Bobru

Just wondering if anyone has seen Keith Wellman's Automated Sales Formula yet...

dseisner

Good call, I'm also looking for some reviews. Seems interesting but also a bit expensive and does not have a sales letter (though he claims this converts even better).

Gary_The_Ace

Hey all,

Full Disclosure: I've known Keith since before he had his first successful product online, and have worked closely with him for well over 4 years at this point ... in short, I'm not exactly un-biased.

All that said, when Keith told me what he was up to about 3 months ago, I honestly didn't know if he'd be able to pull everything off ... not because he's not capable, but because I didn't know if he had the team in place to get things done.

I've had a look at a few of the pre-release skeleton versions, and the final versions of the Automated Sales Formula, including a couple of the testing accounts he used to determine if they'd actually be profitable for clients, and based on everything I've seen ... he has a winner here.

Now, all that said ...

The automated part will only work for the selected niches up until a point because eventually we'll reach a point of saturation ... but, for those willing to do even the most basic of keyword type research, and do a little testing and tracking ... I think they'll continue to see a good return for quite a while.

Like most things IM related ... the people who make the dough will be the people who put in the work, and Keith's product is no different. Keith includes one traffic method, which is profitable based on his tests, but anyone using only a single method of traffic for the business is sort of a dummy ...

Basically, he gives you everything you need to get up and rolling, and to get into profit based on the numbers I've seen ... what you do with it after that is of course, up to you.

Gary Ambrose

julie004

Hello,

I saw the sales video and sounds to good to be true. I wanted to buy but it would
be to big a risk for me without money back guarantee. I would have to make the
purchase price back in a month.

Good point about the 15 getting saturated. I would think that most people would put
this into action immediately.

I'll probably drop back in on this thread for a few days to see if there are more comments.

silverbax

I can't see anything new being offered here. From the sales page, it looks like stuff I'm already doing, and I certainly wouldn't pay as much as the video claims to set this up.

mentorondemand

Personally I just really like his video sale
page. Outside of IM this form of sales
letter really goes over amazing.

jimfurr

If you have all the tools and know-how, I guess you don't need this package.

However, I feel that $30 each for 15 websites, with squeeze pages, with
videos, with traffic methods - is a good deal even if they are sort of
PLR website content. But, as said in the video, you can take this
model and develop more websites of your own

miami

Well... IMHO it sounds like the same story. I am sure Keith is a great guy and really wants to make everybody millionaires but...

It is absolutely dead easy automated software blah blah blah

It is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars but for you... only in the next ten minutes.

Plus you get all the old videos, recordings, products etc....

For only....

How much more time does anyone have to watch all this?

You can get the same systems, with the squeeze pages (that you can edit) plus the sales pages (with video that you can edit) plus the autoresponders for a hell of a lot less.

Check my resource links.

FastCash4You

I got an email for this earlier today and I watched the sales video. I didn't buy it. The price seemed high!

Woody C

In my opinion, Gary and Keith are the best at video sales pages. If you really want to learn how to do them, just watch how they do it.

seriousmny

I was looking at this myself and wondering what the average cost of something like this is. I must admit I procrastinate when it comes to technical things a lot and just the sheer fact that someone else has it already done would help me out a lot.

Speaking honestly, I don't think I would ever finish all the fine details needed to set something like this up, due to daily time constraints, so I was willing to eat the cost just to get started and have a finished product. I see someone mentioned there are cheaper systems out here that do the same thing. Would you mind PMing me to tell me what they are by name so I can do some due diligence? I would greatly appreciate it.

terryd

The video was certainly a big talk up with the thousands of dollars worth of products being thrown in.

Although I am tempted I really don't want to part with that much money but if there was a monthly payment option then I really might have taken the bait!

CraigX

I bought the Automated Sales Formula this morning around 10:30 AM and as of right now I still haven't got to see a site yet and its 11:26 PM. One thing that got me concerned is in the sales video he states that if you purchase in the next 10 minutes you get the software but after buying I found out you have to buy the hosting for $29 month to have access to the software which in the sales video which I went back and watched again clearly states if you act within the next 10 minutes you get the software. Right now I'm having serious buyers remorse but hope that it turns out to be as good as it sounded in the sales video.

terryd

As long as you put it on the plastic you should be ok!

mike5941

Didn't the video also clearly state...You don't need to buy anything else?

bminor

I watched the video, too.

What I would be most interested in, is, whether this is really a fully automated method.

Per what I understood the only work you have to do is the 3 hrs setup of the system for each individual site/niche/product.
And from then on it's really automated with this "Twitter syphoon" and this other automated software he mentions? No regular blog posting, article writing, blog commenting etc. required to get constant traffic to the video page?

Does anybody have experience with that?

I rather would ask Keith himself or one of his team but I couldn't find any contact link or support email on his pages.

Nicholas William

I just signed up for Keith's Automated Sales Formula but haven't managed to get instant access as yet. Personally, I think the offer sounds great and I'm really looking forward to learning what he includes on the topic of video marketing.

Will keep you posted

ps. isn't it great that alot of people in the community are in the spirit of giving back and helping this year? From Mike and Franks giveaways to everything else going on, it really is a great time to be in learning mode.

mpx305

Agreed, I think I'll do the same.

DavidParton

I have a hard time parting with $500 without a little more information. I,too, will wait for some sincere testimonials from Warriors that have put this system to the test.
I also would have grabbed it if a payment plan was in place.

After watching the video I googled "automated sales formula" and found this thread.

I also found this article from a whiney and disgruntled failed IM-er.

"I am Sick of Internet Marketers" by Kenny

I am Sick of Internet Marketers: GoArticles.com

He says he has been Internet Marketing for 2 years and hasn't made a cent. Which isn't surprising.

Without even trying he got the #10 spot on Google in 24 hours. he mentions "Automated Sales Formula" only once and "Keith Wellman" twice - that is the extent of his optimisation.

Experienced Article marketers know that GoArticles ranks well with Google and you can add a lot of links. They also know that when you trash one product you should also recommend something you think it is better and put in the links.

Kenny has no hyperlinks, not even in his bio box. He has a url to his blog at the end but it is not hyperlinked.

He doesn't even use the product name in the title, and it obviously was blurted out in a moment of passion.

So, it appears our friend Kenny still has a way to go in his IM education!

As this product gains momentum and builds up more buzz, more people will be searching for it and there will be Kenny's article...getting more views and not making him a penny.

Anyway, this is an opportunity for any seo savvy article marketer to land on that page, too as it obviously doesn't take much to rank right now.

I look forward to reading more about this product

David

pixiedust

Hi Craig: I was wondering if you have an update about the Automated Sales Formula. I just saw the video sales page and I was considering buying it. I easily get caught up in the hype of things and often regret some of my purchases. So any feedback you can give me would be greatly appreciated. :-)

B3n

The Warrior Forum isn't Keith's favorite place as he has now been banned from this forum THREE times over the last couple of years.

As for Keith's latest product, it sounds remarkably like a couple of his other products. It sounds especially like his "Auto Pilot" product which caused a huge storm in 2008 due his extremely poor customer service.

Easy Sales Video Course? What do you think?

Keith's company is notoriously difficult to contact - especially, it seems, if you want to cancel a forced continuity membership!

Need a bit of help please.

Anybody Know How to Contact Keith Wellman?

Gateway Seminar did anyone attend? I NEED HELP

For the best reviews of Keith Wellman products, go to RipOffReport.com and search for his name.

I realise that many people on here think that RipOffReport is a load of tosh but I think you have to admit that a marketer with dozens of complaints, as Keith has, is obviously doing something very, very wrong.

Bobru

The Oh yeah, by the way $29/mo thing raises red flags to me. I also heard him say the price included the software, and that you didn't need to buy anything else. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out...

bhackett

Thanks for the information about Keith's latest offering. I almost put down the $500 and am glad I didn't at least for now.

CraigX

I will keep everyone posted on how this works out.

Steve Iser

Yeah apparantly there's some moderator dude who likes to ban Keith for no apparant reason.

Apparantly that's how the story goes.

On a side note, the offer is good. Keith's a genuine person.

Take that to note.

Steve

Steve Iser

Isn't there a support center? help@automatedsalesformula.com

EverydayWealth

Hey guys Keith Wellman here. Thought I'd chime in... hopefully the moderator that kept banning me is no longer here :-)

help AT automatedsalesformula DOT com is the support for getting the website stuff up and running if you're having issues.

CraigX and Nicholas if you could email me personally at easysalesformula AT gmail DOT com I'd like to find out what problems you ran into so that we can make sure there's no issues for others.

I saw a couple things that I should respond to as well...

The $29/month option is for us to put it on a hosting account and buy the domain for you. It's optional and can be done without that with a free site which we also show people how to do but it's way more technical and honestly, using our option IS the fastest and quickest way.

Also, our support site is always accesable through justaskkeith.com or replying to my broadcast emails or for Warriors - my personal email address which is easysalesformula AT gmail DOT com :-)

Don't hesitate to ask me questions on the product, using sales videos, whatever, I like to help so even if you can't afford the product, I'm more than happy to help do what I can. Just keep in mind I'm a bit busy during this product release helping customers.

Obviously this isn't the place for me to sell my own product so all I can say is that I put a lot into this. A lot. A lot of time and a lot of money. I have a very big goal to help 1,000 people go full time online this year and it's going to take a lot of work and REALLY good products. This product should get me to my goal and if you're wondering, it's worth every penny but I'm biased :-)

If there's any questions on video marketing, the product, or what ever, feel free to ask me if you want me to chime in... assuming I don't get banned :-)

Keith Wellman

chayil

I was actually very very tempted to whip out my cc to buy the very next minute. But i just had to google it to find more info.

There's no mention of any money back guarantee. But the order page does have a 100% satisfaction, no risk kind of stuff. I'm protected by his 100% money back guarantee. but it doesn't say how many days.

Another thing that makes me think more is.....are the niches going to be the same for all customers?? Is the content going to be unique? If his goal is to make 1000 millionaires...hopefully thru this program, then is he making sure that the niches are unique to every customer?

In my opinion, i think only a certain number of niches can be similar for customers. If all niches are similar for all customers, then the customers are competing each other with the same techniques that Keith suppose to teach. If there are several niches enough to be given 15 each for the 1000 customers at least, then competition will be at a healthy level with other affiliates. So at least there should be a 100 different niches to be spread out among all customers. Maybe i'm wrong here, but if i see all customers having the same 15 niches, I'm seeing very little value here.

Even so...i'm quite tickled by the twitter software. hmmm.

chayil

Hi David

Yes...when i googled automated sales formula, warrior forum was in number 2 spot. And Kenny's article was in no. 3 or 4. That was before you posted on WF.

7-8 hours later after my sleep...came back and check...many more results. But kenny's article was no longer in google top 10.

i also wondered how his article got 1st page ranking.

Pauli7143

I was wondering about the lenght of the guantee myself, I'll be waiting here to see if Kieth will come back and answer.

And I was wondering about the niches and 1000 people also, maybe we'll get an answer

elishahong

I am an active user of Keith Wellman's Easy Sales Formula, I've created and profited from many of the sales videos with his video skinning method and by the time you're done reading this, I hope it'll help you. I've made quite a number of videos ever since and have become better at it.

It was June 29th, 2009.. I've already received numerous emails about the Easy Sales Formula and there was a call in the morning. I quickly signed up for it and listened to the call. I knew about this sales formula way before it was launched to the public in May when there was a paid workshop.

Watching Keith present his presentation with a small group of about 20 people, I was amazed at the way the system was structured and it was something that I have been looking for, a structured way to sell using videos. But it wasn't the full thing but I was excited.

At launch day June 30th, I bought the program and within a day after I purchased it, I took action (I listened to the first two or three modules and immediately took some notes.) Technically, I used about 30% of his videos. More information and proof below.

The formula was easy to understand, structured and straight forward, it includes one of the strategies that most internet marketing "consumers" would generally be complaining about - the "Price Drop" formula. (The It's Not Going To Be $10k,$5k, etc) This single module plays an important role in selling, it builds anticipation and excitement, that's the psychology behind it. Does it work? You bet it does! This is just one of the modules within the sold-out Easy Sales Formula.

I tested two of my sales videos. One with the price drop and another without and the one with it converted better than the one without. Just not implementing a single module made a huge difference!

So, did I make money with this Video Skinning formula? YES. How much? Over the past year after the ESF launch, at least $9000 in sales for various niches and services that I launched. Surely everyone by now wants to see some proof. There's no way I could put together all the checks, screenshots and websites and reveal everything (look at sig)..that's not the point. The point is that the Easy Sales Formula video skinning method is a "Formula" , a "Structured System" put together for maximum conversions to close sales either as an affiliate or product vendor.

If you were ever in sales, you were trained how to build rapport, emphasize benefits, ask for the sale and get the prospect to become a paying customer. It's not that simple but that's really it, getting a person to buy. I am not from a sales background but for self improvement I read Brian Tracy's The Psychology of Selling and other books that mentioned steps to sell. Those old books out there teach the fundamentals of selling that is now adapted for online usage. Keith was the one who was able to put that information together and make it easy for people to learn.

What did I do? How did I do it? Believe me..it had nothing to do with PPC, not even a list. Read on.

Here's the shocking truth, when I had the opportunity to attend the Easy Sales Formula Live event, I did a quick survey personally on top of the question that Keith asked, "How Many People Used The Easy Sales Formula?" There were quite a few hands that went up but there were some who didn't as well. So I asked a member and asked how he did with the program and he told me that he did nothing with it.

That's why I think the ready made videos the "Automated Sales Formula" is a huge improvement and advantage because there are truly no excuses not to make money with this system now.

And now, some complimentary content for those who are still at the edge of deciding whether this program is right for you.

I'll walk through some of the steps to create the videos and with the time that I spent on creating one. I'm a tech person so I do have a slight advantage over but it doesn't mean anything since the Easy Sales Formula came with the software to create videos as well.

Feel free to use this information for your own profits, I'm doing this just to tell you how much the ESF has helped me and I know that the Automated Sales Formula will do the same. The strategies that I share below reflects on the strategies that I have learned from Keith and from personal experience.

By the way, I've given away this exact formula to people and strangely most people don't take action on it although it's a gold mine..maybe since it's free the value drops? I don't know but for real..how many really take action on this?

Step 1: Choose A Product To Promote When A Guru Emails (10-20 Minutes)

You get emails everyday..I'm sure you'll be able to find one.

Identifying a product is simple. In fact here's the ONE tactic that I use all the time here when I want make some quick cash. "Guru Emails". Most people on a guru's list are pre-sold if the gurus did a good job with it. You can tell when you read their emails.

This strategy for most people is known as the guru launch formula, affiliate launch formula, whatever you name it etc.

It is most likely that the gurus have a list of over a thousand people and a percentage of those will look for product reviews, bonuses, scams etc.. or land here at the Warrior Forum.

Next, I suggest that you purchase the product for BEST and maximum effect, if not get a quick review copy. It's easy to get a review copy, just ASK for it. I've done it myself and it's usually an email away. Worse come to worse, you'll get a no for an answer. But for the most part vendors will give away their product.

Step 2: Create Your Video (Strictly Using The ESF Method) This is the "Lite" version (45 Minutes - 2 Hours)

What you'll need?

Keynote, Powerpoint, Open Source Powerpoint Software, A 30 Day Camtasia Trial, Camstudio Pro, HyperCam, any screen capture software that you know of.

The presentation can be in complete text form or with some screen shots of the product. Make sure you get permission. Plain Blue and Black backgrounds are best in my experience. Don't make the presentation fancy. Keep it clean.

Plan Your Slides With A Beginning, Middle and End

Beginning: Establish Credibility - Your Name(Add Real Photo If Possible), Why You're Doing This(Reason), Website(Location), Include An Attention Grabbing Statement,How You Intend To Solve This Problem or How Does The Product Solve The Problem, Why They Need It.

Middle: Establish Benefits - Product Benefits, How It Will Directly Help The Person, How You've Used It Personally, Show Some Proof, Agitate The Problem Slightly, Offer The Complete Solution Through The Product, Offer A Hard To Get Bonus, Irresistible Offer

End: Establish Price, Call To Action, Agitate Loss If They Don't Get It, Timed Deadline, Price Drop, Offer Help & Support, Buyer Satisfaction, Guarantee - These are psychological triggers that you can implement to get a person to take action. You choose which you are most comfortable with. Be sure that you tell them where to go, mention your affiliate link. The famous /go method after your domain name is suggested. A simple redirect method. If this is too complicated, send me a PM.

Now, the main meat of the video is done, you have to "render","produce" the video, rendering on Camtasia takes about 8-20 minutes depending on the speed of your computer and the length of your video. My experience with 12 minute videos are that it takes about 15 minutes to render on a 3GB laptop. Grab a cup of coffee, watch TV while waiting.

Setting all this up takes quick thinking and can take a person hours to do if they are just starting. I've been able to do things more quickly ever since I had more practice.

Finally, uploading it via FTP, takes about another 10-20 minutes depending on the speed of your internet connection. Connecting it with a domain name, hosting etc is another matter altogether.

Total time needed to complete one Easy Sales Formula video, from 2-3 hours if everything goes smoothly. At the most 4 hours unless you keep perfecting the video. I have a video with a ton of errors on it and it still converts today. Too afraid to make any changes since it's making me money.

Step 3: Getting Traffic (People Who Are Pre-Sold or Other Prospects)

The popular methods that are used nowadays for MAXIMUM rankings are:

Social Bookmarking sites:

Two of which I know ranks pretty quickly and also easily outranked by competitors - namely:

1. Mixx
2. Digg

Keyword Rich Domain Names (Super Targeted Keywords That Contains The Product Name)
productnamereview + bonus + other letter variations + s,ed,x,

Domain name extensions that rank highly on Google, marketers will love this when implemented (In Sequence after the .com name becomes less effective

1. .org
2. .net
3. .us
4. .com

For Yahoo, a .info domain name ranks highly easily as well. Not so much for Google unless the search volume is under 200k searches or have a ton of backlinks pointing towards the domain name.

Depending on the volume of sites out there, usually the domain .com will become less effective after all the affiliates buy variations of the .com domains for the product names. There are a few marketers who are now resorting to this quick domain extension "fix".

Article Sites That Rank Quickly and Outranks Quickly Because Many Affiliate Marketers Use These Strategies, More Competitive Nowadays: (Remember to use ProductNameReview Keywords For ALL)

GoArticles,Squidoo,Hubpages,Press Release Sites PRLog

-If you know Howie Schwartz, he's a real pro at locating Web 2.0 Properties, high ranking sites that gets you free organic traffic. You can get some ideas if you follow him.

Video Sites That Rank Quickly and Outranks Quickly:

YouTube,Viddler, Use TubeMogul whenever possible.

Finally "Pinging" - Do You Ping?
Pingomatic
Pingoat

Yes, you must Ping your site,articles so that the search engines know that your content is up to date!

And of course, remember the Warrior Forum and other forums - Inserting your signature.

Total time to submit and post to all sites, easily an hour to two hours after creating new accounts and doing things the manual way. There are ways to automated this process and even if the tools exist, the methods I have revealed here are sufficient for you to get some basic traffic.

Step 5: Finally, Self-Analysis , Testing etc.

Be sure to install Analytics and any other tracking devices.

If your offer, bonus and product is interesting(solves the problem,strikes a chord with the person), people will buy from you, even if they don't really know you personally. Otherwise, you can expect that the sales formula to not convert. When the video doesn't convert, ask questions, study what went wrong and test test test. Keep making videos and improve on it till it converts. I have had videos that totally flunk on me and videos that just converts.

Wow..now that's a lot of work indeed. That's taking action, the small steps that lead to the completion of a sales message that is distributed online for people to read,watch,listen and finally decide to buy if it is for them.

So once again, that's why I think the Automated Sales Formula can save people so much more time and the hours of creating those videos and worrying if it's perfect or not.

I hope you have found this post useful. It's a culmination of my best kept strategies that I use on a regular basis that makes me money. Feel free to doubt my methods but it's your call..and it is all thanks to Keith for sharing many of the tips that helped me. What I share may not be new but if you haven't tried any of the methods I stated or did but didn't do enough repetitions or iterations of it, then try it. As Tony Robbins say - Repetition is the mother of skill. Repetition of a proven system that is..

Finally, consider this, take action on money making activities. Debating on the forum is not going to bring you anywhere because the forum will "pre-occupy" your thoughts. Especially when you are posting on a forum that receives plenty of feedback, your mind will always want to fall back to that post and you'll end up writing 10 different posts on the thread which can easily accumulate into hours of unproductive time. Mike Filsaime said it once, avoid the "herd" mentality. Think for yourself and what is best for you. It's easier to find an excuse to not take action than to sweat it out.

Be a leader, grow your business and help more other people achieve their goals in life. Take control of the steering wheel. Read a book called "Think Big" by Ben Carson and Good To Great.

Good luck!

Dan Liptak

I'll vouch for Elisha. He is the real deal and wouldn't mislead anyone. I had the pleasure of meeting him at a few live events and was very impressed with his willingness to take action!

Later,
Dan

Teriss

Why do are all internet marketing guru's copying each other, it makes for boring redundancy and no one likes boring. Nothing here I haven't heard before in exactly the same way, with not one shred of proof =no guarantees and no sales. Sure well have a couple of hundred people running around with "cookie cutter" websites that are all identical and useless.

Gary_The_Ace

So a couple hundred people have similar websites ... and that makes the sites useless? Hmmmm...

That's really bad news for affiliate marketing then, because as far as I know, thousands of people are promoting the exact same website ( the affiliate site ), and apparently, that's a totally useless plan ...

When you get your ClickBank hoplink, the fact that all those links point to the same website apparently makes all of those links totally useless, and oh good god, you're not guaranteed to sell anything either!

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!! AFFILIATE MARKETING IS DOOMED!!!!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!

I mean, there's no way possible for a few hundred people to make sales on the same product ... right? That's impossible. I've never heard of anything like that happening before.

More than one person using the same website to sell something ... you're right, it's probably useless.

- Gary

/obvious sarcasm tag

... just in case anyone was dumb enough to take this post seriously.

A Bary

People will never learn??

Every now and then, Wellman come out with the same crap, and got people on the forum talking about how great he is (most probably this is Keith himself as he is permanently banned from the forum)

People, for GOD SAKE, THIS GUY IS PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THE WARRIOR FORUM AFTER HIS VERY FIRST CRAPPY SCAM 3 YEARS AGO..

I think no other marketer has been discussed as him, search the forum and you will find what I am talking about

TelegramSam

If you want to know how to make loads of money online listen very closely...

I have created a product that costs just $500.

I will give you a load of stuff for this and throw in a few exclusive bonuses worth over $20,000

Just click on the big old "I want to help 1000 get rich" button and then enter your payment details and then click on the "It is my life passion to help you" button.

Then I'll take the $500 and a little bitty payment each month and you will at least have something to look at on the internet. Keep on looking because I want to build a $30 a month relationship with you long term.

I may have been banned before, a few times, but that was just some click-happy nasty person.

You can trust me even though there is no mention of a guarantee. Why let that spoil our ongoing monthly relationship?

Nicholas William

*ticket responded and solved*

maverick4u

Elishahong said: "Finally, uploading it via FTP, takes about another 10-20 minutes depending on the speed of your internet connection. Connecting it with a domain name, hosting etc is another matter altogether."

So you have to self host these sales videos? Wouldn't that blow the bandwidth away on my puny shared hosting account? Especially if you have 10-12 of them. Is that because of the cookie dropping?

l23bc

No rant intended but i just watched the video 25 mins ago, and to be all honest the only reason i got involved in internet marketing and other businesses online was to aviod these people who said they do this or do that...with a hefty price tag

After watching the video i concluded the fact that if it is true good to be true then pehaps it is so the only thing on that conclusion i lost was my constrained time from watching the video. Plus it seemed like a product he did a while ago, i cannot remember what was that called.But i do rememenber alot of people on ripoffreport complaining about the support or some faults.

anyway, if anyone knows how to unsubcribe from his emails after unsubcription tries 5 times please let me know,

andy



if your looking to learn, then learn for free, use ed dales 30 day challenge or the war room here, there is always someone in here whos willing to learn and saving you 500 dollars and 30 dollars a month,

B3n

No, Gary, that's not what is being offered here. What Keith is doing is giving a couple of hundred people (assuming he sells that many which I doubt) the EXACT SAME set of 15 videos to go out and promote certain products via an affiliate link.

Would you use the exact same video as countless others to try and promote a product? Of course you wouldn't, there's zero chance you would use the same video as somebody else, it's not a good idea.

If Keith manages to sell a lot of these then the videos will quickly become useless as they are uploaded to hundreds of site and pushed via Twitter etc.

Feel free to call someone else 'dumb' but, sarcasm aside, you completely misunderstood the point being made here.

Plus, you're Keith's best buddy so you aren't likely to be independent.

Leaving aside Keith's very dodgy past, there's no guarantee attached to this so-called product so I would never, ever recommend anyone buys it.

A Bary

There's a membership site called "pre sales video", that offers a collection of affiliate products videos for a dirt cheap subscription...

is there a chance that these collection of videos keith sells, are part of these videos???

chayil

Well said...B3n. That was exactly my concern. The same niches with the same content. I think same niches can still be acceptable. But the content must be different for all customers. Better still different niches for several customers...but with some overlapping niches is still fine as long as content he delivers is different.

If Keith has to give different content...it's a lot of work. For that price it's still reasonable. But if the content is the same, then it's questionable.

It makes me wonder if what he claims in his video is all true...that he used to be down and out with his lousy job and soo on.....bla bla bla.

In my opinion...if someone really is in that situation, got out of it and really want to help others get out of it...then he/she must be sincere in doing so...with a more reasonable price tag...and some credibility. If Keith is really sincere in helping others, he wouldn't have chalked up so much -ve ratings about him. Perhaps he got out of his nasty situation by earning this type of money from others.

chayil

Hi Nicholas

I saw the money back logo on the order form...but it's not stated how many days. I also printed a screenshot of the order form with the money back gaurantee in pdf. You can try to access the order page again to see the gaurantee.

B3n

Well spotted chayil, you're absolutely right - there is some kind of guarantee on the order form:

http://www.warriorforum.com/attachme...1&d=1262706844

So what's the deal Keith? Is there a money back guarantee or not?

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MCDavies

I was kind of surprised that this doesn't come with any kind of money back guarantee.

It seems like this type of product is targeted to the new people that aren't willing to put any amount of effort in building a real online business.

I hope those that paid for this will get their return on investment. At least use this as an important lesson.

EverydayWealth

In the video I didn't mention a guarantee because I want people who are serious and not just going to purchase and refund. You'll see on the order form there are terms of service at the bottom which state that the guarantee is 72 hours.

The reason for this is so that anyone can get in, see what's in there, even setup their system and they can get a refund right away if they either don't like what they see or if they purchased in haste. A 30 day guarantee has become the "norm" in IM but certainly devalues products and people take advantage of them.

What I have is amazing. I don't want anyone taking advantage of it. Also, on everyone getting the same 15 sites...

Yes, and I made that clear however just as Gary said, that's very little competition. First, not everyone will promote their site (maybe 800 or so), then of that 800 only a small percentage will promote the same product of the 15 at any given time (maybe 200). Secondly, I offer a monthly product giving members 3 sites every month. This is to help change up the offers and give people different products to promote on a regular basis. Some affiliate programs have literally hundreds of thousands of affiliates ALL promoting the same page. I like to keep mine down to a few hundred for maximum effectiveness :-)

Nicholas, I sent you a personal email this morning and support stayed late in the office (until like 8pm) working overtime to help every customer. Usually we try to keep support answers under 24 hours but it may be up to 42 hrs for a few days.

Anyways... Elisha good on you for making good money with this system! Sounds like you're the only one here that posted an opinion after USING the system :-)

EverydayWealth

Yes. 72 hours as per the terms. Long enough for anyone to go in, setup the system, and see traffic coming to their sites (all of which takes only hours). I'm sure you'll disagree and tell me all about how I should have at least 30 days but it's what I feel comfortable with knowing what this system is valued at :-)

Keith Wellman

EverydayWealth

No not at all. Everything in this was created from scratch by us (with the exception of the actual affiliate products of course :-)

A Bary

Keith Man...

I have just one question for you...

What nerve you have to show up again in this forum??

I am really amazed with your ability to show up in a community you know well has hundreds of people you simply scammed?

And I hope you're grown enough not to just push your usual defends, you know well what I am talking about, or you need someone to remind you about your previous disasters?

What is ironic is that you're wondering why you get banned all the time from the forum..

Really, one life is not enough to see every thing

pearsonbrown

I think you'll find that Keith has had his just reward.

Pearson