Dexx

Anyone else get email on this thing?

Dramatically Increase Your Website Traffic Today with the Web 2 Mayhem

It's by the same guys that made TrafficKahuna, PPC Kahuna, and PortalFeeder, looks like they've came up with their own Automated Software to "end all automated software" programs.

Doesnt seem like there's ever been much for issues or concerns with their previous software programs, (which hasn't been the case for other "automated" programs) so I'm excited to see how this goes!

Anyone else get emails on it?

G Singh

Yep, I got the email too.

Not sure how it's different to the other software programs though.

Gurpreet

Dexx

i think THE biggest difference is access to their private SyndicateKahuna network which is basically like having an SENuke membership combined with LinkVana for a fraction of the cost.

There's also a PAD software submitter which probably works off a similar idea that was used by the guy from JohnCow to get 4 Page 1 google rankings in 18hours or something:

4 Rankings of Page One of Google in Less than 18 Hours – Took Me 22 Minutes ONLY! | Johncow.com

bnmguy

Yes, there are all of these things in the Program. And actually, one of the creators IS the guy from John Cow.

I was a Beta Tester for the program and I love it. It's really worth every penny.

G Singh

bnmguy,

How automated is the software then?

Also, how long does it take to complete one full run of it?

brainworker

I just joined yesterday -- overall very impressive stuffs inside.

If tt it works I should be able to fire SeNuke, 1 way links, 3 way links etc.

Will share more details here

RB

rhab

I'd be interested in hearing from an SENuke owner who has also had the opportunity to try this. Obviously the comparison will come up eventually. I currently have SENuke myself.

With a couple additional features, this system sounds like it could potentially be better. Using both of course is nice I'm sure, but I don't see the need for it.

donnyh

Oh man, just tried the automated software. Can't believe they actually launched this.

You sure Peter Drew didn't come up with this? Because I couldn't get a single submission to go through successfully. Kept getting the message "Looks like something went wrong" and then the whole thing shuts down. Failure after failure. No multi-threading either, so you can only attempt to do one website at a time. The user interface is straight up childish. So many spelling mistakes. And you have to go through "Step 1" of account creation... then "Step 2". Where's the automation in that? And where's the automatic email verification? Looks like there isn't any.

If you wanna stop the program there's no way to even stop it? You have to shut down the entire software. Seriously? The stop button is greyed out. Plus their site list is tiny compared to SEnuke's. If they wanna compete with that monster, they have a long way to go.

I want a refund. How come they don't offer a free trial like SEnuke so that people can test it out before having to shell out the $127?

I'm sure this package is good for all the other bonuses that come with it, but if you really care about automation software to create and post to Web 2.0 properties, stick with SEnuke for now. Looks like it will probably take these guys a year to catch up.

jkatzenback

Did you read the instructions lol... you need to have your UAC turned off for it to work.

If you are running vista or windows 7 you need to do the following to allow the software to run:

Make sure that you are logged in as an administrator

Global Instructions:

1. go to "Control Panel"
2. then "User Accounts"
3. then again "User Accounts"
4. then, "Turn User Account Control" and set it to Off
5. restart your computer.

Do this and it will work like a charm

donnyh

Yes I read the instructions. I'm on XP, so that doesn't apply to me. And no it doesn't "work like a charm". These bugs are with the software itself. Not a "user accounts" toggle that can fix everything magically. I have a lot of experience with designing software so please don't ridicule me like that.

jkatzenback

No one is ridiculing you, the software is not new and it is not full of bugs... I was laughing cause you seemed all too eager to slam it without even giving it a chance... it is not full of bugs liek you say but i am not going to argue.

The fact is no software works perfect on everyones machine, right away but if you are not happy with it ask for a refund. We will be quick to honor it.

I have to ask though, did you even put a support request in, cause there is no one else complaining about your issue... and i see no ticket in support.

wrays

Hello JohnCow,

May I ask you a question...??

In the Web 2 Mayhem sales page, it mentions the following.....

"Article Distributor -- Yes, article submissions work. Especially when you use our content tools to create Googlicious content."

My question is.....

Do we need to fork out additional money to buy the "content creation" tool??

Cheers,
wrays.

jkatzenback

Nope... there are no additional costs for any of our tools. We do however have api integrations with decaptcher and spinning services ike autojetspinner... so if you want to integrate them can can pay for them and use them, but our content tool is part of the package.

jswanson

Web2Mayhem sounds like a really interesting program. But I agree with others, it would be nice to see a 7 day free trial like other programs out there are offering. Or, at least, some videos showing how it works. I just feel like I need more info before making a purchase.

rhab

I'll keep my eye out on the feedback as it comes out from warriors who try this out. Personally, with a system like this at this price tag, not offering a trial period really puts me off. I also don't like that the sales page was nothing but text, I don't know about everyone else but I would have liked to seen some video and some screenshots. I'm sure you'll honor refunds, but not allowing people to take this for a test drive I think will hurt sales a bit.

If the promoters of this system are putting their product up against the other big dogs, especially SENuke which is tried and proven, I highly suggest offering a trial period and letting us see under the hood.

That sounds really good, and if all the features are as good as promoted on the sales page, I'd definitely be interested. But again, the majority of the sales page are glowing testimonials, and that's just not gonna cut it for me and I'm sure the majority of warriors here.

If this thing is as good as it's cracked up to be, you can't go wrong with the standard $1 / $7 free trial period...

ShaneRQR

I thought the same thing. With SENuke anf BFSEO Evo 2 already out there, Incansoft having announced an upcoming all-in-one automation package and SEOmated being another one already announced, my first thought when Web2Mayhem was "revealed" was "what else is new?"

I'd also have to see video demos or preferably get a trial to be convinced. Especially at that price.

Definitely looking forward to seeing some reviews/opinions etc.

Christian Fox

Waiting for a trial period... If it performs as stated it can only help sales.

I don't trust sales pages, especially ones without video and definitely for an app like this.

If not it seems they are counting on people not canceling, aka Red Flag.

jkatzenback

We are split testing the hell out of the landing page... yes we are going to be testing video as well. Believe me... the testimonials are real, the results are real and this is a cool system (yes i am biased.. lol). Anyway, i honestly appreciate the feedback on stuff for the sales letter... its not going unnoticed... we have lots of things we are testing. Sadly even with the FTC stuff people still don't trust testimonials.

Anyway, you will be able to see inside soon enough

dominodivine

I like what the software has to offer but I would also like a trail... or at least some sort of video showing the product being used.

I dont think it is a lot to ask with the monthly price tag.

Daniel McGonagle

Here's some screenshots and a 3 part review showing the tools and the software if anyone's interested

Web2Mayhem - What does it do? Web2Mayhem Review Part 1 - Link Building - Link building Services

I joined it today per request of a blog reader

Daniel McGonagle

SENuke will create new email addys for you and auto-verify them as you know.

Web2Maybehm doesn't do that at all, so you gotta create anew email addy if you want to create new RSS and SB accounts, which ix exactly what I had to do because I've pretty much used all of my existing email addys up.

But like the OP said, you get Syndicate Kahuna with this so that's the real value the rest is just time saving stuff, and useful for what it does

Daniel McGonagle

Donny it'd help if you bought the recaotchas to save yourself the aggravation during account creations.

John, software needs a skip button when it gets hung up on an account creation or submissions, in addition to the continue and Go buttons.

Donny, my submissions went through ok as did most account creations.

John, software needs an email creator and auto verification of registration set up.

The step 1,2, and 3 blueprint and diagrams are excellent very straightforward good job on that part.

Thanks,

Dan

jkatzenback

Thanks for the feedback and the kudos on the training... it has an email creator but with so many services not accepting gmail now we pulled it. Reworking it and going to include the auto-verification with it too... got a plan

Your idea of the software needs a skip button when it gets hung up on an account creation or submissions, in addition to the continue and Go buttons. Got it and YES.. love fresh eyes looking at it.

Daniel McGonagle

No problem...

I contacted you via your blog today to do an interview about this... but perhaps I'd better use it for a while so I have better questions, looking to create a "best practice/getting started " if/when I recommend this to people.

Hope you understand the jury's still out since I only joined today....

Question for you, Web2 members, what Syndicate Kahuna network are we gaining access to, the same one that's available for free, or was available for free at one point or a larger network?

Good news on the email creator thing, I didn't get much done with Web2Mayhem today because I've used all my email addys up already.

You can contact me on my skype to hear about some other additions you'd want to include with web2 that would make me promote this and recommend this without hesitation..

Hint; you're not doing it nor coming anywhere's near doing it with Web2, but obviously can be done quite easily.

Also, you probably want to add in another articlefeeder profile for twitter feed syndication since you're hammering twitterffed and twitter with a lot of auto re tweets and causing some bandwidth issues for them (I actually saw this when I was googling some article titles from ArticleFeeder and saw the Twitter real time search results for the article titles)

Hope that makes sense

Thanks again,

Dan

rhab

Sounds good, even before the FTC thing testimonials didn't hold water much for me, need to have more =p

Glad to hear you're working towards incorporating the video and screens. The system really does sound good, which is why I'd love to try it out as it could potentially replace other things I'm using.

jkatzenback

Dan I would love to talk with you... give me a couple days though, how about early next week.

There still is a free SK but that is for adding your blogs, there is no free use for publishing your content. We closed SK down because we revamped it and tied it into web2mayhem, we will be reopening it for good very soon... do not want to get too distracted.

I am putting some cool training together to help people add their blog to SK as a content source and take advantage of the free content... giving a marketing plan and will include a few tools as well.

wrays

Hi Dan,

Thanks for sharing some great info...

By the way, what is "email addys"???

Is this some kind of alias or fake email??

- wrays.

Daniel McGonagle

Hi, sorry about that, it's my lazy way of saying email addresses (email addys)

scarob2

I just wanted to chime in here. I have been a member of Syndicate Kahunna for just over a year. From my experience, a lot of the blogs in their network are newer, low rank blogs, but every once in a while, a real good one shows up. I learned this from looking at Yahoo Site explorer.

With that being said, there is a reason I renewed. Even if only 20% of the blogs are aged and high ranked, that's still a big boost to your rankings. And even the lesser blogs are still providing a one way backlink. And that's still a good thing.

I haven't joined W2M yet because I just renewed SK for a whole year and I am trying to convince them to give me a discount based on that.

I also have Brute Force Evo2. That works great, so far. Between the 2 of them, I'm getting a lot of backlinks.

I haven't tried SENuke. I haven't needed to. Maybe I should someday.

Dexx

How much is SK normally each year? (since its included in the W2M fees)

Also, having used the SK blog myself with W2M, even though there might be some newer/low PR blogs in the network, each blog has content and is INDEXED in Google, which means Google will find your links on them.

The same cant be said for most Web Directories, and most of the blog networks, where you could have you link posted on hundreds of pages, but if Google never crawls those pages, you'll never get indexed.

Blogs in the SK network get a constant drip of fresh/unique content (that has been reviewed and approved by Admins) which brings Google coming back on a very high basis to check what new things have been added to each blog =)

I only say this because I recently had two videos (which I promoted through W2M) land #4/#5 on Google for "[product] review" of a product I'm promoting right now...there's 8 sponsored listings on the first page and I've already had over 300 views.

There is over 260,000+ competing pages for the phrase, and it took me ONE submission through SK of both video links to get the ranking.

Just saying =)

Edit: Don't get me wrong, by no means do I care whether people sign-up for W2M or not (since its less competition for me) but I've been a Warrior here since 2007 and since this is the Warrior Forum's product review area, I want to make sure quality products get the true credit they deserve...

...I've signed up (and cancelled) with SENuke TWICE...Linkvana for 3-4 months...signed up with Traffic Geyser and left in my 2nd month...

I just don't want anyone else to have to "trial and error" there way to results is all, but hey...feel free to do what I did anyway, I'll be using W2M in the meantime heh

scarob2

Syndicate Kahunna is $442 for the year. The monthly fee is $47, I think.

I appreciate the input on SENuke. I've also thought about trying Linkvanna (I think thats the name), but they are a little pricy for my blood.

jkatzenback

We will be opening the doors to SK permanently in the new year for $47 a month... we closed it because we were redoing the whole backend system with it.. then wanted it tested out again before we reopen. There are however some limitations with it that Web2Mayhem members will not have... but I will share more on that once i have 100% of everything worked out.

jjcali

Dexx - I tried SENuke for a 4 months and Traffic Geyser for 3 months. Both did not offer the value that I was hoping for.

What kind of results are you getting from W2M?

Do you use any tools from Big Mike?

ShaneRQR

I just want to let anyone interested know that I am currently testing W2M.

So far, I'm quite impressed with the sheer scope of it. There are way more tools and material in there than I had expected.
This also means that it will take me a while to really test everything out and be able to publish a proper review.
I'll be making some videos along the way, so for everyone willing to wait a little longer, I'll be trying to get relevant information and test results out there as quickly as I can.

samcarson

I think the price is quite high especially since it's recurring

scarob2

Here is a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. I have an account with ContentBoss and I love what it does. It rewrites an article and even can format it for spinning. The best part is that, unlike most article spinners, the articles actually make sense afterward.

Does W2M's spinner do both of these things? If not, which one does it do?

Dexx

Software Support + Cost of Further Software Development (Programming Costs) dont come cheap.

At the end of the day, unless you plan to actually take action and use the software...you're better off with a one-time payment software that you can touch once every three months (when you remember to use it)

If you actually focus, and dont get distracted, you pick an affiliate product with a $30 - $40 commission and by simply promoting it via W2M, you would be able to cover the monthly membership fee from 4-5 sales each month.

I think those that are serious about affiliate marketing, and actually take action (instead of buying the "latest tool") will find W2M gets them results.

Like I said, I just did a test promotion with W2M and the results spoke for themselves:

Now I'm actually in the process of building an authority website in my local offline niche (hope to finish it this weekend) at which point I plan to go after the Top ranking for my local google searches (SEO, search engine marketing, website design etc.)

At which point I'll come back and let you know the results!

What I truly love about W2M, is the fact that the entire system is designed to be a white-hat as possible.

Could black-hatters abuse it? Maybe.

But it would affect their sites, as they would have suspiciously vast growth.

But the system is broken down into phases, so that those who WANT their rankings to stick AND last, can obtain natural backlinks in a naturally growing way.

That and Jason K is constantly coming up with fresh training to improve results using the various tools...rumor has it there's a couple new tools being added to W2M in the near future which Jason has been testing himself and getting mindblowing results.

But ya...at the end of the day...the true affiliate marketers know that this tool gets results for those that use it. =)

Johncpu

Dont be so sure about that. I was part of the PortalFeeder crowd. So when I read the sales pagefor Web2Mayhem, I had to chuckle, especuially when I read the tagline: "STOP Wasting Your Time & Money with Garbage Ebooks & Software That Promise You Massive Traffic But Only Leave You More Confused & Frustrated Than Ever!"

I dont want to trash either product, but let me just offer a caution: the PF forum was filled with people having a difficult time getting things to do what they wanted. And I kept a list of many of the sites that were openly shared. Almost none of them are still around.

That was PF, and just maybe Web2Mayhem will be a great improvement. I hope so.

J

waynez

I am also one of the member. Did join a few days ago.

My impression so far... Not very good to very unhappy. Maybe in between of those 2.

It's not about the result, since I didn't have any just yet (well.. I only joined a few days ago). But it's about the WORTH of each tools combined altogether AT that price, also the "difficulty" of using the software. I ended up spending more time tweaking, testing, configuring this and that, than actually USING it.

But yeah, maybe it's still too early to judge everything. I still got time to playing around the tools. The trainings are good, covering lots of aspect on SEO, but you won't learn that much if you already know what basic SEO is.

I will come back again and tell how it goes for me in the next few days.

Daniel McGonagle

Hey Folks it's great that some are wiling to share their reviews and results....

When you reveal results such as

"ranked 4 and 5 for product name review on YouTube"

let's not lead people astray, letting them think this is impressive stuff, ranking well for long tail with vid marketing, c'mon now!

If you're going to offer up a review, mix things up by going after old terms you're not ranking page 1 for yet, plus new terms, plus easy, medium and difficult terms.

Offer up NOT the # of competing sites, which is a joke on newbies when trying to impress them, but offer up where you ranked before, where you rank now, how many sites were your real competition, how many articles or hours or minutes you spent to get however many backlinks you got.

And try it for 3 months before giving any feedback, who cares how hard or easy the tools are to use, seriously, that's not the review people are looking for...

You need to use a service for at least 30-60 days to get well acclimated to the software and tools or whatever, and to see if these results are going to be something you can rely on in the future.

Most "reviewers" will join a service, then either write a review based on frustration with the learning curve (negative review)

Or they write a positive review after using it for a week (which isn't enough time to get a real understanding of how solid or weak a service is, but newbies don't know that) just to sound authoritative and to throw up an aff link.

So far I've reviewed what the service does, what it consists of and have developed a testing environment for the Web2 service, meaning I had to find a site and some urls that could use some backlinks....

How effective this comprehensive service is remains to be seen, but it does a lot of everything that I am doing already so I know it works

rhab

Daniel makes the point that my original inquiry was looking for. The system was just released openly and I certainly do not expect to hear detailed reviews of the effectiveness regarding rankings yet from people who just signed up in the past couple days.

That being said I can expect and accept that after a few days ranking a long tail with good competition numbers would be possible. Long term and bigger projects however are another story. Each of us could do this and have done it manually.

Bottom line is I'm not concerned over whether or not the system or tools will achieve rankings. There are no secrets about what they are and both this system, SENuke, Brute Force and the others are simply automated or semi-automated tools to do what we do anyway to achieve rankings. So we know the tried and true methods behind the systems will work if used.

These tools are all great IF you've done the proper research for your keywords and niches, otherwise they are worthless.

What I'm wondering is do they carry out their functions properly, smoothly, what issues are there, how does it compare with other programs of similar nature. Primarily for me SENuke since I use that myself. I'm sure everyone remembers how buggy SENuke was in the beginning.

I'm not going to give up SENuke to endure growing pains of another similar program. However, if this program has other additional features that are a step beyond SENuke for instance, and the other systems are not full of issues, then maybe it's a fair trade off.

Daniel, looking forward to checking out your current review on it as from recently finding your blog, your reviews are excellent as you also include comparisons which help in deciding if a program or service is worth it or not.

For the current reviews, very appreciative of them as well. What would add even more value to those reviews would be commenting on the user side experience and how well the tools are actually performing and carrying out their functions, what is lacking, etc... Thanks!

scarob2

I still have no answer to this question. Does anyone have any input?

waynez

Well, at least I CARE..

If the software claims to have all OR most of the tedious and repeated task done by automation, then be it. At least that's what I expected when joining the memberships.

I know this kind of system work. Like everyone here does. Just the same as Linkvana, BacklinkSolution, MyArticleNetwork, SE Nuke etc, they work when we use them. The question is, which one is the BEST and the EASIEST to use.

I didn't intend to give a review or make a recommendation etc. Just came here to share my impression about the system. I don't think that I did mislead anyone because I clearly stated that "it's too early for me to judge bla2.."

So if anyone did find my post above is rubbish, just ignore it. We have the greatest reviewer on the planet here, so let's just listen to him.

Cheers

waynez

Actually, ContentBoss works very well with the W2M spinner.

Here is what stated in the membership regarding ContentBoss :

jkatzenback

Sorry you are having difficulty getting started but it is about getting into a groove. I will be the first to admit this might not be for everyone but i guarantee you that once you go through the full process (3 phase promo), not only will your results be noticeable but it will be very easy to use.

jkatzenback

When were you a member... first of all every site i used as live examples in the training are still alive and making money. As for the sites you are referring too. When you say sites openly shared... by who ... me or someone else, cause all my shared sites are still around.

As for what users have.. it comes down to the 80/20 rule... so ya, 80% of the sites might now be around... which is pretty much the case for any program around today. Some make it, others dont... the ones that do you focus on and improve, the ones that dont you let die.

There are members that have been with PF since December 2005 and pay a monthy fee every month and are making excellent money... so it obviously works for some.

Anyway for 100% of any the programs out there, can you name one that does not have a learning curve? Does not matter what the program is, it is not a magic button, you need to figure it out... the training i say even spells that out clearly. It will take a while to go through it the first couple of times but then it will get easier and easier and faster and faster.

Anyway, i know not everyone will be happy.

Jeremy Kelsall

I thought someone said there was some sort of trial to the software?

I've got a slew of people in different programs of ours asking about this software - so, if there is a way to "try it out" can someone point me to a link?

jkatzenback

No trial set up right now... the biggest reason s we did not want to get too bombarded with people in the blog network right away. We will be doing something with a trial in a few weeks probably. I will keep you all posted.

freudianslip27

SENuke has been very good to me, but of course I am willing to give this a chance. A free or cheap trial is really needed though to get myself and others like me onboard to give it a shot.

This stuff is great for local business rankings.

Matt

Johncpu

I was a member when if first started, and I wasn't referring to the site used as an example by Jason and team. The sites Iam talking about were shared in the forum by users who wanted critiques or who were desparate for someone to help them make it work.

By my count the drop off rate was more like 50%. I bookmarked 30-35 sites from forum discussions, including a few I found in the SEs (it was very easy to identify a PF site) Of those 35. About 1/2 of those were gone within 3-6 months. Im sure there are still a few paying members. There is always somebody that will make money with just about any system.

It wasn't about just a "learning curve". In my view, the software was extremely buggy, and based upon forum discussion, very tedious to use for lots of people. I just couldnt help but wonder if the new Web2Mayhem sales page wasnt subconsciously referring to PF when refering to other software that "Promise You Massive Traffic But Only Leave You More Confused & Frustrated Than Ever"

J