Doiron

I joined the club before it was a forced contiuity program. I think that's a testament to my respect for both the program and George. I like the Google Sniper system and I think it can be a real money-maker - I also have the feeling that George is an upright fellow.

But...I have to say that I'm disappointed in the lack of updating on the membership site.

I don't believe I'm getting my money's worth at this time. Perhaps that will change before my next payment is due.

Chris Hubbard

I'm an affiliate marketing junkie so I read George's product. I actually really liked it. I thought the system was easy to implement (which is important) and had just enough advanced stuff to help new marketers with their conversions.

I can't comment on the membership area as I haven't even looked at it...but the system itself is solid (in my opinion). It's a great bare bones system that can make you some money and then be built upon later.

G Singh

Has anyone tried the hop ad builders for their sniper sites?

lonicera

THE TIMING OF THE next WEBINAR... It's at 1 AM Central European time, George is obviously focusing on Australia and USA costumers. No way I'm going to participate in that, enough for me to quit my subscription.

jasonpeng

It is a little hard to say.
But I believe George will make this better.
because i like George.

bscbscbsc

I still wait to hear of the money that anyone is making, just facts on how many sales
Thanks

PanamaMark

Not a bad program but most of the info is available free elsewhere - the 30 day challenge gives a ton more info and it's free. Also, make sure you really want it as he doesnt honour his money back guarantee and you'll get no response from his support desk. Plus watch the fine print - after he gets your initial $ he'll start hitting you for $37 a month. Even after you've tried to cancel. My vote - pass and watch out for George he's making enemies fast and is likely to crash and burn.

donaldg

I don't think your refund comment is on point because you whenever you want to cancel or get your money back for your initial purchase. You access your clickbank receipt and your money is refunded to your account by clickbank and not by George. The monthly subscription can be cancelled by using your most recent clickbank receipt - there is a link in the receipt that allows you to cancel your subscription at anytime.

I don't have a problem with people making comments like this one but they should try to make accurate comments especially when it comes to clickbank

PanamaMark

Thanks Donald. I actually bought it through PayPal so I managed to cancel the subscription and then emailed clickbank for refunds of both the program and subscription fee. I guess my biggest beef is that I had to learn this here on the forum while George's support desk remain silent and non-responsive. Not a very good sign. Thanks again!

Lokki08

Okay guys here's the current situation that I really think about GB's Google Sniper. I was one of the first people who bough Google Sniper. It was wonderful product at the beginning. Why? Because that idea was not over exatured. It had potential.

When that product has been sold now it is more difficult to find keywords that does not has GS sites on it. For example I have found over 30 low competition keywords with high search volume but you need to work lots about them in order to get your website in #1 Google page.

The thing is also that this is benefiting most George Brown. Why? Here's the reason. First he test this unique idea and get all benefit from it and this is justice because that guy found that idea and started to benefit from it. Then he establish good blog empire and making him over $15 000/month. This will reduce success probablity for many users that are creating same kind of blogs. How much it will reduce, that's different thing.

Still there's possibility to success but it is more difficult than before.

Bret Ferguson

I don't believe PanamaMarks comment was about clickbank rather than a Customer Service issue by George Brown/Google Sniper. PanamaMark is right about not getting a reply. If George is going to stay in business he will have to work on that or he will crash and burn.

rcjcal09

I was a complete newbie, but his step-by-step approach to teaching the process of setting up a simple site to earn money on autopilot was very helpful. Before, I was just hung up on all the systems out there, but George's system was very simple and taught actionable steps rather than ideas. I would recommend it for younger affiliate marketers, which will help you jump start your career.

mkayius

Nobody from the latest buyers can confirm that they started using the system and actually made some money?

Jeremy Kelsall

I'm not promoting this product as an affiliate so take this for what it's worth...

People that are making money with it are not going to seek this thread out to comment on it...

You'll find 3 kinds of people in these types of threads.

1. Those with some sort of interest in the product - Either they are promoting it or they are friends of Georges.

2. People that are not making any money

3. Fresh people that want to share their experience

The ones that have had success are hammering out more sites, not looking for a place to post about it.

Jeremy

maab

Is this George's site Groom Wedding Speech
if so he didn't create this himself.


It's supposed to be 3,000 searches per month and no more than 10,000
competing websites, which I find not any easy task.

Chris Koltai

I respectfully disagree, Jeremy. I quit my job using the Google Sniper system. It forms the bulk of my current income, and I've modified it to tackle tougher keywords with higher traffic as well. For full disclosure's sake, yes, I am promoting it, but I've never so much as referenced my site let alone linked to it. As a side note, it's the only internet marketing product I'm promoting, and it's likely to stay that way until I compile enough quality information to release a product of my own.

I come to this forum to refresh my brain, see what others are working on, and help people out. I could hammer out sites all day and rapidly expand my income, sure, but 1 or 2 new sites a week is more than enough to keep the money flowing in.

Obviously, I can't speak for anyone else in the thread, but IMO the allegation that no one making money with the system would seek out this thread to comment on it is just as baseless as the oft-repeated suggestion that no one making money off of a system would sell it as a WSO.

Jeremy Kelsall

Well.....

There are not many comments in this thread from people making money, considering the number of comments here.

I didn't say that noone was making money, because I know they are...

My point is, you're not going to see 100's of people flock to this thread to say they are making money....which we havn't...unless I missed something.

Chris Koltai

Fair enough. Just pointing out that there are exceptions to the rule

Jeremy Kelsall

Agreed

I just wanted to clarify, because I thought that you might have interpreted my comment to mean that people were not making money with Sniper...I know several people who are...but, they are not posting here.

lonicera

Hi,
I've bought gsniper a month ago.
I have now 4 sniper sites up and ranking, and I've made JUST 1 SALE for some hemorrhoid cure system.
The sites have very low traffic.

About Georges sites that are 1st on google... did anyone notice how many backlinks they have? although George claims that the sites rank well without them, all of his sites that we know about have at least 300 backlinks.

www.groomweddingspeech.org is his site an has 396 backlinks on google.

the site mentioned above is somebodys copy/paste of george's work..
too bad to see that there is so many copying around..
for example.. I've put up a site promoting Google terminator... and a week later I find two sites with my exact content on them.. they didn't even bother to change the text just a little bit..

MadMax8779

Hey, whatsup all, Quick question about ranking for your site. I set-up my first sniper site last night and had it indexed and ranked on page #1 position 8. Im not satisfied with that position and would like to hit top 5. I created the site to a "T" like the manual said. I created the site up till part 3, waited for it to get indexed, and then i went ahead and put in my youtube video along with the 'useful article' and a Load of backlinking. Im wondering if the amount of backlinking i did for the site actually hurt its rank. Only becuase i did so much so quickly. And also is this the Final Rank i should expect to see for the site?? Its only 1 day old and i kno most sites take a couple days to index and rank, so should i wait and see if it moves up? Thanks

P.S. I also forgot to mention that the competition at the top looks like something that my site should be able to outrank, I.E forums and such

Chris Koltai

Have you checked the number of backlinks for the sites you're competing against in Yahoo site explorer? Are they optimized for the keywords? Even forum posts can be optimized (albeit unintentionally) if the keyword is in the thread title and content.

Your final rank is wherever you are willing to let it settle. If your competition is weak enough, building links should get you to the top 3, which from my experience are the only positions that make any money worth discussing.

And no, building backlinks wouldn't have hurt your ranking. The more likely scenario is that Google hasn't counted those backlinks yet.

Not sure how long you've been doing IM for, but starting with a brand new system and getting your first sale in a month is pretty good. As far as the traffic, you'll get better at selecting keywords and you'll start ranking higher naturally.

I've been doing Google Sniper sites since George first put it out as a WSO, and my success rate at the start was terrible. Of my first 10 sites, only 4 made any money. Now, I can't even remember the last time I built a site and didn't have it land on page 1. Patience and the willingness to learn from your mistakes are absolutely key in this business.

As far as the backlinking, sometimes you get 1st spot naturally, other times you have to push for it if you want it. Another thing to consider is that if you can get first spot with zero links, all it takes is the same level of optimization plus a backlink or two, and then another sniper's got your spot. I build a ton of backlinks just because I don't want to lose my position (and one of my sources of income) to another internet marketer. It's a lot easier once you have money to funnel into outsourcers or automation software.

No worries man. Just didn't want people to get the wrong idea is all.

zhunzi

I had bought a product a long time ago on clickbank (amazon hunter) which I didn't like and returned. After 5 days of emailing, I never could get a response from the refunds department of amazon hunter, so I eventually tracked down that clickbank did the charge and got them to issue a refund, which was very fast (hours!).

My advice, if you ever buy anything on clickbank and need a refund, contact clickbank

gmr324

Hi Chris,

Thanks for sharing your sniper wisdom. I was just curious about your rate of link building with the sniper sites. In my experience with other sites, link building can be a double edge sword. It seems if the linking rate and anchor text don't appear natural to Google, your site's ranking can be dropped. So, what rate of backlinking have you used to avoid this pitfall.

I agree that merely achieving page one isn't adequate. You really need one of the top 3 positions.

Thanks

George

helenaUK

That says it all! I like your summing up.

Chris Koltai

Heh. This is the same theory I operate my business on. Google Sniper is great and all, and it lives up to its promise of being fast, easy, and low maintenance, but if you take what you learn from it and expand on its weaker areas, you'll get more out of it than the average user.

If you want to rise to the top 1% of people who are using any given system, all you have to do is add more power to it. Whether that's more content, better linkbuilding, creating a mailing list, etc.

If the system markets itself by saying "YOU CAN MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO QUIT YOUR JOB WITHOUT DOING TYPICAL INTERNET MARKETING TASKS X, Y, AND Z!" and you follow the system to the letter, and add in the things that you "don't have to do" you'll find that you end up surpassing the majority of your competitors by a long shot.

Chris Koltai

This isn't particularly difficult to do once you have 1 or 2 sites actually making money. With a solution like Unique Article Wizard, Article Marketing Automation, or Backlink Solutions, 1 article written and spun can generate you a couple of links per day for a month or so without issue.

As far as mass production goes, it's a case of diminishing returns. Keyword research and site production are time consuming, but building backlinks using automated solutions or via outsourcing is not. Why put out a site a day that makes a sale a week sitting at 6th place when I can put out 1 site a week that can net me a sale every day or so once it hits 1st or 2nd place?

It's simple. I look at the "bare minimum" sniper sites as beacons. I love it when I see a site like that in the top 10 because I know that I can take that spot from them at will. At the very least, you should be building backlinks to your proven earners, otherwise your income is going to stay stable at best due to other people overtaking your niches while you create new sites.

Deep S Walia

Hi Guys,

I brought GS about 2 weeks ago now, I now have to two sites up and running as of mid last week. I have followed making them to letter T as is in the Manual but I am finding that a) I don't seem to ranking therefor I can not add my affiliate links and my final post!

I have socially book marked the site, I am not sure if I have done something wrong or have missed something out..

Does anyone have any advice or pointers pls?

Thanks in advance...

Bhaskar Jain

Google Sniper is very good. I've a few sites ranking
in Google... haven't made any sales, but I'm quite
positive I would, in a few days.

Russell Hall

If you're confident that you've followed to the letter "T" then its probably best just to leave them alone a while and be patient. With the first 2 sites I set up, I put a lot of energy into the first one and put up about 12 posts plus Youtube and I had my keyword in the URL but was getting NOTHING,.. couldn't even find my articles on Google so I assumed I'd been sandboxed and just left it. Then all of a sudden a couple weeks later I'm getting visitors to the site and new comments too. It's a really tough niche and to be honest I didnt research the niche enough but at least the site shows potential.
The 2nd site I hardly did any work. Researched the keyword (only 19,000 competing pages and about 4,000 searches per month). I bought a new .com name with my keyword in it and then I put up one post (no links), and bookmarked with Delicious. 11 days later my site is Google page 1 (position 3) for main keyword (19,000 competing pages) and Page 1 position 6 for 2nd keyword (15,100 pages).

For me,.. that's all the proof I need. But it is hard being patient initially. Just keep moving with it,.. you will create some winners.

Cheers,
Russ

lonicera

What exactly do you mean by "making the sites to letter T" ???


It means that you've followed the plan exactly - Pearson

Deep S Walia

Hi Russ,

Thanks for that, looks like i'll have to sit on my hands and wait!!

I want to continue making sites but i dont want to make errors if I have done making these last two! (..if that makes sense!)

rachelle123

Just purchased this tonight. Do we not have access to a forum? and I was under the impression that we would receive an ebook with the videos? These two are no where to be found in the members area??

anyone??

mrmut

rachellle

on top of the videos you should see the downlink to the manual.

*****

russrav

i have a quick question. when you mean that you are targeting 2 keyword what are you doing exactly.. for axample if you have keyword #1. you get the domain name and all articles with keyword one in it. is that correct? if itis where do you stick in keyword two... another domain name ????

just abit confuse on that...

thanks for the help..

Russell Hall

Surething,..happy to elucidate on that for you.
For the domain and keyword phrase (contains 2 keywords) that is my main target I scored page 1 position 3. Then I took another secondary keyword phrase (containing 4 keywords) and inserted it into the text of the post/article that appears as the homepage anchor (in fact, it's the only article on the entire site) I then took keyword phrase #1 and KW phrase#2 and created tags for them that tie into the one article,.. and to my pleasant surprise I have been able to get Page 1 for both keyword phrases.

Later I will create a seperate post (actually several) centered entirely around KW phrase #2 just to try to get it up into the top 3 positions of page 1 as I believe that anything lower than say position4 is a virtual waste of time with Keywords that have low search volume.

All in all, I intend to target at least 4 (maybe 6) keyword phrases that I know get a good volume of searches and then create pages and posts around those phrases and making sure to add relevant tags using the exact same keyword phrases. In a low competition area I think this is a sure fire way to get Google Page 1 top3 for all keyword phrases and that way you can be sure of getting some click through action.

Hope that clarifies it for you.

Cheers,
Russ
PS... another definite winner is to include images in your posts and to name them like this "mydomain.com-keywordphrase#1.jpg" etc,.. that will add to the juice.

mrmut

Thanks Russ

i like the image idea.

thank you again.

Liane Fitzpatrick

Thanks for the info regarding Google Sniper! I welcome any info anyone has as I just bought it and I am feeling overwhlemed!

Joe Walter

It's a good system, and I learnt alot from George especially the LSI keywords and stuff. But I have had some really bad issues with this system.

The main problem I am having is that almost every single one of my sniper sites is getting sandboxed. I have followed georges examples exactly but for some reason google keeps sandboxing them.

Also, I haven't got to #1 yet for any of my sites. I have been on page 1 several times but then float off up to page 8 or completely off the search engine. Unfortunately these issues have happened to 9 out of 10 of my sites that I have made. It might just be, being bad at this. But I don't know.

Also what I found really frustrating was that when you find a product to promote with your sniper site, their is already about 30 other sniper sites ahead of you, not forgetting the authority sites hogging the top spots.

Now George says go for average searches (around 50 a day) and under 7,000 competing websites. But I have found that trying to find this is almost impossible. Once again this might just be me.

I'm sure there is alot of people out there who have made some decent cash out of this system (probably because they outsourced most of it) but I have not made a single $ yet and its been 2 weeks, and 10 websites made full of content.

It's a shame because I really enjoyed learning the course and was certain that I would make some money from this.

I will try for another 2 weeks, and give it my all hopefully I should have around 40 sites up. But if all this effort was for nothing then this method isn't for me.

Joe

Christian Sawyer

This happens...I make a lot of these "sniper" blogs as George describes them, nothing new really. About 1/4 of the ones I setup either get sandboxed or rank poorly.

Also, 2 weeks does not seem like a long enough time to judge the traffic you are getting...how much traffic are you actually getting? Hops?

Just stick with it and try to create as many blogs as you can, the system does work, but every system has it's weaknesses.

-Christian

SimonHarrison

Joe, what have you done as regards:

Social bookmarking
Web 2.0
Basic backlinking..

I know George doesn't cover these in his version of niche blogs but if you're not doing any of the above I suggest you do, it's often the difference between position 1 and position 10.

It's quite common to end up high initally, then Google has a sit down , looks at a gazillion factors and a week later bungs you where it fancies.

It's also not uncommon to be sandboxed or hit the secondary listings although the latter is highly unlikely with a new site.

My advice is if you have some sites with ok positions, go out and try the following, you will have to do as much or as little of the following as it takes to achieve your required position, this by the way presumes you have made catchy and clickable TITLE tags and META descriptions, no point being no 1 , if the surfer's bored to tears by your site description, they will shoot to the more catchy no 2 listing.

Anyway..

Slap a short article together, 300 words will suffice. Ensure your primary keyword/phrase is in the title, wang it on ezinearticles initially. Link back to your money site using the keyword in the anchor text .

You should read up on the best way to maximise your article submissions, but the basics here are that we want a decent ink back to your sniper site from a highly trusted source which Google values and we want it with your chosen keyphrase in the anchor text.

Now go bookmark the ezine article, do about 5 bookmarks , don't go crazy with bookmarking overnight or indeed any back linking stratagy. Slap half your bookmarks with your primary keyphrase in the anchor text and the other half variations of your primary keyphrase this will suffice.

(Yes correct bookmark the eza article, most people don't bother with this, but it takes a few minutes and can really help boost your article , while the primary focus is link juice, no harm in grabbing some extra traffic from it as well.)

Now bookmark your actual money site, and bookmark all the pages on it that have relevent content, (not the about page, contact us etc. )

Again don't make all the anchor text links identical, have a play with some variations on your primary title, if you run out of options use some LSI , just make sure that LSI is included on your money site as well.

See what happens to your position..

If no joy, submit the article to a half dozen other article sites and rise repeat, if you want to be a little sneaky and the sites allow it , have one link back to your original eza article and the other to your money site, linking back to your eza article will give it even more link juice and a good position in the SERPS, hell you may even get lucky and push it into a "most viewed" situation in which case you can get a ton of traffic.

BTW WF Member Jeremy Kelsall has a very good WSO on how to maximise ezinearticle submission, go hunt it down, his stuff is always a bit raw but unlike a lot of over priced junk, it's real world stuff that actually represents the reality of what does need to be done to push ahead of the pack.

Once you've done that, go wang up a couple of 2.0's, usual culprits, just ensure they are do-follow ones, more and more are removing do-follow, you can use Firefox plugins (do a search) to see which sites offer do-follow, now link those to your money site.

You can also play with finding good authority sites/blogs and forums to backlink to your money site from. There's to much information required to explain exactly how to go about that but the trick is to see how your sites are doing and push only as hard as you need to to shunt the competition the hell out the way, you don't get paid for overtime in this gig, don't go balls to the wall crazy with a million backlinks when your competition isn't that strong, just do what you need to do , no more.

I do like George's system in the sense he put together a lot of known information into one very simple cohesive package that a lot of newbies get a lot of benefit from, but I do think it falls down when suggesting all you need to do is wang a blog up with no support for it and watch the money come in.

Unless your niche is "blue poodles who enjoy wearing thongs on thanksgiving day in a leap year" , you really are going to have to spend some time on backlinking to your site to beat the competition away and I can guarantee you're going to have to maintain at least a modicum of maintenance to keep it there.

Once you start bringing in some revenue from the sites, grab automation s/w to deal with bookmarking, 2.0 creation, article spinning etc.

Hope that helps.

Joe Walter

Thanks ever so much Simon, I really appreciate that

Now onto the backlinking that you mentioned, I am using Angelas backlinks for all my sites. I booked marked each site with socialmarker, and pinged them at pingomatic. The next stage I was thinking about doing was writing a few articles, bookmarking them and even creating squidoo lenses for my sites.

Now, an option for me would be to outsource the stuff I don't like, but I would prefer just doing them myself. Which is probably what I'm going to have to do now that they seem my only option to give my hard work a chance of surviving.

One really big problem with me though is that I dont have a passion for writing, I never have. Thats one of the reasons why Georges product snatched my eye, because I thought (and I'm sure alot of other people thought) that there was no need in any of the things that I would rather stay away from.

I purchased GoogleSniper thinking that I would learn how to build a site in less than 2 hours, get it indexed in the search engines quickly and then watch the money rolling in but it isn't as simple as that, which I should have realised before.

I know I seem like I'm trying to say GoogleSniper is bad, but really its not I enjoyed learning it, and George has done a really good job with this product. It's just, like every other product out there... there's almost always a catch.

Take the Clickbank Code for example - Nobody knew you were going to have to spend $500 on adwords before they bought it, did they?

Exactly, but if he told us that before, then I'm sure not as many people would have bought it. I don't blame George or any of the marketers out there for not mentioning these things, because if I was in their shoes I'd do exactly the same thing.

Anyhow, thanks again Simon for your extremely generous advice. I don't think I have ever had such a long advice post ( lol ).

I'll check out the WSO later on when I get back

Chris Nesmith

My advice to you would be look at the top 10 sites ranking for a keyword.

Read them, study them.

It's all there in the report.

lonicera

I've tried several times to post an article about money making products on ezine articles, every time it gets refused for being advertisement.

You can improve the page ranking in Google by deactivating All in one SEO and installing Platinum Seo plugin instead. It has more SEO options.
I also make descriptions for categories and tags that include the main keyword.
A good tool for bookmarking every post you make is Onlywire, but if you like to use it free, you will have to put a button at the end of each of your posts.
But that's not so bad, since you're able to bookmark every post you make with one click to at least 20 bookmarking sites.
So, if your front page has 4 posts, and you bookmark them all, you already have 80 backlinks to your site..

Draz

Hey all, long-time lurker, first-time poster! :P

I'm on the fence about buying GS - from what I've read/heard from people who have it, it sounds like worth the cost, but the issue is this:

I'm already running sites with Adsense that do pretty well. It wouldn't be all that hard to 'convert' them so to speak, but would that summon the wrath of the almighty G?
I don't live in the US so I don't think the new FTC regulations apply to me per se, but that'd be a mild comfort if Google decides one day to close up my account.

So, I would really like to keep my nose clean when it comes to Google - I've read enough horror stories about people losing their accounts so I'm not willing to do anything that's even remotely risky.

Basically, my question without long rambling is, Is having Adsense/CB on your site an either/or deal, or is it OK to have them both running at the same time on the type of sites GSniper is about?

Deep S Walia

Hi Guys,

Had Google Sniper for a couple weeks and managed to get a couple sites up and going! One of them is has done well in the sense that; it was made last week and by Tuesday it was position 8 on Pg 1 of google, I did what the GS manual said and I was really happy with my result. However, it has now drop to position 11 (Page 2)...i'm not to sure why! Can any one advise pls?

Maybe I did too many kw'ds or something, how can I push it back up!??

The other one, has not even ranked yet (although indexed!!)

Steadyon

Is Google Sniper still available?

Any discounts for forum members etc... ?

rachelle123

Quick question... Just bought this a few days ago and just doing some kw research.. When it comes to goarticles, ezinearticles, you tube websites being on the first page for a certain kw.. Are these sites hard to out beat?

I am also finding a lot of results on the first page that have squidoo lens ranking hirer than a wikipedia site? I was under the impression that wiki would outbeat a squidoo lens?

Christian Sawyer

When you see articles, it usually is a great sign!

I would still check and see how many backlinks the article has because some marketers throw hundreds at it and it ranks very well.

Regarding the Wikipedia page; this is usually the case, but you will rarely see some pages outrank a weak Wiki page.

-Christian

rachelle123

Thanks for the info.. But i was under the impression that ezine would be hard to beat because they are a pr 6?

am i wrong?

Christian Sawyer

An ezine with a few backlinks will be easily beaten by a blog that is updated once a month. However your blog will need backlinks as well.

An ezine with tons of backlinks thrown at it, will be very hard to beat.

Page rank means nothing, I know some other warriors would disagree, but there are a lot of warriors who would also agree as well.

Good luck!

-Christian