static09

I was just wondering if anyone has bought and tried either of these two traffic generating systems. I was considering buying the Mass PPV Traffic System, then I found a review page from the guy who created the Money Siphon System. They both have good looking and convincing sales pages, but it's hard to tell if either one of them is worth a damn or not.

I've been on unemployment for months now so my income is very low. I can't afford to buy something that won't deliver, so that's why I wanted to get some opinions on here before I spend money that I can't afford to lose. Any help or reviews on these two products would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Sincerely, Chris Piper

static09

The one thing I did notice is that you can buy the Mass PPV Traffic for $77, but you can get a 7 day trial of the Money Siphon System for $4.95. I guess I could at least try the Money Siphon System without wasting a lot of money up front?

Slin

Neither, if you are not yet making money online I would suggest asking around on here.

You can find some simple ways to start generating an income so that later on you can buy these products.

askloz

I'm not sure one would be wasting money. I spent $100 at one CPV place, got a $25 signup bonus... just checked my Google Analytic stats and made 8 sales at $97 a piece, all I did was give a report away, sent them a long auto responder welcome email, and boom... they signed up

static09

I guess maybe I should be asking if anyone has used either of the products and if so how well they work? Any input is appreciated.

rainspeak

Thanks for posting I was curious too. I'm hearing mixed reports.

Fraserb

I've just signed up to MassPPV. I must admit I've not yet started putting the stuff into practice as I'm still watchin the videos !

From what I've seen I'm very impressed and am looking forward to putting everything into practice. MassPPV also has what appears to be a very clever tool to "swipe" names of websites to utilise as well as other well known sites - again evrything is explained in video.

It appears you can start from as little as $100 although it also talks about one site where you need a minimum bank of $1000.

On top of the MassPPV tools there are also a lot of "freebies" to help you. Again not tried to download everything yet - bit of information overload if you're not careful.

I'll keep you posted if you want.

Fraser
:-)

static09

Thanks for the post Fraserb. I was wondering what the costs are of PPV advertising. I know they keep saying it's $.01 per view, but I wasn't sure where you are going to get these views and if they have a minimum deposit or daily budget. Please keep me informed as you go along. I'm thinking I might try the Money Siphon for $4.95. If it sucks, I only wasted $5. If I order it, I'll make posts on this thread letting people know if it's good or bad.

Sumaryan85

I bought MSS while ago, very good module. But if you are just starting, I do not recommend this product.

static09

Basically I'm looking for a product to show me how PPV works and what company to use to get the most bang for your buck. In Mass PPV Traffic, they are saying you can pay as little as $.01 per view. That may or may not be true, if it is, where can I get that kind of pricing? I am familiar with CPC and Impressions, so from what I can tell this is advertising using impressions instead of CPC. I know how to do that if that is the case, so why bother buying something if it's the same as impressions, just renamed PPV? If anyone can clarify between the two for me, that would be helpful. Thanks.

Wuuki

Chris,

PPV is a term that Gauher Chaudrey (a top-performer in the PPC/PPV world) created.

The correct industry term should be CPV. Most of the CPA networks call it 'contextual' traffic but at the end of the day, it is all the same.

If you know how to search the right targets (keywords) and how to rotate offers while keeping track of all datas, PPV is a great source of traffic and conversion.

If you don't have the right tools, you can easly lose an arm and a leg! (like with any other paid traffic source)

Hope this clarify matters.

Take care,

Volker

static09

Thanks for the insight Wukki. That does clarify it a lot more for me. I would say what you described sounds a little above my head as far as knowledge goes, so I would definitely need some sort of product/system to show me the ropes. I also found another product along the same line called "PPV Riches" by JP Schoeffel. They all have such good sales pages, it's hard to tell which ones are crap, and which ones are legit. Hell, maybe all three products work well? From what I read online about PPV, you can actually target specific websites so that when someone is getting ready to hit the order now button at your competitors site, they will get a pop-up(so to speak) for your product? That sound sneaky, but sweet! Also, I read that it basically involves adware. Feel free to school me on anything on this thread. Thanks.

p2y

If you're low on cash stay away from PPV all together, unless you get lucky or have somebody hand over their campaign data it takes some cash for testing and tracking before you'll see a profit.

static09

I am low on cash just starting out. Would anyone recommend just marketing in the beginning the normal way? Web 2.0 stuff...articles, SEO, blah blah blah. I can do the normal stuff, I was just hoping that I might be able to start out with a traffic surge. Sounds like PPV works well if you have the right materials to guide you through the process, but is not something someone with no experience and very little money should try? Look forward to everyone's reply. Thanks.

static09

Also, does anyone know if the Money Siphon System utilizes the PPV model as well? I didn't really see anything on their sales page stating that they use PPV advertising so I wasn't sure.

Rubes

Hi Static09.

I have been doing some research on PPV advertising over the last couple days and have discovered that getting your ads displayed means that 'adware' must be installed on the persons computer. If you're not to familiar with adware, it's one of the most hated virus/spyware type programs that can be installed on a persons computer.

Many programs like Norton and McAfee have made millions REMOVING adware from peoples computers.

I don't think advertising through a medium that is so disliked and which can potentially cause a computer to need re-booting is such a good idea.

Just my two cents.

Wuuki

Hi Rubes,

Sorry to say but your research wasn't done very well.
As a matter of fact you are wrong.

You are mixing spyware with adware.

Spyware is not only illegal but has been added to your computer in most of the cases without informing the client. So this wasn't anything the client/user wanted to have installed. Also, in most of the cases it's hard to remove this stuff. Hence, the anti-virus programs came out with loads of software to get this problem solved.

Adware is a software where the user agree and confirm that in order to get free stuff (like playing free games, getting free wallpaper, etc) he is willing to accept a certain amount of pop-up advertising that won't exceed a certain number per day.

One click will remove this software from your computer.

As you can see, a huge difference.

Since there are so many myths about this sort of traffic, I thought of clarifying it.

Regards,

Volker

PS: As with always any traffic method, it can be used in a very positive, ethical way or you can do it wrong. Same goes for PPV.

Rubes

Thanks a lot mate, that clears things up then!

Cheers,
Rubes

Maddi

Purchased Mass PPV and about to launch my first campaign. Will keep you posted.

From the above posts I need to let you know that there are videos showing to setup your campaign and things to look out for and thing to avoid. I would be recommending traditional seo article marketing stuff if you are starting out but i see you point as I stand in the same position. Its my first product (see signature) and rather then going the conventional way (which I will be going for later) I wanted to see the conversion rates and pick up a few sales along the way. I stand in the same boat as you (very low income) so I wanna go full on once and for all and If I pick up a few sales I'll be using that money in the conventional methods and again another ppv campaign.

Another answer to one of your posts above is that You do need initial deposit (minimum $100) for these ppv networks. The only thing I'm skeptical about is that most ppv ads that I have witnessed are health/body building/weight loss or dating/adult friends/marriage networks and my product is a total opposite and relates self improvement and personal development so it really is a gamble I'm going for to see if a ppv campaign generates reasonable (if not outstanding) results on a self improvement product.

Wish me luck

I'll let you know along the way when I actually launch it and how well it goes.

Hope it helps.
Regards.

Maddi

brianm34

Static 09,
if you are going to use Mass PPV strategies then you will need a $20 a month aweber account, plus most PPV networks have a minimum balance to open account, the cheapest I have found is adon network for $20,
Good Luck,
Brian

Wuuki

This is the answer to all the questions whether you need to have some cash in order to make PPV traffic a success.

Although most people won't tell it is a fact: IF you don't have at least $20/day for testing - therefore $500-$1,000 USD/month - you should try another free traffic source.

Also, the traffic sources that will send real traffic requires a min deposit of $200 to $2,000.

Wish you success and good luck with your first own product:-)

Cheers,

Volker

kuterdan

Mass PPV is a good course and it teaches you pretty much all the basics you need to get started. If your money is very limited then I suggest not going with this opportunity right away. 1st you need to know what you're doing to minimize the money you lose. Secondly you need to put money into your campaign account before anything will run.

CPV has a min. of $100 and Media Traffic has a min. of $200 to start your campaigns

silverbax

I own both, they are different courses. One (Mass PPV) is on CPV traffic and the other is more on how to quickly build an IM list and sell to them, scaling up.

BlackTactics

The problem with PPV is that its extremely limited in terms of where you can go with it. Alot of times your advertising to the same customers multiple times which means ad-blindness and is not good for long-term campaigns.

PPC is still still in terms of cheap, quality, mass traffic. Don't let anyone try to tell you otherwise with gimmicks and hyped up products.