be contacted for more information. For instance, if a bunch of people say that they want a website made and ask to be contacted for quotes, they're asking you to contact them.

The lead sources are those sites that have people going there asking to be contacted.

The link that was given earlier refers to two things that we don't do -- making up e-mails to e-mail to and scrapping e-mails off of sites where people aren't asking to be contacted.

As for the potential for abuse, sure, there is definitely potential for people to abuse the system (like e-mailing leads that aren't interested in your offer), but we go through great lengths to warn and train clients not to do that. Afterall, when you e-mail people exactly what they're asking for, they walk away happy and you'll walk away with a great chance of making money.

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Old 10-13-2008, 03:09 PM   #12
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I would say it's fair to say that Lead Evolution might not be for everyone...

I know it's for me though!!

Lead Evolution goes out and finds people that ARE ASKING TO BUY SOMETHING and then LETS YOU CONTACT THEM DIRECTLY with an affiliate link or maybe even your own Amazon store.

At $3,500 it's still an amazing purchase.

Imagine approaching an RV dealer and saying "Hey I got this method of
finiding people on the Internet who are ASKING TO BUY RV's within the
last couple days. Would you be interested in giving me 10% of the sale
price if I helped you contact these people?"

Average price of RV = $50,000+ = $5,000 commissions for you

Now think of small airplanes, boats, houses, muscle cars, condos...

Again, not for the brand new rookie but a smart marketer could make
a fortune with Lead Evolution. I'm buying my copy this week after a check
from one of my website flips comes in.
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I saw this software at the IM Seminar i went to in London and it looks amazing but £2k is a lot of money for software
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:23 AM   #14
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The lead sources are those sites that have people going there asking to be contacted.
How easy/hard is it to make a mistake in the results?

Example: Looking for golfers and end up with someone wanting to buy/sell a Volkswagon Golf. (Silly example, but it makes the point.)

Assume various levels of experience and caution in users.

No, I have no interest in the software personally. Just wondering how likely it is to generate spam.

I'd be damned careful (as in, wouldn't do it) about using this on Craigslist. It is, regardless of the targeting or the presumed request for contact, a violation of their terms of use and privacy policy. That creates potential problems you don't want, totally aside from the issue of using someone else's resources in ways they expressly forbid.


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from the demo i saw you chose the category so unless someone post a car in the sports section that is not likely to happen, plus you chose which ones you want to answer it doesn't do it automatically
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I would challenge other warriors to see if you can expand on this idea to make a better software at a lower price.

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How does one become an affiliate for this product?
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Seems like a few of you guys really have it wrong.

Lead evolution is not a mass email harvesting program. It lets you reply to people who are asking specifically for your product or service in an organized trackable way.

If I wanted to buy a new GT mustang and you replied to me with an offer of your GT mustang that you have for sale, that would hardly be against the canned spam act now would it?

The reason people put the requests up in the first place is because they are looking for something they want. Match the right offer to them and they win as well as you.

Don't think too hard about that to find fault with the concept, it's brilliant in it's simplicity.

You choose which requests to reply to, and you sort through requests by category and infividual request, so if you end up spamming someone with an offer they didn't ask for - IT IS ABSOLUTELY YOUR FAULT.

You can refine and refine and refine the leads until they are laser targeted to your exact offer.

As for wanting to buy it from a sales page instead of a webinar, you could read about it until the cows come home but a live demo is ultimately more powerful than a sales page with photoshopped pictures and earnings.

Do no fear the demo.

Ever noticed how much fear there is on the WF these days?

I have a lot of friends who bought this software at a seminar. One who also bought it later and got his money back when he asked but is already thinking of changing his mind since I showed him what it can really do.

So don't be afraid, check it outl, it's not too good to be true.
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Do you know the difference between fear and sensible caution?

For example, Brian has been around for a while. He's a known quantity, which is why I asked him specific questions without leaping to tall conclusions in a single bound.

You've got two posts, both discussing Brian, and no name. You're a meaningless non-entity, as far as I can tell. Ignoring your opinions is not fear. It's a function of basic common sense.

Anyone who's been here for any length of time knows just how quick people are to say that their new whizbang widget is pure as the driven snow, only to find that using it gets their sites shut down. We also know the demos are staged to put a product in its best possible light.

I'm not saying anything one way or the other about Brian's product. I'm saying that only an idiot or a total newbie would use something like this without asking some detailed questions.

If you have a problem with that, too bad. Not our problem.


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Easy there partner. When people get personal like that, generally it's out of fear.

Bit of a no-brainer that the demo is staged to show the product in it's best light, kind of like how a sales page is too huh.

Ask away, nobody is discouraging you from that. Just stay objective and not negative/personal.

It's nice to know that around here people are judged on the number of posts they make, not on whether or not what they say makes any sense.
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Of what?

You seem to have a rather bizarre notion that disagreement equals fear. An unhealthy sort of mindset.

That aside, you don't seem to realize that your posts do not, to me, represent the thoughts of a real human being. There is no name or other recognizable association with any person or business attached to them. You could be anyone, posting for any reason, including just to hear yourself type.

What do you think I'm afraid of? You? The software? What?

It is not possible to get "personal" with a non-entity. As long as you choose to be anonymous, you can reasonably expect to be discounted to some degree.
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When someone has two posts, both relating to a specific individual, that does affect their credibility, yes.

As far as making sense, both of your posts in this thread talk about fear. How does that fit with a rational message concerning the specifics of a piece of software, or the legitimate desire of people in the market for information on issues that can have potentially serious adverse effects on those using it?
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I am being quite objective about the software. I asked specific questions, with no pre-judgement of the program in question.

As far as being "negative" towards an anonymous non-entity, that's my choice. Not yours.


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This software goes against the Terms of Service of Craigslist - and Craig Newmark goes after people who make software like this. I like the idea, but this is a big grey/black-hat software.
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This software goes against the Terms of Service of Craigslist - and Craig Newmark goes after people who make software like this. I like the idea, but this is a big grey/black-hat software.
How do you know it has anything to do with Craigslist?
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Hi All, I'm a returning warrior member from years ago who has spent more time working on marketing offline then online so I'm glad to be back to contribute.

In regards to this LE the software has both pros and cons and a lot depends on your knowledge of lead generation and software development. As a marketer, the approach of selling the software via a their webinars is a good idea (I've seen the webinar)...which could be made better by including a sales letter.

The cons for me are three fold. 1. The software has no demo. I would never buy a piece of software that I could not demo first. That's like buying a car that you never test drove, it's just not smart business. I also know that as a developer, you always make a demo of your software so others can evaluate it. You have to see if it 'fits' you. 2. In all of their marketing information there is what I believe, is poor support. I can't find a number to call and I have e-mailed them for information directly and I have not heard back. An earlier poster said there is 800 support for after you buy...but most people (especially those that know about programming and marketing have pointed questions that need to be answered before they buy. In addition, if you are asking for $4k for your software you should have enough pre-sale support (phone, email, and IM support). I know may people that are selling $40 software programs that have a 800 number for presale questions. I find it unnerving that you would ask and expect people to buy an expensive piece of software and not have adequet support 3. The price is too much for me. I know that cost is relative to use and knowledge, but my knowledge of marketing is such that I'm confident I would reap the same or better results by using that money elsewhere. That's just my $.02!
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Just wanted to drop in to make a few comments.

First, as for our support, I find it odd that a non-customer is making comments about it. Our support is top notch. We not only offer 24/7 e-mail support (which we typically will reply to within 24 hours or less Monday through Friday), we also offer a toll free number that you can call in for additional support. You can even setup a one on one meeting with a support specialist to call you as well.

As for pre-sale questions, you can ask as many pre-sale questions on the webinar as you want. If you have additional questions, we can put you in touch with a representative.

We don't offer demo versions of the software because we feel that the software is too powerful for that and we don't want to get a ton of copies out there. That's a sales decision that Dr. Mike and I made. We do offer a trial period for all clients, though, so they can see first hand if it fits their business.

As for what the software does, it finds leads of people looking to buy your product or service (again, you can also use it as a research tool to find new niches), and allows you to weed through them so you only reply to the most targeted leads of those asking for exactly what you might be selling and wanting to be contacted. We're also working on a ton of new powerful features to make it find virtually any lead online of someone looking to buy a product or service.

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I was impressed with the software when i saw Koz and mike demo it on stage in auckland some months back. I dont know how it sits with the spam issue. As far as i am concerned if somebody posts on a site like gumtree or craigs list asking where they can buy a motorbike and you contact them and tell them that is not spamming. So thats not an issue.

It is very expensive however. Interestingly last week an aquaintance who does not know about IM told me he got a subleasing contract with a hostel and put ads on gumtree craigslist etc for backpackers coming to NZ and made $1500 per week out of it in letting fees.

So the opportunities are there if you know where to look.
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Just wanted to drop in to make a few comments.

First, as for our support, I find it odd that a non-customer is making comments about it. Our support is top notch. We not only offer 24/7 e-mail support (which we typically will reply to within 24 hours or less Monday through Friday), we also offer a toll free number that you can call in for additional support. You can even setup a one on one meeting with a support specialist to call you as well.

As for pre-sale questions, you can ask as many pre-sale questions on the webinar as you want. If you have additional questions, we can put you in touch with a representative.

We don't offer demo versions of the software because we feel that the software is too powerful for that and we don't want to get a ton of copies out there. That's a sales decision that Dr. Mike and I made. We do offer a trial period for all clients, though, so they can see first hand if it fits their business.

As for what the software does, it finds leads of people looking to buy your product or service (again, you can also use it as a research tool to find new niches), and allows you to weed through them so you only reply to the most targeted leads of those asking for exactly what you might be selling and wanting to be contacted. We're also working on a ton of new powerful features to make it find virtually any lead online of someone looking to buy a product or service.

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Hi Brian,
Great product!
Is there any chance of creating an affiliate program to allow me to sell the software in some form or fashion.
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Hello James,

There is an affiliate option for those who've bought the software.

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Brian- are there limits on the number of emails that can be sent out? How do you get around craigslist not limiting you for sending too many emails in a short time frame? I can see where you could come up with a few thousand potential leads- that's alot of emails to send with out getting shut down by craigslist- do you use multiple email addresses, proxies? I am interested in your product but not clear how you get around these issues- hate to spend thousands $$ and find can't use the software in a month due to changes in the way some of the sources of leads allow you to contact them. Thanks in advance for your response.
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I've been using the software. There are limitations from craigslist on how many emails you can send. I've also run into issues with gmail sending out the mail. You can use 20 different email providers, so it's not so bad on that end.

One thing I've been impressed with is their support - it's very good.

There is a learning curve, so I would recommend that they put together some type of mastermind that'll share how to best use it. I guess you might say it's like buying a new computer and knowing nothing about it. THEN, you learn about the control C.

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Jay- thanks for quick response. When you say limitations on craigslist, can you be a bit more specific? Do you actually setup 20 gmail accounts and spread the outgoing email over them? or do you mean there are 20 different email programs supported. How many emails do you send out per day across all the different lead sources? Thanks
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Hello Coach Doug,

Yes, you can have upto 20 gmail accounts. I have had some challenges with craigslist getting the message out. After a few emails from the same email address Craigslist hold the emails for 24 hours. I've sent upto 2000+ in a day, but on a smaller scale - less. I get the same message, large send or small.

The trial and error is the biggest challenge with the software.

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Following on from this thread I see another type of software called THE LEAD PORTAL which John Hostler & Phil Craig of Domains into Dollars are promoting. Steve Iser seems to behind this. I saw a demo of a recorded (from last night) webinar released only today. I must say that the template looks identical to LE version....could be the same!

The licence for this is $1495 which is cheaper than LE

I am based in the UK and am pondering whether to go for it. The demo I thought was quite impressive.

Hope someone else has seen it. If anyone wants to see the recording of the webinar version please PM me. I have no affiliation with this whatsoever.
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Can you send me the Lead Portal Recording?
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Hey, somebody pointed me to this thread, and I just wanted to clarify that this is nothing like our software. Even though the webinar copies parts of our own webinar (many parts word for word), our Lead Evolution software is completely different (even though I've heard from a few that they mistook the look for it).

Lead Evolution is the only software that can search multiple lead sources, as well as the only software that allows you to e-mail dozens to hundreds (even thousands) of leads at once with a click of a button (there's some extremely complex coding to make it imitate a human here). We're also the only ones where you can save leads, see which ones you already e-mailed, which leads are new vs. old, and to top it off, we have full phone and e-mail support, a full development team constantly working on new upgrades (we're working on the ability to search thousands upon thousands of new lead sources at once as well as the ability to pull leads from the search engines, etc.).

Just wanted to clarify that even though the sales webinars looked similar there, Lead Evolution itself does far far more, and the most powerful parts of it are completely unique to itself.

To prove that, we also have several testimonies from people doing very well with it. We've heard from people using Lead Evolution to get their full time income, others making $3k+ in the first week, etc..

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Hey, somebody pointed me to this thread, and I just wanted to clarify that this is nothing like our software. Even though the webinar copies parts of our own webinar (many parts word for word), our Lead Evolution software is completely different (even though I've heard from a few that they mistook the look for it).

Lead Evolution is the only software that can search multiple lead sources, as well as the only software that allows you to e-mail dozens to hundreds (even thousands) of leads at once with a click of a button (there's some extremely complex coding to make it imitate a human here). We're also the only ones where you can save leads, see which ones you already e-mailed, which leads are new vs. old, and to top it off, we have full phone and e-mail support, a full development team constantly working on new upgrades (we're working on the ability to search thousands upon thousands of new lead sources at once as well as the ability to pull leads from the search engines, etc.).

Just wanted to clarify that even though the sales webinars looked similar there, Lead Evolution itself does far far more, and the most powerful parts of it are completely unique to itself.

To prove that, we also have several testimonies from people doing very well with it. We've heard from people using Lead Evolution to get their full time income, others making $3k+ in the first week, etc..

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Hello Brian,

What is the cost of the lifetime subscription to Lead Evolution in USD?
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Hey Greg,

Our support will typically get back to you in 24 hours or less on weekdays, but some more technical questions might take up to 48 hours if they pass it onto a programmer to answer.

I checked into your situation with our head support specialist, and he said that you e-mailed us late in the night on a Thursday and that they wrote back on a Monday. They try to get the majority of questions answered in 24 hours on weekdays, but we do ask you to allow up to two business days, which it was answered in. On another note, our head support guy said that that same week he let go one of our other support workers so he was short-handed for a few days while we were training some other workers to fill in (normally you would have heard back on Friday).

As for your refund request, he stated that you only e-mailed once and that it was yesterday and that he recently replied to you today and that you replied back. On top of that, you were already threatening a chargeback before even giving them a day to respond? I understand how you might be worried, but we always honor our guarantees. On another note, I'm curious when you e-mailed us "3 times" as you just bought the software a few days ago so I don't see where you'd have enough time to e-mail us three times for a refund when your original request for one was a reply to the support question we answered the other day?

As for "basic features," the software as is can work great, but we're always undergoing new updates, additional features, etc.. We have a dedicated programming team constantly working on this. On top of that, we have several additional tools to compliment it in our members area that you can use for free.

Several of our clients have given us great feedback. Just in the past couple weeks, we heard from one guy making close to $4,000 in his first week, another guy making $12,000 in his first week with only four hours of work (this one I'm very excited for because he had an awesome idea that he asked our support for help with and then we found out a couple days later that he made $12,000 profit), and another guy who said Lead Evolution was his full time income.

I'd be happy to personally help you profit with the software if you're interested in giving it a chance (I pm'd you my personal e-mail). Lead Evolution finds leads of buyers, and if you know how to take advantage of that, there's some awesome opportunities out there. I'd be more than happy to show you some of my personal strategies and walk you through our software to help you succeed as well. If not, best of luck with your business and support is happy to take care of any of your additional needs.

Take care,

Brian

P.S. Wizman, there's a $500 savings if you do the full pay. We sometimes offer the lifetime license deal. PM me if you have any questions and I'd be happy to assist you.
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Brian:
Thanks for rectifying the situation. It sounds like at least 1 or 2 of my requests got lost in the shuffle of emails somewhere. I can relate to that. It's frustrating for both you and the customer, I know.

Your quick reply to me personally is impressive.

Let me publicly say that LE quickly processed my refund request graciously and promptly once they tracked me down.

Thanks again,

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[quote=briankoz;197587]Just wanted to drop in to make a few comments.

First, as for our support, I find it odd that a non-customer is making comments about it. Our support is top notch. We not only offer 24/7 e-mail support (which we typically will reply to within 24 hours or less Monday through Friday), we also offer a toll free number that you can call in for additional support. You can even setup a one on one meeting with a support specialist to call you as well.


**Oh no Brian... If by top notch you mean Worlds Worst then yes, it's top notch alright. How do i know this? Unfortunatly i am a customer.

24 hr email support...lol yes you recieve emails asking for help 24 7 of that i am sure.

But as fars as getting back "usually within 24 hours"...LOL you're killin me. Do you ever perform live at the improv?

Brian a 2 hour window 4 days a week is NOT top notch, it's bottom of the barrel. Call during that time and the message tells you to leave a message and then disconnects you. The Frist time i got disconnected thought it was a fluke...
but i've come to learn it's by design .

We don't need to be concerned about the fact that LE does violates the TOS of all of the sources it scrapes (my bad for not checking before i bought). All you need do is tell the affiliate network what you're doing and see what happens. I thought Dr Mike took an oath to do no harm.

I could go on and on...But let me end on a positive note. I think that um well ah ah....i got nothin. Oh wait...If you love bugs you'll love Lead Evolution.
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[quote=briankoz;197587]Just wanted to drop in to make a few comments.

First, as for our support, I find it odd that a non-customer is making comments about it. Our support is top notch. We not only offer 24/7 e-mail support (which we typically will reply to within 24 hours or less Monday through Friday), we also offer a toll free number that you can call in for additional support. You can even setup a one on one meeting with a support specialist to call you as well.


**Oh no Brian... If by top notch you mean Worlds Worst then yes, it's top notch alright. How do i know this? Unfortunatly i am a customer.

24 hr email support...lol yes you recieve emails asking for help 24 7 of that i am sure.

But as fars as getting back "usually within 24 hours"...LOL you're killin me. Do you ever perform live at the improv?

Brian a 2 hour window 4 days a week is NOT top notch, it's bottom of the barrel. Call during that time and the message tells you to leave a message and then disconnects you. The Frist time i got disconnected thought it was a fluke...
but i've come to learn it's by design .

We don't need to be concerned about the fact that LE does violates the TOS of all of the sources it scrapes (my bad for not checking before i bought). All you need do is tell the affiliate network what you're doing and see what happens. I thought Dr Mike took an oath to do no harm.

I could go on and on...But let me end on a positive note. I think that um well ah ah....i got nothin. Oh wait...If you love bugs you'll love Lead Evolution.
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Looked like a good product to have.. it just costs an arm and a leg and may be way above my marketing budget right now.
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Gman, I find it odd that the points you bring up don't seem to be valid at all. It's odd that you come on here with zero posts to say this... In fact, you say you're a customer, yet you clearly haven't even read the information about our support.

We offer e-mail support around the clock. Typically, they'll get back to most questions within 24 hours or less on weekdays, but we always aim for 48 hours or less -- 24 hours is just our goal. On top of that, we offer phone support five days a week (sometimes even seven days). Our "open office hours" are four days a week for three hours at a time, but you can get a one on one phone support virtually anytime you want by appointment only.

If you read our membership site, to schedule an appointment, you need to e-mail the support 48 hours ahead of time that you want to be called so they can schedule you in. They'll then call you and stay on the line with you for as long as you want. During the "open office hours" (which are different), it's on a first come, first serve basis so if you don't get through then, simply e-mail for a one on one appointment.

And from all the internet marketing tools and guides that I know of, very few offer e-mail support, open office hours via phone, one on one phone consultations/support by appointment, and bi-monthly training webinars where you can ask questions live to us.

As far as the other stuff you're talking about, I would caution against talking about stuff that you're not sure on. We hired one of the top internet lawyers to review everything to make sure it was in line. On top of that, LeadEvolution simply finds leads of buyers (or sellers if you target it for that) of products and services and allows you to not only quickly find them, but pick out the best of the best leads easily and contact them with a click of a button. You're doing exactly what the leads want you to do if you weed them down good.

One of our clients told us that he made $12,000 profit in four hours with it (he took advantage of our support to ask some questions and notified us a few days later how well things went for him), whereas others have made thousands the first week, use it for their full time income, etc.

I'd be happy, as well as our full support staff, to personally assist you in making money with it if you want me to show you.

Take care,

Brian
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Hello Brian,
First of all, let me say that I think your Lead Evolution software looks very promising! I do have a few questions:

1. Do you find that it works as well for service industries as it does for products? (we are interested particularly in health insurance sales, recruiting and hiring agents, loan modifications, etc.)

2. I have watched several videos, and it appears to me that basically the owner of the software never has to have contact with the consumer wanting the products. As I understand it, you email them, sending a link to an affilliate program that has the product they are looking for, they purchase the product, you get the commissions.
If this is correct, then if you are dealing with "selling a service" industry, you need to have contact to sell the service... insurance, or whatever... how does this process work?

3. Several Warriors have mentioned the harvesting issue itself. I can see where this should not be considered spam to the consumer, because they have requested the info and you are just responding with a solution to their inquiry...
Do you believe there will be an issue with Craigslist or the other services due to the fact that the software obtains the leads from their sites? I understand this has been a problem in the past.

4. On the issue of the volume of emails, can you share with me if this has been a problem for anyone, or does the software work around the problems that could be caused by this?
Also, could this lead to spamming related problems? Is an email only considered spam, if a consumer complains about it (which they should not do with this), or can the volume of emails that you send out trigger problems?

5. Does your training offer niche ideas as well as learning the software itself? On searching for reviews on Google, I am already finding affiliates offering some good add-on deals for purchasing through them, like some individualized training with the software and/or niche research/info. I know this is money out of your pocket, but do you feel these add-ons are advantageous?

5. You mentioned a lifetime license, will you PM me with the details of this?

Thanks,
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Hey Judy,

Thanks for your questions. I replied to each individual one below. Let me know if you have any more:

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1. Do you find that it works as well for service industries as it does for products? (we are interested particularly in health insurance sales, recruiting and hiring agents, loan modifications, etc.)
Yes, in fact, it works incredibly well for a ton of different services. To be honest, I originally made this for two niches that I had in mind, and one was a service.

It works well for products, services, linking buyers with sellers, job recruitment, niche research, etc..


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2. I have watched several videos, and it appears to me that basically the owner of the software never has to have contact with the consumer wanting the products. As I understand it, you email them, sending a link to an affilliate program that has the product they are looking for, they purchase the product, you get the commissions.
If this is correct, then if you are dealing with "selling a service" industry, you need to have contact to sell the service... insurance, or whatever... how does this process work?
That's not really true -- you can have as much contact as you want with them. In fact, if they provide a phone number, you can even call them up if you wish. But if you want to only use e-mail, they can easily reply to your e-mail and you can start a conversation that way.

Imagine if someone is asking for a service or product and give you their contact details -- you'd probably want to e-mail them and then start up a conversation based on their reply back to you. This is how you can use our software.


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3. Several Warriors have mentioned the harvesting issue itself. I can see where this should not be considered spam to the consumer, because they have requested the info and you are just responding with a solution to their inquiry...
Do you believe there will be an issue with Craigslist or the other services due to the fact that the software obtains the leads from their sites? I understand this has been a problem in the past.
We've never encountered any problems, and we hired a top internet lawyer to make sure everything was in line. We only take leads from sources where people have given out permission to be contacted. As long as you don't abuse it, you're doing exactly what the leads AND the sources want you to do.

We don't use our software to post anything on those sites, so it avoids problems that posters get (perhaps that's what you're thinking of?), which makes it great for our software so you don't have to worry about those issues.


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Also, could this lead to spamming related problems? Is an email only considered spam, if a consumer complains about it (which they should not do with this), or can the volume of emails that you send out trigger problems?
Some customers use the software to e-mail only a handful of HIGHLY targeted leads, whereas others use it to e-mail larger amounts. We teach everyone to only e-mail leads that you can give them exactly what they're asking for, and the more targeted they are, the better.

As far as spamming goes, the leads are asking to be contacted and giving out permission to be contacted with people who have what they want. This is a lot different than e-mailing random e-mail addresses and spamming them with random offers.


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5. Does your training offer niche ideas as well as learning the software itself? On searching for reviews on Google, I am already finding affiliates offering some good add-on deals for purchasing through them, like some individualized training with the software and/or niche research/info. I know this is money out of your pocket, but do you feel these add-ons are advantageous?
We do offer plenty of training for niche ideas on top of giving tips on the software itself. Not only do we do bi-monthly training calls, but you get free one on one coaching via phone if you want (you can schedule appointments to have our support call you) or e-mail us at any time to get personal help. On top of that, we have guides and other bonuses that teach additional methods and ideas for making money. Some of the ideas we've given out has made a lot of people some good money.

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Sure thing. I'll PM you right now. I'll also send you my personal e-mail address in case you have additional questions or would like some extra help. I'm always happy to help our customers succeed.

Take care,

Brian
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Hi Brian,

If the lifetime license is still available, could you PM me about it?
(I apparently can't PM until I've chalked up 15 or so posts!)

Thanks so much.
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hi all - my first post, but been a guest reader for years. (ok i just seen my stats - this is my 3rd post, not first) i think bishop anders built a program that does basically what LE does with the only big difference being that they were promoted differently.
im not saying it for sure, i just 'think' it is very near the same and his released at 97 dollars

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Adam,

Consider this your first reply, please contact me ASAP regarding generating fresh leads. Thanks,

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I have put several feelers out to see if anyone would like to pay me for very targeted fresh leads, but I've had no replies yet.

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Adam,

Please contact me asap, as I am interested in your services regarding generating very targeted fresh leads......

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xoskills -- the program that you're referring to is nothing like LE. In fact, they don't really do any similar at all and are used for completely different things, so I'm not sure why you might think that.

Bishop has a program that lets you post on several forums faster than doing it by hand -- our software has nothing to do with that and focuses on finding leads of buyers and contacts them instantly. Hope that clears it up. There's nothing else out there quite like LE.

Rayt -- I just sent you a pm now.

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The best thing to do is learn how to generate your own quality leads. Do you want to attract tire-kickers or quality leads?
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