Tony X

Loz, the keywords you're targeting aren't buying keywords. That's why it's not converting.

askloz

yes they are, if they wasn't, i wouldn't have 100% clickthrough on them...

the reason why they aint converting is the website they go to are crap in design.

Tony X

Having 100% click thru rate doesn't mean anything. I just checked and the commercial intent for the keywords are horrible. And there isn't any adwords ads for any of the keywords.

Which means, they're not buying keywords.

I mean honestly, who's going to buy something when doing a search for cute lines of friends or clever hilarious pick up lines for girls.

It's cool that you're ranking for those keywords. But they're not buying keywords.

SacredWealth

Has anyone used the 22K secret product that is up sold by Google Sniper? Have us guys got any +ve results from it?

maxi991

Is this method for the short term or long term SEO?

Russell Hall

That's an interesting point you raise Loz. Whereas George suggests quite strongly that his sites tend to do better when they're totally plain vanilla designs (such as Kubrik theme), I tend to agree with you that the better you can make the site look on arrival (without cluttering it up) then the better response you'll get.

I've just started putting a site together in a niche that's highly reliant on images to get the message across. So I've spent a bit of time selecting my images and making it appealing and interesting so the it will exude credibility. It won't win any design award but it will be visually appealing. Imagine a niche for "57 Chevvy" (just an example),... well if your site was called www.57chevvy.com and you knew it got 9,000 searches a month then you'd be inclined to make the page look a little more appealing than one that say predominanlty featured text and sported the big blue Kubrick header or similar.
Cheers
Russ

Amitywill

Loz I've looked through your keywords and taken a look at your site and your keywords
are NOT buying keywords. Believe me 'cute lines of friends' and the other keywords
you seem to be targeting are NOT buying keywords and I'd be very surprised if that site
ever makes you any affiliate commissions.

Tony x was 100% correct in his statement. If you follow his advice you might actually
make some money next time.

Will

PS: You may not have noticed it but 'cute lines of friends' is actually people looking
for quotes from the TV show 'Friends'. Again do you really think they're going to buy
anything??

DA_Hugh

My friend:
im very instresting in GS, but can u give me some advice about the viewpoint as follow? thanks:

hugh

askloz

go to gsniper.com

askloz

That's not the point I am making.

I'm using the exact same theme as he his using for his wedding niche.

The point I'm making is the landing page of the clickbank product.

G Singh

Seriously Loz, do you not sleep? You're like a machine, are you overdosing on Pro-Plus again?

askloz

Yes they are!

I never targeted "cute lines of friends", I know this is not a buy phrase. That's a research phrase. I've been doing PPC long enough to know what research, and buy phrases are.

It just happened that that particular phrase is in my article.

I'm getting more targeted phrase hits to my pages that are buy phrases.

Please, without sounding rude, don't make judgments on what you don't fully know that I'm doing like you just did, making assumptions without the full facts you'll be wrong 100% of the time.

But thanks all the same.

askloz

LOL, I just woke up

Amitywill

I've been doing this a long time too and I can see exactly what you're
doing.

No offence but if you don't want your site and keyword choice to be
under scrutiny then don't post them.

Now I know you think you know everything and aren't going to take
any notice of this post so this is for the other people reading this thread
because I don't want them to waste their time and make the
same mistakes you did. (again no offence)

From what I gather Loz has chosen to target these keywords and
maybe a few more.

hilarious cute pick up lines
clever hilarious pickup lines for girls to use
sweet christmas pick-up lines
some sweet lines for friends
show some cute lines
clever hilarious pickup lines for girls
bee honey pickuplione
sweet cute pick line
romantic pickup lines
hilarious pick up lines
cute pick up lines
funny pick up lines for guys

Now do you think people searching for these keywords are really looking
to buy something? These are just people looking for some free tips.
The whole pick up lines niche is based on people searching for free
information.

Maybe if they were searching a keyword like 'the best pick up lines
ebook' or 'buy pickup lines' they'd be looking to buy something. But
they're not.

People if you really want to make money with this system then you're
going to need to target keywords that are later on in the buying
cycle.

It's all well and good getting a ton of traffic but if your visitors are
all freebie seekers then you're never going to make any money. Target
the keywords where people are intending to buy something and then
you'll see some success.

Will

PS: You're welcome Loz.

pearsonbrown

Thank you Will and Loz for your civility.

People can disagree without hurling insults.

Pearson

askloz

Will, they're not the only KW's I'm targeting. There's two sites like that the one you're looking at is just a test site, it'll have adsense on it soon.

The other site uses phrases in the dating niche, but in the sub-niche of pickup lines that do target those wanting a date, how to pick up girls, etc,

Trust me, I know what I'm doing, I got 1600+ sites out there that kill it big time.

p.s
again, proved that you don't know what I am doing.

If someone asks for help, give advice, if they don't, don't give it.

but again, thx for ur time...

Amitywill

Lol. Oh so there's 2 sites now is there?

Loz I'm only going on what you posted here. I can't talk about
your other site that I didn't even know exists.

The advice I gave in the other post was as I said for the other
people that were reading the information you posted. I felt
someone should point out your mistakes before a ton of newbies
(I hate that word) go out and copy you and waste their time
and money.

Will

PS: I think adsense is the best thing for that site. Probably the
only way it'll make some money.

SacredWealth

I purchased Google Sniper & their up-sell, and I have started a blog to share my experience using Google Sniper. For those interested can check this out here. I will update the blog as and when necessary.

Russell Hall

Oh OK,.. I see. Yes it's a very valid point. Ultimately if the sales page that's intended to convert just doesn't compel people to act then it's more than just a waste of time, it's a waste of profit opportunity.

Having said that, I still feel that the initial site (i.e. landing page/Sniper site) that the viewer lands on plays a significant role in the response of the viewer.
Granted, it appears that George is relying heavily on the anti-sell/ugly site approach in order to have respondents reduce their guard and feel less intimidated by the typical razzle-dazzle of an IM hard-sell. However, sooner or later they'll end up on a more salesy salespage anyway (unless it's one of Paul Myers',.. who's a master of the plain vanilla sales page),.. but I accept the fact that different marketers will have their own methods by which they'll swear,- and it certainly appears to have worked well for young George.

Cheers Loz
Russ

Mitch Miller

Can't help but wonder why a marketer would put up a "test site" targeting keywords that they know are not buying keywords.

TimTyus

google sniper is a awesome product grade A

derh

Hey George,

I love your product but I do not want the $37 a month membership to the club. I have been trying to get it canceled but nobody from your support team will respond. I've left 3 request over the last week and a half!

What's going on here man? What do I need to do to get it canceled?

Thanks
derhul

Amitywill

Go to clickbank and cancel it there.- - ClickBank

Enter in all the details on that page and you'll be able to cancel it after that.

Russell Hall

Hey you guys,

Just a quick post to report some success with a sniper site I set up about 11 days ago.

I registered a .com domain comprising the exact keyword phrase I was targeting. Used a standard WP theme and simply replaced the "hello world" with an original article by me that also contained the main keyword and associated keywords and then added 4 tags.
The only plugins I set up at present were Google XML sitemaps and WP-spamfree (best anti-spam out there by a mile).

Also,.. I've done zero backlinking with this site!

OK,... so I've been busy with other stuff and only checked on the site today,.. for which I've not set up any affiliate links on at all yet.

The result

• For the primary search keyword phrase: Google Page 1 position 3 (19,000 pages)
• For the secondary keyword phrase: Google Page 1, position 6 (15,100 pages)

Now to get stuck into putting up a bit more content and fine tune the tagging and excerpts,.. plus add SEO plugins and the Digg Stumble (yeah... not even done those and already on page 1).

Needless to say,- I'm rapt!

Thanks George,... next time you're in Thailand I'll by you a beer (or two).

Cheers ,
Russ

oscarkool

I started 5 websites 2 weeks ago using only duplicate content from ezinearticles. Why did I do this? Because many people here say duplicate content doesn't matter and I wanted to test this myself to see. I followed everything George said and none of my sites are even in the top 50. To me, this proves that using duplicate content will instantly get your sites placed in the sandbox for however long (I have no idea how long). So, stick to writing unique content! Don't be lazy.

Time to get back to my unique content sites that are ranking well.

Edit: lol I found one of my sites on page 18 for the phrase term. This site is completely optimized for the term as well and only 31,000 competing pages. If I used unique content, it would be 1st page guaranteed.

Andrew Jacobsen

Here is a PM I sent George:

George

I loved the easy to follow way your course was outlined, but I have a few questions.

First I built s a site exactly as described with all of the requirements i.e competition, lsi, domain name everything step by step. I was instantly at number 5 on Google. Now this would happen with such low competition anyway. I have done this with similar sites in the past. My site has now been spidered with the final post and is still at pos.5. I guess my question is what will make it go to number 1 or closer to it now that the site is "complete" like the manual suggests? Where is the magic that happens by setting up a site structure the way you outlined? Like your Wedding Speech site?

Second where is the continued content?

Cheers
Andrew

Anyone else care to chime in?

lonicera

Hi everybody,
I wanted to share my experience with google sniper.
I am a total beginner in affiliate marketing, I've never heard of wordpress before, and I never owned an internet domain.
Google Sniper is a very easy to implement and understand course.
I,ve created 4 sniper sites so far, it took me about one day for each... bear in mind, this game is not for free.
Domain registration and hosting costs are approx 120$ for every site, cause most hosting companies charge a year in advance..

So far all my sites are indexed by Google with different results.
For the main targeted keywords the result is:
1. page, rank 9.
1.page, rank 3
2.page, rank 9
1. page rank 2

So, the system is working, but I haven't made a single sale yet, and there is very low traffic to my sites about 10-20 visits a day..

Where's the problem?
Is it the product choice ?

mrmut

**** UPDATE *****

This is a update from post #132.... and #266

Ok, so i am starting to understand other parts of the puzzle.

Site # 1 ( the first sniper site i put up )

Google page #1 position #1 ( FINALLY on the top BABY!)

I follow step by step of the sniper system BUT I NEED TO ADD SOME BACK LINKS ( I SUBMITTED A SPUN ARTICLE TO 100 SITE ).

I Also submitted a 3 article to ezine article.

The funny thing is that my ezine article is on page 1 position 6.

FINAL RESULTS ...

i control 2 spots on page 1 and the traffic in on a rise. No sale but i think it is a problem of how i have the site setup and where the links are at.

worse case i change it to a adsense site and make a few dollars to pay for my on going learning....

If any one has a question, send me a PM or reply and i will do my best to answer your questions for FREE!!!

Good Luck

cashtech29

Everyone is talking about page ranks and such...
That's great and I still may buy the product.

Out of all the people with HIGH page ranks in this
thread,,,,
Anyone seeing any money yet???

cashtech29

Does the videos show you how to set things up in wordpress?

Thanks for any feedback.
EJ

askloz

Yup, this site will be used as a "what if you dont make any sales, how to convert it to a money site" case study for George...

when I get more time I'll finish the vids... been totally snowed under at the mo, got too much going on right now.


But, once again, thx for your input for others to learn from, even though I didn't need it.

I don't mind ya ripping apart that site i showed ya, that's what it's for

Beldin

For the four sites you have your paid out $480... that doesn't seem right.

askloz

Domain: $6.99 first year at 1and1.com then $8.99 per year thereafter.
Hosting: $3.99 per month = $47.88 per year.
Total: $54.87 first year... $56.87 every year thereafter.

gee, you can make that back in the first month via adsense.

Russell Hall

Good going Mrmut,

I think that from reading of your results and some others who are also reporting Page 1 positions, the thing that is going to make the difference in conversion to sales is a bit of a fine art in itself, such as,- where to put your links, how to display (image, text, adblock? banner?) and how many to use. And from there the money earned will relate to the relevance and quality of the affiliate offer and the landing page to which the viewer is sent.
I'm certianly no expert on this topic so I can't offer any decent stats,... but maybe some more experienced IMers can??

Cheers
Russ

Russell Hall

Hi there,

first of all... congratulations on the ranking results,.. a great start for a newcomer.

But as far as your hosting costs and the way in which you appear to be setting that up,... you're making some major blunders my friend.
Let me help you with that.

Firstly,.. if you're paying $120 in advance for a year of hosting you're paying a bit too much and you DONT need to pay up front. Many hosts will entice you or insist that you pay in advance but it's not necessary.

I've used quite a few but currently I use Hostgator. You can get a "Baby" plan for $6.95 per month and a "Hatchling" plan for $9.95 and the first month you can get for $0.01 (1 cent).

You will usually be given one primary domain name which will act as the main domain name you use with the host via your Cpanel. Then you can add other "ADD-ON" domains that although are technically subdomains as far as the search engines are concerned, the public only view them as ordinary domains. I have about about 15 ADD-ON domains under my main domain and they all work great.

So in summation,.. you register your main domain and point the DNS to the new host. Then you have maindomain.com. From there you can add domainname2.com, domainname3.com etc as add-on domains. Now in your Cpanel Add-on/subdomains folder and to the search engines your add on domains appear like this "domainname2.maindomain.com", but the public only see this "domainname2.com" in their browser and only use "domainname2.com" when they search for you.

The end result is that you can host multiple (unlimited with Hostgator) domains all for $7 to $10 per month and pay only on a monthly basis.

If you have paid out $120 x4 I suggest you shut at least 3 of those accounts down and get your money back.

Hope that helps.
Cheers
Russ

AnilK

That definately helps me. Does doing it this way affect the way the add on domains rank? And for backlinks would you backlink to "domainname2.maindomain.com" or "domainname2.com"?

robyrobertson

I have created my first sniper site and I am now starting to get some traffic. I love the course. I think it has good information, especially for a newbie. I recommend it. I do believe that it takes more content than promoted in the course but it may be because of my inability to pick the right keywords. If you are looking for some good ideas invest in the course. Note: I opted out of the monthly recurring payment for membership because I did not see the value right now.

lonicera

Thank you russ rave,
my hosting company is Dreamhost and taht's what they charge for doman registration and 1-year hosting.

For now I will just wait a little while to see what happens with the sites, traffic is poor, and I have no sales at all.
These are different products, health, forex and make money online niche, all ranked well, but no sales so far..
On one keyword a blog from blogspot.com is outranking me, so I will try to put a free blog in the tattoo niche, wait till it gets indexed to see how something FREE , other then wordpress is ranking...

zhunzi

Can you tell us a little bit about your experience. Not knowing the course and not asking you to give it a away, here are some questions that come to my mind:

1) How long did it take you start to finish to setup your first site from a personal time commitment perspective. I see there is a guy here advertising he can create them for you, but the choice to outsource sometimes depends on how hard it really is. In other words, if it takes you 20-40hrs, then the $150 this guy charges is well spent.

2) What kind of revenue are you seeing off your site? Expenses wise, what kind of expenses are you incurring (hosting, outsourcing, ppc, etc).

Thanks, and glad to hear you like the course! I'm sure George does too.

Russell Hall

No,.. no need to backlink the extended domain name (e.g. "domainname2.maindomain.com"),.. just do the backlinking for "domainname2.com" because you may eventually host it independently later (up to you). Just let Google look after the "under-the-hood" mechanics of how they crawl and view add-on domains.

The way I'm doing it since I discovered this is to build up content for the selected (low competing) keywords for my maindomain.com and then also doing separate backlinking for all the ADD-ON domains. My maindomain is now 2 years old and so now that I'm starting to focus on it (before I just used it as kind of skeleton) I think I can get PR3/4 ranking within the next 12 months perhaps.

Bret Ferguson

I know there have been a few on here asking for a refund or trying to get out of the monthly membership site any luck yet? I've sent a request and haven't heard a thing after a few days when the site says "response in 12-24 hours".

I hope this doesn't become a problem.

fishman61

Clickbank is very good with the refund, don't worry

Beldin

I went through Click Bank and got it taken care of in less than 24 hours. That's your best bet.

askloz

gee, asking for Refunds on George's 19th birthday. poor George

Beldin

For me it was just canceling the monthly payments. Right now I could use that cash in other places.

trishworks4u

Man - I forgot I was signed up for a monthly thing. Need to go figure that out I guess...

Josh Wade

Overall I liked the product and the way that it is structured. I really want to figure out a productive way to outsource all the work it takes to get a sniper site up and runing. I may just be too lazy. But to me that's who you want to look for the lazt guy who figured out the easy way but not by cutting corners.

Anyhoo...I feel like George is honest and will be putting out useful products for years to come.

SteveSch

Hi lonicera,

Dreamhost allows you to do the same thing RussRave mentioned. Host unlimited domains with one account. There is no reason today to pay for separate accounts. When money becomes less of a problem then you can get 30 accounts if you want. There are good reasons to have several accounts, just not when you're worried about money.

Web Hosting by DreamHost Web Hosting: Web Sites, Domain Registration, WordPress, Ruby on Rails, all on Debian Linux!

If you can drop 3 accounts, you would save a bunch of money that you could use in other places.

Steve

Russell Hall

Ha ha ha,.... I'm sure George is enjoying his world tour escapades far to much to be concerned about a few minor refund upsets on his birthday.

To all those that may think that George is ignoring them,.. I think he's just having a blast of a holiday and will surely get onto such items as soon as he can escape from the resort swimming pool and/all the band of gorgeous and willing little honeys that I'm sure he's having to beat off with a big stick!

lonicera

so, George has announced his live webinar on 22nd November.
I think I'll participate, after that I will decide if I cancel my membership or not.