Has anyone used Sitesell dot com?

14 years ago

Thats' Ken Evoy's product - a lot of people swear by it. I haven't used it myself but a lot of beginners find it to be very easy to use. I will admit that the free books he used to (and probably still does) give away with it were excellent, at least they were back in 2004! In all fairness he's probably updated them since then!

Personally I'm with you - I'd advise her to skip it and just learn to build a site with WordPress and learn the basics of Internet Marketing and SEO. In the long run the skills she'll acquire will be more beneficial than learning to put up a site using one specific product.

Just my 2 cents.

Bill

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Hamida Harland

14 years ago

My very first site was with Sitesell - I was a complete newbie and hadn't a notion how to do ANYTHING online. I never did make a cent from that site (although to be honest I didn't follow through with it - I gave up to pursue something else) however it did teach me some of the basics like how to do keyword research etc. so I did learn something from my experience. Although a bit expensive I think it IS good for newbies, and I think I'd probably have done well with my site if I'd carried on with it.

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rosetrees 14 years ago

Thanks guys. That reassures me that it's a genuine product. I'll show her this thread so she can make her decision. My gut feeling was what you said Bill, that she would be better off learning to do it herself, but she's feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment.
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tremayne

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rosetrees

One of my contacts is thinking of starting a Site Build It (SBI) site. I know nothing about them. Has anyone used them. My advise to her is to build her own site, but she's adamant that the SBI sales video has told her exactly what she was already thinking.

Does anyone here have any experience of using SBI/Sitesell?

Hello Rose!

I take it this is for a beginner?

My very first site was put together with SBI. In my opinion it is ideal for beginners because they get their hands held. The manuals (not just for SBI but for marketing, writing, you name it) are detailed yet written in an easy and understandable manner. Those are some of the pros.

Among the cons: the program is restrictive and I eventually found it was too "baby-cakes" (is that a word?) for me. It was a great way to learn some of the ropes, but as I learned more I wanted the freedom to do things my way. Dreamweaver, the most popular program with professionals, is probably way beyond your friend's abilities (it's beyond mine, too!). I now use XSitePro which provides great training and support, a ton of flexibility and makes putting up new professional-looking websites a snap.

One more con for SBI: it is way too expensive. It is $299 every year versus $197 on special for XSP one time. Another con: If you want to build more than one site with SBI you have to get a second (third, fourth, fifth....) license. They have a half-price sale a couple of times a year, but that's still $150!

I like Ken Evoy as a person but I think his product is overrated and certainly not worth the money.

That's my two cents; I hope it may save your friend more than two cents!

Sydney

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tush

14 years ago

I use site build it and I love it. I also believe that if you are to get all the tools that SBI provides, one would pay much more than that. If some one has been online, I am sure they can build a profitable business using any soft ware.... but for a newbie, it is a bit of a challenge.... getting to learn what it takes. It is better to find all the tools in one place. suprisingly, there are very many seasoned websmasters who love and have stuck with SBI.

I like one thing with them, what they promise is what they deliver, there is no hype like most online products. As for being old fashioned, they update it all the time. We know technology is not static. People who used it before may be surprised at the new tools which have been added. For instance, they recently added C2.O and many more... and they offer a monthly option of 29.9/month to give people a chance to those who cant afford to pay upfront.

Here is a simple review: USING SITE BUILD IT TO MAKE MONEY ONLINE

Is it for every one? Of course not! But I would recommend it for most people so that they get started with it instead of being swallowed by the web. Once they understand how things work, they can always decide for themselves if this is a fit for them or not. I have bought several program but I am so glad I came across SBI when I was getting started. I am waiting for the Dec buy one get one free special to buy two more sites for my other niche. That is how much I love SBI:rolleyes:

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maggie2

14 years ago

I have used Sitebuildit also and find it excellent for newer folks. I was a newbie when I started with it and found it helpful. My only complaint about SBI is that you can drown in all the information Ken Evoy provides. He is one prolific writer!

The actual site building format is really helpful and I highly recommend it. I still have one site there that I use for all kinds of things, but don't actually use it as a site.

Hope this helps some.

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tush

14 years ago

Originally Posted by maggie2

My only complaint about SBI is that you can drown in all the information Ken Evoy provides. He is one prolific writer!

I agree. Ken can really write

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tush

14 years ago

The Christmas special, "The-Buy-One-Get-One-Free" is on till Dec 25th. This is probably the best season to buy SBI. Give one as a gift to a loved one or keep it for yourself for later, you can find a friend and you share the cost if resources are tight..... Hope that helps

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Freedom2Live

14 years ago

I'm getting the impression from what I've read, that SBI has a focus more on building one large site, rather than many smaller ones. I mean, if you're going to spend $299 per year then you want to make it worth it, right?

My question is: Is the "one large site, not many smaller ones" a strategy that SBI considers the best way to internet market? Is that what they teach you in all the supporting material?

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DarrenB

14 years ago

It always amazes when the whole SBI discussion comes up and it seems to fall into two camps:

- Those who really believe in what Ken offers which (my take at least) is how to build a proper internet business around a single website (or several websites around a single theme)

- Those who think the whole thing is a pile of rubbish as it's old, clunky, expensive and only allows you to build one website. And you could be out there building tons of websites really cheaply using Wordpress

At the severe risk of generalization, personally, I think that the majority of those who fall into the second camp are the same people who believe that it's easy to make money on the internet by using Wordpress, article spinners, a gazillion social networking sites and dodgy linking strategies.

One of the current fads seems to be creating a whole string of false names at article sites, social networking sites etc. Load up articles that that have been "spun" to each of these sites. Link the whole lot back to a money site and off you go.

But who wants to tell their children that their valuable contribution in life is to fill the internet with unfiltered garbage all in a vain attempt to trick the search engines? And usually to flog some god-awful get-rich-quick clickbank product.

Of course it's tough to set-up and successfully run a business online or offline. That's why the vast majority of people on this forum will fail. And why they hate the very premise of SBI as you can't simply push buttons to build a successful business.

Even if you have the right mindset for running a proper business, SBI might not work for you either because you don't like Ken's style or the program. But you'll end up finding a honest program with integrity that will work for you. And not one called "Cracking The Google Enigma" or some other ridiculous name.

And as for the argument that SBI is expensive? So, let me get this straight, you're worried about spending $300 to run a business? That means you don't anticipate bringing in revenue of more than $300 to offset this cost. If you can't bring in revenue of more than $300 doesn't it occur to anyone that you don't have a business and nor will you have a successful one anytime soon.

But of course, with a push of a button, you could set-up a 1000 Wordpress blogs for $75 a year in total (for hosting) and each of those blogs could bring in $10 a year so you make a cool $9,925. Dead easy.

- Can one person, just one - please provide details of how they have done this successfully and ethically over a two year period.?

- A by ethically I mean, show me written evidence from Google/Bing/Yahoo/Delicious/Hubpages etc that they are comfortable with your strategies,

- And also from your lawyers, that all your website content is legally yours. What?? You mean you didn't know you're not allowed to copy Yahoo Answers directly onto your website?

- And you didn't know that there were laws you needed to follow on the internet??

Just my thoughts.

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Darren

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Johncpu

14 years ago

Originally Posted by DarrenB

It always amazes when the whole SBI discussion comes up and it seems to fall into two camps:

- Those who really believe in what Ken offers which (my take at least) is how to build a proper internet business around a single website (or several websites around a single theme)

- Those who think the whole thing is a pile of rubbish as it's old, clunky, expensive and only allows you to build one website. And you could be out there building tons of websites really cheaply using Wordpress

Darren , looks to me like you've set up a straw man scenario. Actually, I'd like to think of myself as part of a 3rd camp. SiteSell offers good support, lots of features, and is a safe but expensive way for beginners to start. But are you really suggesting that people pay $299 for every single site they make ? In truth, the vast majority of SiteSell folks move on after doing their first site.

To me, it's a little someone who buys a Hummer because its big and safe in the scary highway of internet marketing. But eventually you realize that a Honda will do just fine, is more flexible getting around town, and costs much less to operate. Two ways to get from point A to point B. I almost bought a 'Hummer' when I first started, but just didn't like the price tag. It was the right decision for me.

John

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tush

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Johncpu

Darren , looks to me like you've set up a straw man scenario. Actually, I'd like to think of myself as part of a 3rd camp. SiteSell offers good support, lots of features, and is a safe but expensive way for beginners to start. But are you really suggesting that people pay $299 for every single site they make ? In truth, the vast majority of SiteSell folks move on after doing their first site.

To me, it's a little someone who buys a Hummer because its big and safe in the scary highway of internet marketing. But eventually you realize that a Honda will do just fine, is more flexible getting around town, and costs much less to operate. Two ways to get from point A to point B. I almost bought a 'Hummer' when I first started, but just didn't like the price tag. It was the right decision for me.

John

By the way, I have always wondered if those who say that SBI is expensive have a clue on what is in the package. The word tracker keyword research tool costs a fortune per year..... and, by the way, even those free or less costly methods, most people have to pay to learn how to use them, that is why most people are making fortunes from membership sites....

Even if I stop using SBI, the education I have learned from there is worth thousands of dollars. I stronglyy believe that most people are safe going with SBI

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DarrenB 14 years ago

Hi John - fully understand your point about the dangers of creating a strawman. As in all aspects of life there is room for a lot of variations.

My personal feeling about internet marketing is that there are very few people who are successful (and by that it could mean an extra $500 a month or $5000 - depends on your own situation).

John, I'm sure you'd agree that in your case you are probably amongst the exceptions at being happy at your achievements.

But the vast, vast majority of people are failing because they seem to be following the strategy of creating huge amounts of websites trying to make a $1 or two a day. And if each of those sites cost you $300 then yes it would be expensive and you'd be bust.

But if you work on creating one or two quality websites that can create a few hundred or thousand dollars per month then $300 a year to run it seems very cheap to me.

Still, those sales pages make it sound a whole lot easier to create dozens of websites a week...

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Darren
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- Pat T 14 years ago
  
  These are all great discussions on SiteBuild It. I owned a SiteBuild It site, one of my first.
  
  I believe the product is expensive however the information and learning you receive from the process is well worth the cost.
  
  Did it feel restrictive to me? Yes. It has improved from the block by block building since I created my site. I also used BANS which was a good tool.
  
  With any product you use you have to determine what the end result you want or what your goals are. Is your goal to create many sites? If so, SiteBuild It can be very expensive.
  
  However if you want to learn how to create an internet business and have all the tools available SiteBuild It can be great for a newbie.
  
  It did teach me many things I was not familiar with when starting. Content development, keyword density, and how to monetize your website.
  
  Unfortunately the process was too slow for me because at that time I wanted to see the end result which some newbie's want immediately. I didn't treat my business like a business therefore lost interest. That is another thing. You have to be interested in the site you are building. Knowledge helps too. I lost interest it what I created. I had about 50 pages on my site but got bored in the subject. Let it go.
  
  So it is going to depend on the person's needs and what they want but I would recommend any newbie check it out. If you are looking for instant riches get off the computer. There is no get rich quick scheme.
  
  To be successful on the internet it will require WORK!
  
  Just my two cents.
  
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Patricia1

14 years ago

We built our first site using SBI and it was easy enough and the backup was great.
The only drawback is the price.

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michaelr7 14 years ago

Site Build It is excellent for newbies. Great for clearing up the confusion and information overload that newbies experience.

Aside from the fact that you don't have to know any techie stuff, you get solid training in all the basics. Niche research, Keyword research, on-page SEO, etc.. The building process is designed in such a way that a person could not proceed with finishing a site unless they get to understand all the basics. My 1st site (back in '02) was also done with Site Built It. I had a bad case of info-overload before, but things fell in place nicely after I built that 1st site.

But as mentioned in this thread, once people have built that 1st site and get more experience, they tend to move on. No point in spending $290 for each additional site.

Michael
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