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Hey guys, has anyone purchased the TriFilliate PayDay System from Jani G, and if so what are your 1st impressions on this money making system?

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Kerron
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  • Profile picture of the author webdesk
    Yes, I got in on the early 20, but the member site is not quite complete yet. Jani has the promised modules available, but the videos still say they will be available in the next 24 - 48 hours, so it is too soon for me to give a really fair impression. For the cost of the program, I know I will get MY money's worth, but I am not at any substantial IM income level yet, being 6 months in, and really only just poking and feeling around a bit. I only have one fully functioning web site (2 more in the works).

    In that time though, I've developed quite an undertanding of most of what it takes, and he does has one slant (somewhat obvious once you see it) that others have not stressed that makes the program unique. What got me to sign up was the payment plan from his pitch. Since he targets the inexperienced on his sales pages, I fit right into the demographics.

    My first impression is that I made a good purchase, but I'm only a couple of hours into his program - the most anyone could be - he just launched and will closing soon too.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    It sounded like it could be a great program for anyone, but I wasn't convinced enough to actually buy it. I wonder if he will really limit the copies sold to 100 or thereabouts or if it's just a sales tactic. Well, he's a member here so maybe he can come enlighten us!
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    • Profile picture of the author lonicera
      hi,
      of course jani will not limit the copies to only 100 sold, don't be silly
      It's just to speed up sales a little bit.

      I got the system yesterday too, convinced that it is newbie friendly (which I am), but I must admit after going quickly through the course - I am not sure that a complete newbie will be able to do all the things he teaches.

      For example, he made an interview with George Brown before the Google Sniper launched, and that interview later made his big list... Well, that is not a problem when George Brown is your friend And when most of the marketers that launch products know you or you know them..

      Then, there is the language... most marketers are from USA and Uk, and they are native english speakers... well I can write in english pretty good, but speaking in a microphone or recording videos could be a little problem..
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      • Profile picture of the author JaniG
        Originally Posted by lonicera View Post

        hi,
        of course jani will not limit the copies to only 100 sold, don't be silly
        It's just to speed up sales a little bit.

        I got the system yesterday too, convinced that it is newbie friendly (which I am), but I must admit after going quickly through the course - I am not sure that a complete newbie will be able to do all the things he teaches.

        For example, he made an interview with George Brown before the Google Sniper launched, and that interview later made his big list... Well, that is not a problem when George Brown is your friend And when most of the marketers that launch products know you or you know them..

        Then, there is the language... most marketers are from USA and Uk, and they are native english speakers... well I can write in english pretty good, but speaking in a microphone or recording videos could be a little problem..
        Hi there,

        its not a slaes tactic

        as soon as a number of copies go, it may close down the site

        but so far i want to give those the chance to get the course

        hope you are enjoying it so far!

        thanks

        Jani
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      • Profile picture of the author JaniG
        Originally Posted by lonicera View Post

        hi,
        of course jani will not limit the copies to only 100 sold, don't be silly
        It's just to speed up sales a little bit.

        I got the system yesterday too, convinced that it is newbie friendly (which I am), but I must admit after going quickly through the course - I am not sure that a complete newbie will be able to do all the things he teaches.

        For example, he made an interview with George Brown before the Google Sniper launched, and that interview later made his big list... Well, that is not a problem when George Brown is your friend And when most of the marketers that launch products know you or you know them..

        Then, there is the language... most marketers are from USA and Uk, and they are native english speakers... well I can write in english pretty good, but speaking in a microphone or recording videos could be a little problem..
        you talk as if you have applied the techniques

        when you read the course there are many more ways then what you have just talked about

        so i think you need to start taking action and apply what i have tought instead of talking and not doing anything

        thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Since I got on to Jani G's list from when he helped with that launch, I think I may know just about how to do the system without buying it, ha ha.

    Ya...I think I won't buy this but I have to admit it does look good, and sounds like it is living up to your idea at least somewhat.

    Hope you do well with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    I got that yesterday,its obviously not for everyone as claimed in sales pitch,as said above,this system involves interviewing the owner of product,building lists etc.

    Infact similar product has been released by other well known guru few months back.
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    • Profile picture of the author lonicera
      usually a product launch should be prepared for at least few weeks.
      when it finally launches, in my humble opinion everything should be ready...

      and in the trifilliate payday members area there are still no videos, and no bonuses.
      I've read the manual, and would like to see the videos now..

      This is a huge minus for Jani although everything he did so far with the pre-launch was great.
      How could he launch an unfinished product ?
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    • Profile picture of the author kerron.a
      Originally Posted by John34 View Post

      I got that yesterday,its obviously not for everyone as claimed in sales pitch,as said above,this system involves interviewing the owner of product,building lists etc.

      Infact similar product has been released by other well known guru few months back.

      Won't the owner of the product think it funny if he suddenly got bombarded with calls or messages for an interview with him...I mean in the beginning the owner would think it's great to get expsure, but won't he become skeptical after a while?
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      • Profile picture of the author John34
        Originally Posted by kerron.a View Post

        Won't the owner of the product think it funny if he suddenly got bombarded with calls or messages for an interview with him...I mean in the beginning the owner would think it's great to get expsure, but won't he become skeptical after a while?
        Exactly my point, i was expecting some good info from this but still after 24 hours videos are not up,this is first time i have seen product launch with no product,he could have delayed a lauch.I just submitted ticket for refund and unsubscribed from his list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
    I didnt buy it. Jani is a friend of mine. He told me how to do it and it works. I never done affiliate marketing before and I made $200 on my first try using this technique. Not much but I hardly tried and I only used one of the methods he states on his course.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gee S
      I've got this and it's pretty cool. It can work, there's no doubt in my mind about that. Now albeit you may not make 10k the first time you do this, but I think you can achieve this within a few months without any problems.

      Now there are many ways you can use the system. You can also use it in different niches which i think may have been overlooked. Whether only 100 copies are sold I don't know, I personally thought with the hype around the product the 100 would have already gone by now.

      It's cool that Jani also offers phone support. Now for people in the US, this may not be that advantageous, but for people in the UK it can definitely be helpful.

      Pretty good product. It's simple, and won't take many hours of work to implement, although you need two weeks minimum for everything to play out.

      Not too bothered about the bonuses, as it may prove to be a bit of a distraction to the course but I would like to see the video's, hopefully it will have content in there not already explained in the pdf.

      Overall, I think it's well put together, and explains everything. With this information and some creativity it can work. But it's all about taking action.

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  • Profile picture of the author margotoliver
    I purchased the Triffiliate Payday, it's pretty easy to follow and looks at another aspect of Internet Marketing,which I thought would be worth a try. I think I was one of the first 20 who got a look at it early, but it is frustrating not being able to view the videos, his videos aren't that good any way, he's not organised. But there is a bit of work you can do without the videos. I think it will be a worth while investment.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Bit surprising, really, I thought he'd have everything ready judging for the pre-launch.

    Glad I didn't buy it, then.
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  • Profile picture of the author lonicera
    one more thing that is not "newbie friendly": he doesn't explain how to make the squeeze page (maybe he will in the videos) and doesn't tell you one word about autoresponders. should a newbie without a mailing list already know how to build a squeeze page and set up autoresponder service?
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint
    First impressions:

    This method works but not like the copy or e-book will lead you to believe.....

    Numbers are extremely exaggerated (Tested and Proven to be)
    Sales copy is untruthful (Things do not mach up)
    After perches on the 9th the product was not completed. (First time this has ever happen to me with a perches)
    No support (remember what I told you about the ales copy)

    Remember he is just starting out, he is trying to make a name for himself and it can be tough all while making a living.

    Good luck to Him and You.

    Hope to see some good things from everyone.

    This is just my opinion hope it helps.

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  • Profile picture of the author JaniG
    Thanks for all your honest comments guys

    here are the answers to your questions:

    1 - i said i am limiting to 100 copies, but will i really shut the site down ?


    A - YES

    i am going to keep my word.

    Rite now i am letting those get access to it who didnt get a chance on Launch day. But rest assured that once a certain number of copies go, i will shut the site down.,

    2 - WHen will the videos be ready ?

    They should be up by the end of today

    i have bene traveling for the past 4 days and had limited internet access, but i am here in Singapore now and working hard to upload all of the step by step videos for you NOW, so look out for an email from me if you are a member...

    3 - Support contact details

    if you purchased then you also get phone support and email support.

    You should get an email with all my PERSONAL contact details soon

    Remember, i just got to singapore, so will have a new phone number etc.. so watch out for more info on that VERY soon

    But it seems like everyone is happy with the information so far in the main blueprint...

    Thanks alot guys and let me know if you have any questions

    Thanks

    Jani
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    • Profile picture of the author Gee S
      Originally Posted by JaniG View Post


      3 - Support contact details

      if you purchased then you also get phone support and email support.

      You should get an email with all my PERSONAL contact details soon

      Remember, i just got to singapore, so will have a new phone number etc.. so watch out for more info on that VERY soon

      But it seems like everyone is happy with the information so far in the main blueprint...

      Thanks alot guys and let me know if you have any questions

      Thanks

      Jani

      Hey Jani,

      Will we get your contact details for when you are in the UK?
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    • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
      Originally Posted by JaniG View Post

      Thanks for all your honest comments guys

      here are the answers to your questions:

      1 - i said i am limiting to 100 copies, but will i really shut the site down ?


      A - YES

      i am going to keep my word.

      Rite now i am letting those get access to it who didnt get a chance on Launch day. But rest assured that once a certain number of copies go, i will shut the site down.,
      I am not convinced Jani, It's a great product and a great launch however this system is not going to work for the number of people you have sold it to.

      Your affiliate newsletter states that you did 41K in the prelaunch and 80K on the first day of sales. I guess those figures are wrong as if you were only limiting it to 100 people with a total figure of say £300 (rounded up for simplicitys sake including the upsell) then your total sales would be £30,000.

      As you stated in your videos you were reluctant to sell it as you thought it would decrease the validity of the method. I think that is a correct statement and I don't in all honesty think I can recommend it.

      Serves me right for not insisting on a preview of the system before setting up a domain. Still it was the first time I have done a review site like that and it was an interesting experience.

      I would be tempted to save your money on this unless you want the bonuses that people are offering. Buy 11k in Four Hours instead if you want to see details of the method and read between the lines and you will soon see what Trifilliate Payday is all about. You will also get some useful information on product launches in that. (It's a bonus with Trifilliate Payday so if you desperately want Trifilliate Payday then Janis other producs as bonuses are probably worthwhile depending on where you are in the IM learning curve).

      Finally congratulations on an impeccable launch. Pretty much spot on I thik!
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      • Profile picture of the author lonicera
        The product is good there is no doubt, in that, but I'm wondering how many people who actually bought it will follow it step-by-step and implement the techniques?

        What kind of response should we expect when for example, 10 people choose the same product launch, and there are 10 WSO for the same product here at the forum? or even more ? And on the other forums he mentioned?

        It is by now obvious that much more copies then 100 were sold, it will be interesting when we all start doing exactly the same thing for the same products
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      • Profile picture of the author Gee S
        Originally Posted by justinw View Post


        Your affiliate newsletter states that you did 90K in the presale and 80K on the first day of sales. I guess those figures are wrong as if you were only limiting it to 100 people with a total figure of say £300 (rounded up for simplicitys sake including the upsell) then your total sales would be £30,000.
        You can't be serious? The product only sells for $97. If nobody purchased the OTO then that would be over 1700 copies sold. If everyone purchased the OTO it would be around 850 copies.

        I'll wait for Jani to confirm that before jumping to conclusions.

        That can't be right though.
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        • Profile picture of the author lonicera
          It would be nice if we could hear the story from Chris "the newbie student" who did it and made a lot of money... he should be here at the forum, as he had to place the WSO.

          who did he interview?
          what was the launch he participated in?
          did he do a live webinar before the launch?
          how big is his list?

          or is Chris just a fake Sniper character?
          Question for Jani: where is Chris, your student?
          Send him over, let him explain how a total newbie who has no name and reputation here on the forum, and no friends that are launching the product...how such a guy managed to make 9000 $ on a launch.

          I'm really interested to see his WSO, squeeze pages etc...
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post

          You can't be serious? The product only sells for $97. If nobody purchased the OTO then that would be over 1700 copies sold. If everyone purchased the OTO it would be around 850 copies.

          I'll wait for Jani to confirm that before jumping to conclusions.
          If this is true, then everyone who bought should request a refund. I know I would. Luckily, I didn't buy.
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      • Profile picture of the author JaniG
        Originally Posted by justinw View Post

        I am not convinced Jani, It's a great product and a great launch however this system is not going to work for the number of people you have sold it to.

        Your affiliate newsletter states that you did 41K in the prelaunch and 80K on the first day of sales. I guess those figures are wrong as if you were only limiting it to 100 people with a total figure of say £300 (rounded up for simplicitys sake including the upsell) then your total sales would be £30,000.

        As you stated in your videos you were reluctant to sell it as you thought it would decrease the validity of the method. I think that is a correct statement and I don't in all honesty think I can recommend it.

        Serves me right for not insisting on a preview of the system before setting up a domain. Still it was the first time I have done a review site like that and it was an interesting experience.

        I would be tempted to save your money on this unless you want the bonuses that people are offering. Buy 11k in Four Hours instead if you want to see details of the method and read between the lines and you will soon see what Trifilliate Payday is all about. You will also get some useful information on product launches in that. (It's a bonus with Trifilliate Payday so if you desperately want Trifilliate Payday then Janis other producs as bonuses are probably worthwhile depending on where you are in the IM learning curve).

        Finally congratulations on an impeccable launch. Pretty much spot on I thik!
        ????

        the $11k in 4 hours report is a COMPLETELY different product... so why would you say to buy that instead ?

        Looks like INTERNET MARKETING is NOT for you by what you have just said...

        who in the world gives you the right to say it wont work for people ?

        have you even tried it?

        i bet you haven't

        Like i said, this site will be shut down Thursday 17th

        Call my bluff why dont yoU!

        if you are the affiliate newsletter and you start telling people about the amount of sales, then why are you even on the affiliate newsletter ?

        If you are this kind of person who just talks trash about other peoples launches then why are you even in Internet Marketing ?

        You talk like you know it all

        if you know it all then start taking action and stop wasting time talking trash in forums about other people..

        if you are in the internet marketing community and even signed up as an afifliate, then why are you even saying things like this. ?

        anyway, i hope people dont read your comment and beleive a person like you who is clearly in no position to say anything
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        • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
          Originally Posted by JaniG View Post

          ????

          the $11k in 4 hours report is a COMPLETELY different product... so why would you say to buy that instead ?

          Looks like INTERNET MARKETING is NOT for you by what you have just said...

          who in the world gives you the right to say it wont work for people ?

          have you even tried it?

          i bet you haven't

          Like i said, this site will be shut down Thursday 17th

          Call my bluff why dont yoU!

          if you are the affiliate newsletter and you start telling people about the amount of sales, then why are you even on the affiliate newsletter ?

          If you are this kind of person who just talks trash about other peoples launches then why are you even in Internet Marketing ?

          You talk like you know it all

          if you know it all then start taking action and stop wasting time talking trash in forums about other people..

          if you are in the internet marketing community and even signed up as an afifliate, then why are you even saying things like this. ?

          anyway, i hope people dont read your comment and beleive a person like you who is clearly in no position to say anything
          Jani, I don't want to get into a slanging match with you. Trifilliate Payday is a clever concept for which I signed up to become an affiliate. I did so because I bought another one of your products and thought it was a great product. I was therefore expecting another great product from you. However after reading the affiliate newsletter and seeing how many people had bought the product I decided that it was one I felt unethically able to recommend.

          For the following 2 main reasons:
          • You said it would be limited to a certain number and indeed said in your launch videos that it would work only for a limited number of people. For whatever reason you sold it to far more people than you said you would, I expect to keep your affiliates happy.
          • I believe it is overpriced at $97. For $197 it will definitely be overpriced.
          For what it is worth I have never once trashed your launch. All along I have said it was an incredibly impressive launch and I have said both here and on my trifilliate review blog that if I have a suitable product then I would be very inclined to hire you to manage the launch for you. I have also said that you seem like a great guy.

          I recommended people bought your 11K in 4 hours as it espoused the same method of list building as you talked about in Trifilliate Payday. Furthermore if you bought that and watched the launch videos for Trifilliate Payday then you would effectively have the Trifilliate Payday system.

          Whether or not I am a succesful Affiliate marketer has no bearing on my rights to recommend or not your product. For what it is worth I am new to affiliate marketing and online marketing but have had various other succesful businesses in the past. I am always on the look out for great products to recommend to my small but growing list. Of late I have recommended Mark Dulisse's IM Niche Formula which heavily overdelivers.

          I will only recommend products that I believe are great value for money, not just to enrich my pockets. Sadly I did not believe Trifilliate Payday to be such a product.

          I have no need to call your bluff. I have already bought the product, written a review of it and asked for a refund, which incidentally I am still waiting for.

          Apologies for sounding harsh and I am sorry that you believe I have broken some kind of affiliate code for revealing what was in your affiliate newsletters.

          I wish you a very happy and no doubt much deserved break in Singapore and best wishes for Christmas.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley Wright
    Personally very good product in my eyes, fair enough if one of the top Guru's are releasing a product it will be hard to get an interview with them, but the thing is you have to think outside the box
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  • Profile picture of the author rachelbaby1985
    Jani, quite frankly im disappointed....

    the product just didnt live up to the hype... so many people were counting on you to deliver something they could make $10k in 24 hrs with.. and the sales copy is just very exaggerated. in fact it was very similar to one of saj p's products.

    in fact you had people having sleepless nights after you embedded in their heads this system was worth $1000's of dollars when in fact it was no more than a $27 wso with a $2000 product launch... if you check out the comments on the blog people actually believed they were going to make 10k immediately.. some guy offered you $27k for the product

    again my disappointment is that the unique aspect in the trifilliate method worked for you on the fact YOU have a rep here at the WF, and also you did a phone call with a FRIEND of yours who was the creator of the launch...that is probably the only unique twist you have...

    if every single one of us did a phone call interview... i think the whole free wso method would now deem no longer as effective...

    and yes i don't believe about your 100 copies...

    you made $80,000 or $40,000 in your early bird opening alone... that if u ask me is wayyyyy more than 20 people..

    sorry for being harsh.. but just giving my honest review... i have been a lurker on this forum hwoever i just had to register and air out my feelings....

    tbh the only way i think i will make immediate money is to get a refund and get TRIPPLE my money back which is guaranteed... but even then i dont think it will be possible..
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    Nice launch by a non Guru so 10 out of 10 for that. I've ran through most of the course and the theory sounds good. Just have to put it into action and see what happens.

    Can't see me making 10 grand though or even half that
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    • Profile picture of the author lonicera
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      Nice launch by a non Guru so 10 out of 10 for that. I've ran through most of the course and the theory sounds good. Just have to put it into action and see what happens.

      Can't see me making 10 grand though or even half that
      yeah, and you should be lucky to choose the launch for a product that will be popular as google sniper was..and still is.
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  • Profile picture of the author ruch1v
    i haven't been on Jani's list for long and didn't buy the product, but I think we should cut him a bit of slack, he did a pretty good launch and there are always technical problems with launches, i've purchased from 2 big name gurus on launch day and had technical issues with them too, i'm guessing this is his first launch, i'm pretty sure in a coulple days time he'll be back online to explain everything, he seems like a good guy to me
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
    I agree. The launch was impeccable. When I have a suitable product I may well ask Jani's team to manage it for me.

    The glitches aren't the issue I have with the product though
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  • Profile picture of the author JJones
    I would also like to know if selling much more than the 100 copies is going to make this system unprofitable for all who bought it?
    I was one of the first 20 like a hundred other people it seems, I hope this makes us all money coz I'm fed up with wasting my money
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeb
    My honest opinion of this product is that it's not geared towards newbies or some marketers for that matter. Getting in touch with some top marketers to do the interview will not be as easy as Jani says in my humble opinion. And if you do get the interview, some of us might get tongue tied talking to an experienced marketer lol. Sorry if i do sound negative here and i don't like being negative.

    You'll later have to do the work of pre-selling your list which is not that easy at first and comes with experience. You'll probably have to make another video showing off some sort of how i made $1000's within a day or some very useful tips or something to brag about, which not all of us can do, especially a noob.

    However, the method is unique and will work if you dedicate yourself with it. Heck anything will work if you dedicate yourself into a current project. I do wish others that are following up this method the best of luck and i would love to see you all succeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author JaniG
      Originally Posted by Zeb View Post

      My honest opinion of this product is that it's not geared towards newbies or some marketers for that matter. Getting in touch with some top marketers to do the interview will not be as easy as Jani says in my humble opinion. And if you do get the interview, some of us might get tongue tied talking to an experienced marketer lol. Sorry if i do sound negative here and i don't like being negative.

      You'll later have to do the work of pre-selling your list which is not that easy at first and comes with experience. You'll probably have to make another video showing off some sort of how i made $1000's within a day or some very useful tips or something to brag about, which not all of us can do, especially a noob.

      However, the method is unique and will work if you dedicate yourself with it. Heck anything will work if you dedicate yourself into a current project. I do wish others that are following up this method the best of luck and i would love to see you all succeed.
      you talk like you have applied the system yourself ?

      try it out before making assumptions please

      and it was put together with the newbie in mind
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      • Profile picture of the author Zeb
        Originally Posted by JaniG View Post

        you talk like you have applied the system yourself ?

        try it out before making assumptions please

        and it was put together with the newbie in mind
        Hey Jani,

        Thanks for your reply and i do think that your system can work if applied properly BUT it's not for everyone as nothing can be for everyone. Now don't think that i'm slamming your system as i'm definitely not.

        This is your style of marketing online and your specialty. It definitely works but this is another area of IM that i'm probably won't be focusing on but I might in the future. I'm also worried if the method could get saturated but we'll have to see how it turns out as no one can predict the future. We can only plan.

        I want to focus on my current techniques that is working very well for me. I purchased your product in hope that it would be something that i can add to my system but apparently not. And among other technical reasons that i cannot pursue your method.

        Anyways, there is no grudge between us and probably we could keep in touch for future endeavors. You are a good marketer and we could probably exchange notes for a better progression.
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  • Profile picture of the author kerron.a
    I think this is a major milestone for Jani, and maybe this system proberly hasn't lived up to all the hype surrounding it yet, but it is very early on. After a couple weeks we will be able to see the true power of this system.

    I'm sure Jani will do his best to assist anyway he can, because his reputation as an upcomming "GURU" rides on successful products like TriFilliate PayDay.

    People say it's not all that newbie friendly, but i'm sure any serious newbie marketer would understand that there is no clear cut method to making money online and if you really want to succeed you have to do a bit of work yourself an research particular topics or methods that were not fully explained in this system.

    In all I still think this system will be worth the invested money an effort, but you must be willing to stick with it. Good luck to Jani G'uru'.
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  • Profile picture of the author brainworker
    I have written a detailed review of this product with concerns over Warrior Forum, the great forum.

    Triffiliate Pay Day Review - Questions and concerns! (Non affiliate link - I'm not selling it)
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    • Profile picture of the author margotoliver
      Nice article, I still think building your email lists are going to be difficult to build, you can't rely on Warrior Forum as the main avenue, you need ti think outside the forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author JaniG
        Originally Posted by margotoliver View Post

        Nice article, I still think building your email lists are going to be difficult to build, you can't rely on Warrior Forum as the main avenue, you need ti think outside the forum.
        there are other methods outside what you just stated

        which are stated in the course , videos, and LIVE training

        but again, take action and implement before you start talking

        walk the walk before you talk the talk
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        • Profile picture of the author JaniG
          UPDATE:

          i know there have been many questions to why more then 100 copies were sold.

          Well basically sooo many people got in before we had a chance to shut it down, that we let me more then 100 people

          So to keep it fair, we let the site stay open for a few more days

          BUT

          heres what is going to happen from Thursday 17th

          We wanted to shut the site down

          But instead of shutting it down, we are going to RAISE the price instead

          Its going to be around $197 or above from tomorrow


          I don't want to sound unfair and shut it down after we already let in more then 100 members...

          so the best thing to do is raise the price , so make it fair for YOU who have bought the product.

          So as the first lucky members you got in at $97 but after Thursday 17th it will go up to $197
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          • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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            Originally Posted by JaniG View Post

            UPDATE:

            i know there have been many questions to why more then 100 copies were sold.

            Well basically sooo many people got in before we had a chance to shut it down, that we let me more then 100 people

            So to keep it fair, we let the site stay open for a few more days

            BUT

            heres what is going to happen from Thursday 17th

            We wanted to shut the site down

            But instead of shutting it down, we are going to RAISE the price instead

            Its going to be around $197 or above from tomorrow


            I don't want to sound unfair and shut it down after we already let in more then 100 members...

            so the best thing to do is raise the price , so make it fair for YOU who have bought the product.

            So as the first lucky members you got in at $97 but after Thursday 17th it will go up to $197

            So, to be fair to those who thought they were getting an exclusive offer, you decided instead to sell as many as possible? Sounds totally fair to me, and not illogical in the least, lol. It's the ultimate in scarcity: "Folks, get in early, because I'm only going to sell 100 copies....unless I can sell more than 100 copies".
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            • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
              Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

              So, to be fair to those who thought they were getting an exclusive offer, you decided instead to sell as many as possible? Sounds totally fair to me, and not illogical in the least, lol. It's the ultimate in scarcity: "Folks, get in early, because I'm only going to sell 100 copies....unless I can sell more than 100 copies".
              That's one way of putting it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
    This shouldn't turn into a bash Jani thread.. He's a great guy from what I have seen of him and deserves every success. I suspect he will go a long way. Just because I am unconvinced by Trifilliate Payday it doesn't mean the product is bad, there are some good ideas in there and if it had been truly limited to say 20 copies then I think it would have been very impressive.

    Incidentally my initial figures were wrong, it was 40 odd k on the prelaunch and 80k on the first day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
    No idea.. He is in Singapore from what I can gather. I am still waiting for my refund. Not overly worried yet as I figure he's still dealing with the aftermath of the launch.

    Although I think that technical glitches can be expected. Still glad I didn't recommend it to my list as it would have made me look bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author margotoliver
    We are still waiting for the videos, it's been too long Jani!
    We need to know how to add an auto responder to our website, please.
    What is the best one for Wordpress?
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
    Depends on your budget Margot. The one most people recommend is Aweber although I have gone for Imnica which is being sold by a warrior. Do a search for his thread. Its quite a bit cheaper than Aweber and I think that with the next version out soon it will give Aweber a real run for its money.

    If your budget is low you could go for Norabots which is only $10 per month but Imnica isn't much more and is much more professional.

    Hope that helps. If you need any more help with Autoresponders PM me and I would be happy to help.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
      I purchased this as soon as it came out of the gates. I was probably one of the very first to buy it. It's been several days, and still no videos or bonuses.

      I've never asked for a refund before, and I'm hesitant to do so now, because I find Jani G very likeable and I think his launch was outstanding! And I did find his PDF informative, but...

      He basically oversold an unfinished product, and, while I don't want to call anyone's integrity into question, he's making far too much money on this (with far too many affiliates promoting it) for him to be limiting this to 100 copies.

      Two things I've learned from this...

      1) When doing a product launch, make sure your product is READY, before you launch it.

      2) Be honest in your sales copy. Don't say you'll limit it to 100 copies, if you're not going to limit to 100 copies.

      Having said all that, I do wish Jani nothing but success. And if the videos and bonuses are posted soon - and are of good quality - I won't ask for a refund.

      But, as it stands, the PDF alone is not worth $97. Sorry.
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      • Profile picture of the author bacca
        I agree Brian,
        He firmly stated he would be limiting this to 100. I just checked on clickbackbank, and currently the gravity for triffiliate payday is 80.72 . so there are almost as many ppl promoting this as the the total copies he said he would sell. I was also one of the first to purchase this, and after reading the ebook, I've been waiting for 5 days for the videos and bonuses to apear on the members page. Every day I log in to find the same message "coming in the next 24 - 48 hours". While the ebook was informative, I still need to be shown how to do a lot of what was written. I dont like to ask for a refund, but to do a full product launch for a product that is far from complete does not sit well with me, and I'm sure 100s of other purchasers are feeling the same disappointment, (even though there should be no more than 100 purchasers in the first place:rolleyes.
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        • Profile picture of the author lonicera
          I still didn't ask for a refund, but I'm not far from it. But I am definitely unsubscribing from Jani's mailing list.

          Further more, he now offers a special bonus for purchasing the product in the next 12 hours (2 week of live training), and the main product is not finished
          yet.
          How can anyone believe him that the training will actually be done when 5 days after launch the videos are still not up?
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  • Profile picture of the author rachelbaby1985
    I have just requested a refund... i am so disappointed about buying an incomplete product

    Jani did an amazing product launch... i have to give him that.. however the product just seems weak and did not deliver the hype (he said numerous times that it was not going to be an overhyped product - sure there was one twist i learnt in the trifilliate method but i would of not paid more than $17-27 and even then this method would not be effective if 100's of people were doing the same thing)..


    what makes it even more weak is quite simply he has sold a lot of copies which in turn affects the effectiveness of the whole trfilliate method... his affiliate newsletter said he hit $100,000 in sales in the last 4 days... and do the maths... this is much more than 100 copies... even if we include upsells...

    he said in the early bird launch 20 copies were sold. and some how he couldnt manage to count the number of copies and managed to sell $40,000 worth of copies...

    then says he will now give everyone one else a chance and is NOW throwing in 2 FREE weeks of personal training


    again not bashing jani at all,

    just upset... also unsubscribed from jani's mailling list.. his product launch tactics although amazing now leave me questioning his sincerity.
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    • Profile picture of the author JaniG
      Originally Posted by rachelbaby1985 View Post

      I have just requested a refund... i am so disappointed about buying an incomplete product

      Jani did an amazing product launch... i have to give him that.. however the product just seems weak and did not deliver the hype (he said numerous times that it was not going to be an overhyped product - sure there was one twist i learnt in the trifilliate method but i would of not paid more than $17-27 and even then this method would not be effective if 100's of people were doing the same thing)..


      what makes it even more weak is quite simply he has sold a lot of copies which in turn affects the effectiveness of the whole trfilliate method... his affiliate newsletter said he hit $100,000 in sales in the last 4 days... and do the maths... this is much more than 100 copies... even if we include upsells...

      he said in the early bird launch 20 copies were sold. and some how he couldnt manage to count the number of copies and managed to sell $40,000 worth of copies...

      then says he will now give everyone one else a chance and is NOW throwing in 2 FREE weeks of personal training


      again not bashing jani at all,

      just upset... also unsubscribed from jani's mailling list.. his product launch tactics although amazing now leave me questioning his sincerity.
      If you watched the pre launch videos then you would have seen that i said i was making the videos after the 3rd pre launch video went out

      so you should know that i made the videos during pre launch because of the demand

      origionally it was going to be just a guide and no videos

      so you got the FULL guide when you bought the course

      meaning you could go out there and apply the techniques

      weather all the videos were up does not really make a difference because
      you still need to TAKE ACTION in order to make ANYTHING work.

      Anyway the first set of videos are up now, and looks like you left before
      you had a chance for them to be up


      anyway good luck in the future

      Jani
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Well, just follow how he did this launch and you do not need to pay money for his course! If you can see what he did for this one, then just go ahead and follow that blueprint on your own for how to launch a product!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommy Zoom
    I don't know Jani personally but have spoken with him previously via email. As most of us will agree, he does come across as a sincere chap.

    Whilst some Warriors may feel that T/PayDay is not the 'polished' product one would expect, i do urge Warriors just to hang fire until we get an explanation from Jani.
    He is active on this forum & any IM'er who does a full product launch and wants to remain credible will always chip in and answer any queries re- their own products.

    On that basis, I can only imagine, having seen that Jani is currently in Singapore, that something serious must have happened that is keeping him from carrying out his normal business duties. I don't honestly believe that anyone would sabotage their own product.

    I purchased the T/Payday when it came out & yes, i too am also awaiting the videos & bonuses.

    Jani is purportedly conducting live training tomorrow night (8pm EST) on his product so let's at least give him until this time to come up with the bonuses or some sort of explanation....i'm sure there will be one & i'm sure we'll all understand.

    Hang in there everyone.
    ....& Jani, i hope everything's going okay behind the scenes for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author canary58
    Thanks to all who've contributed here. It's confirmed my feelings.

    If anyone does want to go ahead and buy, when you get to Jani's page click the x to leave and you'll be offered TrifPayDay at $20 off.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author allar
    Thanks everyone! I did find the product newbie friendly - that`s what I am. I also think that Jani did a great job selling the product - I bought it. Well, you have to start some where.

    I do share the general concern here. It`s been 48 hours since Jani was last here.
    Any news from Jani? Anyone?
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Please do not post any more speculation about Jani here.

    I share your concern that promises in post 19 appear not to have been met but we have a zero toleration here of any 'bashing'. Please read Allen Says's 'sticky' above and stick to the rules. What Allen Says says (!) is final around here.

    Hopefully, Jani will post a reply here in the next couple of days, once he is settled in Singapore.

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    • Profile picture of the author BrianTubbs
      No one should bash Jani personally. I agree with pearsonbrown 100% on that. But, this is a product review thread, so "bashing" the product is fair game.

      But...I'm not even doing that. The PDF was excellent. Just not sure it was worth $97. I'd say $27.

      The videos and bonuses (once they become available) may very well make the product worth $97. I'm just disappointed that they weren't ready to go, when the product was launched.

      As for the 100 copies issue, I want to give Jani the benefit of the doubt. I really do, and honestly, I don't blame him for wanting to sell as many TriFilliate Payday packages as he can. He's in this to make money after all. I've got no problem with that.

      BUT...I'm just at a loss of how to square what was promised in the sales process with what appears to be the reality. Let's face it...he emphasized the fact that he'd limit the number sold, and that affected the product's value. By limiting the number sold, he can rightly justify selling at a higher price.

      So, let's put it this way...in the fairest and kindest way we can....

      There is CONFUSION over how many TriFilliate packages were sold. It APPEARS (from all the circumstantial evidence available) that more copies were sold than what the sales process claimed, and this does affect the value of the product itself. So much so that it MAY encourage some of us to request a refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author Goodworker
      Well, it's certainly interesting to read this thread!

      For some reason I've not even been able to access the members area, I did get the pdf, but am unable to access the videos. I've skyped and emailed. Jani I know it's really busy, but I've tried to reach you so many times to get access to the membership area and no response. I've looked everywhere and have no way to access. You mentioned on your webinar to send you my receipt details, which I've done.

      Please help.

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Pambos
        Originally Posted by lonicera View Post

        or is Chris just a fake Sniper character?
        No, I'm a real person.

        Originally Posted by rachelbaby1985 View Post

        Jani are we going to hear from chris??? I'm sure if he came and left a reply on the board all of us would be much more at ease.
        I'm here now, I didn't realize that there was a thread about TriFilliate Payday, sorry, I don't really browse this part of the Warrior Forum but anyway, I'm here now!

        I just finished reading this entire thread a couple of minutes ago.

        I'm Chris Pambos for those of you that don't know me and have never heard of me. If you would like to get to know me, feel free to add me or send me a PM and we'll communicate.

        I'm a student of Jani G. I was the first 'guinea pig' and 'test subject' for TriFilliate Payday before Jani went on to create TriFilliate Payday and share this information with the public.

        I was in a financial rut not too long ago but I got lucky and got myself out of this financial rut and I have one person to thank that is Jani G.

        I attended several of Jani G's training webinars in the past in my spare time as a 'fly on the wall' and found his training sessions to be really good because he wasn't using the IM jargon that to a total newbie seems like he's speaking in Alien language so I found it easy to understand the concepts and strategies that he was teaching.

        Even with all the great training he provided to me in the past through his training webinars, you know what I did after each training session? You guessed it, I did nothing just like the other 97% in the world that learn something new but fail to take any action.

        I built up the courage to send Jani G an email and add him to Skype to advise him of my situation and pretty much asking for some sort of a quick fix.

        Yes I know, I was desperate and that was possibly the dumbest way I approached the situation but nonetheless Jani G actually responded and was willing to help me out, I couldn't believe it but it's true.

        That's when I first learned about his system which now is known as TriFilliate Payday; Jani trained me one on one over Skype microphone and training webinars in regards to how to go about implementing the TriFilliate Payday system so I could make some quick cash or any cash at all to fix up the financial rut I was in.

        After a few weeks of solid one on one coaching and mentoring from Jani I went out on my own like a big boy and attempted to implement some of the techniques taught within TriFilliate Payday, note that I didn't implement the complete system on my first attempt in the past because I was overwhelmed from all training I had received and thought that it was all simply too much work for me to do in such a short space of time.

        Implementing what Jani had personally taken the time to mentor me on and with his advice throughout the process, I managed to generate 3 months worth of my day jobs salary in only three days. To me, that is like winning the lotto, on second thought, it still is like winning the lotto.

        Even then, like I said, I didn't even use the complete TriFilliate system.

        When I took my first shot at implementing the TriFilliate system, I didn't create a WSO and didn't get the chance to interview the owner of the product I was promoting as an affiliate so there's still a lot of room for improvement for me to work on.

        I think that my results I personally experienced with TriFilliate Payday isn't the typical result that everyone who does take action will generate on their first time around but the potential is there and if you put your mind to it, you can achieve anything, it all starts with your belief.

        Without a strong belief, you lack taking massive action and without massive action, you don't get REAL results, if any at all.


        In my personal opinion, I think that TriFilliate Payday is worth the $97 and YES I even paid for TriFilliate Payday when Jani launched recently as my way of saying thanks to Jani for knocking some sense into me and providing me with one on one mentoring which I value as priceless and helping me get out of the financial rut I was in not too long ago.

        Originally Posted by JaniG View Post

        Here's a lesson in making money online.

        Learn something new and take MASSIVE ACTION on what you have learned.

        Learn from your mistakes, and move forward towards your goals.

        Talk soon

        Jani
        I also think that what Jani said which is quoted above alone is worth $97 because it's the sad truth, like Jani also mentioned, that even if 1,000,000 people did buy TriFilliate Payday, only 10% or not even that for a matter of fact would actually think about taking action, it's more like only 1% or less actually do take massive determined action after learning something new.
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  • Profile picture of the author bebryfry1
    I've been trying to do affiliate marketing in the past and only made like 5 sales in the past with literally NO LIST what so ever. I did purchase trifilliate payday and will honestly impliment these techniques in the hopes of more income. Jani said is wasn't really about building a list but I think it really is.

    Jani keeps losing points with me because most of the time he launches a product, its never complete. Meaning we have to wait for videos or other things that the product still doesn't have. Next time I'll just wait 2 weeks after he launches a product. By that time it should be complete.

    I do like his content though
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  • Profile picture of the author rachelbaby1985
    guys do you know if the bonus jani offered i.e. personal live training.. is exclusive to those who bought it or is it for everyone?
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  • Profile picture of the author margotoliver
    The first video is finally available, just in time before his Webnair today.
    The video doesn't say much , he goes through the 9 step diagram on how the system works. But it looks promising...but this 5 day delay on waiting for the videos has made my first campaign pretty weak.
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  • Profile picture of the author rommelgm
    6 day delay for 1 video? no bonuses up to now.
    My first campaing also really weak... I hope the next videos come soon. Or maybe in todays webinar He can explain why the delay.
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  • Profile picture of the author rachelbaby1985
    looks like the "exclusive limited time bonus" live training webinar is available to the public
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  • Profile picture of the author rommelgm
    JaniG when the first webinar will be on the members area? And when are going to be the next webinar? I hope only for members...
    And the bonuses when are gonna be up on the members area?
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  • Profile picture of the author Maryleena
    Hey all, great comments!

    I have gone through the program and I must say, I belive it will work for thoughs who put in the effort. Most of the system is old stuff, but delivered in a new way!
    I did learn a new trick, that can help me in other ways as well.
    If I where to chose between Google Sniper and TriFilliate PayDay....hmmmm... Sorry, but I would go with Google Sniper, but.... If you combine them, I think you have a pretty good system. This does take more work ofcause :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author minted1
    hi mate yes i have purchased the course even tho i was as skeptyical as anyone else, and just like some other people on here i thought that i could work out exactly what he had done just by going back and analysing the google sniper launch that he promoted and tearing it apart. i managed to work out most of it but there were a few little details that i would of missed if i had not got the information. as sad as it may sound i even stayed up til 2am this morning uk time to listen to his 1st webinar on this subject. and yes his style and especially his organisation skills need a lot of work there was a lot of going back and forth over the same thing. but i have just checked and the first 6 videos are up in the members area for viewing. just goes to show you can still teach an old dog (some) new tricks !!! hope this helps. minted1
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  • Profile picture of the author roachman313
    I am part of the program too and I am going to stick with it a little bit longer

    I don't like how he is going to sell even more memberships especially after he said in the webinar yesterday that one of the reasons we can be successful is because it is so limited. There are only so many product launches out there and if thousands of people are doing the same thing to promote it than these boards are going to filled with promotion threads.

    I think Jani is probably a great person but he is still trying to make money so I don't blame him for selling as many as he can, but if he launches another product the same way. Who is going to believe him when he says that he is only giving out 100 memberships?

    Like I said, I am going to stick with it for a little longer. I do want to see some more videos on the site plus some of the bonuses that are still not on there.
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    • Profile picture of the author JaniG
      The first thing i want to let you guys know is if you are a member and tried to contact me via phone, skype or email, and i have not yet got back to you its because i am in Singapore rite now visitng Family.

      So i have had Limited internet access and not been able to reply to everyones emails.

      Also my phone is not in service as its a London Number

      But when i get back to London next week, you will be able to talk to me anytime you like (if you are a member)

      Here's the bottom line guys

      you either want to learn new ways to make money, or you can complain.

      I put together this course to show you how i made $10k in 24 hours and $15k in 7 days and how Anyone can generate HUGE paydays by using the Trifillaite techniques and promoting any product launch.

      This is not some rehashed garbage like other 'Gurus' put out there.

      I genuinley put this together after people asked me to show them how i did it...

      not with the sole intention of selling it just to 'make money', because i already make money in my business without having to create any products...

      You can either apply the techniques you learn, or moan, and complain.

      Bottom line is if you don't take action you wont get anywhere with anything in life.

      Thanks to those who gave their honest comments i appreciate your thoughts and i take all feedback in a good way as i want to please everyone.

      Im just 24 and this is my real business, therefore i am not here to luy to anyone...

      I am in this for the long term so its my duty to please as many people as i can and provide the best service i can. I Have a real Company so this is not some little 'ebook' that i put together just to make money from a few people...

      Fair enough, we sold more then 100 copies, but the thing is, that should not make any difference to you taking MASSIVE ACTION.

      even if 1 million copies were sold, the truth is that only 10% of people will probably TAKE ACTION and apply what they learn.

      The rest will probably just let it gather dust and just skim through it and not take any action.

      THATS THE TRUTH

      Look back at all the other products you have bought.

      How many times have you bought something and just let it lay on your hard drive and gather cyber dust ?

      well, i hope that more then 10% of you guys will take action and apply the powerful techniques that i teach.

      Those of you who said "this is old stuff" well i hope you are making $10k a day using the techniques then...

      If you are not applying it then you have no right to say anything about this product which i spent my time and effort putting together.

      Here's a lesson in making money online.

      Learn something new and take MASSIVE ACTION on what you have learned.

      Learn from your mistakes, and move forward towards your goals.

      Talk soon

      Jani
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      • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
        Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. That sums up Internet Marketing in one fell swoop.

        Enjoy the rest of your holiday in Singapore.

        Originally Posted by JaniG View Post

        Here's a lesson in making money online.

        Learn something new and take MASSIVE ACTION on what you have learned.

        Learn from your mistakes, and move forward towards your goals.

        Talk soon

        Jani
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    dang 80 posts to go through.

    what kind of member site is it (if it is?)

    just a course on promoting pre lauched products?
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  • Profile picture of the author rachelbaby1985
    Jani are we going to hear from chris??? I'm sure if he came and left a reply on the board all of us would be much more at ease.
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    You're right. most people mock stuff before they even tried it. I guess it's there sub consious way of getting out of doing any work.

    Look guys, at the end of the day you've got to take action. And even if you fail don't be bitter, just learn from it and move on.

    Inspiring post by the way Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author rommelgm
    Hi, Jani said that the best way is post something in this forum, but if I am new here the moderator don´t allow me to put anything, I just created 2 threads and I can´t see anyone, can anybody know another way besides this? But as good as this forum...
    Thanks,
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    • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
      chris, can you explain what you did and what product did you promote?
      how did you build a list without a WSO, where did you get traffic for your squeeze page
      These are really good questions as Chris has nothing to lose revealing this
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      • Profile picture of the author Gee S
        Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

        These are really good questions as Chris has nothing to lose revealing this
        In fact he does have something to lose, especially if he was using methods not described in Trifilliate Payday. His methods may then get saturated, so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't answer those questions.
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        • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
          In fact he does have something to lose, especially if he was using methods not described in Trifilliate Payday. His methods may then get saturated, so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't answer those questions.
          Well surely can can share with us what launch he promoted
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          • Profile picture of the author kerron.a
            Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

            Well surely can can share with us what launch he promoted
            Yea i guess he could share the launch he promoted, but i don't see how helpful that would be, what would be more interesting is how he applied the TriFilliate method in the launch.

            But i guess it would be kind of unfair asking Chris to reveal what he did, seeing as all the info we need to know is in the book and videos.
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            • Profile picture of the author mhartley
              I am truly trying to take the massive action Janig speaks of. I am carefully studying the written material and tryng to read between the lines, but without the videos to watch at the recommended time in the pdf, then it leaves big holes in the learning process. Two weeks+ since I purchased and still very limited video access. It is a great concept and if it were a complete product, someone like myself who is wanting so much to take the needed action, could be all over this and winning quickly, but...
              If the videos were actually "in the can" then I see no reason not to post them. Keep in mind that Janig is not personally doing the webmaster stuff as he has Joey as his task master there, from the US it appears. So it seems to me that videos are either not even produced yet or Joey is really slacking off.
              I will hang on for another day or so, but I am very close to bailing on this product and looking elsewhere for expanding my IM knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author margotoliver
    Ok where are the remaining videos? This is totally un professional to launch a product and not to have it ready. The Trifilliate Payday Product was launched on Dec 10th and Jani didn't even start the videos until the 12th of Dec. The content has errors as the some of the links don't work. It has been so frustrating.. I wanted to get my first launch up and running before Christmas, but I can't because I would like to see the videos on Opt in pages and Exit splash to continue my squeeze page.
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    • Profile picture of the author JaniG
      hey guys

      just an UPDATE for MEMBERS

      First of all i don't see why even without the videos, you can't implement the methods.

      its all laid out in the main guide.

      And the videos are just to help you along side the guide

      so really even without the videos you should still be able to implement the strategies, i don't understand what all the fuss is about.

      But yes the rest of the videos will be up soon.

      I am in Singapore rite now with Limited Internet Access...

      Yes i know a bad time to launch a course.

      But it just so happened that the launch of Trifilliate Payday clashed with my cousins wedding in Singapore which is why i am here.

      Anyway for those of you who ARE members, you would have got an email from me.

      Those who are NOT MEMBERS YET, then please , you don't really have any right to say anything unless you have read the guide and put the methods to use.

      Thanks to those who have personally messaged me, i have got back to you already.

      If you have any more questions then please post them below.

      but i have a big supprise for you if you are a member, as a sorry for the delay in the videos, so watch out over the next 7 days for this...

      More updates on the way

      Jani
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    "Those who are NOT MEMBERS YET, then please , you don't really have any right to say anything unless you have read the guide and put the methods to use."

    This is not a support forum for your members, Jani.

    You need to learn that when you make mistakes you should apologize. Going off to Singapore for a wedding at the same time as launching a product was a silly mistake to make. But people would easily forgive this if you just said 'sorry'.

    Pearson
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Fay
    I totally agree with Pearson Brown. I understand that you are in Singapore right now but is it really the best time to launching a product especially since you are having trouble getting internet access?

    As far as the videos go I agree that you do not really need them. On the other hand you do need the website templates which still are not up yet since the product launch.

    This is what you said in an email on December 18th

    Also the next set of Training videos will be up by Monday, and
    these are some good videos! so watch out...

    Also the templates for opt in pages will be up on
    Monday aswell, and i will be showing you how to
    put it all together.

    It is now Tuesday and so far they are not up. Also the last webinar has not been posted either.

    I think you have created a great product and people just need to implement it for success. I can not continue without the optin templates. That is were I am stuck at this point.

    People paid $97 for access to your product. The product should have been completed before it was placed on the market for sale. Is it really fair for you to make us wait considering we already paid you a while ago? A lot of people have been complaining for the videos and you have replying by saying you do not need them.

    I am a visual learner myself and prefer to learn things by video. I have read the guide also. Whether you believe we need the videos or not they still should be there because we have already paid you.

    I guess I would like an apology. I have not heard you say once that you were sorry for launching a product and being in Singapore at the same time. It was an honest mistake which he have all made.

    Hopefully you will learn a lesson from this.
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  • Profile picture of the author margotoliver
    Can you believe is second Webinar. Can anything else go wrong for Jani. If he was just a little bit organised he would make life so much easier on all of us. We desperately need the bonuses with the Opt in and squeeze pages..... the rest videos would be helpful!...... here's hoping Jani computer is working tomorrow
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    • Profile picture of the author mhartley
      Hey jani
      I gotta tell ya man, I am trying to hang in there with ya. I can see things are tough for ya right now.
      I went to Walmart today and bought an awesome CD with 14 songs and it included the lyrics...really cool. It was a bit pricey though at 19.95.
      When I got home and opened it, it only had one song on it. So I called Walmart and they said it shouldn't be a problem 'cause I have all the lyrics, so don't worry about the music. I don't know man, I'm not sure they really get it. That CD, without the music, sure ain't worth near what I paid for it!
      Anyway, hope you're having a great time in Singapore.
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      • Profile picture of the author bexb88
        Well, I pitched pretty much my last red cent into buying Trifiliate Payday - the launch was magnetic, the initial prelaunch report gave me a new angle that I could see working. Like others, I was surprised that the TP site wasn't complete when I got in there. I'm hoping for the rest of the videos sooner rather than later; to be honest, Jani, I'd prefer you to just gave us dates that are realistic within your schedule, rather than keep promising imminent uploads only to disappoint.

        I'm a newbie, and there are gaps within the written and recorded info released so far - not in the principles of the system but in the technicalities. I've never had an autoresponder, created a squeeze page or built a list. I see how those things work within this system, but where do I find them? How do I set them up? Where do I host them? What should they look like?

        THAT SAID - I've figured it out. I'm the proud owner of an Aweber account (even I could stretch to $1 for the first month, just counting on earning enough to pay for it thereafter), I've set up my autoresponders by swiping wordings and layouts I see on lists I subscribe to. I've designed and created an optin page, hosted for free by Aweber. I've identified some great, recent, relevant PLR products that relate to my selected launch, bought them, and found a free hosting service so that I can include the links in my autoresponder. (There really is more content out there than interviewing designers - imagination is all you need!) I had no idea how to do any of this when I bought Tri Payday. But I've gone out there and figured it out. It has taken longer than simply following Jani's lead would have, but I can't afford for this not to work for me - and quickly, so I'm doing the leg work to figure out what Jani hasn't shown me - yet.

        Andrew - do what I did - copy and paste the wording from Jani's Google Sniper squeeze page, pay a dollar for Aweber and amend the wording as you need to. It ain't Shakepeare, but it's a start. I'll talk you through it if you want?

        My only concern right now is that so much of the list building hangs on the use of free WSOs on this forum. Now that WF has returned to paid status and considering that WSOs are (understandably) not accepted from members who have no track record on the forum, one of the key elements of the system - newbies attracting interest, subscribers and credibility, falls down. Now, I'm just going to take a few hours, hit Google, find every free IM forum out there and post my offer - it's all ready to go - but it is a blow, because Jani, you seem to have put so much emphasis on this forum. I don't mind figuring things out for myself, as I've demonstrated already, but some guidance would be great. Is there a Plan B? Alternatives to the Warrior Forum that you would recommend? I simply can't afford to pay out membership fees all over the place - not until I've made some money first...

        So I'd say to Andrew and others who feel they don't have enough to move forward - you do. I have. Yes, trial and error might be painful and can be bewildering in the short term, but we have the bones of the system and at some point we have to take that and run with it. If trial and error is going to be the only way to get ourselves up from the ground floor, we gotta do it. How do you think Jani and other successful Internet Marketers did it?
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        • Profile picture of the author ocon9316
          Originally Posted by bexb88 View Post

          So I'd say to Andrew and others who feel they don't have enough to move forward - you do. I have. Yes, trial and error might be painful and can be bewildering in the short term, but we have the bones of the system and at some point we have to take that and run with it. If trial and error is going to be the only way to get ourselves up from the ground floor, we gotta do it. How do you think Jani and other successful Internet Marketers did it?
          Good post and really I wish you all the success in the world. However, I think the point is that if one pays $97 for a product they expect to get the whole product that they were promised and not just the "bones" of the system. Although $97 isn't a whole lot of money, the point is that for that price you shouldn't have to figure things out the way you did. Anyone can figure out IM, it just takes so much time. That is basically what these products are supposed to be all about - showing new tricks, tools and methods that WORK so that the users of the products don't have to waste months of research, trial and error and reading forums to figure it out on their own. You pay for the information, you should get the full information.

          With that said, I haven't bought TriFilliate Payday but my impression of Jani is that he is a good guy and isn't trying to scam anyone or anything like that. I'm not trying to bash the product (or Jani) at all, I'm just saying that it seems to me that the whole point of purchasing these products is to avoid (as much as possible) the trial and error and research.
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          • Profile picture of the author JaniG
            Originally Posted by ocon9316 View Post

            Good post and really I wish you all the success in the world. However, I think the point is that if one pays $97 for a product they expect to get the whole product that they were promised and not just the "bones" of the system. Although $97 isn't a whole lot of money, the point is that for that price you shouldn't have to figure things out the way you did. Anyone can figure out IM, it just takes so much time. That is basically what these products are supposed to be all about - showing new tricks, tools and methods that WORK so that the users of the products don't have to waste months of research, trial and error and reading forums to figure it out on their own. You pay for the information, you should get the full information.

            With that said, I haven't bought TriFilliate Payday but my impression of Jani is that he is a good guy and isn't trying to scam anyone or anything like that. I'm not trying to bash the product (or Jani) at all, I'm just saying that it seems to me that the whole point of purchasing these products is to avoid (as much as possible) the trial and error and research.
            i just sent out an email saying that everything will be set on the 27th when i get back to London because the internet here keeps on BREAKING and it interrupts the Upload proccess...

            There is no point me trying to upload everything here in Singapore when the internet keeps Breaking connections

            so its best for me to wait till the 27th when i am back in London and have a SECURE connection and can upload everything fast with no issues...

            thanks for the comments

            J
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        • Profile picture of the author JaniG
          Originally Posted by bexb88 View Post

          Well, I pitched pretty much my last red cent into buying Trifiliate Payday - the launch was magnetic, the initial prelaunch report gave me a new angle that I could see working. Like others, I was surprised that the TP site wasn't complete when I got in there. I'm hoping for the rest of the videos sooner rather than later; to be honest, Jani, I'd prefer you to just gave us dates that are realistic within your schedule, rather than keep promising imminent uploads only to disappoint.

          I'm a newbie, and there are gaps within the written and recorded info released so far - not in the principles of the system but in the technicalities. I've never had an autoresponder, created a squeeze page or built a list. I see how those things work within this system, but where do I find them? How do I set them up? Where do I host them? What should they look like?

          THAT SAID - I've figured it out. I'm the proud owner of an Aweber account (even I could stretch to $1 for the first month, just counting on earning enough to pay for it thereafter), I've set up my autoresponders by swiping wordings and layouts I see on lists I subscribe to. I've designed and created an optin page, hosted for free by Aweber. I've identified some great, recent, relevant PLR products that relate to my selected launch, bought them, and found a free hosting service so that I can include the links in my autoresponder. (There really is more content out there than interviewing designers - imagination is all you need!) I had no idea how to do any of this when I bought Tri Payday. But I've gone out there and figured it out. It has taken longer than simply following Jani's lead would have, but I can't afford for this not to work for me - and quickly, so I'm doing the leg work to figure out what Jani hasn't shown me - yet.

          Andrew - do what I did - copy and paste the wording from Jani's Google Sniper squeeze page, pay a dollar for Aweber and amend the wording as you need to. It ain't Shakepeare, but it's a start. I'll talk you through it if you want?

          My only concern right now is that so much of the list building hangs on the use of free WSOs on this forum. Now that WF has returned to paid status and considering that WSOs are (understandably) not accepted from members who have no track record on the forum, one of the key elements of the system - newbies attracting interest, subscribers and credibility, falls down. Now, I'm just going to take a few hours, hit Google, find every free IM forum out there and post my offer - it's all ready to go - but it is a blow, because Jani, you seem to have put so much emphasis on this forum. I don't mind figuring things out for myself, as I've demonstrated already, but some guidance would be great. Is there a Plan B? Alternatives to the Warrior Forum that you would recommend? I simply can't afford to pay out membership fees all over the place - not until I've made some money first...

          So I'd say to Andrew and others who feel they don't have enough to move forward - you do. I have. Yes, trial and error might be painful and can be bewildering in the short term, but we have the bones of the system and at some point we have to take that and run with it. If trial and error is going to be the only way to get ourselves up from the ground floor, we gotta do it. How do you think Jani and other successful Internet Marketers did it?
          thank you for the honest post i totally appreceate your feedback .

          in regards to your question, there is a section in the video course and guide where we cover the other traffic strategies then what you mentioned.

          so watch out for that..

          im glad you have taken action and looks like if you stick with it you will see results.

          thanks

          Jani
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  • Profile picture of the author xxxJamesxxx
    It's true, I've just gone through my emails (and I never delete them due to extreme lazyiness and I've got emails from Jani promoting Gsniper, and quite heavily by the numbers of emails.
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    Originally Posted by ishansoni View Post

    Dude, I also know for a fact that you didn't just email your list that you gathered from Trifilliate strategies, you emailed about the google sniper launch to everybody on your list whom you had a strong relationship with. You easily had a list of more then 10k before you started gathering a list for google sniper..

    Google sniper was one course that actually worked for people (And there was a lot of hype around it because it was previously launched here as a WSO successfully).

    I have purchased your triffiliate system course and honestly, asked for a refund.

    If you're a newbie then understand that there is no way you will implement this system and earn 10k in 2-7 days.

    I am not bashing your product. I have actually purchased it and went through the whole course (except the video ofcourse, which were not up).

    Just letting you know that you should tell people that you also sent emails to your other lists aswell while promoting the google sniper system.

    In your prelaunch, you had people who actually thought they could make 10k in 2 days after implementing the system LOL.

    I used to trust your recommendations after your twitter product, but now I am starting to question myself.

    Truth is bitter but the reality is that I would've probably paid $27 for the course (and maybe, still asked for a refund because I was not given the bonuses+videos).

    Anyhow, this is not the end of the world for me because I have other systems that make me a pretty good amount of money..
    What makes me laugh about people like you is that you talk as if you have applied the methods FULLY.

    You have not even tested out the methods and already saying it does not work?

    you also talk as if i am luying ?

    who gives you the right to say i did not use the trifilliate strategies to make 10k in 24 hours ?

    then again, every one is entitled to their OWN OPINION

    you also do NOT sound like an action taker

    and Trifilliate Payday is Only for ACTION TAKERS not WHINERS

    good luck in the future if you even decide to take action on something new that you learn...

    Jani
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Jani...

    Just 2 simple comments from an outside observer.

    1. You promised to limit availability to 100 people. You then come
    here and chastise those who rightfully complain that you broke that promise.

    2. To those who complain that the promised videos weren't available
    you reply that you don't know what all the fuss is about. Here's a clue...
    the fuss is about broken promises.

    Rather than chastise those who paid money based on promises your
    best bet would be to heed Pearson's sage advice and apologize for your
    mistakes.

    I've been on this forum a long time... longer even than the join date
    showing in my profile. I've learned, from observation, that Warriors are
    a forgiving bunch so long as people are not trying to tap dance their
    way around serious issues.

    Man up... admit mistakes... learn and improve... move on. That's the
    best formula around here.

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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    I haven't had to delete so many posts from a thread for ages. A lot of people need to calm down.

    Jani has promised to put things right when he has a decent internet connection. Until then, I'm closing this thread.

    Pearson
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