WP Mage Review Thread

[askloz]

LOL, glad you got a sense of humor over it Greg. Most peeps here think I've just ripped you a new a** hole.

any way, good luck with it. it can only get better from here. but i seriously and highly recommend you start working on a content re-writer built in.

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

actually you missed.

[askloz]

Greg, check your PM.

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

You install CPMAGE on a single IP and then it creates as many sites as you like there. You can just use differnt hosts/IPs for other installs of CPMAGE (you have unlimited)

Whew.... that was alot of questions. Hope I got them all

-Greg

Yeah I think so thanks Greg, how easy is it to install CPMAGE, I know you include one installation yourself but I wouldn't think it's wise to install dozens of these sites on to the same IP so I'm thinking spread it around a little, is it relatively easy to upload to a different hosting account myself?

I wasn't 100% clear on your statement about whether it makes a call to a central server either, could clarrify that either way, what I'm asking is there any communication at all between my copy of WP Mage on my server and anything of yours , is it 100% autonomous ?

[Vibrant Warrior]

Would Mage work ok with Bluehost or will I have to change my hosting service? I heard that Mage doesn't work well with some of hosting services out there.

Also do you think I can get into profit within about 4 weeks or so (I am looking at a $500+ mark for the first month) or will that take longer? I know the feedback here does say the first month is very mediocre but I am just wondering what my chances are of a $500 first month?

[clarencechew]

Hi Greg,

Can we use sub-domain to setup for all mage sites ??

Clarence

[AmyKay]

I would say it's unlikely to make $500 your first month. And that's purely because it takes Google that long often to find and index your posts. I have a couples sites that are only 6 days old, and they've gotton a couple clicks, but even that is pretty fast.

I have about 70 sites up now, over about 6 weeks, and I'm not making $500/month yet. Well, maybe this month. It's still young. I made around $25 yesterday, and I think I'll make $30 today. As long as the $$ continues to increase, I'm thrilled.

That money, of course, is mostly coming from my earlier sites. It just takes a little time.

But there's nothing faster than the Mage. If you want to play the numbers game, this is the best tool for it in my opinion.

[bdegrossa]

Can someone knowledgeable about Mage talk to why it takes so long to get indexed? I launched two Sniper sites last week and it took only 2 and 3 days to get indexed. I'm already getting 10 hits per day on a very, very targeted and low traffic terms. I bookmarked one site and didn't bookmark the other.

Also, is there anything like the XML Sitemaps plugin built into Mage?

I'm also interested in the question re Bluehost that was just posted by someone else.

Thanks,

Becky

[AmyKay]

Bluehost does not work for using CPMage, but it will work for installing WPMage. The difference is that CPMage will install multiple sites from one backend. WPMage package installs the Mage on one site at a time. It's still fully loaded, just takes a little longer.

I got that information from the Mage forums. I haven't personally tried it on BlueHost. Apparently, it's the same situation with HostMonster.

Oh, and yes, it comes with sitemaps configured, robots.txt, allinone seo pack, etc. All configured.

[bdegrossa]

Thanks, Amy. Do you know why so long to get indexed? Seems like it doesn't take much to get a site indexed in a couple of days, anymore.

Becky

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

I wasn't 100% clear on your statement about whether it makes a call to a central server either, could clarrify that either way, what I'm asking is there any communication at all between my copy of WP Mage on my server and anything of yours , is it 100% autonomous ?

When you set up your Mage plugins it will check your license ... you don't need to be connected to Greg's server to operate the mage, though.

[Berticus]

Can the WPmage be unintstalled at a later time while leaving the blog and its contents intact? I believe removing it from the website would mean that the blog itself becomes a salable product all on its own...

[askloz]

it's nothing to do with mage, or any software for that matter, all sites take about on avg 2-3 days to be indexed if you dont do anything...

to speed things up, go to mixx.com and digg.com and bookmark 2-3 pages over a course of say 20-60 minutes (dont make it look like your spamming), and run a ror.xml file to your websites page headers, or grab the rss feed from your site and submit it out to rss feed directories. and they'll be indexed in about 12-24hrs, but the site will disappear for a bit then come back.

Originally Posted by bdegrossa

Can someone knowledgeable about Mage talk to why it takes so long to get indexed? I launched two Sniper sites last week and it took only 2 and 3 days to get indexed. I'm already getting 10 hits per day on a very, very targeted and low traffic terms. I bookmarked one site and didn't bookmark the other.

Also, is there anything like the XML Sitemaps plugin built into Mage?

I'm also interested in the question re Bluehost that was just posted by someone else.

Thanks,

Becky

[askloz]

You can uninstall it from your mage hosting account that will create the other sites for you...

but why would you want to do that? to flip the site? fair enough I guess... but if you do that, then you wont be able to create any more sites.

Greg has thought of this already, but at current, its not advisable because a few elements can cause some plugins not to work correctly because it needs mage installed on the main website hosting creation account.

Greg is going to work on a mage-site-flipper plugin that allows you to keep mage installed on your main account and suspend, or even perhaps allow the site to build over time. the details i dont know fully yet, since he's still working on some ideas.

but for now, leave mage installed, build your site empire first.

Originally Posted by Berticus

Can the WPmage be unintstalled at a later time while leaving the blog and its contents intact? I believe removing it from the website would mean that the blog itself becomes a salable product all on its own...

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by Berticus

Can the WPmage be unintstalled at a later time while leaving the blog and its contents intact? I believe removing it from the website would mean that the blog itself becomes a salable product all on its own...

Hi Berticus,

You can uninstall WPmage from any site at any time. The content, once loaded, will remain. It is my understanding, however, that the products will no longer be on your site.

You can sell your blog without the mage plugins (until Greg adds the "flippable" license). If you're like most mage's however, you will discover it is much more lucrative to keep the site.

Linda

[askloz]

Linda, Greg said it's still not advisable - im on skype now with him.

Its complicated with content mage
[7:42:02 PM] Greg Jacobs: because it doesnt load the content until the first page load
[7:42:26 PM] Greg Jacobs: so we are working on a solution and want to sell it as a sperate license/plugin
[7:42:42 PM] Greg Jacobs: basicly right now if you remove the plugins, the sites may not work right

[Berticus]

Originally Posted by askloz

Linda, Greg said it's still not advisable - im on skype now with him.

Ah, thank you for that. So testing would have to be done. Understandable.

Thank you as well, Linda.

[Linda Van Fleet]

Yes, that is correct. However, while not advisable, it is still doable after the content is loaded.

Cheers,
Linda

[Richard Cheah]

Hi Greg

Is there any future free updates?

Don't see any answers from you concerning
this area.

Please comment.



Yours sincerely

Richard Cheah

[askloz]

Greg's been awake for about 27hrs, he's knackered, so he wont be able to answer your Q's right now... any Mage members can submit support ticket to his other guy who's helping out.

Originally Posted by Richard Cheah

Hi Greg

Is there any future free updates?

Don't see any answers from you concerning
this area.

Please comment.



Yours sincerely

Richard Cheah

[askloz]

heehe, not gonna argue with ya, just telling ya what he said to me... "problems may occur with the plugins". so I think if he says not advisable, dont do it.

Originally Posted by Linda Van Fleet

Yes, that is correct. However, while not advisable, it is still doable after the content is loaded.

Cheers,
Linda

[Greg Jacobs]

not quite sleeping yet...

Future free update? You get lifetime access to Wordpress Mage and all future updates of this version. (there may be upgrades offered at a later point, but they will be something completely different)

Originally Posted by Richard Cheah

Hi Greg

Is there any future free updates?

Don't see any answers from you concerning
this area.

Please comment.



Yours sincerely

Richard Cheah

[oldwarrior]

I came here because of Georges recommendation for WP Mage. I respect his opinion but this is not something you buy for dinner at the supermarket. it affects your business.

I had some questions after i saw the vid. The language quality I saw from the article on the Mage site in Georges video did not look good. English is not my native language but I read some text on the videoscreen that I guess potential customers would not be impressed with when they arrive on a site from someone they don't know. I could not make very much sense of it. But I only saw this little shot so maybe it is not all like that.

I also had questions about the SEO. Another thing is that there is not much trackrecord.

I always want to listen to others. So what is the verdict? I also read the other WP Mage thread on the forum and, especially Loz, makes some critical notes. I thank him for being this way because it is better to get it into the open now and not discover some issues later. After reading the threads it looks like there is a private discussion going on.

[Berticus]

To be completely honest, I dropped just under 1k for this... I am hoping this will provide the passive income I require.

@askloz - As to a site empire: we'll see how many I can generate in two months on my off hours. You see, I'm a soldier and I deploy in January. Internet access is a dubious concern of mine at best and so continuations past my deployment date are also dubious, at best. Thus the passive income I require.

[twinmom]

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Yeah I think so thanks Greg, how easy is it to install CPMAGE, I know you include one installation yourself but I wouldn't think it's wise to install dozens of these sites on to the same IP so I'm thinking spread it around a little, is it relatively easy to upload to a different hosting account myself?

Simon, CPMage is very easy to install and Greg's documentation is top-notch. My 12yo son set up a new hosting account with CPMage for me a couple of days ago and didn't ask for any help - he was just using Greg's PDF.

[clarencechew]

Hi,

Anyone can answer me what is the different if i using sub-domain for create mage website compare with to buy different domain name ? If i create few thousand of website, probably it will very costly just on domain name itself. Thanks.

Regards,

Clarence

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by clarencechew

Hi,

Anyone can answer me what is the different if i using sub-domain for create mage website compare with to buy different domain name ? If i create few thousand of website, probably it will very costly just on domain name itself. Thanks.

Regards,

Clarence

The term 'subdomain' get confused. Not to get into technicalities, What we mean in practice is add-on domain which basically means its a domain. But it is configured different.

You can in theory do real subdomains as you like. Though that strategy will have to be researched.

[clarencechew]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

The term 'subdomain' get confused. Not to get into technicalities, What we mean in practice is add-on domain which basically means its a domain. But it is configured different.

You can in theory do real subdomains as you like. Though that strategy will have to be researched.

Thanks Greg for your instant replied. Subdomains or add-on simply means that I just bought a domain for example clarencechew.com and create multiple website like clarencechew.com/weightloss, clarecechew.com/dogtraining, etc to create my multiple mage sites. Is it practical to do in this manners ? How to configure differently if i used this type of strategy ? Thanks.

Clarence

[powyoung]

I don't understand what everyone is complaining about? It's $27 a month through the regular non-Sniper link right? It's only $797 if you want to do an outright purchase. Firepow has similar functionality and costs $120/mo., but Mage looks like it does more.

Granted you may get some dupe content penalties, but I've had some articles that I've posted that I've barely spun, probably less than 15% unique and have had 2-3 places in the top 10. A lot of your pages may not rank with this software, but you can crank out so many non-competitive long tail word pages that you should get a good number that do rank. For the keywords that do get lots of searches just make sure you have unique content. This seems like a no-brainer for me. Also he has a 60 day guarantee.

[KARRAX]

Hi,

Where can I get this cool software? I was to late yesterday to order and now is close.

Is this software on the market?

Thanks,
Johnny

[powyoung]

Just go to wpmage.com/oto and you can get it there.

[SimonHarrison]

I'm close to pushing the button, my only concern really is that we have all these people building sites pulling and spinning the same content in the same way as they will all probably use the internal keyword tool.

So we have a gazzilion or so sites all using the exact same spun content all in the same niches, that concerns me, the internal keyword tool is a nice feature but I think the downside is from the primary seed keyphrase it's goign to churn out the same long tails for everybody.

Wish it had a more impressive spinner, but on the other hand it's still a damm easy way to implement a lot of sites.

I'm also unsure as to why there should be any serious delay in indexing, I can wang a site up and with a tiny amount of social bookmarking and nothing else get it indexed in 24 hours or so, if I throw in some RSS and even a couple of 2.0's backling to it and then socially bookmark those I can get in the top 3 in google within a week, why should it take weeks to index the content ?

Despite the issues, it's still tempting.

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by AmyKay

I would say it's unlikely to make $500 your first month. And that's purely because it takes Google that long often to find and index your posts. I have a couples sites that are only 6 days old, and they've gotton a couple clicks, but even that is pretty fast.

I have about 70 sites up now, over about 6 weeks, and I'm not making $500/month yet. Well, maybe this month. It's still young. I made around $25 yesterday, and I think I'll make $30 today. As long as the $$ continues to increase, I'm thrilled.

That money, of course, is mostly coming from my earlier sites. It just takes a little time.

But there's nothing faster than the Mage. If you want to play the numbers game, this is the best tool for it in my opinion.

Hi folks,

Can I ask you, how many posts per site on average have you generated?

70 sites, $35 a day is, and I don't intend this to sound derogatory but a flat out awful return, however I guess this could be down to the monetizing of the sites etc, but I put up 8 small sites for a friend in a gaming niche a couple of weeks ago that are already generating nearly 3 x that a day from 8 sites..

Just makes me concerned as to how Google is indexing these sites, indexing should be short and sweet, there's no requirement what so ever for it to take weeks on end unless Google doesnt' like something , if all's ok you should be indexed and ranking fine unless you're choosing hard to rank long tails.

My fear i think is will Google see WP Mage's footprint a mile away and users see issues.

Unfortunately as this is such early days it's impossible to tell.

*hovers over buy button * :-)

[SimonHarrison]

Greg , if you're still alive check your PM please.

Thanks.

[Steve Crooks]

Why are you hovering over the buy button when you can obviously do much better building sites the way you have been. If you can build 8 sites and make over $100 a day within a couple of weeks why are you even contemplating buying this system?

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Hi folks,

Can I ask you, how many posts per site on average have you generated?

70 sites, $35 a day is, and I don't intend this to sound derogatory but a flat out awful return, however I guess this could be down to the monetizing of the sites etc, but I put up 8 small sites for a friend in a gaming niche a couple of weeks ago that are already generating nearly 3 x that a day from 8 sites..

Just makes me concerned as to how Google is indexing these sites, indexing should be short and sweet, there's no requirement what so ever for it to take weeks on end unless Google doesnt' like something , if all's ok you should be indexed and ranking fine unless you're choosing hard to rank long tails.

My fear i think is will Google see WP Mage's footprint a mile away and users see issues.

Unfortunately as this is such early days it's impossible to tell.

*hovers over buy button * :-)

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Why are you hovering over the buy button when you can obviously do much better building sites the way you have been. If you can build 8 sites and make over $100 a day within a couple of weeks why are you even contemplating buying this system?

I'l explain it for you Steve.

Just because you can manually build 8 sites with unique content in a considerably longer period and make more revenue than one person is quoting from their results, doesn't negate the fact that there's a huge benefit to being able to build a vast number more in half the time. There's also no reason to believe unless there are issues with indexing that a greater revenue stream could be eaked from the WP Mage sites, so while this tiny comparisom between the different approaches is intriguing, it doesn't take away from the benefits the WP Mage program brings to the table.

Of course you were just being a smart arse for some reason, got any more attitude to serve up for no benefit whatsoever or just bored ?

Can't think why good threads go bad on this forum sometimes, just no need whatsoever for your post, none, as if comparing results, somehow makes it impossible for you to look at other avenues.

[pandorabox]

Originally Posted by powyoung

Just go to wpmage.com/oto and you can get it there.

This doesn't get you the software to build the sites, does it?

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by pandorabox

This doesn't get you the software to build the sites, does it?

Greg's already sold out of the full package, full details here:

WORDPRESS MAGE

Been waffling about deciding whether to buy or not, been somewhat moot .

I've just been going to the oto page as well entirely forgetting the original URL from George's page.

He who hesitates and all that malarky :-)

Catch em on the re launch, be some good feedback by then as well.

[Danny Keegan]

Originally Posted by pandorabox

This doesn't get you the software to build the sites, does it?

Correct, it gets you the "adept" membership where you have access to the information and tools to build the blogs manually but for the automation tools you need the "master" mage membership.

Cheers,
Danny.

[KARRAX]

Originally Posted by pandorabox

This doesn't get you the software to build the sites, does it?

No! You can only see the videos how to do it manual.

Very good, but i need the software. I don't have the time to do it manualy...

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by Danny Keegan

Correct, it gets you the "adept" membership where you have access to the information and tools to build the blogs manually but for the automation tools you need the "master" mage membership.

Cheers,
Danny.

Cheers, was just about to ask about the basic differences.

[Steve Crooks]

Whoa there with the sense of humour breakdown.. It was a simple question that's all. Sheesh! I was merely pointing out that you can obviously make a lot more money using the manual approach than by creating a bunch of trashy automated sites that will only last a few nanoseconds in the search engines.

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

I'l explain it for you Steve.

Just because you can manually build 8 sites with unique content in a considerably longer period and make more revenue than one person is quoting from their results, doesn't negate the fact that there's a huge benefit to being able to build a vast number more in half the time. There's also no reason to believe unless there are issues with indexing that a greater revenue stream could be eaked from the WP Mage sites, so while this tiny comparisom between the different approaches is intriguing, it doesn't take away from the benefits the WP Mage program brings to the table.

Of course you were just being a smart arse for some reason, got any more attitude to serve up for no benefit whatsoever or just bored ?

Can't think why good threads go bad on this forum sometimes, just no need whatsoever for your post, none, as if comparing results, somehow makes it impossible for you to look at other avenues.

[SimonHarrison]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Whoa there with the sense of humour breakdown.. It was a simple question that's all. Sheesh! I was merely pointing out that you can obviously make a lot more money using the manual approach than by creating a bunch of trashy automated sites that will only last a few nanoseconds in the search engines.

Oops, indeed , sorry Steve I entirely misread the tone and inflection of your post - unreserved apology.

[Steve Crooks]

No probs, thats forum based discussion for you

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Oops, indeed , sorry Steve I entirely misread the tone and inflection of your post - unreserved apology.

[KARRAX]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

No probs, thats forum based discussion for you

Hi Steve,

You do all your niche sites manual without the software?

[Richard Cheah]

WP Mage has now been taken off the market...

It is still early to say if Google will tracked down the sites
with its logarithms, and then de-indxed any sites.

Will take a conservative approach to hear good feedback
from members that had purchased the WP Mage.

Till then, it will be wiser thing to purchase the software.

[Steve Crooks]

Well, I use keyword tools, wordpress, dreamweaver, plugins, firefox addons etc.. so no, I do use lots of software when I build sites. If there is a good way to automate a boring process then I will give it a go. I also believe that there are some things that you simply can't automate, at least not if you are looking for longevity in the search engines anyway. Content production being the number 1 on that list.

Originally Posted by KARRAX

Hi Steve,

You do all your niche sites manual without the software?

[AmyKay]

I'll try to answer some questions. I base my answers on my experience so far, Greg's training, and other Masters' comments in the forum.

I think the whole thing of Mage indexing has been misunderstood. I don't think it takes any longer for a Mage site to get indexed than any other. I don't check my indexing/stats every day on 70 sites. So my first notice of traffic to that 6 day old site was the first adsense click.

Greg tells Mages don't expect to be making money for 3-4 weeks. That's where this "month to index" thing comes from, I think. Really, though, with aged domains, it can happen faster.

When you have a site with 4,000 posts on it, it will take weeks for google to index the site fully. It starts as only a trickle of posts, and builds from there. So I think that fact that I got a click on a 6 day old site is pretty decent. Those 4,000 posts are built with such longtail keyword, they are likely not searched for often.

This Mage game is a little different than what we're used to. I'm still wrapping my head around it. Highly searched for keywords are great, but I don't really care too much. If I can build a 4,000-post site in 10 minutes with 4,000 lesser searched for keywords, I'm pretty happy about that.

Another thing I didn't make clear is that I have 70 sites, but they are not all 6 weeks old. Some I built this week. Yes, if this is all I ever make over 70 sites, I'll be dissapointed, and hope that's not the case. So far, every single day I'm getting more clicks, and more money. I don't check the traffic stats, much, like I said.

Hmmmmmmm, what else? Let me know if you have more questions. I'm not an expert, so I hope I made sense.

[twinmom]

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

Hi folks,

Can I ask you, how many posts per site on average have you generated?


Just makes me concerned as to how Google is indexing these sites, indexing should be short and sweet, there's no requirement what so ever for it to take weeks on end unless Google doesnt' like something , if all's ok you should be indexed and ranking fine unless you're choosing hard to rank long tails.

Hi Simon and all,
I know the offer is closed now, but thought I would give a little input on your questions for when the Mage is available again.

I have given 100% to at least 3 other very popular courses here on WF in recent months, and honestly, was unsuccessful with all. I'm not saying those programs don't work, they just didn't work for me. The thing that I found discouraging with other systems is that I would pour heart and soul into a site, tweaking, testing, etc. and when it didn't produce results, that led to a lot of time lost. I am not doing IM full-time (yet) and only get a couple of good IM work hours a day after the kids are in bed. Although that would probably be more if I would stay off the forums.

I have the Master Mage membership. I aim for creating an average of 1 site an evening. More than that in a couple of hours is very do-able, but I just choose to do one usually. Typically, I have 1000-3000 posts per site. I don't do any backlinking, article marketing, etc. When I first started Maging, I did use SENuke with my sites, but it really didn't seem to make much of a difference, so now, I just leave them alone.

As far as the indexing, the sites do get indexed quickly, but what Mages are looking for is lots of pages indexed, not just the main page. Mage sites thrive on individual post pages being indexed, not necessarily the home page. My sites generally start by having a few pages indexed and then that number will climb over the next month or so. Not all pages get indexed.

I've been very pleased with the results I'm seeing. I've made more than 3x the price of the mage already, and I can only imagine if I were doing it full time.

[Vibrant Warrior]

I personally think the software is worth a try. I mean, it does come with a 30 day money back guarantee and it does have the potential to deliver a very healthy long-term residual income. We invest hundreds on rubbish ebooks and other IM courses that don't get lead to anything anyway.

I think George's material and his recommendations are worthwhile investments. We can obviously see the results. The testimonials speak for themselves. I missed my ticket this time because I was waiting until Monday for more feedback on the forum. Even if one website were to generate a $5 monthly income, if you can build about 50 sites a month each month, it would add up over time. I suppose you could build sites manually for the more lucrative niches to guarantee a higher conversion rate if the quality of the sites look rubbish.

While on the topic, can anyone recommend me any other tools or programs that can genuinely generate a passive in a similar manner?

Jay

[goingup]

How much do the aged domains cost each? Limited funds right now, and Id want to give the 30 day try it out period a good go.

Is there an automated clickbank plugin(for quicker earnings?)

How long does it take for ebay to pay you?

If you are going to do the maximize the site thing that you can do, how much time does it take per site, or does it cost extra to do it? Or take technical ability?

Are you going to be able to sell the sites in the future if you want to, to people who also have the software?

So the cost is $597 (30 day money back guarantee) and than $27 a month?

Can you build some for several months and get to a point where you dont want anymore, and cancel the memebership and keep your sites?

thanks