Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers?

rhythm · 10-08-2009, 06:01 PM

First, HUGE acknowledgement of the Warrior Forum, all who created and contribute to it. Best IM resource in the universe…thanks guys!

Now, like others who made a decision to learn Internet Mktg. and hopefully become successful enough at it to replace their current job, I spent many hours looking for a comprehensive course that would teach me everything I needed to know to succeed.

Warriors here know that there are literally hundreds of such courses offered in WSOs and sales letters, many that promise their pdfs & videos will teach you EVERYTHING “step-by-step”, nothing left out, and have you making 50K a month in no time flat. The less “hypey” ones (thank God for these responsible people) merely promise to teach you everything in their particular niche & method, not everything in IM, and make more sensible claims of an extra 2K to 10K a month after steadfastly applying their instructions several hours every day for at least 6-12 months.

I looked over several programs – Nitro Blueprint, Ewen Chia’s Secret Affiliate, Ed Dale’s 30-Day Challenge, Rich Jerk, Niche Profit Classroom, Affilorama, My First Affiliate Dollar, and tutorials form Brad Callen, Frank Kern, Joel Comm, Chris Rempel, and others – each meritorious and useful in their own way. I eventually chose Jeremy Kelsall’s Coaching and Internet Marketer’s Bootcamp, which I found a great place to start, with his 30-day, over-his-shoulder videos showing how he starts a new niche and Clickbank account from scratch and takes it to real profitability by applying specific tasks a few hours each day. I followed his instructions and am beginning to see results after just a few months.

But I feel for the newbies inundated with hyped-up choices, trying to find the one or two that will really teach them what they need and, with their own dedicated work & testing of course, truly turn them into successful IM marketers. At up to $300 purchase price or $97/mo. subscription for some of these programs, no newbie can afford more than one or two.

It occurred to me that, within this fabulous IM Product Review & Ratings section, although there have been lots of great, level-headed pro-and-con reviews of many of these courses, there’s been little charting of their track records – of exactly which ones are turning out successful marketers. Obviously this can be difficult to measure, because so many people buy one of these programs and then do nothing, don’t do the necessary work.

But of the students who actually follow all the instructions and devote themselves dedicatedly to the daily hours of working it, wouldn’t it be revealing, perhaps more revealing then pro/con reviews, to chart which courses were actually producing winners? I know that if I had seen such a track record showing which 3-5 of the hundreds of available programs were honestly producing the most success stories (the REAL success percentages, not just the 5 or 10 testimonials on their sales pages), it would have saved me so many hours and concerns, and I'd love to try to implement that here.

Thoughts, suggestions?

sanjid112 · 10-08-2009, 07:56 PM

Actually, everything can make you successful if you do it with your heart and you are focusing on it. Try to point up some good stuff from the program you followed, and start to work on it.

The main problem is what you already write,"Many people just bought it or affiliate to something, than do nothing." Or they are too scare to start playing the game.

If you want to start making money, do it. My effort is by learning by doing. The more you experienced in it, the more you will do it in effective way. Just, focusing on what you do, and start making money.

My suggestion, find something that more closely to your interest and start working on it. If you like what you do, you will do it with a happy heart.

Og Mandino · 10-09-2009, 04:02 AM

Quote:

I know that if I had seen such a track record showing which 3-5 of the hundreds of available programs were honestly producing the most success stories

Hi rhythm,

I have myself also roaming around, finding best way, support, and good mentor for me to start.

Can you suggest which are those 3? And why do you choose these 3?

About Jeremy Kelsall's "Internet Marketers Bootcamp"--is it still open?
This one caught me in attention. Good to know there is video mentoring.
Can it be implementing without Don & Jeremy around?
Is there any support? Outsource maybe--to answer question?
It's about one year from its beginning.

Don & Jeremy kind of busy with their current project.

What do you think about Bryan Zimmerman's offer?

Pure Regards,
Og Mandino

erwindegrave · 10-09-2009, 05:15 AM

I agree! If a person will put their hearts in what they are doing, they could be successful. If I will recommend a product, "affiliatenaire" by jimmy brown is good.
He teaches simply tactics but proven money making system.

marioilking · 10-09-2009, 05:33 AM

Hi Rhythm,

I have followed Jimmy Brown's Affiliatenaire 52-week course. It is a step by step course, showing you the way in very simple terms and with various examples. There are plenty of videos to help you along and their support line is exceptional. I suggest you give it a try. Search for 'affiliate-marketing-in-easy-steps' in my blog to learn more.

rhythm · 10-09-2009, 09:23 PM

For Og: Internet Marketers Bootcamp is still available to anyone signed up for Don & Jeremy's Coaching, go here: Coaching with Don and Jeremy
Yes you can learn a lot from the videos without their support. Plus you can contact them with questions if you need more explanation.
Don't know about Bryan's stuff, although I think he was first a student of Don & Jeremy, and implemented what they taught him, so just go right to the source.

rhythm · 10-09-2009, 09:38 PM

Just to keep this thread on course, although I appreciate the replies about "you can succeed at any one of the courses if you put your heart into it" and that kind of attitudinal, stick-to-it stuff, my purpose in this thread was to get very specific - which courses are graduating the most winners? Which courses are producing the best track record of verifiable successful Int. Marketers? If anyone knows that, or how to chart that, that's what I'm looking for here, not just another pep talk or recommendation for a potentially good course (like the Affilatenaire that two of you mentioned.)
erwindegrave & marioilking: don't just tell me that it's another great step-by-step "proven" money-making system. Tell me: are you making a living income from it? Are many others? Does that course graduate a high percentage of real success stories? If you can't answer that, and are just plugging the course, you're doing exactly what I said I wanted to avoid in my opening post...plugging one more course and giving a pro/con review, but with no cold hard numbers to let us know what the real track record is for this course. Don't want that, please stay on message.

Matt Wolfe · 10-09-2009, 09:52 PM

I personally signed up for the coaching of Alex Jeffreys. I know that it is closed off now and I'm not sure when it is re-opening. When I started the coaching, I was already making about $200 per month online. After about 6 weeks of the coaching I had increased the amount of money that I was making to about $2,000 per month using his methods. I have quit my job and I am focusing full time on the methods that I have learned in the coaching.

I know of several other students who are making full time incomes from what they have learned from Alex's coaching. Search Dean Holland in the Warrior Forum. He took this coaching program knowing absolutely nothing about IM. By the time he finished he quit his job and now makes tons of money coaching others...

Being in the coaching myself, I communicate with tons of other students. I know for a fact that several students have turned part-time IM careers in to full time careers. However, I also know of a lot more that just never followed through and are in the same place that they were before they started. That has nothing to do with what was taught, it has to do with the level of action that they took.

I'm not promoting his coaching and I don't have an affiliate link. I don't even think he is still offering coaching. I just know that what he teaches works...

Matt

Og Mandino · 10-11-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhythm

For Og: Internet Marketers Bootcamp is still available to anyone signed up for Don & Jeremy's Coaching, go here: Coaching with Don and Jeremy
Yes you can learn a lot from the videos without their support. Plus you can contact them with questions if you need more explanation.
Don't know about Bryan's stuff, although I think he was first a student of Don & Jeremy, and implemented what they taught him, so just go right to the source.

Thank you for referring the link.

Too bad they're not accepting student for now.

Looking for other reliable mentor.

*

Hmm...Alex Jeffrey. Dean Holland.

jacksonlin · 10-12-2009, 03:04 AM

Affiloblueprint from Affilorama set me up.

It's only a one off fee of $197 and the support is FANTASTIC.

You learn how to build "old school" sites like these: How To Attract Women

Nothing special, but it works.

=]

J

ralphalt · 10-12-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Og Mandino

Thank you for referring the link.

Too bad they're not accepting student for now.

Looking for other reliable mentor.

*

Hmm...Alex Jeffrey. Dean Holland.

Og--I have been taking Dean Holland's Starting with Marketing Academy and have found it a great value for the money. Excellent instruction on using Web 2.0 technologies to drive traffic and build your opt-in list. 5 stars.
Best,
Ralph

rhythm · 10-12-2009, 08:45 PM

Og: Jeremy Kelsall in indeed accepting new students, for his new program NIche Diagram, which is a more comprehensive version of the one i did. It's just up now, here's the link to the WSO:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...00-easily.html

For the rest of you, you're STILL just recommending individual programs instead of directly responding to the point I posted here, track records, how many truly successful marketers came out of each course, not just "I tried this one and liked it", real proof, REAL TRACK RECORDS.

If you can't provide that, and just want to toot your favorite course's horn, don't do it here, or I will take this thread down and start over.

With all the courses out there, all promising the moon, I would think you would want this reality check as much as I do...come on guys!

Og Mandino · 10-12-2009, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhythm

Og: Jeremy Kelsall in indeed accepting new students, for his new program NIche Diagram, which is a more comprehensive version of the one i did. It's just up now, here's the link to the WSO:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...00-easily.html

For the rest of you, you're STILL just recommending individual programs instead of directly responding to the point I posted here, track records, how many truly successful marketers came out of each course, not just "I tried this one and liked it", real proof, REAL TRACK RECORDS.

If you can't provide that, and just want to toot your favorite course's horn, don't do it here, or I will take this thread down and start over.

With all the courses out there, all promising the moon, I would think you would want this reality check as much as I do...come on guys!

Thanks. I have been there.

*

You have helped me. Now is time I help you

To deliver your message (which I noticed, hope is right) let me make it more precise.
(I've learned a little bit of Visual Communication Design, how to tell "what to say")

This thread is made in need of IM/Affiliate Courses those Really Produce Successful IMers references.

The keywords are:
`REAL track records
`REAL proofs
`Big Picture of the story (perhaps I may add this)

In other words SCAM-FREE.

I want to know it also, to be honest.
But afraid to offend how manners usually work in WF.
(And because my English is not good. lol

)

*

Thanks for Jackson and Ralph for the references.
Really appreciate it ^^

MoneyPlus · 10-15-2009, 08:41 AM

I've bought many IM products in all different price ranges.
But I'd have to say my all time favorite is the 30 Day Challenge (which is free).
Follow the day-to-day instruction and you will find success.

10-08-2009, 06:01 PM	#1
rhythm Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? First, HUGE acknowledgement of the Warrior Forum, all who created and contribute to it. Best IM resource in the universe…thanks guys! Now, like others who made a decision to learn Internet Mktg. and hopefully become successful enough at it to replace their current job, I spent many hours looking for a comprehensive course that would teach me everything I needed to know to succeed. Warriors here know that there are literally hundreds of such courses offered in WSOs and sales letters, many that promise their pdfs & videos will teach you EVERYTHING “step-by-step”, nothing left out, and have you making 50K a month in no time flat. The less “hypey” ones (thank God for these responsible people) merely promise to teach you everything in their particular niche & method, not everything in IM, and make more sensible claims of an extra 2K to 10K a month after steadfastly applying their instructions several hours every day for at least 6-12 months. I looked over several programs – Nitro Blueprint, Ewen Chia’s Secret Affiliate, Ed Dale’s 30-Day Challenge, Rich Jerk, Niche Profit Classroom, Affilorama, My First Affiliate Dollar, and tutorials form Brad Callen, Frank Kern, Joel Comm, Chris Rempel, and others – each meritorious and useful in their own way. I eventually chose Jeremy Kelsall’s Coaching and Internet Marketer’s Bootcamp, which I found a great place to start, with his 30-day, over-his-shoulder videos showing how he starts a new niche and Clickbank account from scratch and takes it to real profitability by applying specific tasks a few hours each day. I followed his instructions and am beginning to see results after just a few months. But I feel for the newbies inundated with hyped-up choices, trying to find the one or two that will really teach them what they need and, with their own dedicated work & testing of course, truly turn them into successful IM marketers. At up to $300 purchase price or $97/mo. subscription for some of these programs, no newbie can afford more than one or two. It occurred to me that, within this fabulous IM Product Review & Ratings section, although there have been lots of great, level-headed pro-and-con reviews of many of these courses, there’s been little charting of their track records – of exactly which ones are turning out successful marketers. Obviously this can be difficult to measure, because so many people buy one of these programs and then do nothing, don’t do the necessary work. But of the students who actually follow all the instructions and devote themselves dedicatedly to the daily hours of working it, wouldn’t it be revealing, perhaps more revealing then pro/con reviews, to chart which courses were actually producing winners? I know that if I had seen such a track record showing which 3-5 of the hundreds of available programs were honestly producing the most success stories (the REAL success percentages, not just the 5 or 10 testimonials on their sales pages), it would have saved me so many hours and concerns, and I'd love to try to implement that here. Thoughts, suggestions?

10-08-2009, 07:56 PM	#2
sanjid112 Malik War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 222 Thanks: 7 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? Actually, everything can make you successful if you do it with your heart and you are focusing on it. Try to point up some good stuff from the program you followed, and start to work on it. The main problem is what you already write,"Many people just bought it or affiliate to something, than do nothing." Or they are too scare to start playing the game. If you want to start making money, do it. My effort is by learning by doing. The more you experienced in it, the more you will do it in effective way. Just, focusing on what you do, and start making money. My suggestion, find something that more closely to your interest and start working on it. If you like what you do, you will do it with a happy heart.
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10-09-2009, 05:15 AM	#4
erwindegrave Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? I agree! If a person will put their hearts in what they are doing, they could be successful. If I will recommend a product, "affiliatenaire" by jimmy brown is good. He teaches simply tactics but proven money making system.
	Erwin de Grave Success Coach & Internet Marketer www.MassiveAffiliateIncome.com

10-09-2009, 05:33 AM	#5
marioilking Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Malta Posts: 17 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? Hi Rhythm, I have followed Jimmy Brown's Affiliatenaire 52-week course. It is a step by step course, showing you the way in very simple terms and with various examples. There are plenty of videos to help you along and their support line is exceptional. I suggest you give it a try. Search for 'affiliate-marketing-in-easy-steps' in my blog to learn more.
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10-09-2009, 09:23 PM	#6
rhythm Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? For Og: Internet Marketers Bootcamp is still available to anyone signed up for Don & Jeremy's Coaching, go here: Coaching with Don and Jeremy Yes you can learn a lot from the videos without their support. Plus you can contact them with questions if you need more explanation. Don't know about Bryan's stuff, although I think he was first a student of Don & Jeremy, and implemented what they taught him, so just go right to the source.

10-09-2009, 09:38 PM	#7
rhythm Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? Just to keep this thread on course, although I appreciate the replies about "you can succeed at any one of the courses if you put your heart into it" and that kind of attitudinal, stick-to-it stuff, my purpose in this thread was to get very specific - which courses are graduating the most winners? Which courses are producing the best track record of verifiable successful Int. Marketers? If anyone knows that, or how to chart that, that's what I'm looking for here, not just another pep talk or recommendation for a potentially good course (like the Affilatenaire that two of you mentioned.) erwindegrave & marioilking: don't just tell me that it's another great step-by-step "proven" money-making system. Tell me: are you making a living income from it? Are many others? Does that course graduate a high percentage of real success stories? If you can't answer that, and are just plugging the course, you're doing exactly what I said I wanted to avoid in my opening post...plugging one more course and giving a pro/con review, but with no cold hard numbers to let us know what the real track record is for this course. Don't want that, please stay on message.

10-09-2009, 09:52 PM	#8
Matt Wolfe Pro-Warrior in Training War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 146 Thanks: 32 Thanked 87 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? I personally signed up for the coaching of Alex Jeffreys. I know that it is closed off now and I'm not sure when it is re-opening. When I started the coaching, I was already making about $200 per month online. After about 6 weeks of the coaching I had increased the amount of money that I was making to about $2,000 per month using his methods. I have quit my job and I am focusing full time on the methods that I have learned in the coaching. I know of several other students who are making full time incomes from what they have learned from Alex's coaching. Search Dean Holland in the Warrior Forum. He took this coaching program knowing absolutely nothing about IM. By the time he finished he quit his job and now makes tons of money coaching others... Being in the coaching myself, I communicate with tons of other students. I know for a fact that several students have turned part-time IM careers in to full time careers. However, I also know of a lot more that just never followed through and are in the same place that they were before they started. That has nothing to do with what was taught, it has to do with the level of action that they took. I'm not promoting his coaching and I don't have an affiliate link. I don't even think he is still offering coaching. I just know that what he teaches works... Matt
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10-12-2009, 03:04 AM	#10
jacksonlin Up & Coming Internet Guru War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 185 Thanks: 4 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? Affiloblueprint from Affilorama set me up. It's only a one off fee of $197 and the support is FANTASTIC. You learn how to build "old school" sites like these: How To Attract Women Nothing special, but it works. =] J
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10-12-2009, 08:45 PM	#12
rhythm Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Which IM/Affiliate Courses Really Produce Successful IMers? Og: Jeremy Kelsall in indeed accepting new students, for his new program NIche Diagram, which is a more comprehensive version of the one i did. It's just up now, here's the link to the WSO: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...00-easily.html For the rest of you, you're STILL just recommending individual programs instead of directly responding to the point I posted here, track records, how many truly successful marketers came out of each course, not just "I tried this one and liked it", real proof, REAL TRACK RECORDS. If you can't provide that, and just want to toot your favorite course's horn, don't do it here, or I will take this thread down and start over. With all the courses out there, all promising the moon, I would think you would want this reality check as much as I do...come on guys!

10-15-2009, 08:41 AM	#14
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