lonicera

Hi,
I've just received an e-mai from Ewen Chia (yes, I'm on his list too ) about a product - site building software, and it costs only 67 $.

Site Profit Bot

Does anybody know anything about it? Sounds great, but is it really ?

Doiron

Just bought it. Looks pretty good but I have a concern about the possible similarities of sites.

So far there are only three templates but they say more are coming.

They suggest using high-level keywords which also would contribute to similar sites. But it's possible that you could use long-tailed keywords to make your sites unique.

I'll find out tomorrow when I play with it a bit.

Right now, I can tell you that it looks good. There's a lot to it.

There's also a continuity program which is free for the first 30 days. Interestingly, you actually have to choose to take part in that program, rather than having it foisted upon you and then forcing you to remember to cancel.

I like that approach. It may speak well of the creator.

lonicera

Well, it sounds interesting, but I couldn't find any information about how your affiliate links get to your website ?

Is it possible to use clickbank links together with e-bay and amazon ?
is it possible to skip e-bay and use only amazon and clickbank ?

What about the domain name? You have to choose it and register yourself, or ?
What about SEO ?
How is Google ranking tese pages for the chosen keyword?
How do you get that massive traffic that is shown in the sales letter ?

GlenH

For my money the sales page is so looooong, and confusing and I got tired just trying to understand what is was all about.

Maybe that's just me though!

--Glen

Melody

One thing not on the sales page anywhere: Is the software a windows desktop app or browser based? It was difficult to tell from the videos?

Melody

JOHN_RODRIGUEZ

I just watched a video demo of this product from Eric Holmlund. It looks like there is a $297 upsell if you want a license that allows you to flip sites made with Site Profit Bot.

The video can be watched at: Site Profit Bot Review
NOTE: The affiliate link on the review page is Eric's, not mine.

I won't be picking this one up.

John

marketingstatic

I saw the same thing on Erics site its desktop application. It looks pretty good but I always cringe too at the thought of tossing in the same keyword as everyone else and getting duplicate site content and getting blocked.
It just makes me hear the voice in my head that tells me there is no short cut that works long term for making money it simply takes a bit of hard work. I personally hate looking like everyone else on the block but maybe that's why I am not filthy rich.

Melody

It looks as though WPManagerDX (Edna Melendez's software) can now do auto content WITH backdating of posts - I haven't upgraded my install in a while, so will play with the new version this weekend.

I think with WPMD, WPRobot and MarketSamurai, you could probably create sites just as quickly but with more control as to the quality - or am I missing something here?

You could also create sites for resale by simply taking out the premium WPRobot plugin and replacing it with the free components and have a blog with content that you could resell?

Melody

JOHN_RODRIGUEZ

Melody,

I agree..... I also like to have more control over the content of my site and keywords I am going after. Currently I'm using a combo of WP Robot, Slick Social Pro and Wordpress Unique.

I'm not sure that Site Profit Bot offers anything new. Cam Forbes' Niche Dominator and Automegascript Auto Mega Script Version 2 produce similiar sites.

John

lonicera

ok, I 've bought it.
my first impression - I'm not impressed.

I went for the keyword "tattoo", I have adsense and amazon ID's.

here's the result: www.tattoodrawing.org

so this is the site that should earn me money ? I don't think so... I dont even see that I'm selling anything here...
And where is the content ?

This site looks really poor.. maybe it will change over night
Further more..
I couldn't upload my site through the program, there was some kind of error repeating so I had to use Filezilla.

Once the page is up you have no possibility to enter it, or change anything, not even the theme.. for that you have to take the site down and build a new one..

Melody

Well, the fact that you cannot change anything after the fact just killed it for me. I do like having control over my sites. It may take me a whole 30 minutes to create a site but once you get familiar with Edna's system pretty much does everything, AND I have full control over my sites as well.

Plus Edna just keeps making it better and it's $97 for life time updates, and she supports the product as well.

I am not knocking the support provided by Greg or JP (in fact, JP has an excellent rep and his Niches-in-a-box program is really 'best in class') but I think with a little initial configuring to start with, you can put together a system that does the job, with a better chance at lasting for long term results - especially with Market Samurai in the mix as well.

Melody

boogieman

save yourself the $67 and learn from scratch for a few hours - this is all about long term investment. No such thing as a free lunch! Once the "google" finds these sites like BANS and other quickies - you will want to learn from scratch (or at least the old school way)!

pavionjsl

If that is the product site, save your money. How long would you spend there? As melody said using the tools she mentioned that would be 20x better. And 297.00 to flip a site. Lets get real on what value is. You buy a domain etc. you pay for the right to use a tool and then you have to pay for the right to sell your work. Really......

creativentrepreneur

Hi,

I bought Site Profit Bot yesterday and tested it out too. Here is the link to the site I created in less than a minute -

Latest News and Information on Learn Guitar

I have written a detailed review on the product on my blog (no, its not as long as JP's sales letter ... or is it?)

Check out for the link in my signature.

Hope it helps,

Andy

creativentrepreneur

Hmmm... I posed this keyword question to myself and realized that since I could add my own articles, I could add my own keywords via my article titles.

With this software I can make my niche site into a nice content aggregator and therefor attract more traffic. I use the word aggregator since this tool pulls content from new sources like news feeds, press releases, forums, videos, podcasts, etc ... not the usual places like eZine articles, Articalebase, Yahoo Answers etc ...

If you mesh your unique content with the aggregated content, your site will be very useful to the visitor ... and you will not get a duplicate content penalty ...

Site Profit Bot is almost like using Yahoo pipes to assimilate content ...

You can read my full analysis on my blog.

Hope this helps.

Andy

creativentrepreneur

Melody,

Its a Windows desktop based application ...

Andy

creativentrepreneur

Since I spent a lot of time playing around with Site profit bot, I can answer some of your questions -

1. Is it possible to use clickbank links - yes you can by adding banner ads ... you need to have the Pro membership for this ($47/month). If you don't opt for the monthly plan you can use hyperlinks in your own articles to link to any affiliate program.

2. Domain name is your own and it is hosted on your own website ...

3. Onpage SEO - not much to be desired ... title tags do not reflect the page content! Maybe JP should work on this ...

4. As a strategy, I would do the usual stuff to launch a site, keyword research, unique articles, etc. and then use this tool to aggregate additional content (similar to using Yahoo pipes), which I think this tool does a decent job of. Of course I would do the usual promo stuff I do with my sites - back-linking, bookmarking, etc. ...

The speed at which it builds the site and the content it aggregates is awesome ... like all tools, if used correctly, can be a great boon.

5. On the limitation with the templates, I would for a start target 3 niches and build multiple micro niches using the same template so that the whole niche real estate looks similar and well themed ...

Hope this helps.

Andy

creativentrepreneur

For those of you who are interested, I have posted a strategy on how to effectively use this software on my blog -

Site Profit Bot – My Strategy on How to Benefit from this Software! | InternetMarketingGateway.com

No optin required ...

Hope this helps.

Andy

kellio48

It occurred to me after watching all the videos on the sales page, that the site created in the demo was done so around a single keyword.

We all know that people rarely type a single keyword into a search engine.

So I'm wondering if it still works using keyword phrases and long tail keywords as a basis to generate a site. For example, " how to win at gambling in poker".

Would it create a site around the keyword "poker' or around "gambling" or indeed around "win" ??

creativentrepreneur

From what I understand (and guess - since there is no way to validate this) Profit Bot taps into social media tags to put together the most popular keywords in any given niche, and displays up to 20 related keywords for your niche.

IMHO , you can further strengthen your website authority in your niche by adding your own articles that are optimized for other traffic long tail keywords, based on your own keyword research.

Hope this helps ...

Andy

boogieman

alternatives to SPB can be: Site Builder elite or EZ Niche Builder if you want some quicky site builders!

papeter

Other alternatives would be Firepow2 and WPMAge which are much more expensive but have many more templates.

kellio48

While I agree with your assumption, it still doesn't clarify whether or not you can build a site by entering a phrase rather then a single word.

Using the example I set before.... if someone wanted a site on gambling but wanted several ways in which to gamble, say poker, horse racing and lotto, I wonder what the result would be??

jury

How did you get this Site Profit Bot to run? For me it says CLR error: 80004005. The program will now terminate. I already removed XP SP3.. thanks for a help

creativentrepreneur

Hi Jury,

The quickest way to resolve this is to contact JP's support desk.

Andy

jury

I have done this and this XP SP3 removing was their tip. I just want to know do you have any problems to run it in XP?

creativentrepreneur

Hi Jury,

I'm on Vista so am not able to provide you with a solution ... however why don't you try this ... install SiteProfitBot in any other folder other than the default Programs folder and see if it works ... I did it once with a program that would not work on Vista and this approach solved it for me ... don't ask me why though

Hope this helps.

Andy

creativentrepreneur

Hi,

From what I've seen happen, you need to enter a NICHE keyword or key phrase ... (not a long tail or micro niche keyword since the returned results would be less/narrow) ... SPB fetches relevant content relative to the niche ...

In the test site I set up, I used the keyword 'learn guitar' ... SPB went out and fetched all content and keywords related to 'learning guitar'. You can check out the site - Latest News and Information on Learn Guitar ... if you click on the 'Popular Tags' tab in the featured box you will see the list of keywords SPB collected ... and the whole site is themed around learning guitars.

If you click on the 'Blog' section you will see the articles I input there in addition to some related content SPB pulled from the blogsphere ...

Like I mentioned in my strategy piece on how to best use the software on my blog (see my signature below), here is where you can create content on the site based on your own unique content and built around long tail or other high-traffic-low-competition keywords that will help with the overall ranking of your website in the chosen niche ...

Hope I have been able to address your questions ...

Andy

Melody

Andy - but all of the content pulled from the forums is totally off topic - one is even about a planned attack on a planned parenthood abortion clinic.

Can you remove such posts or are they 'stuck' on your site?

Melody

creativentrepreneur

Hi Melody,

Yes I see it ... thanks for bringing it to my attention ... have to report it to JP's helpdesk ...

I believe we could flush out the content by clearing out the cache ... haven't tried it out though ...

Andy

cheeze69

After reading some of the comments here and more importantly, seeing the resulting sites generated by SPB, I'm gonna skip it. The sites just weren't impressive and the duplicate content thing worries me.

I think Melody's idea (below) is probably good. It's a bit more expensive, but ultimately, you have more flexibility and you're not tied to some pre-compiled Windows program that you cannot modify or customize.

Thanks for the input on SPB everyone.

boogieman

Just got the email from an internet marketer about the new product called "AUTO PROFIT LAUNCHER" - sounds like another site builder that is coming out 1st week of Dec. ...........................now we can start all over again!

creativentrepreneur

That's good news ... I'm just getting warmed up

Andy

cjseven

I've been also receiving emails promoting this product SPB. From what I see I don't like it:

1- Big and confusing sales page;
2- No link to demo sites (at least I didn't find it)
3- Sites created (found in this thread) are disappointing

I can not understand how a 10 page site can dominate SEs or get good positions on SERPs competing with hundreds of wordpress blogs with hundreds pages.

From my point of view it could be a nice tool to park domains and... nothing else. At least as a "30 second builder".

If we use it to display PLR and unique articles it could be better but if that is the case why should we replace wordpress (free, extensible and SE friendly)?

I'm also disappointed with "my" referrers. "Big dog" gurus mailing their lists (where I'm included) about this product, offering big bonus and saying this is great...

Result: Bad move. They lose one subscriber and my trust.

Richard Crooke

This is such a great forum with lots of informative feedback. This SPB product caught my eye as I am vacation in Disney Orlando. I have Master Mage program, somewhat complicated, but produces a good product after the site is set up.

I always go back to if its easy to set up (e.g. 30 seconds), it may be to good to be true or profitable. This could be a good practice program for the novice. I received an interesting email from another marketer (starts with a "H") with a video telling us not to purchase the SPB. I have never received this type of email before. This markerter said JP (of SPB) does produce good products, but that SPB was not one he recommended.

As some commented above, I didn't like the longgggggggggggg sales page and don't like the surprise needed upsells. With that said, buy it and try for the novice, then return it within 60 days it not getting traffic and sales.

Richard

creativentrepreneur

Hi webmind,

In all honesty Site Profit Bot built the learn guitar site in under a minute. I described the steps/process on my blog.

I would like to reiterate - Site Profit Bot built the site in under a minute ... the exact same site you see online ... NOT ME!

The reason why I stress on the above is because I want to make it clear that I would not build a money website in under a minute and expect it to generate income for me on auto pilot.

Here is why ...

I take typically 8-10 hours to build a money website... here is the break up of the typical time spent -

a) 2-4 hours in market and keyword research,
b) 4 hours coming up with unique and keyword optimized content,
c) 2 hours in building the site and adding secondary content.

With Site Profit Bot, the last 2 hours is reduced to 30 seconds …

After the above is done I start my website promotion activities which is can take at least another couple of hours and spread across a few days.

In the past few days I have been evaluating a number of these auto content generating software tools. Based on the reviews I posted on my blog I have been getting a volley of questions on these type of applications. I have noted that there are a number of misconceptions on these applications. The biggest misconception is that you can use these auto content generating tools to put up a money site in a few seconds/minutes and start expecting money to roll in the front door. WRONG!

If you are expecting a quick-fix-get-rich-quick-tool ... sorry to disappoint you - IT DOES NOT EXIST!

Internet marketing is a business … you need to have a plan and the right tools to execute your plan. Once you have this in place, you will make money.

Think like a farmer – Sow before you reap ... and you reap what you sow!


Continuing on the farmer analogy, you need to take time and effort to -

- PLAN where you want to plant the seed for your money tree (market research)
- FIND the right tree to plant (keyword research)
- PREPARE the land for a healthy tree to grow (unique content creation and keyword optimization)
- PLANT the seed (build your website)
- NURTURE and GROW your money tree (promote your website and generate traffic)

The farmer uses different tools/equipment for each step of the process - there is no 1 tools does it all!

Hope this helps,

Andy

creativentrepreneur

Continuing on the above thread ... the other myth is that you can make a ton of money by simply building these 30-second sites and having listing of eBay, Amazon, Adsense, etc. on it. The fact is, you will make some money per site, but not a lot.

The truth is that it takes more effort than that ... I think of these affiliate listings as side servings ... peripheral income.

Your niche site needs to focus on a few carefully chosen products and you need to spend the time and effort to understand the products that you intend to promote ... so that you are able to offer some value to the visitor who comes to your site looking for a solution.

A significant part of the time I spend on research is in researching the product(s) I promote ...

Do this and the time/effort spent will pay off and you will see more consistent income from your Internet marketing efforts as well as return visitors. Otherwise its simple a matter of hit-or-miss.

Andy

darrylzide

New to the Warrior Forum, so excuse if I post this wrong. What does this program do and it's benifits? I have several Business Opportunity Websites and looking to boost rankings in search directories, links, etc. Please tell me more about this program.

Thanks!

mashburn

don't bother with this it's not worth the money.

Ralph Morton

Hi there

Tell you the truth, I am excited about this program.

There is so much potential in it. However, like te daily grind you have to work. Take yor choice drive to work each day or......... I want the or.

I have 7 niches that are set upo to go, BUT I have a problem. You must have yours working in order to build your site however my Creative niche builder link is not allowing me to click on the items I need to build my site. I need to know how to make it work.

If you want to email direct I would appreciate it. I know this program has fantastic potential and I want some.

Ralph Morton

joannabenz

Melody, could you compare your solution to Firepow for us?

Thanks,

creativentrepreneur

It will be helpful to all on this thread if you can explain why ...

Andy

creativentrepreneur

Hi Ralph,

You can PM me your questions and I will do my best to help you ... or go to my blog and post your question there ...

All the best,

Andy

creativentrepreneur

Hi webmind,

Thanks for the feedback ... if the site did not look credible or met my personal quality standards, I would not have put it up and written a word recommending the product. As a matter of fact I did not do anything different in generating the site than the demo video shown on JP's site. It worked the way they showed it works.

Regarding your question on how to rank on Google ... its a process you follow ... and the key to it all is market and keyword research ... you have to keep digging until you find a niche that has -

a) high traffic
b) low-to-medium competition
c) high commercial value and
d) the most important element - good products (from an earnings and market standpoint) to promote, ....

Once you get that niche and collect all the associated theme keywords then its about writing up content keeping in mind -

a) the article title (has to have your keyword in it),
b) article theming (some refer to it as LSI),
c) keyword density and
d) tags ...

If you get this right, then its good enough to write a single article per keyword ... but it doesn't stop here ... you need to promote these specially targeted keyword articles on your site by pinging, social bookmarking etc...

If you do this right you can be surprised at the results ... I have got page 1 rankings of my posted articles within minutes of publishing in the chosen niche ... many times with hardly doing any promotion.

The key is also to track your page ranking for the keywords. I use Market Samurai for tracking.

Regarding how many keywords would you target for a niche site? ... the simple answer is it depends on the niche and the extent of your keyword research...

Feel free to PM me any questions or post them on this forum or on my blog ... I will do my best to guide you ...

Wish you all the very best.

Andy

JETSGIRL

Hello everyone! I am so thankful for this forum! I have been wanting to purchase the site bot myself & wanted to find out the downside of the software & was having trouble finding anything but good reviews.. I surely didnt expect to find anyone with sample sites yet as its still fairly fresh to the market, I am completely blown away from what this product does in such little time! Being huge on Social Media I think that is such an added bonus as everything moves forward to real time in the internet world, people will stay on your pages longer. Also Id like to point out everything opens up in your site, not off site. Theres PLENTY of opp to advertize your own products, I dont see why ppl are thinking theres not. You can replace the adsense/ebay/amazon ads with your own as well as pop overs,peel ads etc.. on top of text linking and do all the tracking & split testing for you. They take the initial work out for us so we can focus on our campaigns & driving traffic. Only thing Im left wondering is about naming the site, Can we not name it whatever we want or is it always the keyword we submit? Jewelery, play guitar,etc.. Im not getting that part i suppose.

Doiron

For whatever it's worth - Someone was asking about using long-tailed keywords. I built a few sites today and two of them were (semi) long-tailed. It seemed to work with them although it's possible that the two-word phrases I used fit together well enough that they each brought in similar posts.

More experimentation is necessary (I say in my best Dr. Frankenstein voice) but I have a good feeling that it works.

I'm wondering about the Amazon affiliate aspect though. The software only asks for your Amazon ID, not for the AWS Key or Secret Key.

Can some technical whiz out there tell me how that can work? Doesn't Amazon require those two impossible-to-remember numbers?

JETSGIRL

Very very good way of summing it up, thank you so much! I landed here then very quickly started to worry with concerns after what I was reading.. this didnt work that wasnt functioning etc.. Ive been researching this since Ewen's email came in debating & not wanting to let a good thing get away on me here by spending too much time deliberating, I hate this phase & the feelings it brings lol. So, everything worked out for you np with the installation, great. I have vista too. Now, unfortunately this software does NOT do the market research for us, lol we do still have responsibility to pick our own niches, but thats a good thing to be in control over Id think..Try finding something within the 0-10,000 mark with 1000+ searches (I know, I know..) that would be optimal! -no that would be a small miracle lol but they DO exist.. look at the possibilities here, how many we can churn out & just focus on the campaigns..
Thank you so much for sharing your site, once I seen that I felt better. Im still not liking the templates, hoping they get nicer, I wonder if we can sumbit our own custom code for them I think I seen something about that Im going to check back.
Thanx again.

Doiron

Hey Uncle Don - this whole internet marketing business is a mine field. There always seems to be something popping up to stop us in our useful endeavours.

Have you filled in all of the required fields in the Site Profit Bot process? If something went wrong there you wouldn't get your finished site, probably just a screen with the word index on it and a few other non-useful tidbits.

How long before you built the site did you buy the domain? And did you buy it through your host or something like GoDaddy or NameCheap?

If you bought it through one of those it usually takes a little while - a few hours to a couple of days - to find its way home to your host. If that's the case, try again tomorrow.

If that's not it, you may have entered some info incorrectly in Site Profit Bot, although I think it gives warnings.

At any rate, I'd guess, if it's not a temporary domain problem you might want to take another look at the Site Profit Bot screen with the phrase "You're almost done. Simply click the Generate Power Site button ... " near the top.

Where it asks for Server, Type in ftp.domainname.com or whatever - don't add www before the name.

Username is the name your host gave you when you signed up with them and the Password is whatever you chose for your website.

Where it says Path, that's where you type in the "full path to the folder of your site install" which is s fancy way of saying, type in "public_html/domainname" without the quotes and without the .com or .net or whatever you have, and where domainname is whatever domain you registered.

Then, of course, click on Generate website and then Upload Website, and Bob's your uncle.

I apologize if I missed your point and gave you information that you already had but you never know what can go wrong with this stuff.

eugenekoong

At last I found a review of SPB, I think I would skip this after reading all the review and what I dun like is there dun even have sample site in the long sales letter..... no doubt JP has a good reputation all this while and I have bought his product and I am still making money (adsense) with the site even I have not touched it for 2 years.

myyoulo

Eeeh ???.........the sites generated looks like crap and are a lot out of topic. Just like the niches in a box crap and niche video site builder by JP. I have spent hours (more than a year) and a lot of $ on JP´s products.

Here is one of the sites that continually breaks down (for everyone who have one or hundred videosites setup with his "nice" video site builder script). I am showing my sites so you might see a pattern that they break down even if you leave them untouched (later with my niches in a box site, and I paid for installation).

OK, I AM NOT ALLOWED TO POST LINKS IN POSTS YET, BUT WHERE VIDEO THUMBS WAS THERE IS NOW EMPTY SPACES.

All my island video sites is like this and all other niche video websites his "wonderful" script generates/poops out. And I am very excited waiting for a solution in the forum for this so I can go in and copy paste code into ALL my video sites (And he let me do it more than once a year too . Yes,yes,yes.... He has such a good rep lol....... Yes because he convince people of it (not the products)......but products isnt valuable.

And what about niches in a box ? Here is one of my sites that were just fine before.
Click at one of the mini sites on first page:

OK, I AM NOT ALLOWED TO POST LINKS IN POSTS YET, BUT ALL ARTICLES ARE GONE, INVISABLE (REMEMBER THAT I PAID FOR INSTALLATION).

How is this site ? I paid $40 for installation..... Thumbs up !!!
Same with this one:

OK AGAIN, I AM NOT ALLOWED TO POST LINKS IN POSTS YET, BUT ALL ARTICLES ARE GONE, INVISABLE (REMEMBER THAT I PAID FOR INSTALLATION !! : ) ).

Inside niches in a box I was told that I had to "rewrite all the 300 articles, there is just no way around that" !!! It was a member webinar, a member who has been successful. Eeeh.....readymade site for you....eeeeh. Then there was also a service where they could change the whole site into a unique blog theme, I think it was for about $300 for the first site and then a lower fee for all other sites if I use the same theme. That I find on the inside and support said "that the search engines changed, about 4 months ago, so you need to get it changed into a unique blog theme"

Also a lot of the Niches is actually in very high competition and not at all possible for you and me to really get in. I researched the subject keywords on a few of the 15 mini sites on my niches in a box site. Result was that the keywords were to competitive and those that was even close to be worth competing for were weird/not related. Same on all the niches released by JP.

I have also been told by JP himself something like this: "I should not be focusing on google because they keep changing the rankings and rules......so dont think much of them, use social sites instead and such....."

Of course there is some truth to this, BUT it would be a big mistake to think you cant follow some basics and succeed with Search Engine marketing in google. Google is trying to keep searches and sites they show being of value, some quality. If you use Copyscape you can check if there is any site that has the same content as yours. I did, and there was a lot of Niches in a box sites with the exact same articles.....oh yeah I forgot.......I have to rewrite the 300 articles that are included every month.... Now they arent even visable...


Learn basic golden rules and avoid crap products like this that waste your time and money:
There is 3 golden Rule videos in Youtube showing Market Samurai and it tells a lot more then only keyword research. (I AM NOT ALLOWED TO POST LINKS HERE YET).

(Market Samurai dont have any affiliate program yet, but they give you the keyword research module for free (after the trial) and that is not a small thing)

Mike