ben565

just go to the magic bullet method site and in video 3 he goes through the entire system showing what it does.Although by now it has probably already sold out as just about every guru out there was selling it

ComradeChen

yea, it's sold out now

rhj12345

Just got in!

I guess we will see

rhj12345

This still works.

Not my affiliate link, I don't have one. Just the one I used.

http://clicks.prosender.com/y/ct/?l=GWxHR&m=1ehvQrMN7gcD0P&b=J8jaJDcfU.RZB60G9p2iMQ

Hope this helps anybody who wants to join.

Rob

creativentrepreneur

Its not sold out .. still going strong ...

Andy

ComradeChen

oops my bad, thought it sold out cause when I clicked the link earlier it said Sold Out. Maybe they reopened it up to get more sales or maybe I'm just seeing things

eric w

i'm in also...amish says he's taking it down at 9:00 pm PST, which is 12:00 midnight EST (i think)

Chad Eljisr

I don't understand why there is so much fuss about the price. Beside the fact that Amish is recognized as a big success story in the CPA industry, he is delivering a valuable software and six weeks content that offers a time shortcut. Time is money, really. I don't want to spend 3 years learning on my own if I can shorten the learning curve to 6 months, and I am ready to pay for this time shortcut, of course if I can afford the investment.

I would not recommend anybody to pay $2,997 if he never created a CPA campaign or made any money with CPA.

Also, it is about positioning. Can you sell a Ferrari at the same price as a Honda?

Finally, as much money is Amish making through CPA, if he sells 500 copies and cash in $1,500 (the rest goes to JVs) per copy, it means that Amish has an extra $750,000 after 2 days of sales. Who does not want that kind of cashflow?

One more thing... How much does it cost to get a McDonalds franchise?... I still believe that $2,997 is a good investment taking into account the time and the potential return on investment comparing to a McDonalds franchise...

Anonymous Affiliate

The software is just a convenience tool, but it wont turn a losing campaign into a profitable one. If you're already profitable in CPA marketing, get it. If you aren't, don't expect any "magic bullet" software to change that.

Anonymous Affiliate

Any purchaser can share some feedback on what did you find upon signing up?

nobodyspecial

After clicking "order" you are offered an upsell to a $297/month mastermind (free first month).

After yes/no, you are taken to a thank you page and emailed a copy of the receipt. The email also states you'll receive another email with your login information (4 hours max).

I received mine after 20 hours. Upon logging in, there is a 26 min video from Amish and Jay, which explains their history/CV/experience.

Then, next is a video explaining what you will get in 6 or 8 weeks of training.

After that, you can watch a 7 min video showing a quick demonstration of the first module, "market research". The video quickly shows each tab, keywords, spy tool, niches, etc. It doesn't really explain how things work, more of a quick demo. Also, unlike the welcome videos, this video is quite small. When expanded to full screen, it is blurry. I hope they correct this otherwise it will be hard to follow.

What I find lacking is specific details on what is next. What is the date/time of the training? Should we be poking around trying things out or await further communication? Lack of specific directions.

So not much to report, positive or negative. There's some content, but nothing really to get us started on things. Guess we'll await communication with training details.

ahefner33

I don't know why it is but this seems to be the response to all big releases. Spending 3k on a product, you would think the 'detailed' reviews would be convincing to others that haven't bought.

Anonymous Affiliate

Hmmm... that's rather lame for a $3000 product! You'd expect a massive "welcome party" after having forked out 3k!

ohisee

To anyone that has purchased the Magic Bullet System: I was going to purchase the Magic Bullet System today, but I just discovered they closed down last night. I'd like to partner up with someone that purchased it yesterday and split the cost. Please contact me at rickl4981 at gmail. Thanks...I look forward to hearing from you.

udo

Usually you can learn much more from the way the product is marketed than from the product itself, amazing job by Frank Kern, that JV blog was very interesting, classic Mass Control.

Hey nobodyspecial, why don't you just go ahead and roll out a campaign? Is the software not functional yet?

From what I have seen in the launch video, it should not be that difficult to figure out, especially if you have worked with similar kinds of these tools before.

If I was you, I would just get rolling, make some money

Should be fun!

I am looking forward to your reports.

mjbacch

Wow, you are so right. Here we are on a “marketing” forum and no one wants to be marketed to. I guess the shoes on the other foot now.

If you guys hate marketing so much you are probably in the wrong business. You should learn from their efforts and not be so jealous or their success. You cannot succeed at what you hate and you can not attract what you distain. If you hate the thought of others being successful you yourself will never succeed.

Embrace success!

I applaud their efforts and I hope that just one single person runs with this system and shows all of you neigh Sayers that it is possible to have massive amounts of success online.

And as far as price is concerned, those who say it is too much need it the most.

perswealth

I can think of 1,498,500 reasons ; )

honestbizpro

Good Points,

I just hope he incudes an Action Plan that shows people how to quickly re-coup investment....I really think everyone wins that way from the reviews he would then receive.

eric w

Magic Bullet Review

After receiving my user name and password, i logged in and there was an intro video welcoming us and telling us what's to come in our training each week (nothing is mentioned about exact start date of training).

Amish and J Styles talk about themselves and their history with IM. Both say they make or have made at some point $50,000-$100,000 per day online.

There's also another video (a bit more than 7 minutes) showing you how to set up each project with the software

So, i kind of played around with the software and I found the module 1 training video.

This video shows you how to find a market and research the demographics of that market. This goes into detail including what sites to go to and much more.

Amish and J Styles (Jose Rivera) say that the software will do all of the stuff that they're showing..they would also like us to know how to go through the process on our own..but they repeat that the software has all of the features of the websites and processes that they mention.

I've also entered some keywords in the software and it spits out all kinds of cpa offers and how much they pay..you can also search for offers and specify payout.

That's what i've done so far....i'll do my best to make updates on the progress.

Just waiting on the formal training to start.

eric

RonHamernik

To me, it looks like these Warriors are trying to help those who are on the fence/need further information. At the same time, they're following the first rule of "Fight Club" and won't tell you exactly what they're encountering and doing with the product.

I'm a buyer and celebrate the fact that many won't buy. Will I keep it? Don't know yet, but I'm gonna give it a good run through and either leverage it or take them up on their guarantee if it is really warranted.

BTW, I am reeeeally interested in hearing from PPC Coach and others who have CPA networks. Specifically, I am wondering if they have similar tools available for nominal or no charge to their affiliates. Anyone know?

RonHamernik

Exactly. Also, here's three more:

Maybe they want to promote their CPA network and leverage affiliates to make more $.
Maybe they want to attract a couple of super affiliates and earn a bundle.
Maybe they want to read our data and cherry-pick the most profitable campaigns.

If the third is true, I say "so what" because I follow the abundance mentality. Besides, if I don't get a return, I can always get my money back. But I would rather jump in and find out one way or the other.

eric w

Right after I wrote my short review...i just got an email from Amish.

I just received my first tasks and what i'll be learning and what's to come later this week.

Here we go........

afxx

Need a Magic Bullet?
Get Preparation-H!
It is designed to relieve "CPA hemorrhoids" quicker & more painlessly than the latest gurus softwares.

ben565

You don't even own the software and yet you already seem to know so much about it, how would you know if won't turn a losing campaign into a winning won...exactly you don't know that,it is a shame when people make assumptions based of knowing nothing about it.

beksworld

Get a hold of yourself....to say people are not honest because they havent given you a manual to their space ship is a bit far fetched. Get on the software and figure it out if you have expereince....

beksworld

After submitting a support ticket asking for specific detailed training and why its not available, heres the email I recieved.........and in LIGHTNING SPEED too, they answered my email like at 10pm CST ........by the way, I AM A NEWBIE, wet behind the ears.....so lets hope I can prove some folks wrong....

lets hope..

here's the reply///

Hello there,

Don't worry. We are specifically designing our training to help people at all levels. Soon you will receive email updates advising you when the first training will be. If you are unable to attend for any reason, the webinars will be recorded and posted to a password protected area.

Please do not hesitate to call us with any questions throughout the process.

Stay tuned...the first course will be announced soo

ben565

wtf are you talking about there is now forced continuity or monthy fee,if you do not like the course then get a refund

eric w

First of all, the sales video clearly stated that there's 6 weeks of training..no surprise there.

There is no $200 charge for each section as you put it.

Did you start the homework assignment..the tasks for this week?

Now, i'm not a newbie when it comes to making money on the internet, but i am a newbie to ppc, cpa, ppv, etc.

In about an 1 hour, i was able to complete 50% of the tasks for this week..i have 5 sessions in the wizard.

How many have you done? and you mentioned no keywords..well, when you create a new session, click on the keyword tab, then enter your keyword(s), then click expand..and you'll have all of your keywords with analysis

..if you click one of the keywords that came up, then you'll get another list from that keyword you clicked, and you can keep digging like that

and then, right next to the keyword tab is the demographics tab..click it and enter a url from a website in the market you chose and you'll get all of the demographic info for that market url (age, gender, income, level of schooling, etc.)

just follow the instructions in the video for that section..very simple..especially since you said you're not a newbie

some of the stuff you're saying just doesn't make sense...i'm not doggin' you..but i've also invested in the MB

if you're not happy, just get a refund

veotis

That's the way it has ALWAYS been here, so called "internet marketers" complaining about being marketed to. To be really truthful, the majority of members here actually fall into the "herd" category. They'll never make it because of one important factor, their MINDSET!

SandraLarkin

Not to be negative but that makes me ill. I know nothing about the product, but it seems every big launch is something like this - with "market research" etc.


It just seems like same old same old. I hope I am wrong however.

Marketstriker

As for me I don't believe I can earn more money as affiliate, than business owner. Isn't it better to start your own online business, is it? Of cause you must invest some money. But anyway you invest it buying a product as affiliate.

sandra.IMqueen

As with all sales " buyer beware" It's up to us to do our research.

Great info from a lot of different perspectives, in the end each of us has to make up our own mind and go with what we believe is right for us.

Keep sharing your experiences and wisdom.

veotis

You are being negative, you don't need to be ill, you definitely don't know anything about the product and yes, you are wrong. What nobodyspecial failed to mention was that along with his login details there were instructions or assignments on what to do this first week. I like the week to week set up they have. I mean, it's only 6 weeks. I'm already doing some of the stuff they're showing. But to have software that will do this for me, absolutely priceless. And, what's wrong with learning "market research"? Do you just go out blindly throwing up offers without a clue? I do pretty good with running CPA offers, and I'm a fond believer in doing market research.

nobodyspecial

Review update ...

Here is the email I received for week one (covert recon):

I went through the video (it was pretty clear at full screen) and the basics of market research were covered (quantcast, google keyword tool, alexa, etc.). Nothing really new for anybody who has done PPC before.

A & J did show the manual way to do it, not using MB. This was to show what was being done, then how MB speeds this up (their words) dramatically.

Again, they covered the basics (fairly quickly) and was more of a review than baseline training.

Awaiting more.

SimonHarrison

As I understand it that's correct Jeremy yes, the application itself and all your data is stored on Amish's servers, it was my primary concern when I considered buying it.

John Reese wanged out an email or two about it and he's not one typically to risk his rep on crap so I gave it the time of day, the hosted application put me off.

Shah's a bright cookie, had a friend go to a big seminar of his last year , he's experienced and he came back saying Shah knew his stuff and even gave away some solid information so I buy into him being viable and quite probably accurate with his earnings.

Just can't say I'm struck on all my data being on somebody elses server, aside from anything else what the heck happens if Amish goes awol, packs it all in and decides to reside in Cloud Kuckoo land with a big bag of money, where does that leave you?

I'm not 100% on this , somebody may know better but as far as I know, you don't get access to the entirity of the software either, it's being opened up in piece meal format.

I was pretty tempted by this, I'm big on software that makes life easy and $3k didn't seem to bad, even if I did see some holes in the promo videos, but all in all, it looked tempting until I realised he retains control of everything on his own server, just put me off a bit.

That said, it may well be excellent software, so I'm interested to see the reviews from people when it's been unlocked enough to test it's potential, something tells me the "max 500 people limit" will, as usual, turn into "we had a crazy idea and are going to open it up to another 500 lucky people" fairly soon.

jjjt

I signed up for the Magic Bullet product a couple of days ago, but as yet have not received ANY emails from them (no user name/password, in fact not even a receipt).

I created a support ticket 14 hours ago, and have yet to receive a response.

Is anybody getting a similar lack of response??

claytons

@jjjt I can't tell you how frustrating we find relying on email delivery with autoresponders for product registration and ongoing communication. It's hit and miss at best and annoying to all.

One thing you can certainly count on is that Frank isn't running some shady operation...you'll get an answer soon.

jjjt

@claytons - I'm sorry but I cannot believe that an autoresponder takes more than 2 days (and counting) to deliver an email...!

And in any case, it doesn't explain the lack of response to the support ticket.

wh0kn0ws

if i paid 3 dimes for that and did not get a reply i would not be to happy.. i sell my own stuff where people loose there minds for 39.99 imagine 3,000$ u would think they would have a proper support staff in place.

claytons

@jjjt - yeah, it's not that it takes 2 days...they just never show...happens with aweber, getresponse...seriously...it happens...too often

As for the ticket response...can't say...I know we strive for 1 business day...but do it a LOT quicker...BUT... 1 business day is our critical metric

jjjt

@claytons - well, to add to my ever-increasing frustration, I have probably already lost out on a 1st-come-1st-served bonus that Gauher Chaudhry was offering, simply because I haven't yet received a receipt to be able to forward to him.

Grrrrrrrrrr....

claytons

@jjjt Sorry, Mate!

hang in there...maybe you'll make a ton of cash with Frank's thing here and you'll be laughing that you were ever upset!! :-)

CPA's not my thing, in general ...but people do make a nice buck from it for sure

ProsperousMan

How long is the guarantee period? This doesn't seem to be stated anywhere.

Thanks.

SimonHarrison

Gauher's a good guy, explain the situation and I'm sure he will understand. Point him to this thread if need be.

jjjt

STILL no emails with user name/password/receipt.
STILL no response to Support Ticket (follow-up message sent)

AND

"Office" telephone number goes straight through to voicemail.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......... .........

TelegramSam

The lack of good support in these kinds of launches doesn't surprise me anymore. Sadly...

PeteNY

At risk of stating the obvious (the obvious is often overlooked), did you check your spam folder?

My username/password were in my spam folder in my Yahoo mail account.

Hope you find it there too!

Pete

jjjt

@PeteNY - Yes, thanks Pete! It was the first place I checked! (and keep checking, btw!)


Maybe I'm just getting old, but I am getting SO SO WEARY of disappointing/non-existent Customer Support with these big IM products...

Handing over $3000 of my hard-earned, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for LOGIN DETAILS!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

rhj12345

Here is there support desk link.

The Magic Bullet System - Kayako SupportSuite Help Desk Software

Hope this helps

Rob

tpsolutions1

Beantown are you in MA? Also did you get the Bullet System? I did and live in MA too. The Bullet System should produce results over the next 3 weeks so until then there is not going to be a lot to report. However I must say I watched a video from Amish today as a part of the system and it was absolutely jammed packed with information. I am no newbie and I am going to have to listen to that video at least another 2 times to get every bit of info out of that video. Great stuff.