WP Mage Review Thread

[Linda Van Fleet]

Hi all,

I wanted to tell you about my opinion on the wpmage program for auto blogging via wordpress, using ebay, overstock, amazon and adsense to monetize the sites. I mentioned it in another thread and there were some questions and I didn't want to confuse the issue or hijack the thread so hopefully I'll be able to answer the questions here.

I started wpmage as a beta tester for Greg Jacobs, the creator of the system. I met him right here on the WF and quickly discovered he is a straight-up guy. I've tried other auto blogging programs without success so I thought 'what the heck?', it could be good. I'm glad I did.

First of all, the WPmage system is a program that offers 3 wordpress plugins that work together to create a powerful system of pulling content from article directories and yahoo and product from amazon, ebay and overstock. If you like adsense you can also use that. I primarily use ebay so my review will focus on that.

The plugins:
As I said, there are three: affiliate mage, content mage and posting mage. These can be added to any wordpress site, or used with the autoblogging function of wpmage to create brand new sites.

The affiliate mage and content mage can be used manual operation --- i.e., you can manually input the code in any post to monetize as mentioned above. However, the posting mage plugin is the brains that automate the system; it works with the other two plugins to create what I think is an awesome platform for autoblogging and for monetizing your blogs.

CPmage - The autoblogging feature:
CP stands for "control panel" and that's what this part of the software does. It becomes the control panel for installing a multitude of sites. You can update the sites, delete them ... whatever, from the control panel.

The ability to create blogs quickly is what a lot of people like although that is not why I love the program. With CPmage you can install a wordpress blog, with complete monetization and content ... thousands of posts if you want to ... within minutes. It is like having wp-o-matic and caffienated content on steriods with a lot more control over what you're doing. Whiz bang and its done. (No, it isn't at all like these two programs. I just mention them because that's what I was using prior to getting the wpmage system.)

All of the plugins are installed and activated ... not just the mage-related plugins, but plugins that are required for seo, spam control, social bookmarking, etc. You do not have to install a single plugin.

WPmage - The autobuilding feature:
If you don't want to use the steriods ... there's a program for you, too (my favorite). It also creates the wordpress site almost instantly, installing all the plugins just as mentioned above. The only difference in this and the CPmage is that you install the mage program on a site-by-site basis. Other than that it has the same power as the CPmage.

Greg refers to the above systems: manual, cpmage and wpmage as "paths". When you purchase the mage system you are given the option to choose any of the above paths to creating your own system. You are not locked into any one path ... you can choose any or all. It is a flexible program.

Oh, and another thing ... you can install the mage system on as many domains as you want to ... no limits whatsoever.

Now, to answer the questions raised in the other thread:

I have built 30 "mage" sites since I started in August of this year. The first month I had an income of around $150 from the sites -- I don't really count this as my first month because I was busy building sites and didn't expect any income at all. (Greg says it takes about 4 weeks to start seeing income). In September the income had increased to $350 and this month I have already made $600+. From the way my eBay report looks I should pass $1000 by month's end.

And, one thing I should tell you here (not for sympathy, but to just let you know how impressive this is), I was diagnosed with breast cancer in October and have had surgery. I've had little time to build or work on sites. The October income has been totally passive.

Another question that was asked was about the seo -- If you build your site with either the cpmage or wpmage automatic program, the site will have all the plugins installed and enabled to SEO your site.

Also .. regarding content: you don't have to create any content if you don't want to. The program pulls content from article sites and yahoo. I do because I write and like to create. It takes me a lot longer to build sites, too. So, I don't advise doing that unless you can wait to start earning money. There are other beta testers who have made a lot more money than I have and they do it just like Greg says to do it.

Well, that's my review of the wpmage system. No affiliation at all ... just a review from a satisfied customer.

Linda

[JackLypka]

Congrats, Linda. Excellent story and very well-written review. I've signed up for the WP Mage and look forward to seeing what it offers.

Jack

[JBanis]

Thanks Linda, thats great. I will give it a go too.

I got a little confused about the difference between WPmage and CPmage. Is the main difference that with WPmage you add your own content? So its less automatic?

Also, I asked the helpdesk there and the issue I have is that I like the possibility of selling my blog later. Thats not possible yet, but perhaps in the future. How long does it take you to find a niche and build a site from scratch?

Thanks for your review. Looks promising. And also...sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I wish you all the best with that.

Jan

[AmyKay]

I'm using the full mage system from the pre-launch, like Linda.

For me, I'm not spending much time at all finding niches. Since it takes only a matter of minutes to put up a fully loaded site with the full mage system, why should I spend hours choosing between niches? I may as well spend those hours and put up dozens of sites... one for EACH niche. Maybe I'm lazy, but I think that's the intent and beauty of the mage system.

I'm spreading my niches all over the place, all kinds of different products and topics. I think it's fun! SO much less stress.

[bgmacaw]

Unfortunately, the majority of the tools aren't available right now and it's unclear what the price tag will be on them. While the techniques described are good they're almost identical to what I already do. What I was looking for from this system were the automation tools and they aren't available. So, I'm somewhat disappointed with it at this point. Greg says that he'll have the tools available after November 5 so we'll see at that time.

If you're new to niche site marketing, WP Mage is a pretty good method to follow, especially for eBay EPN, Amazon and other product affiliate sites.

[perswealth]

Hello Linda,

What is the website address for wpmage so i can get more information? Sounds interesting

[LIndaB]

I'm wondering how much of the income potential is dependent on Ebay. The reason I ask is that right now it seems to be extremely hard to get accepted by them. Not sure why. I've never had any problem getting accepted by any other affiliate program, including CPA programs. Can as much be earned from Amazon and Overstock?

[michaelmac]

Hi Linda, PM sent to you.

Thanks,

Michael

[michaelmac]

Originally Posted by perswealth

Hello Linda,

What is the website address for wpmage so i can get more information? Sounds interesting

Hi perswealth,

You'll find information and a free download at:

http://www.wpmage.com/somethingdifferent/

HTH's Ya!

Michael

[twinmom]

I too, had the privilege of being one of Greg's beta testers. Linda covered everything very nicely, but I just wanted to chime in as another that is having wonderful success with WPMage.

It's surprisingly simple, but so powerful. Of the methods that Linda mentioned, I use CPMage to set up all of my sites. It's all pre-configured and after a few clicks, my site is set up. I do some tweaking to the site that same evening, and other than going back in to browse stats, that site is done. Unless I want to change something, there's no more work to that site.

I will mention that not all sites are winners. I have a few that haven't made much money, but for the amount of time that I spent putting the site up, it's really no big deal.

I have also been trying out the Mage system with some variations of what Greg teaches, and am finding success that way too, so it's certainly not limited in use.

Tracy

[twinmom]

Originally Posted by LIndaB

I'm wondering how much of the income potential is dependent on Ebay. The reason I ask is that right now it seems to be extremely hard to get accepted by them. Not sure why. I've never had any problem getting accepted by any other affiliate program, including CPA programs. Can as much be earned from Amazon and Overstock?

Linda,
I didn't get approved by Overstock, so can't speak for that option, but most of my income does come from EPN. Right now, I've only done a small amount on Amazon, and my Adsense runs about 20% of my EPN.

Included in Greg's info is a PDF with information about what EPN looks for. I had been denied a couple of times. After I got into the beta, I tried again using Greg's information, and I did get accepted.

HTH,
Tracy

[admiral]

thanks linda for the review.

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by JBanis

Thanks Linda, thats great. I will give it a go too.

I got a little confused about the difference between WPmage and CPmage. Is the main difference that with WPmage you add your own content? So its less automatic?

Hi Jan,

CP mage is a control panel you install on a domain. After you install it and input all your affiliate info, you are able to install the mage system on multiple domains. It automatically installs wordpress with multiple useful plugins and, of course, all of the mage plugins. When the install process is complete you have a site set up and ready to go. You don't really have to do anything else to it. Then, you can just go back to the CPmage and install another and another and another.

WP mage automatically installs wordpress with multiple useful plugins and, of course, all of the mage plugins on ONE domain only. The finished result is exactly like whiat CPmage does but it is for one domain.

For example, say I install cpmage on Domain-a.com. After that install is successful, I login into the cpmage site on Domain-a.com and install the wpmage system on domian-b.com, domain-c.com and domain-d.com -- all from within the Domain-a.com's CPmage program.

If, on the other hand I install WPmage on Domain-a.com I will have wpmage installed only on that domain. I cannot install it on the other three domains from the same program. I have simply installed wordpress on "mage steriods" on one domain.

Using CPmage I can install wordpress on "mage steriods" to many domains.

How long does it take you to find a niche and build a site from scratch?

You can actually build a site in minutes and populate it with thousands of articles/products ... but, that's not what I do. I guess it's a blessing/curse of my personality to do things the hard way. I sometimes take two or three days to build a site out to the point that I can walk away from it and start another. Then I always go back and tweak later. I always customize my themes and always put unique content on the front end. You don't have to do that -- it's just my way. There are others who started when I did who are making a lot more money than me ... just doing what Greg says to do.

As for finding the niche ... that's the easy part. eBay has done all the homework on that ... you just tap into their categories and you have thousands of profitable niches. Even if you use Adsense, Overstock or Amazon, you can still use the niche info you'll find freely available on eBay.

Does that help? Please let me know if I can answer any more questions. There's a lot to the mage system and it is not for everyone ... I'm just glad I found it.

Linda

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Unfortunately, the majority of the tools aren't available right now and it's unclear what the price tag will be on them. While the techniques described are good they're almost identical to what I already do. What I was looking for from this system were the automation tools and they aren't available. So, I'm somewhat disappointed with it at this point. Greg says that he'll have the tools available after November 5 so we'll see at that time.

If you're new to niche site marketing, WP Mage is a pretty good method to follow, especially for eBay EPN, Amazon and other product affiliate sites.

Well, as Greg says, this is not for everyone.

However, I don't think you have to be new to niche marketing for this to be a good product for you. I am certainly not a newbie ... started IM marketing in 1996. I've been fairly successful but I've never really had a way to make passive income.

That's why I was interested in the mage system. I've tried other programs that promised a way to create passive affiliate income but for whatever reason these didn't work for me. I can't see the future, and don't know how it will be tomorrow ... or next year ... but I can truly say this is the only affiliate income system I have ever tried that I earned from right out of the starting gate. If I gauge my finishing on my starting ... and if all things remain the same ... I will be making a substantial affiliate income this time next year.

Sure, there's a little work required to put it into action ... and there's some work to keeping it going ... but it's the most passive affiliate income I've made to date in such a short time span so I'm sold on it ... and at age 65 with almost 13 years of IM under my belt that was a pretty hard sale .

Nov. 5 isn't very far off ... Greg has said he wants only satisfied customers ... and he's happy to guarantee satisfaction so if you really want to try it out you'll not find an easier marketer to work with. That young man exudes integrity.

Linda

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by LIndaB

I'm wondering how much of the income potential is dependent on Ebay. The reason I ask is that right now it seems to be extremely hard to get accepted by them. Not sure why. I've never had any problem getting accepted by any other affiliate program, including CPA programs. Can as much be earned from Amazon and Overstock?

Linda, I am only doing eBay at this point. I understand some have had a hard time getting into the eBay system ... but it is not impossible so I'd say, bang away at their door.

Greg has an excellent free ebook on how to get accepted in ebay. You can get it here: http://www.wpmage.com/EPNApproval.pdf

Good luck,

Linda

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by admiral

thanks linda for the review.

You're very welcome!

[RisingPhoenix]

Thanks Linda for your excellent feedback on Greg's system. It is very honest and helpful.

I wanted to know though, how do you get traffic?

I can't wrap my mind around it. You post all these blog comments and then just wait for traffic to come. Is it all about buying those aged domains that Greg is talking about.

I know your extremely busy, but I'd really like to know how you get your traffic.

[AmyKay]

I'm using it and that is exactly correct. You just simply wait. No further promotion or SEO is needed. Greg says he's never built a backlink in his life. I think the trick is because my posts target such obscure longtails, that traffic is bound to come.

[dubhlinn]

looks really good.
I know if you live in Rhode Island USA, I cannot be an affiliate with amazon. Is this the case with the other programs e-bay etc?
Congrats to you Linda hope you make plenty adn the other testers.

Ps Does anybody know the final price being offered to warriors ? Is it $995 or 400 of this price?

[cowboyrob]

I believe it's $400 off that price. I'm looking at the final page right before I click pay right now, and with the warrior coupon, it's $597.00.

I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by RisingPhoenix

Thanks Linda for your excellent feedback on Greg's system. It is very honest and helpful.

I wanted to know though, how do you get traffic?

I can't wrap my mind around it. You post all these blog comments and then just wait for traffic to come. Is it all about buying those aged domains that Greg is talking about.

I know your extremely busy, but I'd really like to know how you get your traffic.

Hi RisingPhoenix,

Thanks for your kind words.

You don't really post blog comments ... just posts and products. You get almost immediate traffic because of the aged domains. You should purchase domains that have backlinks and, if possible, good PR. I like to buy older domains because they seem to have more authority. If you have 3000 blog posts indexed you will get natural, organic traffic. It just happens.

Does that help?

Linda

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by dubhlinn

looks really good.
I know if you live in Rhode Island USA, I cannot be an affiliate with amazon. Is this the case with the other programs e-bay etc?
Congrats to you Linda hope you make plenty adn the other testers.

Ps Does anybody know the final price being offered to warriors ? Is it $995 or 400 of this price?

Hi dubhlinn ...

Thanks for the congrats. I'm working on that "plenty" part!

I honestly don't know what programs would be available in your area. If I were you I'd check it out first before making any kind of purchase.

I'm not sure of the price, either. Haven't had a chance to look at the sales page.

Good luck!

Linda

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by cowboyrob

I believe it's $400 off that price. I'm looking at the final page right before I click pay right now, and with the warrior coupon, it's $597.00.

I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.

Hi cowboyrob ... are you the one who called me?

It is a lot of money and it's something only you can decide. You could try it out. Greg does have a great guarantee.

Linda

[cowboyrob]

I'm definitely leaning towards it, Linda. I'm just wondering if there's still room for me to profit from it. By the way, is there a pretty decent wealth of info in the private forum Master Mage's get access to?

And no, I'm not the one that called you. Sorry!

[Shane Dolby]

it makes money plain and simple as long as you do the work like anything else you get back what you put into it.


oh and the training is excellent and the forums have much great info
Shane
Master Mage

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by cowboyrob

I'm definitely leaning towards it, Linda. I'm just wondering if there's still room for me to profit from it. By the way, is there a pretty decent wealth of info in the private forum Master Mage's get access to?

And no, I'm not the one that called you. Sorry!

Sorry about that ... someone called me yesterday (re. wpmage) from Texas . Don't know if he was a cowboy, though.

The private forum has a lot of info about full level stuff. It's a good forum.

Always room for profit using wpmage. You have to be sure, though -- don't do it unless you are. It is a good system, but not for everyone. If you join us ... I'll see you there.

Linda

[AmyKay]

I think the forums are very full of help. This can't really be saturated, so there's no reason for us not to help each other. Greg offers a money back guarantee, so if you're hesitant, just go for it, build a ton of sites fast so that you'll know if it doesn't work for you after a month. It takes at least that long to really start to get indexed and getting good clicks.

[cowboyrob]

So, since I don't really have a site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet, I would most likely want to start with AdSense. Is anyone that either of you, or anyone else for that matter, have actually heard of doing well with AdSense and the Mage system?

[AmyKay]

I'm using adsense on several of my Mage sites, but they are too young to say if I'm "doing well."

Here are my stats so far for adsense:
Page CTR is 2.35%
Page eCPM is $8.26

Maybe others can tell me if that's good? It's not based on much data yet, though. Most of these sites are just a few days old.

I am excited to see my traffic increasing every day. And if traffic increases, so will the clicks.

[dubhlinn]

I have the same problem regarding Rob. "site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet"
Adsense not sure any thoughts guys?
Greg emailed and mentioned that e-bay shouldn't be a problem but unsure as to overstock.(for myself)


Really like to give this a go, just wish i knew that partnership with affiliate programs was a go.

[AmyKay]

I'm monetizing my sites across seven different networks. So even if you don't get into EPN, there are plenty of other ways. I think I've said this before.

[Gabbie Mills]

Originally Posted by AmyKay

I'm monetizing my sites across seven different networks. So even if you don't get into EPN, there are plenty of other ways. I think I've said this before.

It's so hard to get into EPN these days. what are some of these other networks you were referring to?

[AmyKay]

Right now, I have ads running from all of the following:

1. Markethealth
2. Adsense
3. EPN
4. Ads 4 Dough
5. AdDrive
6. Amazon
7. Clickbank

There are hundreds of places on the internet that want to place their ads on your website. Mage automatically will place EPN, Amazon and ebay. But with an extra 2 minutes of work, I am placing other alternatives, as well. Check out the CPA forum for ideas.

[Linda Van Fleet]

Originally Posted by cowboyrob

So, since I don't really have a site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet, I would most likely want to start with AdSense. Is anyone that either of you, or anyone else for that matter, have actually heard of doing well with AdSense and the Mage system?

I have the same problem regarding Rob. "site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet" Adsense not sure any thoughts guys?
Greg emailed and mentioned that e-bay shouldn't be a problem but unsure as to overstock.(for myself)

Really like to give this a go, just wish i knew that partnership with affiliate programs was a go.

Rob / Dubhlinn,

No one can promise success ... you just have to dive and make waves.

I am not an Adsense fan. I have one site (not mage) that has been earning $250+- Adsense each month ... for many years. It used to earn $1200+- per month before the Google algo change that knocked a lot of folks out of the boat. You have to have a lot of page views and a good niche to make money with Adsense.

On the other hand, Overstock, Amazon and eBay are product driven. People will find your pages because they type in a product in the search engines. When they get to your page they are likely to click on your product link because that's what brought them there. After that, it up to the affiliate site to sell them. You have done your job by providing the link.

Can you make money? YES.
WILL you make money? Yes, maybe, perhaps, hopefully ... who knows? It depends on a lot of things. Your success cannot be measured by what I, or Amy, or anyone other person using this system is doing, although it is encouraging and helpful to see what others are doing. It can be only measured against your own efforts.

But there is one thing for sure ... if you are persistent ... keep following Greg's plan of action - you have more chances than someone who just puts up a couple of sites and quits. The money will be made in the numbers. The more sites you build the more chance you have to make the money.

Greg has a great plan for success. I'm following it (customized to my personality) and I am having success. Will you have the same success? I honestly don't know. I can only tell you what I am doing.

Always keep in mind that Greg believes in his program enough to provide a guarantee. You really have nothing to lose.

Linda

[dubhlinn]

Thanks for the information linda. I think i am going to take the plunge. At work so hopefully its still a go by the time i get home.
C'mon Rob get in there..
See you on the inside

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by cowboyrob

I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.

No, it's not a good deal. You can use the same pattern of niche site building for free and you can buy automation tools that cost about 1/4 of that price.

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

No, it's not a good deal. You can use the same pattern of niche site building for free and you can buy automation tools that cost about 1/4 of that price.

Hello Sir

I wanted to say that I %100 respect your opinion, but I just need to provide some information so that people have the correct Facts to complete their investigation on this product. As it is not for everybody, but some will find it useful based on what is offered.

So these are the facts:

Like you said, you can use the same Mage Blueprint System for free.

In fact we do the Blueprint as a giveaway. It is similar to other systems, except it takes a few very DIFFERENT approaches. But no matter. It is a free giveaway that you have already read, so its out there and do as you will with it.

Re: "Automation tools at 1/4 the price" ... I have actually used most of these "automation tools at 1/4 the price" and there are actually quite a bit of free automation tools on the market. (WP-o-Matic to name one)

Also many of our current Mages have used and purchased most of these tools as well. Well the fact is that these "tools" work, but you also get what you pay for.

Meaning that they can in theory do a similar thing. But what you are getting is a piecework process where you are essentially gluing together 10 different processes to replicate a similar effect as to what the Mage does in a single click. and then you still do not know.

The fact is that there is NOTHING like the Mage on the market. I know because Automation is my life and I try everything and actually built the MAGE, not to sell, but for my own useage.

If there was a combo of tools (even using SSH and CLI) that did it with this ease, then I would have used them and never developed the MAGE.

So the fact is that you are correct, yes you can in theory piece together a similar process. However in practice, I just prefer to click a button and have a website ....though to each his own.

Respectfully
-Greg Jacobs

[twinmom]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

. Well the fact is that these "tools" work, but you also get what you pay for.

What I like about the Mage system is that I can set up a complete, ready to go site in less than an hour. And it's set for life basically, unless I want to go back and add more posts later. Now, if this site "flops" and doesn't make but a few dollars a month, okay no problem - it was just an hour.

However, the really interesting thing that I find about my Mage sites is that "they work". I have some sites that I actually built with the Mage, and then added on some other autoblogging tools (WPRobot,UAW,WPOM,etc) just to experiment. Those sites don't do nearly as well as pure Mage sites.

It's really had to wrap your mind around how the entire system works until you have tried it out.

At the moment, I'm actually testing out several different ideas with the Mage and the more I use it, the more potential I see. Even after using it for 3 months, I continue to be amazed.

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

So the fact is that you are correct, yes you can in theory piece together a similar process. However in practice, I just prefer to click a button and have a website ....though to each his own.

Sorry Greg but IMO the extremely high price for your tools isn't worth it to me based on the opportunity cost. I think you've priced yourself out of the market beyond selling to people who haven't taken the time to review their options and do a cost analysis, who lack a lot in the technical department and/or who're new and need a lot of hand holding. If that's your market, that's great, I'm sure you'll do quite well with that.

[JBanis]

Well...I am still pretty interested and have looked at some other tools. I think others do ok with a selection of other tools glued together, just like Greg says. And part of me doesnt lik to be dependent on an external system...yet...its the speed, the automation...I know for a fact that I would get distracted with details, like a good perfectionist ;-) when I'd try to set various tools up properly, it would take me quite a while. Mage seems to ''magically solve that problem (sorry, couldnt resist ;-) )

I also dont think I have much chance with being accepted by Ebay, but im heartened by the other possibilities.

Jan

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Sorry Greg but IMO the extremely high price for your tools isn't worth it to me based on the opportunity cost. I think you've priced yourself out of the market beyond selling to people who haven't taken the time to review their options and do a cost analysis, who lack a lot in the technical department and/or who're new and need a lot of hand holding. If that's your market, that's great, I'm sure you'll do quite well with that.

say all you like about me, the Mage or my prices, but please leave our userbase out of this. I will say you are %100 mistaken and have NO IDEA what you are talking about. And if you found out who some of our users are, you would probably swallow your tounge to think that you just said that about them.

Until you actually use our product or can move beyond the realm of speculation, then please leave it be, you have said your piece and it has been noted and I hope we can leave it at that.

On a more friendly note.

. You will be surprised some of the users that we do have. I have a few guys who I would say are much more advanced at automation and development than myself and they find this useful and even amazing at times.

I have one user who already makes over 100k a year setting up automated sites and he is switching all his new sites over to the Mage Platform because it saves him time.

I have other users who don't even know how to FTP and we get them started with the Point and Click Generation and they earn.

I am going to try to stay out of this thread now, unless there is compelling reason to come back. So I hope we can leave it at that.

Respectfully
-Greg

[Brian Johnson]

Hey Everyone

Interesting as I have done this quite a bit in the past and the results are staggering. The core concepts here are powerful and when put to use they can make you a lot of money, in fact during the spring and summer of 2007 I targeted this same method (and did things manually). I had great success with the idea of "piggy backing" ...

It worked incredibly well for me and over the course of six months I had built up an ebay income of about $2500 monthly and also added another 2k or so to my Adsense income.

I will be interested to see how this program rolls out, and I wish Greg luck as he rolls Mage out.

Best,

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

Also I know for a fact you have never used our complete system, so we can take partially what you say as speculation.

It is true that I am speculating but, then again, business cost analysis (aka speculating) has been part of my work for quite a number of years. As such, I tend to look at IM products with a lot more critical eye than most people do.

I'm not saying your product is bad and I could see it being a good fit for some people. I think your basic niche site building plan is good. I just think that you're way overpriced for the WP automation tool market and I don't see the extra value to justify the considerable extra cost.

[JBanis]

Originally Posted by Brian Johnson

Hey Everyone

Interesting as I have done this quite a bit in the past and the results are staggering. The core concepts here are powerful and when put to use they can make you a lot of money, in fact during the spring and summer of 2007 I targeted this same method (and did things manually). I had great success with the idea of "piggy backing" ...

It worked incredibly well for me and over the course of six months I had built up an ebay income of about $2500 monthly and also added another 2k or so to my Adsense income.

I will be interested to see how this program rolls out, and I wish Greg luck as he rolls Mage out.

Best,

Hi Brian

Could you give us an indication of how many sites you built per week/month or so, orhow many you had after six months to get to that level of income?

Jan

[Brian Johnson]

Originally Posted by JBanis

Hi Brian

Could you give us an indication of how many sites you built per week/month or so, orhow many you had after six months to get to that level of income?

Jan

Sure Jan,

My method was simple:

Find domains that were expired, based on products or services that were available at ebay. I probably worked about twenty hours a week, however note that I had a very good system down and I understood wordpress (platform of choice for me for years).

In the course of the six months I purchased about 100 expired domains, and launched about 75 sites based on those domains. Each site had just anywhere from 1 to 25 posts on them.

I hired out for unique content on some sites (after they were making me money).

I have revised this method often in the last year and a half to ensure that Google still ranks the sites high (they do when you know what type of domains to buy).

- This is not a magic bullet.
- This takes work.

The results are well worth it.

Best,

[JBanis]

Originally Posted by Brian Johnson

Sure Jan,

My method was simple:

Find domains that were expired, based on products or services that were available at ebay. I probably worked about twenty hours a week, however note that I had a very good system down and I understood wordpress (platform of choice for me for years).

In the course of the six months I purchased about 100 expired domains, and launched about 75 sites based on those domains. Each site had just anywhere from 1 to 25 posts on them.

I hired out for unique content on some sites (after they were making me money).

I have revised this method often in the last year and a half to ensure that Google still ranks the sites high (they do when you know what type of domains to buy).

- This is not a magic bullet.
- This takes work.

The results are well worth it.

Best,

Sounds good, well done. A good working system is all it takes often. It does sound like it could be well worth it. I for one would like to try such an approach. Do you have a system for keep track of all the data of all those sites? Sounds like an admin nightmare :-)
And do you have more than one server?

Thanks

J

[Brian Johnson]

Jan,

Quite honestly I would say you should jump right in and get started, yes I have systems in place to manage. I have tons of hosting simply because I have been fulltime online for years.

However, you could get started with a simple hosting plan
(hostmonster is great) and with say five sites. One thing I
see many people do is they try to look into the future and
they think what maybe or what maybe difficult.

-how would I manage?
-gosh what about hosting?
-how do I do ... blablabla

Instead your better of just thinking:

- what can I do right now today to move forward.

Worry about managing sites once you have twenty, just do it.

Get started.

Take action.

Best,

[JBanis]

Totally agree, great advice. I've been online for a bit too and do have hosting, but Im not sure how many sites per host etc...

But you're darn right about just get started, and then...follow through. 99% of people fail right there.

Thanks again

J

[Greg Jacobs]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

It is true that I am speculating but, then again, business cost analysis (aka speculating) has been part of my work for quite a number of years. As such, I tend to look at IM products with a lot more critical eye than most people do.

I'm not saying your product is bad and I could see it being a good fit for some people. I think your basic niche site building plan is good. I just think that you're way overpriced for the WP automation tool market and I don't see the extra value to justify the considerable extra cost.

Probably the root of our disagreement is that this is not a "WP Automation Tool"

How many people have used "WP Automation Tools" and never earned any significant $$. Probably many. I have used all these too and have earned some, but never enough to call it a fully earning system

The reason is that they are all piecework. It is difficult and long to bind various systems together. And there is no solid core to push people towards.

To make the money using the Blueprint you need the following things

• Fast Site Creation and Configuration
• Targeted Unique Content creation
• Tageted Affiliate listings
• Content and Affiliate listings need to be mashed up on the same page and relvent
• Massive creation of posts based on the above stipulations
• SEO Optimized and non-footprinted layouts.

Like Brian above, I used to do this manually. I had a desktop full of patchwork scripts I would actually generate text files in Linux and do SQL imports and actually did quite well. But it was ALOT of work.

What we have done is esentially taken the knowledge of how these systems work and put them together into a singular plug and play system. And it works! It really really works

Yes in theory you can do it all on your own... but it depends how you value your time.

Regarding the investment. Well, its not a $20 script. I agree with you on that front. It just comes down to being able to see the value in the Mage and do a Cost-Benefit-Analysis on whether you can save more time by using the turnkey system than you will by doing it on your own.

This can only be determined based on how you value your own time and the weight of benefit you can get from using the Mage

I can tell you that despite being about to create these sites through Linux, I use the Mage now for all my own sites.

Why?
Because my time is valuable and I know the forumla that earns and I prefer to earn rather than tinker.

So you can see, I am not really in disagreement with you, but I would recommend to stop thinking about the Mage as a "WP Automation Plugin" but more as a complete system and coursework for earning an income online. (that just happens to be based on wordpress)

hope that explanation puts us in alignment.

Respectfully
-Greg

[Freeon]

Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
That would be my first reason not to try it.
And do you have to keep paying monthly after creating your site?
That would be my second reason...
I'm not trying to bash the thread but...
I like to own what I create.
I hate a monkey on my back feeling.
IMHO