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Old 11-12-2009, 11:44 AM   #1
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Probably the best PPC to CPA on the market. Unfortunately $1,397 is way out of my price range. Anyone in?
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Hello ,anyone like to share his experience with it .I am also interested to get its review ,Besides what are the best ppc course for the cpa ??
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PPC Formula is a comprehensive treatment of CPA marketing and is very effective. It is by one of the leaders in the field. However, for those who don't wish to spend that amount of money, Zero Friction Marketing (written by one of the star performers of the PPC Formula) is also very good and is available for a fraction of the price mentioned above.

More details are available at (not an affiliate link):

Six-figure CPA income | Zero Friction Marketing | Easy copy-and-paste money system on 30 videos

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Probably the best PPC to CPA on the market. Unfortunately $1,397 is way out of my price range. Anyone in?
That is way too high man...
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PPC Formula is a comprehensive treatment of CPA marketing and is very effective. It is by one of the leaders in the field. However, for those who don't wish to spend that amount of money, Zero Friction Marketing (written by one of the star performers of the PPC Formula) is also very good and is available for a fraction of the price mentioned above.

More details are available at (not an affiliate link):

Six-figure CPA income | Zero Friction Marketing | Easy copy-and-paste money system on 30 videos

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Just looking at the sales page for ZFM, it appears that he shows us how to use MSN. Isn't MSN now Bing? So how updated is the product?

I personally haven't used either MSN nor Bing, but it seems that the advertising programs would have changed/been updated along with the search engine, therefore making ZFM old news.
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Bing was not fully released as a replacement for MSN Live Search until June 2009. Although Zero Friction Marketing was released prior to that date, and the author refers to MSN in his material, he also released a video on Bing to indicate the effect of these changes.

ZFM is about the broader concept of CPA marketing strategies and internal structural changes to search engines such as Bing/MSN are relatively minor.

You still receive templates, coaching on ad copy, keywords, dynamic text, driving traffic, getting accepted by the CPA networks, maps of the overall plan and how to structure a campaign, details of various other traffic sources, such as Myspace and Media Buys, and videos on how to implement the theory.

These are just as relevant today.

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Probably the best PPC to CPA on the market. Unfortunately $1,397 is way out of my price range. Anyone in?

I agree it's probably the best ppc course in the market but the pricing point is a little steep.

I'm a member in both ppc classroom and ppc coach so I get inside up-front ppc information from both sides comparing apples to apples

from my conclusion, ppc coach is the way to go with the first rate information from ppc experts and it's only a small monthly fee per month

WHY put up 1500k when you can get started with a small montly fee...I called that leveraging in my opinion

use the rest of the 1450 dollars for practicing live campaigns and your on your way to gaining ppc experience
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Whats is the better way to make more money using ppc or media buys ?
no experience in media buys yet

still learning to master ppc before I move on

I've been doing seo the last 6 months and learned a ton from experts here

whatever you do, focus on one traffic medium 1st till you get comfotable making money and then move on to the next traffic generator
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A valuable step before getting into media buys. There is a huge amount of traffic available from this source but it needs to be targeted and tracked properly or you will lose your shirt.

Consider that when someone visits large traffic sites such as when collecting their email at Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail or by visiting CNN, there are screen displays of ads - text, banners, etc. Do you think that Yahoo knows what demographic you are (such as age group and gender? That information allows them to charge more for better targeted traffic - demographic targeting.

They are able to sell impressions (page views) by the million, so can deliver huge amounts of traffic for relatively low cost - but may require a buying commitment of hundreds or thousands of dollars on a contract basis.

A good way to cut your teeth on it is learning to use Site Placement with Adwords' Content network. You are able to work with lower sums while learning the basics. The classic work on this is the book "Adwords 180". Whilst this is several years old and out of date in some respects, it does describe the key aspects of placement advertising with Google and the author has dropped the price to $14.95. You can read about it here (not an affiliate link):

Adwords 180!

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A valuable step before getting into media buys. There is a huge amount of traffic available from this source but it needs to be targeted and tracked properly or you will lose your shirt.

Consider that when someone visits large traffic sites such as when collecting their email at Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail or by visiting CNN, there are screen displays of ads - text, banners, etc. Do you think that Yahoo knows what demographic you are (such as age group and gender? That information allows them to charge for more better targeted traffic - demographic targeting.

They are able to sell impressions (page views) by the million, so can deliver huge amounts of traffic for relatively low cost - but may require a buying commitment of hundreds or thousands of dollars on a contract basis.

A good way to cut your teeth on it is learning to use Site Placement with Adwords' Content network. You are able to work with lower sums while learning the basics. The classic work on this is the book "Adwords 180". Whilst this is several years old and out of date in some respects, it does describe the key aspects of placement advertising with Google and the author has dropped the price to $14.95. You can read about it here (not an affiliate link):

Adwords 180!

Ivan
thanks Ivan...should I continue to do search ppc or just do site placement with google content network?

currently I'm doing cpa offers

I know people are doing well with content netwk as well so maybe I should start there but google seems to be banning affiliates left and right
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thanks Ivan...should I continue to do search ppc or just do site placement with google content network?

currently I'm doing cpa offers

I know people are doing well with content netwk as well so maybe I should start there but google seems to be banning affiliates left and right
It's possible to do well with the Content Network and I'd suggest sending traffic to your own white hat site (with privacy page, etc) as that is more likely to be well received for traffic purposes when reviewed by Google.

Although a lot of CPA affiliates like to send traffic by the most direct route to the merchant to reduce leakage (visitors not clicking thru), you might consider whether there is value in sending them first to an optin form and getting them on to your own list.

Content Network often doesn't convert well for affiliate sales but is usually fine as a source of leads and can be used for those merchants paying for leads, as well as your own list.

Other traffic suppliers (as with media buys) are not usually as fussed as Google about the destination and it's often possible to display an ad that will click thru to the merchant.

My own preference is to first get visitors on to my own list. They are then available for additional offers (including my own products) and are not just one-shot wonders. I can also use cheap traffic for this purpose.

Whether you continue to use the Search Network depends on the maths - if it is profitable it is worthwhile. The Content Network is a bit slower to get started as they approve the ads before displaying them. However, CN traffic is usually cheaper.

Budgeting for cash flow is also a consideration as you may have to pay Google before you get paid by the merchant so you have to be sure funds are available to meet the charge to your credit card. This may not be a problem when operating on a small scale but is significant when you scale up and face large credit card payments.

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It's possible to do well with the Content Network and I'd suggest sending traffic to your own white hat site (with privacy page, etc) as that is more likely to be well received for traffic purposes when reviewed by Google.

Although a lot of CPA affiliates like to send traffic by the most direct route to the merchant to reduce leakage (visitors not clicking thru), you might consider whether there is value in sending them first to an optin form and getting them on to your own list.

Content Network often doesn't convert well for affiliate sales but is usually fine as a source of leads and can be used for those merchants paying for leads, as well as your own list.

Other traffic suppliers (as with media buys) are not usually as fussed as Google about the destination and it's often possible to display an ad that will click thru to the merchant.

My own preference is to first get visitors on to my own list. They are then available for additional offers (including my own products) and are not just one-shot wonders. I can also use cheap traffic for this purpose.

Whether you continue to use the Search Network depends on the maths - if it is profitable it is worthwhile. The Content Network is a bit slower to get started as they approve the ads before displaying them. However, CN traffic is usually cheaper.

Budgeting for cash flow is also a consideration as you may have to pay Google before you get paid by the merchant so you have to be sure funds are available to meet the charge to your credit card. This may not be a problem when operating on a small scale but is significant when you scale up and face large credit card payments.

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good stuff Ivan but we are going pass on google for now because they are banning accounts left and right

have you not read the threads about content campaigns...there are some people waiting for two weeks to get approved

this is just plain ridiculous

NEWS is lot's of ppc guys are now shifting their money away from google till they get there act right!
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