jkatzenback

1. that was a spelling.. it was meant to say:

"80% of the sites might NOT be around"

2. You are referring to sites from early 2006... 4 years ago... strategies change and that technology is out dated, pretty much any system (xsite pro, content desk or anything similar) that build sites back then had a different system.

I am not going to defend PF here, obviously you did not have a good experience and you seem to remember a lot of the negative.. which is pretty much normal for someone with a bad experience. So that being said, you are right.. for you it was a bad experience and i apologize for that... wish it wasn't.

One thing to consider however, is you seemed to overlook TrafficKahuna and PPCKahuna and how well those were received right away... yes PF did not go smooth but you are jumping 4 years and not looking at improvements in between.

Anyway, wish you luck and wonder.. are you full time and making a good living now with IM?

wayne60618

I am a member and here is my view on things. Let me preface this that I have not gotten some aspects of Web2Mayhem software to work for me. Support was very quick to respond. The issues have not been resolved, but part of that is my fault as I have not been working with support past the first few emails. I just haven't had time to deal with it...Now, I do expect this stuff to work and I hate having my time sucked into dealing with these types of issues, but I could be more aggressive getting it solved.

Ok, the good. The training is very good due to the detail. The strategy is sound. It's basically about using various linking strategies like, RSS, PAD submission, video submission, article submission, and blog submissions. Add to that social bookmarking...Obviously this stuff works, but it can be time consuming to set all this up and then promote the promoters.

The software helps to automate this, but it's not a entirely automated solution...Probably good as too much automation is easily detectable. I'm not a huge fan of the spinner. The profile creator is a auto populator which is useful. It would be great if there was more orginzation to the profiles, like parent child relations, tying them to various projects etc and you sort of can with some creativity with your naming conventions.

Not sure about the membership long term. I already use AMA and don't really need another blog network. Alot of the other stuff I can do with IM Revolution and it's proven to be easier to use and encapsulated in one piece of software as opposed to using multiple disparate tools...Although I don't like the spinner in that much either, but it only a one time cost.

As to results, I can't offer anything here other than to say the strategy does make sense and I can see where someone who diligently applies the process will get results.

Wayne

abs007

Sounds very interesting - I currently use senuke and Linking loophole. I do my software submission myself so I can see the pad generator being a big plus in this software. I also lack blog comments so can see comment kahuna really adding some value - However I have used CK before when it was available free of charge - I couldnt really get my head around it - TBH I didnt spend much time on it.

However I realize how important it is to have blog comments so when CK is available to us again then I will certainly give it another go but this time spend some time to work with it.

I would also love a trial run of the new Web2Mayhem software either a free trial or a reduced rate to check it out. If you can not do a free trial then maybe divide the cost by 4 and do a weeks subscription for all that want to test it.

Senuke is working great for me and can not really see me leaving them unless I can get more or less the same service elsewhere. I think they will be adding Press release soon which is a big plus.

However im extremely keen to make use of CK

cheers

rhab

I got the latest email about limited quantities... I am understanding that the limited quantities are the fast action bonuses correct?

You're not "closing your doors" to the membership right? As it does seem from comments within this thread that you do plan to offer a trial setup. I'm so tempted just to join up now since I do see you offering a 100% money back guarantee, but have to think it over a bit more.

Thanks...

jkatzenback

Sorry for the late reply... ya that is just about the fast action bonuses.

We are still not 100% on the trail membership and to be honest the reason is due to demand on our resources. For example our blog network that has thousands of blogs is an extremely powerful tool but if we suddenly flood it with $1 trial members then it could cause issues.

You see we control and moderate the content (each article is manually approved before being sent out) and there are limits to how many post the blogs accept, some only accept 1 and others a max of 10 per day... and we honestly already have more members then we really thought we would get for the time of year we launched.

But to be 100% honest the biggest issue right now is having clear minds to set this out. I am 90% sure i will be offering some sort of trial offer but what that actually involved and when... well i cant answer that... i do know however that there will be some restrictions applied such as limiting the blog network submissions.

Anyway... hope you are all having an wonderful holiday season.

ShaneRQR

I've just completed a video that goes through all of the features included in W2M. So, if you've ever wanted to know exactly what tools and services are included, give this a go:


I am currently testing every aspect of W2M for an upcoming review.
I would love to get some input from you. Do you have specific questions regarding W2M, that you would want to see answered in a review? Anything you would like to see demonstrated or explained on video?

I was initially planning to do videos for each of the features, like I did with SEO Elite, but in W2M, there's just too many of them. I'd have to do about 20 videos just to cover everything. So, it would be great if I could find out what exactly people want to know, so I can pick the best/most relevant stuff to include in videos.
Thanks.

Dexx

Wow Shane! Very detailed review, well done!

rhab

Nice job Shane, web2mayhem should have paid you to help them with their sales page =p

I'm looking forward to your coverage on the web 2.0 element you mentioned. I'm also wondering if the account creation in web2mayhem is as automated and as smooth as it is in SEnuke. A video showing this process would be nice.

ShaneRQR

Thanks, Dexx. (That's not the review yet, though)

@rhab: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll make a video about the account creator.

Daniel McGonagle

Shane well done buddy...

John (Canuck) you never contacted me, no worries there.

I had to cancel this membership I had because my outsourcer couldn't do everything I needed, like the time sucking accounts creation and what not....

Aside from all the features and tools they have, here's where you need to see the differences between Web2Mayhem and Senuke and BruteforceEvo et al...

#1 - They give you a plan of action that's easy to follow (SE Nuke doesn't which is typcial of coders and programmers who make high-end high performaing software, they assume people should know how and why yo tuse their tools, although SE NUKE does have a great lively forum and Joe or Areeb sometimes email members some great threads and even some free ebook action plans their members came up with.

#2 - You're harnessing Web2's pre-existing networks like Syndicate Kahuna and Traffic Kahuna too if I am not mistaken, plus leveraging their article directory which serves as an article submitter in and of itself.

Not too many services have that type of harnessing leveraging power...Most services like SENuke and Evo have you creating new sites on web 20 properties, which Web2M also can do, but the really effective backlinks comes form existing, indexed older sites with some "trust" to them.

If I was a newbie without a plan or a newbie without any traffic generation tools, this is where I'd start first. Unfortunately for me, I didn't have the time, the right outsourcer, nor the inclination to create yet another whole new series of email addresses, social bookmark accounts etc... to move forward with a review base don actual usage.

All I can say is that this is solid stuff here and will probably cost you less to use Web2Mayhem than it would to use an amalgamation of other resources.

On the other hand, you can buy a whole slew of one time fee tools that will do almost everything Web2Mayhem does, aside from tapping into and harnessing their networks and web 2.0 co-op bookmarking.

ShaneRQR

Finished my video showing the account creation process.

Two things about this:

1. I only show two solo account creations, because of time constraints. The auto-function just does what you see in the video, in rapid-fire succession.
2. Sorry if this seems rough around the edges here or there. I had to do some crude editing to stick to the YT time limit.

So, here's the video:


More suggestions welcome!

degcommunications

Anyone know about any software or sites that offer these types of automation with the ability to manage hundreds of sites from one interface and upload my own content for scheduled uploading and such.

ShaneRQR

Do you mean your own sites like self-hosted WordPress blogs?

ShaneRQR

Here's another video showing off the auto-submission process to several sites, uncut:

rhab

Shane, thanks again bro for taking the time to make those videos, I appreciate it.

honestbizpro

I agree thanks much Shane! Do you make videos for others? Or thought about it?

ShaneRQR

Thanks for the comments, guys! It's always good to know whether my videos are useful to anyone or not.

honestbiz: In an other market (not IM), I've made a couple of videos for companies. It can be a bit of a pain in the ass to make videos according to someone else's ideas, so I'm very selective about who I work with and what projects I work on.

But yes: I'm open to making videos for others.

waynez

You can try BlogMatrixPro by JP Schoeffel.

blogmatrixpro.com

abs007

shane some excellent video reviews. Well done.

I hope we can work something out so that you can do a review for mine and jeffs up and coming software soon to be released. It will also have a scheduler built in. Check out the signature for more details.

I will PM you when its closer to the time.

Thanks

JoeCool

Shane,

All three of your posted videos in this thread say:

"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

What gives?

As a professional reviewer, you may want to look into getting an Amazon S3 account to host your videos instead of being at the mercy of the "free" YouTube (Google) platform.


Best Regards,
~ JoeCool

ShaneRQR

Thanks for the heads-up, Joe. I just noticed myself and was slightly shocked, to say the least.

I sent an inquiry into this, since I didn't ever receive a warning and the videos are all original material etc. Don't know what's going on.

Most of my videos are uploaded with at least four other hosts as well, but the W2M ones aren't yet, because I went over the distribution limit on TubeMogul for December.
Will have them up and running again in a few hours, though.

Again, thanks for messaging me.

pavionjsl

Fire pow hands down

honestbizpro

Good to have options..I never considered that one but will now.

ShaneRQR

Um... it seems to be back. Everything back to normal, except my subscribers were wiped.

Still no word on why this happened.

Here's my newest one:


Working for everyone?

For the videos on my site, I'll probably use S3 from now on.

Pat Lovell

Does W2Mayhem give you the ability to create several User Profiles? What I mean is, I have multiple websites that have different email addresses, social accounts, etc... and I want the ability to work on one site, then change profiles to another. Is this possible?

I use SENuke but haven't found a way to make multiple profiles for my sites.

ShaneRQR

Yes, you can create multiple "identities" and do seperate account creation runs for each of them.

For the submissions, you then simply choose for which profile you want to submit your articles/videos/whatever.

creativentrepreneur

Hi Shane,

Thanks, and excellent job in covering the Web2Mayhem product features.

Have you done a video on the "Web 2.0 Co-Op" piece ... I am interested to see how this piece works ... I think this would be the most powerful piece in the entire system ... I'll be looking out for it.


Andy

ShaneRQR

Since you ask...

creativentrepreneur

Shane,

Awesome ... thank you for the quick response .... your presentation is very crisp and clear.

This is indeed the powerful piece in the product offering ... which enables you to create 'social buzz' vs simply getting back-links ... I think we will start to see more and more of these social syndication networks emerging in the following months.

Andy

ShaneRQR

Here's my final verdict on Web2Mayhem, delivered in short, easily-digestible video form.


Cheers,
Shane

maverick4u

Nice balanced review. I wish I could find more reviews like this. Do you have any plans to review Linkdozer? It looks like it could be a killer system although less automated than SENuke and Web2mayhem.

Incidentally I tried getting on your site RichQuickReview but it doesn't seem to want to load.

ShaneRQR

Thanks for the tip about Linkdozer, I'll have a look into that.

Yeah, RQR is not accessible right now. No idea why (certainly not something I did). Hosting support is looking into it. Thanks for pointing it out.

EDIT: RQR is back up again.

sgooey

Will Web2Mayhem offer any specials for WF War Room members?

areaK

Glad I found this thread. I've had Web2Mayhem for a while now but the downloadable automated tool (the actual Web2Mayhem part) doesn't work well for me. Fails way too much, I can create and submit more by hand because it fails so often (had the same problem when I originally got it and tried it). I am going to run another test on it soon and will see if it does any better this time. (and I'm running XP)

And it seems some of the article submissions that do go through leave parts of the spin code in there that I have to fix by hand; I HATE that it doesn't run in the background so I can't even accomplish anything else while it's 'trying' to run...a sound that it needs your attention (potentially even a small pop up window that's unobtrusive) would be WAY better because I don't like having to just sit, wait and watch...and watch it fail over and over particularly. It's quite clunky and I hope to see it get better.

Now the inside/online tools I love. They are my fav parts of my membership and I would have discontinued long ago if not for them. (even though the article submission part of that annoys me too, HATE TOKENS, they're very annoying and much easier to mess up than regular html code (which is the reason they are supposedly used over allowing you to just insert regular html code) so I'd really like to see that change too.

Hope it gets better, less clunky, more successful, and easier to use as far as those tokens =) Could be the most awesome thing on the planet then.

pavionjsl

Want a cheaper way you might consider using

1. Roboform - logins in all you 2.0 property's, never gets hung up, and you take a few extra minutes to set up the site better then all these high priced monthlys do.

2. RSSBot 8.95 when on sale - works like theirs just a one time fee

3. Socialbot - 8.95 when on sale also a one time fee

4. Padbot - also a onetime fee

Yes its a little bit longer but, it saves a fortune in the long run and if you invested the money in good original content probaly be more or as effective as.

And for most that say they do not have all the extra time for a few more steps..................stop wasting time reading junk and getting off course. We are all guilty of this. These high priced seo services are fine but they really take advatage of us wanting to be lazy. It would be nice to have a good service, more reasonable in pricing then 100+ dollars a month and actually work without us being ginny pigs paying to use it. Value, it works right, always, and for less with out any one being able to spend resources not being able to try things. But for all those that just got to push the paypal button hoping for the best as stated before Big Mike is putting together a one stop seo item and it will be more reasonably priced then many others. Good luck.

TheProdigy

Hmm...sounds like I'll be holding off on this until all the bugs get fixed.

ShaneRQR

About the spin-code: W2M does not support nested spinning (spinning within spinning). I have no idea why, but I guess that's the reason you got a submission with spin-code left over in the articles. Always check several previews before you submit.

areaK

It didn't contain nested spinning =) I didn't get it in every article but for some reason a piece or two would be in some of the articles...articles that would actually submit.

Jack Blankenship,RN

Nice job on your review videos!

Very well laid-out and you can tell that you have had experience with producing videos.

Jack

JeromyS

This video says it all, pretty much. There is a lot of power overall in Web2mayhem, but there have been some frustrations. I ran into the same thing you talk about on this video, the account creator issue. I ran it through the first time, and of course had quite a few conflicts because I did have accounts at many of the site registered either to my email or to my user name. The next run I chose a brand new email and username. I still ran into some problems (less than the first run) and subsequently couldn't use the tool for a number of sites with the user settings. It would be nice to see this added as a feature (and I wouldn't be surprised to see it), the ability to add a different password, username or email to individual sites. I also think it would be handy to be able to filter the sites out a bit, filter completed, option to hide sites from the list, etc, but thats me being picky. Overall this software is very powerful and it is great to see them keep adding new sites. They are on this thing, its updating often. But only other grip would be the price, over the duration of a year, it adds up to a lot of money.
You have done a great job of reviewing this product. If only every review would be so honest and detailed.
Cheers!
JeromyS

jkatzenback

I am not sure if i can add this but since it was requested a bunch, Web2Mayhem now has the $1 trial so you can see what it is like.

Clint Butler

Its been almost six month since its release can anyone post a review as to their results from using this for that period of time?

Andrew Wilson

I can not offer a review of six months.
I came upon W2M ages ago and I confess I ended up walking away, it was not what I was looking for, just as BruteForce, SEONuke, Linkwheel Builder and the Incansoft tools were not what the vendors might have wanted us to think they were. Like some of these tools, W2M has matured and grown.

In the meantime I have used Brute Force, then EVO2, Linking Loophole, Ankur Sharma's Linkwheel builder and a metric shedload of Incansoft tools.

I came back to W2M a few days ago vis Syndicate Kahuna.

These are first impressions based upon several years of working in this field. BTW, I was and have been a PortalFeeder member since Day1, December 2005, I took down the last of my PF sites and updated them only a few months ago, they had been running since late 2005/early 2006. Not many of the tools we use last so long.

Here's my thoughts about Web2Mayhem:

1) there is a lot in the box

2) there is a lot to get your head round

3) the basic concepts are strong, basic principals tell me that the results from using the tools as per the training from Jason K and others will only NOT be good if the implementation by the user is poor.

4) the account setup works very well, but one does need to give a second of thought to the usernames, but this is an issue common to this type of softwarea nd the W2M system works just - the second time. First time I was using names that were duplicated on some sites.

By the way, on a partial run-through I got signups at 65 from 69 sites, a 94% success rate, with almost no intervention from me. It would have been a tad lower if I was away from the PC but the system enables one to go back and correct failures.

5) the range of sites chosen is huge and balanced toward quality. Using this tool correctly one is not going to be spamming up Airfix Modelling forums with dog blanket sig lines. I see that the accounts will NOT need to be set up over and over again other than for maintenance purposes.

6) I liked that each of the classes of sites can be used seperately or in concert.

7) I like that when running the tool one is not submitting links for the vendor as seems to happen with another tool I tried.

8) Doing the preparation for submissions takes more work (if done as per vendor instruction) than some other tools but this is in the aim of quality. One CAN also do submissions QBD (quick but dirty).
I like that the emphasis is upon keeping accounts alive rather than slash and burn.

9) I am having problems with the way windows keep popping up and interrupting my work, this baby is going to have to move over to another machine in a few hours. BTW, that is not possible with most of the tools that might compete in this space, here, no issues, W2M is nicely portable.

10) I like that this is a set of tools that enable, they do not prescribe. By that I mean that I choose how to use the beast. I choose how to set it up, I control the quality of the input and output.

11) the coders are obviously well up with maintaining the sites, they make it easy to report dead sites and to suggest new ones for addition. The database is updated several time a month, something I have seen nobody else doing.

12) this is not a tool for the absolute newbie, even though the training makes it perfectly possible for newbies to use - frankly most will be scared off by the work involved and the thinking that goes into getting the best from the tool. If you know nothing and don't want to learn then EVO2 is the way to go. I will continue to recommend EVO2 and Linking Loophole to the right people.

13) some in this thread have recommended the Incansoft tools. I use them and am a reseller of them. They are cheap and if you are a hobbyist or wanting to suppport a website that brings in leads for your VA business or speaker bureau then I'd not suggest anything other than the Incansoft tools. For these people, Web 2 Mayhem is overkill.
If you are a dedicated tinkerer and twiddler then again, Incansoft rules. I fully expect to continue to recommend the Incansoft bots, but to the right people.

So, I'd say give the low cost trial a whirl but 14 days may well not be enough unless you do as I am doing and spend time getting your elbows dirty. Use the support desk and the forum to ask questions, read the blueprints and implement them. The first couple of times you use the W2M software be prepared to sit down and watch what it is doing, I assure you that the time put in at the beginning will pay off in spades later on.

JeromyS

I was a member for a few months when they first launched. I think probably one of the most important things to realize with this type of tool is that you need content....and a lot of it. I found that the bulk of my time was spent preparing articles and such for submission.

It is a great tool for creating accounts, you can pump them out all day long if you want, without too much trouble.
I stopped using it because I didn't feel I was utilizing it enough to justify the price. Perhaps a side business of creating accounts for others (WSO perhaps) would help to offset the cost. And if you have employees to produce your content (quality is sooooo important, this is why IMO PF died, users submitting garbage content), or to run the software for you, or create and manage your sites, etc. Basically what I found is that I simply do not have the capacity to create my websites, write and spin articles and operate the software all on my own. I can, but as I say, it takes time and ultimately results in me not using the software as much as I think it should be used for the subscription cost. I wish there was a 'lite' version for people like myself that may not need to use the software more that a few times a month (once a week or so).

There was nothing wrong with my results.

I tested it the first run with a high competition keyword, just to see how it would do. With that promotion, which spanned a couple of weeks (part time) I was able to go from 1-30 hits a day to my site (PR 0) to around 100+ per day (lots of spiders) and PR 1. I ran a few other keywords through the same accounts with lower competition keywords and did realize some organic traffic. I didn't make any money off of these campaigns, but that was my own fault not the system. I didn't focus enough on 'buying' keywords.

The real key here if you want this software to work for you, and it can work well in the right hands, is you must be reasonably intelligent (sorry, there is a lot to learn, a lot to understand and simple minds just won't get it). Smart Newbies can learn and work this, but expect to cram like your back in University, there is A LOT to learn. Also, this is for people that expect to work...no set and forget pitch here (I am of the mind that there isn't really a set a forget way to make money online). A person that expects to work and strives to product only quality will appreciate what W2M has to offer. If your lazy, or learn slowly, or don't have considerable time to invest, this tool is probably best to pass on.

I really liked the software and service. My thought is to join again in the future. But I am waiting till I have a few different campaigns to use it to promote. Too bad there isn't a one time payment option, or a lower service level, I would be a lifer. I think what these guys have built is by far the best of its kind out there.

I would be curious to know if anyone else has had the same experience as me?
J

shamlet

Web2Mayhem is now offering a 14 day trial for just $1.00.

Will give it a go and let you know what I think.

Dexx

Is the online video upload/submission service working now?
(It was announced as coming soon back in January)

shamlet

Have just completed the account creation for all of the various submissions which did include the video and all accounts were created.

Have not submitted any videos yet, will let you know when I have.