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Old 10-03-2009, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default Membership site Clickbank or Rapid Action Profits Member Plus

I am in the process of setting up a membership site and am looking for an alternative to Clickbank.

I want to do a $1 trail for a week then full price, and have an affiliate program.

so far i have seen Rapid Action Profits Member Plus , is this any good, any other services i could use, 1 shopping cart ??

any help would be appreciated.

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Old 10-03-2009, 10:27 AM   #2
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Hi,

The full package you are asking about will work for what you are needing, with some nice variations.

Any specific questions you need answered? Ask away.

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will one shopping cart work ??

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Hi Sarah,

How are you?

I own RAP, and even created the graphics for Sid. If you want to know more about it, beside Sid Dave and John are the most knowledable.

I'm now contemplating RAP for my product currently in preluanch, due to the trial, I'd be interested in knowing more about the plugin member plus

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Sarah - You asked about 1shoppingcart.com? Yes, it will do that... I'm a 1shoppingcart.com user and a RAP user.

I've been a 1shoppingcart.com user for 5 years. But I'm moving everything - oncluding my lists - out of 1shoppingcart.com because they've made some changes lately that, while they look good, really hamper the way I do business.

Plus, they just started charging $35 / month for unlimited support. They're support was great. But when they charge to help people use the product, that shows an unfortunate disrespect their customers.

Sid Hale (developer of RAP) is the epitome of dedicated customer support. And he's also set the bar for software documentation. A monkey can install RAP if he follow Sid's instructions

No offense to monkies...(At least, I didn't say so easy a caveman could do it...)

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Way to go David, Got the monkeys and the cavemen.

Darren, the PayPal add on that comes with the members add on will do trial, installment and recurring billing. Pretty much covers all the payment schemes.

Any other questions?

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interested in knowing more about the plugin member plus
First off, GREAT job on the graphics Darren!
The anniversary ones really did portray a sense of celebration!

As for the Member Plus add-on, it comes with the Paypal subscription
add-on which is where the trial functionality (with Paypal) comes into
use. The Member Plus part protects your "member areas", while the
subscription add-on takes care of making sure that your payments
are received as you have them set up, be it for a free trial, or otherwise.

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Thanks for all your help.

With Rapid Action Profits how are refunds catered for if affiliates get paid straight away ?

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...Sid Hale (developer of RAP) is the epitome of dedicated customer support. And he's also set the bar for software documentation. A monkey can install RAP if he follow Sid's instructions

No offense to monkies...(At least, I didn't say so easy a caveman could do it...)

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I'm another RAP owner. I'm also, when it comes to scripts, PHP and the like, extremely inept. I make monkeys—and cavemen—appear skilled.

Fortunately for me and others with the same lack of skill I evidence Sid does provide fantastic service. Part of that service is a content filled and responsive continual Skype chat operated by Sid and Richard Wing.

John Burnette (globalpro)and ECS Dave, along with several other expert "rappers" appear frequently and are always willing to answer questions.

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With Rapid Action Profits how are refunds catered for if affiliates get paid straight away ?

Hey Sarah,
A lot of times the customer will contact the affiliate when a refund is needed, since thats who the paypal payment went to.

however when that doesn't happen, a quick e-mail to the affiliate usually does the trick. I've been using RAP on several sites for over a year now and have yet to have a problem with a customer not getting a refund or with an affiliate giving me any trouble about it.

Also, there is a plug-in for RAP called the "mass pay" plug in that lets you take all the payments yourself and then pay out your affiliates once a month. It does it all automatically.
I don't use it but if I was selling a product that had a lot of affiliate sales and a high refund percentage I'd probably consider it.

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There are numerous plugins for RAP now, including a just announced one for Kunaki.

One more thing: RAP and the various addons are one-time expenses. You don't have a monthly expense, and you can use them on all the domains that you own.

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With Rapid Action Profits how are refunds catered for if affiliates get paid straight away ?
Hi Sarah,

I am also using RAP! I just fall in love with it every time I use it!

Anyway, back to your question. Yes, usually, affiliates will have to give the refund whenever the customer ask for it! If not, an email to that affiliate will do the trick! For me, I had not have any incident to which affiliates not issue the refund if asked!

And after affiliate issued the refund, RAP will automatically recalculate the payout again!

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But if i am giving out 50% commissions i will have to give a refund and the affiliate will have to give a refund ?

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No Sarah,

Instead of paying 50% of each sale to the affiliate, RAP alternates payments between the affiliate's Paypal account and your own. If you pay 75%, the affiliate will be paid for 3 of every 4 sales he brings to your site.

The big draw is that for affiliates, they get paid instantly, directly by those customers.

So either you give the customer a refund, or the affiliate gives the customer the refund.

When a customer asks your affiliate for a refund, they should honor the refund request (so they don't create problems for themselves/their Paypal account).

Occasionally, a customer who paid your affiliate will come to you for a refund. You can simply forward that request to the affiliate who got the sale, and they should make the refund. Some RAP merchants don't bother, and simply refund the customer themselves.

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would this still work the same with a membership site ?

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...and it works well.

Myself and others have been successfully using RAP for over 2 years now, and customers have been using the Membership Plus add on for about 10 months.

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Sarah,

Since RAP has come out, I haven't heard of the refund being a problem, if the affiliate gets the sale. I think just about all of them are very happy to see the instant payments in their PayPal account and wouldn't want to jeopardize it.

At the very worst, if you have to honor the refund, because the affiliate won't, you can alwats use the 'ban affiliate' function and you won't have to deal with them again.

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How's RAP working for you? I'm just beginning to investigate all its capabilities and look to fellow warriors for their impressions.

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When using stuff like RAP or some $7 script we think it's better to use it on really low cost offers that are non-refundable and say this upfront IF we allow affiliates.

It shouldn't be a problem anyway because refund requests are either low or non-existent but you just never know what might happen, mainly what an affiliate does, and dealing with refunds in that case is a PITA.

We would if we have to but it's better to try and avoid it.

RAP has worked OK but some people experience problems that we don't and it got to be kind of a pain.
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RAP has worked OK but some people experience problems that we don't and it got to be kind of a pain.
How so, Sancho?

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