WP Mage Review Thread

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by Freeon

Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???

Unless you implement significant measures, you need the plugins to keep the site running, so selling a site would for the most part require the person you are selling to having a copy of Mage. (since you cant give them your license) makes sense?

Originally Posted by Freeon

And do you have to keep paying monthly after creating your site?
That would be my second reason...

No way. You pay once for the software and you are finished, done. You can install unlimited domains on unlimited servers as long as they are all owned by you.

The software is yours %100.

the monthly fee is for a basic service and trial, that you get %100 included when you get the full system

Basicly, Once you invest in the Full Master Mage, you never pay anything to us ever again and have lifetime usage.



hope that answers your questions

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by Freeon

Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
That would be my first reason not to try it.

Hi Freeon,

I'm glad Greg has joined our thread and is giving the *official* answer to a lot of the questions. (Thank you, Greg!)

From a user standpoint, I totally understand your feelings. When I first tried Greg's domain tool that he gave away to war room members my intention was to buy $5 expired domains, build sites and sell them. Greg said (in a thread on that forum) that I would make more money putting affiliate links such as the ePN on the sites.

Well, I had tried affiliate marketing and never really made any money but his post inspired me to give it a focused try. I didn't know he was going to offer the mage program so I purchased another program and built a couple of ebay stores. Unfortunately, I didn't make any money ... not one cent with the. It's not a bad product ... it looks nice and is easy to use ... but it didn't generate any income for me.

I was on the verge of selling the sites when Greg asked me to beta test his mage system. What did I have to lose? I asked myself. I quickly put up a few new sites on expired domains and watched in amazement as I started getting sales. What a difference! The other sites built with the other program just sat there looking pretty but the new sites started making money right out of the box (so to speak). I quickly realized I could make a lot more money keeping the sites than selling them.

So, while I certainly understand your statement I can say with absolute assurance ... you will make more money keeping the sites using the mage system. I love to create sites ... I do it for people as part of my business model. I may never stop doing that but one thing I love more than anything is to see that residual income increase on a weekly basis. Now, that's just plain fun.

Linda

[Paul1256]

I have a question. Would it be better to get accepted into EPN and then buy the Mage system?

Paul

[AmyKay]

I don't think so. It's better to just get your sites going and getting indexed, so you can start making money as soon as possible. For starters, you could just put a few posts up (like 100-200). Then, when you are accepted, add thousands more with epn links!

Lots of people are just monetizing with adsense and other methods while they wait.

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by Paul1256

I have a question. Would it be better to get accepted into EPN and then buy the Mage system?

Paul

People do well with EPN, but EPN is not necessary for success with the Mage either.

Once you get into the powers of the massive site and content generation you can start to get creative and monetize in hundreds of different ways.

[gallus]

Am I correct in assuming that you could add extra affiliate links and banner ads and CPA offers, over and above the built in Mage ones, and will it work with premium templates such as Thesis.

[twinmom]

Originally Posted by gallus

Am I correct in assuming that you could add extra affiliate links and banner ads and CPA offers, over and above the built in Mage ones, and will it work with premium templates such as Thesis.

Hi Gallus
Yes, you can add other offers as well. You can customize templates for your posts to include other banners, etc or you can use the WhyDoWork plugin (my preferred method).

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by gallus

Am I correct in assuming that you could add extra affiliate links and banner ads and CPA offers, over and above the built in Mage ones, and will it work with premium templates such as Thesis.

Hi Gallus,

Tracy is correct ... you can add anything you want to the wordpress site built with mage just as you can any other wordpress site. While mage does not come with these "built in" you are free to utilize any and all so long as the plugin doesn't conflict with mage.

I do not use mage with a premium template ... just the freebies that I customize ... so I can't answer your specific question about Thesis. However, if it they haven't modified the core -- i.e., you can use other plugins ... it should work as the mage is powered by plugins.

I do know Greg is working on adding even more auto-monitization features that will be available very soon and, in a word ... rocks.

Greg will probably pop in and give you more details about your question and about the upgrades.

Linda

[mtucker]

Hello Mage members, I was part of a downsizing this past Friday. I have 60 days to find another job internally at my company or I can leave the company for good. If I leave the company, I"ll get a severance package that will be about 8 months of living expenses. If I decide to leave my company and go into IM fulltime, what is a realistic expectation of income I could make in 8 months if I dedicate 40 hours a week to using the Mage system? I know it's impossible to give me an actual number but best guest estimation would be greatly appreciated!!

[thinredline]

So Greg, the CPMage and Master Mage are no longer available, right? Is Adept Mage Toolkit is a less sophisticated solution?

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by mtucker

Hello Mage members, I was part of a downsizing this past Friday. I have 60 days to find another job internally at my company or I can leave the company for good. If I leave the company, I"ll get a severance package that will be about 8 months of living expenses. If I decide to leave my company and go into IM fulltime, what is a realistic expectation of income I could make in 8 months if I dedicate 40 hours a week to using the Mage system? I know it's impossible to give me an actual number but best guest estimation would be greatly appreciated!!

The short answer is that nothing can promise success, however the Mage is going to be as close as you can possibly actually having that push button system. It was built to earn for me, not to be marketed. selling it was an afterthought. I have sent you a PM and we can discuss further offline as needed

Originally Posted by thinredline

So Greg, the CPMage and Master Mage are no longer available, right? Is Adept Mage Toolkit is a less sophisticated solution?

Master Mage will be available again shortly. But for now get your feet wet with Adept to get an idea for the landscape

[mtucker]

Replied to your PM and would like to continue dialog. Thanks :-)

[thinredline]

Greg, can you PM me your demo site? I guess I will test the water with Adept Mage.

[seminyha]

Hi all.
I understand the many postings will be listed all over the search engines.
My question is how well are these posting ranking.
They have to be up there to be seen right?

[AmyKay]

Yes, several rank well because they are such longtail, specific keywords. I'm shocked at how specific the longtails are that people are using to find my sites. Of course, many will not rank at all. That's what makes it a numbers game.

[PanamaMark]

Greg et al,

WP Mage looks very exciting however I'm a bit jaded and have a few questions. First of all I've tried the auto blogging thing with a few different programs and haven't seen any discussion as to the differences.

1. How is this different from BANS (build a niche store) which had a nice run for a few months but then Google picked up the footprint and shut those sites down (de-indexed) pretty fast. What makes WP mage different?

2. Next came Niche Devil - Vic was very cautious in only releasing this for a few hours but again Google picked it up and shut it down in a matter of weeks. How do we know Google isn't going to pick up on this and shut it down quickly too?

3. We know Google will already be aware of the program and already has I'm sure a squad of techies ripping it apart and figuring out how to tag it and shut all of our sites down. What is your strategy for protecting us from that?

4. I noticed one poster to this thread that said he wasn't even doing market or kw research - he's just building 100 sites a day. That's sure to raise red flags and bring all of us down.

I could go on but you get the idea - Google has unlimited resources and people dedicated to shutting down programs like WP Mage before they even get started. I just don't want to put effort and $$$ into this next greatest thing only to be disappointed. Thanks for any clarification - confidence you can provide.

[RCrooke]

Linda and others,

Thanks for the positive feedback on Greg's product. I just saw a sales video today and its very interesting. I like the business model as I am a recent googlesniper member.

Thanks..

Richard

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by PanamaMark

Greg et al,

WP Mage looks very exciting however I'm a bit jaded and have a few questions. First of all I've tried the auto blogging thing with a few different programs and haven't seen any discussion as to the differences.

1. How is this different from BANS (build a niche store) which had a nice run for a few months but then Google picked up the footprint and shut those sites down (de-indexed) pretty fast. What makes WP mage different?

2. Next came Niche Devil - Vic was very cautious in only releasing this for a few hours but again Google picked it up and shut it down in a matter of weeks. How do we know Google isn't going to pick up on this and shut it down quickly too?

3. We know Google will already be aware of the program and already has I'm sure a squad of techies ripping it apart and figuring out how to tag it and shut all of our sites down. What is your strategy for protecting us from that?

4. I noticed one poster to this thread that said he wasn't even doing market or kw research - he's just building 100 sites a day. That's sure to raise red flags and bring all of us down.

I could go on but you get the idea - Google has unlimited resources and people dedicated to shutting down programs like WP Mage before they even get started. I just don't want to put effort and $$$ into this next greatest thing only to be disappointed. Thanks for any clarification - confidence you can provide.

I will answer your question in aggregate.

This is the most powerful thing to ever hit the market by a longshot.

It is like the iPhone. Nothing even comes close.
Its not only user friendly, but its modular and template driven

Meaning that 100 people can use it and each will be completely different way of putting up their sites.

Meaning that its powers rest it in abilities to function through templates and create massive content easily. The user then decides how to arrange display and what content to use, thus avoiding the issue of footprinting.

If a user uses the Mage well, it is impossible to make a footprint to other users because it rests on their own tweaks, variables and keywords.

After you get your hands on it and had a good dig, you will see what I mean.

Hope that answers your questions.

[PanamaMark]

Greg,

Awesome response time! Thanks for being so quick. If this is an indication of your customer service you're going to be a great guy to do business with!

You did answer one of my questions regarding 'foot print'. Not sure if you or anyone else for that matter is familiar with Niche Devil (very similar program to WP Mage) or BANS. It would be nice to have someone comment on comparisons and my other points. Anyone else care to comment - compare?

Thanks again Greg for your lightning fast response!

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by PanamaMark

Greg,

Awesome response time! Thanks for being so quick. If this is an indication of your customer service you're going to be a great guy to do business with!

You did answer one of my questions regarding 'foot print'. Not sure if you or anyone else for that matter is familiar with Niche Devil (very similar program to WP Mage) or BANS. It would be nice to have someone comment on comparisons and my other points. Anyone else care to comment - compare?

Thanks again Greg for your lightning fast response!

BANS doesnt even come close to this. Not even in the same league.
BANS pulls eBay Feeds based on Category. MAGE can do that if you want but it is like 1 of hundreds of different options depending on how you arrange your templates.

I have never used niche devil so cannot comment

[cgallagher93]

Hi Greg,

I've got a few questions I'd like to ask as I'm rather concerned as to whether WP Mage has any substance for near $800. From what I've seen in the launch video, this is pretty much going out and creating duplicate content (bar changing a few words by multi-translation). I really think George has somewhat reduced his credibility by promoting such a product and at almost eight times the price of the Google Sniper course itself is just ridiculous!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not usually one who criticizes stuff before it stands the test of time, but I've seen nothing in the video interview with you and George to suggest that this thing does anything other than simply changing a few words around from an Ezine Article or Yahoo Answers thread. I mean, how on earth can a piece of software possibly re-write an entire ten posts for you in approximately 2-3 seconds without it being almost plagiarised?

I might just be being picky here, but another thing is why are you living in Thailand? I'm not sure if FTC laws apply over there but something just smells very fishy to me about this and was wondering if you're running from someone such as them...

Finally, what happens if multiple users are in the same niche and select the same root keywords? Is there anything within WP Mage that prevents it from churning out fifty versions of the same sites?

Thanks,

Connor

[askloz]

I'll give ya a few more reasons not to.

1) the guy has absolutely no idea how search engines work
2) the content is duplicate content
3) those pages will end up disappearing from the search engine and rankings will not become stable.
4) the guy has no clue how to do seo
5) it's obviously rushed software / launch, you even see errors in the posts via that magesniper video - Sorry George, not trying to put you down mate, but you have made a BIG mistake promoting that guy's software... And for the price, what a rip off! Tried to help ya mate before stepping into that big hole of a mistake. oh well

I'll be having mine completed soon, and you will see the big difference in how it does things, the right way, from a person who excels in SEO.

Originally Posted by Freeon

Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
That would be my first reason not to try it.
And do you have to keep paying monthly after creating your site?
That would be my second reason...
I'm not trying to bash the thread but...
I like to own what I create.
I hate a monkey on my back feeling.
IMHO

[cgallagher93]

Loz,

I think you should be careful mate. I understand you may have tried similar software programs in the past but I think you should give Greg a chance to respond to be fair. I'd tend to agree with you that this thing is complete rubbish, but many may see it that you're simply trying to promote your own software. It would be a shame if you got removed because of stuff like that.

Just a suggestion!

Connor

Originally Posted by askloz

I'll give ya a few more reasons not to.

1) the guy has absolutely no idea how search engines work
2) the content is duplicate content
3) those pages will end up disappearing from the search engine and rankings will not become stable.
4) the guy has no clue how to do seo
5) it's obviously rushed software / launch, you even see errors in the posts via that magesniper video - Sorry George, not trying to put you down mate, but you have made a BIG mistake promoting that guy's software... And for the price, what a rip off!

I'll be having mine completed soon, and you will see the big difference in how it does things, the right way, from a person who excels in SEO.

[askloz]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

This is the most powerful thing to ever hit the market by a longshot.

If you think that, you're living in a world of your own.

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

It is like the iPhone. Nothing even comes close.

ROTFLMAO... again, you're dreaming. If I had to pay $797 over yours or the iphone, i'd get the iphone, well, i have 3 of them..

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

Meaning that 100 people can use it and each will be completely different way of putting up their sites.

There is only so much content you can create based on the same keywords, your software is gonna spread more duplicate content out there. You have taken no respect in regard to Google's terms, your site is just a mass duplicate content creator...

like i said in George's thread, im not knocking your idea, it's not just very well thought out.

[cgallagher93]

I don't know much about Google Adwords but if that "quality score" malarkey has anything to do with duplicate content then I suspect a few people could have their accounts closed?

How about "Google Mage Slap 1"?

[askloz]

I don't need to be careful...

the video was enough proof in it self...

AND, I personally went over to google translater, after watching his video 5, at how he translates the text to 2 other or more languages then back to english, have you tried it?

did you see that it only changed a few words?

COUGH: Duplicate Content


I have my own personal software that I have been using now for over 2 years that does a MUCH better job than his software, and far much more.

I have over 1600 of my own sites out there that using my script, churning out over 100,000 posts a day to my network of sites, with over 12 million pages indexed, knocking out over 10 million unique visitors to my sites.

So I think I know what I am talking about.

Im not trying to promote my own software, besides, over 14,000 people already are waiting for my software to launch, so I dont need to promote here or anywhere else. and I can tell ya now, it wont be going for $797. nowhere close.

Originally Posted by cgallagher93

Loz,

I think you should be careful mate. I understand you may have tried similar software programs in the past but I think you should give Greg a chance to respond to be fair. I'd tend to agree with you that this thing is complete rubbish, but many may see it that you're simply trying to promote your own software. It would be a shame if you got removed because of stuff like that.

Just a suggestion!

Connor

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by cowboyrob

I believe it's $400 off that price. I'm looking at the final page right before I click pay right now, and with the warrior coupon, it's $597.00.

I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.

What Warrior coupon ?

[cgallagher93]

Loz,

I wasn't suggesting for one minute that you're trying to promote your software here, I was just saying that others (Greg in particular) might get pretty offended and see it as that way as it is a reviews thread to be fair.

On the other hand, if your software is *that* good, I'll certainly be interested. Could you please PM a link to get on the waiting list buddy?

Cheers

[askloz]

Gotcha,

I consider George to be a good ole chap, and feel offended that he's been mislead. But I can see the over all "WOW, this looks good" that George had running through his mind. I tried to help the guy. But I guess you can't lead a horse water, they'll merry along their own path and drink the water when they want.

oh hum, kinda sucks, as soon as he builds a good name for himself, it's gonna be tarnished 10 times as quick.

Originally Posted by cgallagher93

Loz,

I wasn't suggesting for one minute that you're trying to promote your software here, I was just saying that others (Greg in particular) might get pretty offended and see it as that way as it is a reviews thread to be fair.

On the other hand, if your software is *that* good, I'll certainly be interested. Could you please PM a link to get on the waiting list buddy?

Cheers

link is in my sig.

[cgallagher93]

Gotta say, I have to agree George is risking becoming like "every other guru" unless he does something about this... In addition, doesn't seem like this Greg fella is too quick to defend his product. If it was me, I'd be in here ripping my balls off by now!

[SimonHarrison]

I have a bazillion sites with a degree of dupe content on them and they are all still indexed and do nicely, it's an issue but not one that bothers me to the same degree it seems to be bothering other folks here.

Hell Jeff makes a killing doing almost exactly the same thing infact he doesn't even bother spinning it.

I dont' see how George is tarnishing his image, I wouldn't use it to make my quality sites but for cheapie Adsense sites etc, doesn't seem like a half bad tool, lots of stuff from Firepow etc all integrated.

I can live with the negative aspects.

[Greg Jacobs]

lots of hating going on in here. Not sure how it all came out of the woodwork. The Mage has been around for months. I took dozens of Beta Testers from the WAr Room in August. And the ones that followed through are earning. We had a WSO a few weeks ago and everybody bought and loved it.

Now all this hating because my friend George promotes it. Not sure what the reason is, but regardless....

re: the Mage

I am not going to get into a leading technical debate with people who obviously know more about everything than I ever could know about anything

however....I know my system works .

I know it works for me
I know it works for others

I know it earns people money.

Re: comments about duplicate, footprints whatever... .

It is always a concern, but thats why the system is templated.
At the guts it is a fast installer and massive posting creation engine that you can use with templates for whatever you want.

We are adding more mods all the time. Just in the last week we added the CJ API and the CB RSS to the engine as well.

Our soution is TurnKEY

Anyways. The stuff works, If you guys want to complain some more then feel free to do so, I prefer not to make anybody else wrong.

I am just going to continue doing what I was doing and earning

If anybody has constructive questions then happy to answer.

-Greg

[cgallagher93]

Greg,

Fair enough. On the other hand, I still don't think it's worth $797 not by a longshot, and don't think you really addressed my questions properly.

I'm certainly not a hater as you call it. It's called constructive critcism or in this case, constructive questionism (is that even a word?)

Just trying to unearth the details...

Connor

[Franco Mocke]

Originally Posted by askloz

I'll give ya a few more reasons not to.

1) the guy has absolutely no idea how search engines work
2) the content is duplicate content
3) those pages will end up disappearing from the search engine and rankings will not become stable.
4) the guy has no clue how to do seo
5) it's obviously rushed software / launch, you even see errors in the posts via that magesniper video - Sorry George, not trying to put you down mate, but you have made a BIG mistake promoting that guy's software... And for the price, what a rip off! Tried to help ya mate before stepping into that big hole of a mistake. oh well

I'll be having mine completed soon, and you will see the big difference in how it does things, the right way, from a person who excels in SEO.

Loz,

Mind your manners man really! Did you even try out his product? Give the guy a chance before you jump in here bashing his balls and everything.

Stop sounding like a monkey man and give us some proof for your accusations.

[askloz]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

lots of hating going on in here. Not sure how it all came out of the woodwork. The Mage has been around for months. I took dozens of Beta Testers from the WAr Room in August. And the ones that followed through are earning. We had a WSO a few weeks ago and everybody bought and loved it.

it's not hating, I know it can come across that way. but your soft is just lame, its not very well thought out. you haven't taken in to consideration how search engines work at all.

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

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Now all this hating because my friend George promotes it. Not sure what the reason is, but regardless....

dude, no one is hating, George contacted me before about your site before he even decided to promote your soft', and I told him straight up, the software is not worth that price, and has many flaws in it.

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

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I am not going to get into a leading technical debate with people who obviously know more about everything than I ever could know about anything

Oh, ok, so you're a SEO Professional? hmmm.

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

l
however....I know my system works .

I know it works for me
I know it works for others

I know it earns people money.

I never said it wouldn't... first, you have no respect for search engines, breaking one of the major rules of Google and others - and in time when their algorithm finally gets to your sites to judge how to rank you, it'll spit you out faster than you can say your name - i know, cos i've done EXACTLY what you were doing 3 years ago, those sites I had, many of them dropped out of the top 1000 listings, while others got de-indexed, but as soon as I made changes to it, doing things the RIGHT WAY, things have remained stable..

secondly, you have no idea what duplicate content does, it dies into the background eventually, turning your site into a worthless piece of c**p of other ppls' articles.

Why do you think Article directories are starting to lose their power now? even ezine articles are facing the same problem.

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

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Re: comments about duplicate, footprints whatever... .

It is always a concern, but thats why the system is templated.
At the guts it is a fast installer and massive posting creation engine that you can use with templates for whatever you want.

LMAO, having a template does NOT get rid of the foot print. unique content and randomly "******" (not gonna say) does.

[askloz]

Excuse you, i never swore.

I dont need to try his product, i've seen his demo videos... I know enough about this industry (SEO) to know his software is lame.

you're just a newbie that doesn't have a clue how things work in the SEO world.

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

Loz,

Mind your manners man really! Did you even try out his product? Give the guy a chance before you jump in here bashing his balls and everything.

Stop sounding like a monkey man and give us some proof for your accusations.

How can that be done when I fixed all the problems years ago.

and stop telling me what to do, you aint my mother...

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by cgallagher93

Greg,

Fair enough. On the other hand, I still don't think it's worth $797 not by a longshot, and don't think you really addressed my questions properly.

I'm certainly not a hater as you call it. It's called constructive critcism or in this case, constructive questionism (is that even a word?)

Just trying to unearth the details...

Connor

Constructive anything is welcome.

You can assemble together your own collection of scripts and processes and approximate the same thing. Its actually how i used to have it before putting together in a more easy to use package.

So is it worth the investment?
It just depends if you use it to its potentiality.
If so then yes absolutely. It will save you years and months of gathering together piecework processes.

If you already have your system down pat and it earns and works for you then you would have to investigate deeper.

Re: your earlier comment about thailand. I have lived here for about 8 years because it is a nice place to be. that is all there is to it. You can and come visit too.

[Franco Mocke]

Originally Posted by askloz

Excuse you, i never swore.

I dont need to try his product, i've seen his demo videos... I know enough about this industry (SEO) to know his software is lame.

you're just a newbie that doesn't have a clue how things work in the SEO world.




How can that be done when I fixed all the problems years ago.

and stop telling me what to do, you aint my mother...

Loz, I bought your products "teaching" us how to do SEO, and I learned SQUAT from you. You keep bashing in here and accusing everybody of being noobs and not knowing what they are doing, but I don't see any TEACHING from your side.

If you cannot add anything useful to the discussion, why are you here? We all know you are all mighty rich and powerful, so you don't have to keep telling us.

Nobody says you cannot complain, but you need some PROOF to backup your claims. Watching videos and saying the system sucks is really ignorant in my opinion.

And how on earth would you know I'm an SEO noob? Really man c'mon.

I never said his product is excellent, I haven't tried it so don't KNOW YET.

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

If anybody has constructive questions then happy to answer.
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-Greg

Hi Greg, here's a few constructive questions for you, give George a hello from me as I'm guessing he's sat next to you watching this unfold.

I wouldn't ideally want every blog installed on the same IP, same hosting area, do you enter some FTP details somewhere to allow it to install into different locations?

Is there functionality within the s/w to have the home page of the blog left for manual editing with internal pages being automated ?

Do you retain any hooks into any of the sites built with WP mage from a technical perspective, by that I mean when the s/w is installed on the domain of our choice does it run entirely from that domain or does it make any calls to a central server ?

If you're only selling 500 copies of this, seems like a small return for such a big investment, is there no recurring fees at all for development, upgrades, support etc?

Do you feel Google may well start looking for a WP Mage footprint I doubt it will be hard for Google to see sites made with the s/w ?

On your sales site it says make 100 sites with 8000 pages each , that is a huge amount of thinly duplicated content, in addition do you think Google will have an issue with a site going from 0 pages to 8000 iin an unnatural time scale .

IIs there a module which would allow you to run the code from an ad platform such as OpenX? I ask this because I'm not overly keen on Amazon etc, I would like to run CPA offers in many cases and I like to rotate them , for this I need to run an ad server.

I notice you have included a full Adsense theme based on Xfactors work, sounds, good, there was a theme made for it by a Warrior some time back, which I have used with some success of late, one of the nice features it had was that you could add some code in a widget and it then displayed the relevent add on to every page on your blog, can WP Mage do something similar to make it easy to add my choice of ads asa opposed to Amazon, Clickbank etc.

Does WP-Mage offer functionality along the lines of mass plugin installation, similar to firepow, ie install a new plugin but to 100 blogs at once ?

Sure I may have more questions but there's a few to start with.

[askloz]

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

Loz, I bought your products "teaching" us how to do SEO, and I learned SQUAT from you. You keep bashing in here and accusing everybody of being noobs and not knowing what they are doing, but I don't see any TEACHING from your side.

Well, thanks for being a member

If you learned squat, is that my fault. Did you ever ask me any questions? Not as far as I recall. If you had, then I would of taken you to one side and helped you even more.

You dont see any teaching on my side? where you been living then? pull that curtain from your eyes.

VTGP has heaps of info there about SEO, more than you already knew. And I bet to this very day, you dont put them into practice.

I've helped thousands learn how to do SEO and increase their search engine rankings. If you're not gonna take action, like 90% of peeps do, not really much I can do since it's out of my hands from that point.

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

If you cannot add anything useful to the discussion, why are you here? We all know you are all mighty rich and powerful, so you don't have to keep telling us.

I am being useful, giving my SEO experience based on what his does, this is a review section. I am giving my review based on his lack of seo experience and how SE's work.

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

Nobody says you cannot complain, but you need some PROOF to backup your claims. Watching videos and saying the system sucks is really ignorant in my opinion.

Listen, like i said, my sites have been corrected of the mistakes, so there is nothing to show you proof of something where i used my custom software...

but if you want proof of one of my article directories. then go here:

site:Article Directory, Post Articles, Free Articles For Websites

site:www.articles.ask-me-about.com

14623

That's how many articles I have, google has removed most of them, why? cos they're ALL duplicate content, that article directory is about 3 years old.

That proves my point that duplicate content, after X years will drop from the index. at one stage I had all my articles indexed and receiving like 3-4,000 visitors per day, now dropped to approx 50-200 a day.

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

And how on earth would you know I'm an SEO noob? Really man c'mon.

I never said his product is excellent, I haven't tried it so don't KNOW YET.

You just answered your question, you dont know, I do. how? based on intense testing and studying. I'm able to test things for many hours per day, im online for 14-18hrs a day, testing, testing, testing.. I know what works, I know what doesn't. Many others out there dont even have 2 hours online to do the amount of testing that I've done over the years.

And most ppl wont even test.

I didn't get where I am today by not knowing what I am doing. I got where I am today by knowing what I am doing by ignoring most SEO posts online and test things out myself.

if you're not gonna do deep testing on 100's of sites like I have, then you wont have that picture of how SE's work. You can't work things out by having just a couple sites.

[wolf29]

Greg, I watched the video with you and George and it looks very interesting, but wanted to know how long have you been using your own system? My main concern is the duplicate content issue. Changing some words around, and in some cases they don't make sense, concerns me. Have you checked some of your posts against copyscape?

Thanks for posting here to answer questions.

Jay

[willystyle]

It is fun reading this forum to see what everyone has to say about Wordpress Mage. I would love to find something that would truly be automated and work.

The $800 price tag is a little steep. What was the price for the WSO?

[Franco Mocke]

Originally Posted by askloz

Well, thanks for being a member

My pleasure... It is unfair of me to have a discussion with you here, as this thread is about wpMage. So will make this quick.

All I tried to tell you is that you should not accuse people or products without explaining WHY and giving the proof.

You cannot accept that people will just believe you, it is your philosophy to test things for yourself and not taking what people say for granted, so why go against your personal beliefs by doing exactly to other people what you hate?

Nobody here is interested in opinions, or at least not I am.

[askloz]

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

All I tried to tell you is that you should not accuse people or products without explaining WHY and giving the proof.

I already did, and those who know about SEO who haven't spoken up know what I am talking about too.

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

Nobody here is interested in opinions, or at least not I am.

i think you will find that over 70% of the people here do, that's why a lot of ppl go to review sites, or ask their friends for their opinions.


any way, i aint gonna say any more on the matter. I'll let ppl waste 800 bones.

[Franco Mocke]

Originally Posted by askloz

I already did, and those who know about SEO who haven't spoken up know what I am talking about too.

i think you will find that over 70% of the people here do, that's why a lot of ppl go to review sites, or ask their friends for their opinions.

any way, i aint gonna say any more on the matter. I'll let ppl waste 800 bones.

We all appreciate your opinion, but the problem here is you have not actually tested the product yet. You only watched the videos.

But maybe that was enough for you to make a decision.

[willystyle]

what type of software will you have coming out Loz?

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Hi Greg, here's a few constructive questions for you, give George a hello from me as I'm guessing he's sat next to you watching this unfold.

I wouldn't ideally want every blog installed on the same IP, same hosting area, do you enter some FTP details somewhere to allow it to install into different locations?

You install CPMAGE on a single IP and then it creates as many sites as you like there. You can just use differnt hosts/IPs for other installs of CPMAGE (you have unlimited)

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Is there functionality within the s/w to have the home page of the blog left for manual editing with internal pages being automated ?

We recommend this. Set a PAGE to static to guard against manual reviews (who most of the time only look at the homepage

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Do you retain any hooks into any of the sites built with WP mage from a technical perspective, by that I mean when the s/w is installed on the domain of our choice does it run entirely from that domain or does it make any calls to a central server ?

Best answer I can give is that for all intensive purposes it functions as a standalone. Hope that is satisfactory.

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

If you're only selling 500 copies of this, seems like a small return for such a big investment, is there no recurring fees at all for development, upgrades, support etc?

Do you feel Google may well start looking for a WP Mage footprint I doubt it will be hard for Google to see sites made with the s/w ?

On your sales site it says make 100 sites with 8000 pages each , that is a huge amount of thinly duplicated content, in addition do you think Google will have an issue with a site going from 0 pages to 8000 iin an unnatural time scale .

There are different strategies for populating mage sites. We have numerous thread in our internal forums discussing the various ways. And I have huge amounts of my own testing data. (which is still inconclusive)

though the summary is that if Google already 'trusts' a site then it is more or less ok. Its just a matter of building that trust (or getting domains with it)

Without that trust we have roadmaps for adding posts in bursts

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

IIs there a module which would allow you to run the code from an ad platform such as OpenX? I ask this because I'm not overly keen on Amazon etc, I would like to run CPA offers in many cases and I like to rotate them , for this I need to run an ad server.

we use a plugin that can put in whatever code you need wherever you need it. so yes.

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

I notice you have included a full Adsense theme based on Xfactors work, sounds, good, there was a theme made for it by a Warrior some time back, which I have used with some success of late, one of the nice features it had was that you could add some code in a widget and it then displayed the relevent add on to every page on your blog, can WP Mage do something similar to make it easy to add my choice of ads asa opposed to Amazon, Clickbank etc.

This is %100 developed inhouse. Never seen before
We have an color picker/changer , inline header upload and auto-inserting of adsense code creating the recommended blocks and a few other tricks

it blows away anything else.

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Does WP-Mage offer functionality along the lines of mass plugin installation, similar to firepow, ie install a new plugin but to 100 blogs at once ?

Sure I may have more questions but there's a few to start with.

You can bundle your own plugins in with your installer package if that is your question.

And btw... just to note. MAGE is all Hosted by you. Unlimited installs on unlimited domains as long as you own them all. No limits.


Whew.... that was alot of questions. Hope I got them all

-Greg

[askloz]

im not gonna discuss that, this is about WPMage. and not fair on Greg, even though I ripped him a new A** hole. (sorry Greg - just giving my expert opinion on soft' of this kind)

Originally Posted by willystyle

what type of software will you have coming out Loz?

[askloz]

OMG, I dont need to use his software.

My FIRST version 3 years or so ago, did EXACT same thing! I am telling you ALL from experience... take it or leave it... up to you.

Originally Posted by Franco Mocke

We all appreciate your opinion, but the problem here is you have not actually tested the product yet. You only watched the videos.

But maybe that was enough for you to make a decision.

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by askloz

im not gonna discuss that, this is about WPMage. and not fair on Greg, even though I ripped him a new A** hole.

actually you missed.